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There is no politicians that remind me more of the Underwoods than the Clintons. Hillary always seems like she is sweeping something she doesn't want the public to see under the rug. From her expensive speeches she won't reveal to her deleted emails, she always has something to hide. When she gives public speeches I always feel like she is whispering about how dumb we are as the public because we will elect her.

I know Trump won't reveal his taxes but I get the feeling it's just because he hasn't paid any taxes in a long time. He is no saint but I feel like he has less to hide.

Austin Petersen on the other hand, now that would be a good president.
 
They know the location of a fabulous blackberry patch but won't divulge it and risk us coming and eating all the blackberries.

Clinton's speeches are guaranteed boring.  They're speeches to financial groups, what do you think they say?  There's some attaboys and "You guys are important to the nation" and other fluffing crap to make them feel like they got their $200k worth which, out of context, will be "OMG Clinton really loves giant banks and is in an Illuminati-Trilateral Group alliance!"  But it's not as though she was discussing top secret government fiscal policy via paid speeches to a bunch of Goldman Sachs junior execs.

 
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RedvsBlue said:
Those speeches are nothing more than a thinly veiled bribe.
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Exactly. It will only hurt her...which is why I'd love to see them revealed. Either it will be her praising them and their contributions to society, which her detractors would jump all over, or her saying absolutely nothing of substance, then her detractors rolling their eyes saying "Ahh, that sure sounds like $200k worth of speaking fees. I wonder what other strings were attached."

For now, her supporters can argue that it's no big deal, it's just a speech, and her detractors can speculate either of the options above. It's literally a no-win situation, with only one choice being slightly less damaging. Come to think of it...that's a lot like this Presidential race.

 
If the speech was btw private parties, she has no legal nor do anyone have the right to force her to disclose the speech. 

Because the parties involved have the right not to have her speech to them disclosed since it was a private arrangement, not a public one.

She could of just shown up to sign autographs and still it shouldn't be anybody business since it was done while she was a private citizens.  How about we force candidates to release speeches they give during private fundraising?  We can't cause its private and protected unless someone sneak a camera and wiretap something like the Mitt Romney event ( which falls under a felony )

 
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If the speech was btw private parties, she has no legal nor do anyone have the right to force her to disclose the speech.

Because the parties involved have the right not to have her speech to them disclosed since it was a private arrangement, not a public one.

She could of just shown up to sign autographs and still it shouldn't be anybody business since it was done while she was a private citizens. How about we force candidates to release speeches they give during private fundraising? We can't cause its private and protected unless someone sneak a camera and wiretap something like the Mitt Romney event ( which falls under a felony )
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Nobody is saying she's legally required to. Just like nobody is saying Trump is legally required to disclose his tax returns. The fact that both people continually pushback on it makes skeptics wonder what is so damaging in their respective contents.

And the recording at Romney's event was not wiretapping, and it wasn't a felony. Just because doors are closed doesn't mean an event is protected by privacy rights.

 
No indictments in the Clinton e-mail probe so all the Bernie fans and Republicans hoping for that silver bullet aren't going to get it.

 
Darby27 said:
Well, Rule of Law is now dead in America.
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This is nothing new, let me tell you about a little thing called Watergate. They just didn't bother going down the almost charged but pardoned anyway route this time around.

She was never going to face charges, it was a pipe dream to think otherwise.
 
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Pssh... Look at Bridgegate it's almost four years on, and there were some very glaring cases of graft, where one guy got his own plane to fly from his STATE job in New Jersey to his home in South Carolina. United fired their CEO because of that, but nobody was charged or even went to trial. Chris Christie may be Trump's VP or Attorney General, and we got some of his emails or that fuck ing list of names. Meanwhile, you got everything from Hillary.

 
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detectiveconan16 said:
Pssh... Look at Bridgegate it's almost four years on, and there were some very glaring cases of graft, where one guy got his own plane to fly from his STATE job in New Jersey to his home in South Carolina. United fired their CEO because of that, but nobody was charged or even went to trial. Chris Christie may be Trump's VP or Attorney General, and we got some of his emails or that fuck ing list of names. Meanwhile, you got everything from Hillary.
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One politician makes traffic worse, the other endangers national security. Good comparison guy.

 
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The company I work for made me sign many agreements about privacy and security and non-disclosure when I started. If I started saving down the slightest bit of info from them I would be fired and if they found I had released any info, sued for everything I have.

My buddy works in the military in an office and has many confidential documents come and go and he was saying how he would go to jail if he mishandled those documents.

The most frusterating part of it as a conservative is that if we had a more level headed candidate on the republican ticket, this would be an easy victory for the republicans. Hilary is so lucky she is facing such a hated opponent.

I honestly don't trust either one of them with our nations secrets and White House.

This election does inspire me though, it shows me that no matter how corrupt and idiotic you are, you still can run for President. It makes me think that even an unsophisticated guy like me could run for office. At least I care about people and have some respect for the nations security.
 
Donken said:
The company I work for made me sign many agreements about privacy and security and non-disclosure when I started. If I started saving down the slightest bit of info from them I would be fired and if they found I had released any info, sued for everything I have.
My buddy works in the military in an office and has many confidential documents come and go and he was saying how he would go to jail if he mishandled those documents.
The most frusterating part of it as a conservative is that if we had a more level headed candidate on the republican ticket, this would be an easy victory for the republicans. Hilary is so lucky she is facing such a hated opponent.
I honestly don't trust either one of them with our nations secrets and White House.
This election does inspire me though, it shows me that no matter how corrupt and idiotic you are, you still can run for President. It makes me think that even an unsophisticated guy like me could run for office. At least I care about people and have some respect for the nations security.
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I understand why you don't trust Hillary Clinton with our nations secrets, but why not Donald Trump? Sincerely, what evidence of wrongdoing triggers this distrust..
 
Donken said:
The company I work for made me sign many agreements about privacy and security and non-disclosure when I started. If I started saving down the slightest bit of info from them I would be fired and if they found I had released any info, sued for everything I have.

My buddy works in the military in an office and has many confidential documents come and go and he was saying how he would go to jail if he mishandled those documents.

The most frusterating part of it as a conservative is that if we had a more level headed candidate on the republican ticket, this would be an easy victory for the republicans. Hilary is so lucky she is facing such a hated opponent.

I honestly don't trust either one of them with our nations secrets and White House.

This election does inspire me though, it shows me that no matter how corrupt and idiotic you are, you still can run for President. It makes me think that even an unsophisticated guy like me could run for office. At least I care about people and have some respect for the nations security.
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To go all conspiracy theory on it...Let's see...Trump has ties to the Clintons, has donated millions, has spent most of his life as a Democrat, then wins the nomination and completely implodes by making more and more outlandish claims as Clinton rises in the polls. Is that all coincidence...or was Trump's run designed to give her an easier road to the White House? Obviously the hacked DNC emails show that she was already selected to win the nomination in May of 2015, meaning the primary was supposed to be a cake walk. Ole Bernie was definitely an unexpected bump in the road and would explain why she was so ill-equipped to deal with him early on in the election.

Anyway, yes, it's full-on tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory, but what if?

 
My balls...they're hiding my balls. I can't seem to find them anywhere and yes, I looked in my mouth and arsehole. I think I need to ask this dude named Ben Ghazi. Maybe he knows where they hid them.

 
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berzirk said:
To go all conspiracy theory on it...Let's see...Trump has ties to the Clintons, has donated millions, has spent most of his life as a Democrat, then wins the nomination and completely implodes by making more and more outlandish claims as Clinton rises in the polls. Is that all coincidence...or was Trump's run designed to give her an easier road to the White House? Obviously the hacked DNC emails show that she was already selected to win the nomination in May of 2015, meaning the primary was supposed to be a cake walk. Ole Bernie was definitely an unexpected bump in the road and would explain why she was so ill-equipped to deal with him early on in the election.

Anyway, yes, it's full-on tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory, but what if?
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With the point society and the political landscape is at, I'd almost rather believe these crazy conspiracies than believe the truth. It's much easier to swallow that some inside job is going on than that the vast majority of people are just dumb as fuck and horrible to each other. At least with conspiracies, there's a legitimate cause and effect. With reality, we're just witnessing random acts of stupidity and the downfall of civilization.

In many ways, I feel like I've given up on acknowledging real life, lol.

 
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Just live my life. Same as I have under Obama. The sky wasnt falling then when my conservative friends freaked out and it isnt falling now.
 
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