FBI wants Apple to build a backdoor program to hack the Iphone

Do you think the gov't should ever have the right to force a company to do something that may jeopardize not only their security measures but also their public image as well?

Is this no different than a company inventing a cure but also making the disease as well?

No different than making a anti-viral program after making and unleashing a virus first

Do you really think they don't routinely do this anyway?  I would suspect that this is a little misdirection.

Tax breaks, a government contract for employees to use iPhones, run Macbooks.  I would imagine that's all happening behind the scenes, but since it's Apple, and people like to pretend that they actually care about their customers, it's a great PR story for the company. If there was a financial interest to make them change their mind, it would happen and we'd never hear about it.

I think something odd is going on if Apple has to pretend to be the big man in this case. Are you telling me in the 7+ decades of FBI work since J. Edgar Hoover that the best cops in the land can't crack these shooters? Surely they know what's going on, especially with all of the Muslim snitches they have. This is just an excuse for something a bit more troublesome. The NSA doesn't just suddenly give up its data hoarding program just like that.

I'm looking at a twitter search, and the Wall Street Journal has a video up about how the former director Michael "not knowingly" Hayden says the FBI's gotta stop this "backdoor" bs.

Don't worry, guys - you can fully trust the government. I really don't see why anyone would object to this?

The government wants a backdoor entrance on the people? Sounds like the norm.

You know, there's almost no point in having this in the VS forum because as much as I try not to "both parties do it" this is the one rare instance where they actually are both trying to us over. Presidential candidates on both sides have come out in opposition to encryption.

I think detectiveconan is on to something here though. I'm not entirely sure the governments motivations in pursuing this is because they want access to the phone. Rather, I think this was a convenient coincidence for them to be able to go after encryption through the courts because hey, who doesn't hate themselves some terrorists.

RedvsBlue said:

You know, there's almost no point in having this in the VS forum because as much as I try not to "both parties do it" this is the one rare instance where they actually are both trying to us over. Presidential candidates on both sides have come out in opposition to encryption.

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What's funny is Clinton wanting all the tech giants to come together and create a backdoor for the government so that the government(and, who knows who else) can access our data whenever/whereever.

You know, the same one that set up a private email server in order to work around her government-provided email for government business. The same one who "forgot" 7,000 emails when she was ordered to release them. The same one who fought tooth and nail against releasing those 7,000 "forgotten" emails before Super Tuesday.

#Sanders2016

But hey Republicans aren't screaming Nationalized Corporations just for this one time

Also I guess Republicans are for socialism too just this one time,  apparently the court order forgot to mention if they were to FORCE a corporation to do something that just compensation would also be provided.... OOOPSS!!!

Just so you know the whole reason they are going for a court order is cause the FBI really do not want to use this JUST ONE time, with the court order and chains of command in forensics, it would require the FBI to have a full working copy of the software build and that is exactly what they want.  They are after a copy of this software.

They cannot just let Apple do it because by injecting software into a system, you can also inject say other information into the system thus compromising the integrity of the data.  It as finding a blood stain and spilling your own blood into it. 

So in order for them to have a working program they will need a court order to get a fully functional program they they can take apart, so that when they use it again in the future, defendants can't argue about mishandled evidence forensically since it would need to be explained in court. 

Case reference from Silk Road verdict

If the gov't want to stop terrorism, well its simple change their politics.  Which we know they won't its easier to continuing fighting than to stop

UncleBob said:

What's funny is Clinton wanting all the tech giants to come together and create a backdoor for the government so that the government(and, who knows who else) can access our data whenever/whereever.

You know, the same one that set up a private email server in order to work around her government-provided email for government business. The same one who "forgot" 7,000 emails when she was ordered to release them. The same one who fought tooth and nail against releasing those 7,000 "forgotten" emails before Super Tuesday.

#Sanders2016

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You mean the one who getting beat by BERNIE SANDERS? So no, people aren't for Clinton as much as you think

Anyways there is already a corporation that has a backdoor and a hole in everything, its called MICROSOFT who OS is runned one way or another on almost 90% of the world's computers.

And that Kinect, yep its MS spying at you