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#33121 falsedichotomies  

falsedichotomies

Posted 11 August 2022 - 06:52 PM

Limited Rare has hinted (but not outright stated) that the NFT will act a certificate that grants you access to their next physical game.

 

Pretty ingenious troll if true.



#33122 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6771 Posts   Joined 18.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 11 August 2022 - 07:08 PM

Limited Rare has hinted (but not outright stated) that the NFT will act a certificate that grants you access to their next physical game.

 

Pretty ingenious troll if true.

They actually confirmed it on Twitter.  In fact, whoever runs that account was pretty specific about the process.



#33123 TheKbob   FakeyBro™, Esq. CAGiversary!   1955 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Posted 11 August 2022 - 07:12 PM

Yea, because NFTs have a great history of acceptance in the gaming space...



#33124 WingsDJY   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4387 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

Posted 11 August 2022 - 08:00 PM

I have always suspected that Poop Slinger was Limited Run or maybe just Douglas, but I'm reasonably certain that whoever is running Limited Rare Games now is affiliated with Hard Copy Games.  They have very similar case artwork and seem to work with the same developers.   

This is my understanding as well. There are two Limited Rare Games companies: one did Poop Slinger and the other has done every other release. The first may be associated with Limited Run (really hard to tell) but the second is almost definitely Hard Copy Games.



#33125 redrum666   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1862 Posts   Joined 16.8 Years Ago  

Posted 11 August 2022 - 09:20 PM



#33126 SeafoamGaming  

SeafoamGaming

Posted 12 August 2022 - 02:30 AM

This is my understanding as well. There are two Limited Rare Games companies: one did Poop Slinger and the other has done every other release. The first may be associated with Limited Run (really hard to tell) but the second is almost definitely Hard Copy Games.

 

Josh and Doug outright confirmed in public on their twitter that Limited Rare 2 is Hard Copy by connecting how their covers are laid out (both HCG and LimRare use the same identical layouts and disc IDs). Hard Copy gets defensive anytime it's brought up and the Limited Rare account breaks out of their racist roleplaying to get angry at you if you mention it to them. It's clearly a fomo-induced grift due to how Hard Copy stuff didn't sell so hot and somehow FOMO bait is the only way their games can get "Rarer". Both companies use Severed Press media for their physical books and the games are apparently made and shipped from the US despite HCG being in Australia (meaning their games do not get AU ratings and such and avoid all the expenses that would do). 

 

Apparently the HCG side of things has moved to VGP, which, probably the best since that store is pretty great. Still would love for them to drop the grift with Limited Rare since everyone knows it's them even when they laughably try to deny it or get weird at people instead of ever you know, confront Limited Rare directly like I would do if I was accused of running a company that I didn't.

 

 

Poop Slinger Limited Rare, I do not know, but I know for sure it isn't LRG in the slightest. Probably either the dev of Poop Slinger or a friend, or someone with a whole lot of money wondering if they could afford a single limited print, and try to do it for a silly game as a joke, meant to be a one-off. That's my theory.



#33127 Darshminder   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   427 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Darshminder

Posted 12 August 2022 - 07:52 AM

Josh and Doug outright confirmed in public on their twitter that Limited Rare 2 is Hard Copy by connecting how their covers are laid out (both HCG and LimRare use the same identical layouts and disc IDs). Hard Copy gets defensive anytime it's brought up and the Limited Rare account breaks out of their racist roleplaying to get angry at you if you mention it to them. It's clearly a fomo-induced grift due to how Hard Copy stuff didn't sell so hot and somehow FOMO bait is the only way their games can get "Rarer". Both companies use Severed Press media for their physical books and the games are apparently made and shipped from the US despite HCG being in Australia (meaning their games do not get AU ratings and such and avoid all the expenses that would do).

Apparently the HCG side of things has moved to VGP, which, probably the best since that store is pretty great. Still would love for them to drop the grift with Limited Rare since everyone knows it's them even when they laughably try to deny it or get weird at people instead of ever you know, confront Limited Rare directly like I would do if I was accused of running a company that I didn't.

https://twitter.com/...771669051052032

Poop Slinger Limited Rare, I do not know, but I know for sure it isn't LRG in the slightest. Probably either the dev of Poop Slinger or a friend, or someone with a whole lot of money wondering if they could afford a single limited print, and try to do it for a silly game as a joke, meant to be a one-off. That's my theory.


My leading theory is that Poop Slinger was released by the developer themselves, Diggity.net (Darth Leanza). I had reached out to Diggity.net at the time of its release (4/1/19) in an attempt to confirm it was not a scam, and Darth himself responded to me by email stating “This is indeed legit! There are limited copies.”

If it was in fact Diggity.net, it’s similar to what Vblank Entertainment Inc. did with Retro City Rampage, which kickstarted the whole limited print company fad. The only difference is that Poop Slinger was released on only one console, with all the extra copies held onto in order to exponentially increase the artificial “rarity”.

#33128 n64ra   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3274 Posts   Joined 15.1 Years Ago  

Posted 12 August 2022 - 03:02 PM

Wouldn't it make sense financially to sell those extra copies of Poop Slinger sooner rather than later? 



#33129 Darshminder   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   427 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Darshminder

Posted 12 August 2022 - 03:18 PM

Wouldn't it make sense financially to sell those extra copies of Poop Slinger sooner rather than later?


My assumption is that they intended to trickle sales at a later date, but that the blow-up with the “Limited Rare” logo on the back of the case styled after LRG’s logo caused legal issues preventing the further releases.

#33130 topchief1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   753 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 12 August 2022 - 04:06 PM

This is my understanding as well. There are two Limited Rare Games companies: one did Poop Slinger and the other has done every other release. The first may be associated with Limited Run (really hard to tell) but the second is almost definitely Hard Copy Games.


Fairly confident poop slinger guy was killed by the Russian mob and buried with the remaining copies he didn't sell.

#33131 WingsDJY   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4387 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

Posted 12 August 2022 - 04:14 PM

Fairly confident poop slinger guy was killed by the Russian mob and buried with the remaining copies he didn't sell.

Way to spoil the ending of that Limited Rare Games book

 

https://www.amazon.c...,aps,152&sr=8-2



#33132 BrandonJF   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   802 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 12 August 2022 - 04:54 PM

Ugh - I saw someone complain that the new facilitiy is doing that thing where they don't center the cover art and thanks to the switch case design, the case ends up cutting the cover sometimes.  Josh says they actually got the old facility to stop doing that (amazing).... as he says that I am thinking there just might be a reason why the new facility is able to operate so much quicker.  Given the cost of LRG CEs, I'm guessing the phrase "you get what you pay for" could be a tad foreign, but.....  

 

 

And, yep, finally got Castlevania and the cover art is pushed all the way to the bottom with a visible tear starting that would get worse if ever opened.  Of course.



#33133 nitrosmob   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   11250 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 12 August 2022 - 05:13 PM

Yeah I'm very close to done with LRG. I gave them at least one more order of Gotta Protectors (games like this deserve a physical), but their nonsense lately is well nonsense. Too big of heads to think clearly, plus most of their releases nowadays are stuff I don't like (Kemco RPG whatever) or just a bit too expensive.



#33134 BrandonJF   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   802 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

BrandonJF

Posted 12 August 2022 - 05:26 PM

Yeah I'm very close to done with LRG. I gave them at least one more order of Gotta Protectors (games like this deserve a physical), but their nonsense lately is well nonsense. Too big of heads to think clearly, plus most of their releases nowadays are stuff I don't like (Kemco RPG whatever) or just a bit too expensive.

I can't abandon them as quickly as I did SRG - they've got me when it comes to putting out old 80s/90s games.  This Castlevania Anniversary Collection was pretty much my dream video game release.  Plus, I really haven't encountered any terrible support from them yet, so I'm hoping they'll just replace this without much fuss.  Not sure how they'll handle it since I have a feeling the "torn cover art" thing is going to be an epidemic.  I've had a couple of support issues with them - one was partially my fault for missing an e-mail and not catching that a package was shipped and never arrived (it was for a trading card and replacement CE box and they really wanted me to jump through hoops to prove it wasn't delivered) and the other was not allowing a return for a damaged Street Fighter 4 CE because they sent that Steam code I didn't want or use.  Their support was never like what I've experienced with SRG, though, and they usually resolve issues with no problem.  They even send out replacements pretty quickly without requiring the initial shipment to be sent back first.  

 

I overall haven't had problems with LRG - I can understand people who do.  I'm rarely in a hurry for anything, though, and while I think stuff like not including a promised manual for "Dusk" is really bad, it's not enough to drive me away.  I was a little annoyed by how long it took for them to ship that distro title, but, really, I received it today, it was packaged well, and arrived in perfect condition.  I will take the almost 2 months it took to get here over Amazon shipping it in a plastic envelope.  



#33135 portnoyd   Amiiboversary! CAGiversary!   892 Posts   Joined 18.8 Years Ago  

portnoyd

Posted 12 August 2022 - 10:17 PM

I'm with the done with LRG crowd. I think the only thing I will order is PSVR games just because I am a sucker for those and no one else seems to be popping them out anymore on disc.



#33136 Tothoro  

Posted 12 August 2022 - 11:23 PM

I'm with the done with LRG crowd. I think the only thing I will order is PSVR games just because I am a sucker for those and no one else seems to be popping them out anymore on disc.

Perp Games still pops them out too, albeit they're not limprint. They're based in the UK so they often fly under the radar.



#33137 portnoyd   Amiiboversary! CAGiversary!   892 Posts   Joined 18.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 August 2022 - 01:23 AM

Perp Games still pops them out too, albeit they're not limprint. They're based in the UK so they often fly under the radar.

I have bought from them! Unfortunately they are cagey about what is going to get released in the ESRB and what will be PEGI. Last one to get ESRB was Vader Immortal. Gravitational on disc got canceled altogether. 



#33138 astrotide   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   110 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 13 August 2022 - 01:55 PM

Plus, I really haven't encountered any terrible support from them yet, so I'm hoping they'll just replace this without much fuss.  Not sure how they'll handle it since I have a feeling the "torn cover art" thing is going to be an epidemic.

I had an issue a couple years ago where I received a game with slightly damaged cover art - it had a bunch of dings and dents on it. Maybe fedex dropped something heavy on it repeatedly, who knows.

 

It was a very lengthy process with support asking for replacement cover art. I had to provide lots of pictures, and it was multiple steps back and forth, always with a long wait for their response.

 

After a few weeks I was approved to receive replacement cover art!!

 

Happy day!

 

A couple weeks later I got a sturdy cardboard envelope in the mail and I pulled that sweet, sweet replacement art out and was so excited...!

 

Except the replacement art was totally rippled up and worn out looking... It was in worse condition than the damaged one I originally received. Even used games usually have cover inserts in better condition.

 

Was so po'd I just shoved it back in the mint condition mailer and forgot about it til now. Just kept the original damaged art sheet with the game.

 

I guess I could have asked for another replacement insert but it was hell the first time.

 

I can only assume they crumpled the replacement art up and peed on it, then ironed it to make it look sort of presentable before shipping it out... just to mess with me.

 

Oh those kidders, they really got me good.



#33139 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   24835 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

Posted 13 August 2022 - 03:11 PM

I got TWO shipping notices in one day... Castlevania Anniversary CE and Star Wars KOTOR NS.

Pretty sure this means there's gonna be WW3 soon.

#33140 SeafoamGaming  

SeafoamGaming

Posted 13 August 2022 - 03:40 PM

Someone reminded me recently they had a forum they nuked, and i found a very unstable web archive of it. https://web.archive....mitedrunforums/ Anyone here have memories of it? Did josh or doug do anything insightful there? Their very first posts indicated they were very in touch with the community back then but I remember on discord people eventually called it “hyper toxic”.

#33141 Equippt  

Posted 13 August 2022 - 05:07 PM

Someone reminded me recently they had a forum they nuked, and i found a very unstable web archive of it. https://web.archive....mitedrunforums/ Anyone here have memories of it? Did josh or doug do anything insightful there? Their very first posts indicated they were very in touch with the community back then but I remember on discord people eventually called it “hyper toxic”.

My memories of that forum are all from pretty early on, maybe the first two or three years or so? In general, Doug was more active there while Josh was more active here, and they shared the same kinds of information in both places. Lots of answering questions about shipping times and delays and things like that (Skullgirls, Celeste, Pixeljunk Monsters 2, etc). The most insightful stuff I remember was probably disclosing odds of blind boxes, but those were likely disclosed elsewhere too.

As far as the "toxicity" there, my guess is it followed the course of every other online community that has sprung up around LRG: lots of enthusiasm at first, then a growing number of people sharing stories about bad experiences, then finally, after *most* people have had bad experiences, the few lucky true believers that remain call it toxic. It's happened everywhere that LRG fans have ever come together. Here, the official subreddit, the general limprint and collector subreddits, and apparently their own forum. I'm not on their Discord but I would guess it's only a matter of time before that becomes "toxic" too.

#33142 ecwfan   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   607 Posts   Joined 19.2 Years Ago  

Posted 13 August 2022 - 05:44 PM

A lot of the toxicity on the forums was due to one member, wowgek. Before the LRG forums died it was loaded with porn bots. Then there was some sort of PHP issue, where a coding change was necessary. LRG decided not to bother since their Discord was growing.



#33143 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6771 Posts   Joined 18.8 Years Ago  

bojay1997

Posted 13 August 2022 - 05:59 PM

My memories of that forum are all from pretty early on, maybe the first two or three years or so? In general, Doug was more active there while Josh was more active here, and they shared the same kinds of information in both places. Lots of answering questions about shipping times and delays and things like that (Skullgirls, Celeste, Pixeljunk Monsters 2, etc). The most insightful stuff I remember was probably disclosing odds of blind boxes, but those were likely disclosed elsewhere too.

As far as the "toxicity" there, my guess is it followed the course of every other online community that has sprung up around LRG: lots of enthusiasm at first, then a growing number of people sharing stories about bad experiences, then finally, after *most* people have had bad experiences, the few lucky true believers that remain call it toxic. It's happened everywhere that LRG fans have ever come together. Here, the official subreddit, the general limprint and collector subreddits, and apparently their own forum. I'm not on their Discord but I would guess it's only a matter of time before that becomes "toxic" too.

I was there the whole time and honestly, I don't remember Doug or Josh spending much time interacting over there.  The toxicity was not about bad experiences from what I recall, but mostly around personal conflicts between various kinds of collectors (e.g. collectors who wanted everything to be super limited and a group who agreed with the decision to start making some games open preorder or printed in larger quantities).  There was also a heaping dose of real-world politics and toxicity brought in by former Gamergaters and as others have mentioned, even a bunch of spam bots posting porn and unintelligible sales posts for vitamins and other products.  I'm not a fan of censorship, but that place became a moderation nightmare and nothing of value ever came of those discussions.  



#33144 Tothoro  

Posted 13 August 2022 - 06:29 PM

I wasn't an active participant and I just lurked (didn't register an account) so I don't have great insight. What I do remember is that it seemed like they were a little more transparent and open in the forum days, though that could've just been them being less accustomed to the NDA hellscape that the games industry sometimes is. I remember them apologizing for the higher price on stuff like Ray Gigant and Dariusburst but encouraging people to buy them because it was the "only way" they'd be able to license more Japanese stuff and shoot-em-ups.

 

I also always found it weird how they shuttered the forums. They kept acting like it would be a huge undertaking to get everything back up and running, but it was an easy fix that would've taken maybe an hour for a competent dev. I think I even shared a how-to article for the exact issue on Discord around the time it happened. It's pretty obvious it was just an easy out for them not to have to maintain the forums anymore (which did have legitimate issues with bots and spam), but for whatever reason they didn't want to say as much.



#33145 Equippt  

Posted 14 August 2022 - 12:03 AM

I was there the whole time and honestly, I don't remember Doug or Josh spending much time interacting over there. The toxicity was not about bad experiences from what I recall, but mostly around personal conflicts between various kinds of collectors (e.g. collectors who wanted everything to be super limited and a group who agreed with the decision to start making some games open preorder or printed in larger quantities). There was also a heaping dose of real-world politics and toxicity brought in by former Gamergaters and as others have mentioned, even a bunch of spam bots posting porn and unintelligible sales posts for vitamins and other products. I'm not a fan of censorship, but that place became a moderation nightmare and nothing of value ever came of those discussions.

Lol I was definitely out by the time the porn bots took over, but I remember the bickering. In the early days people would get flamed really bad for questioning any of LRG's practices. Another thing all of the different communities seem to have in common I suppose.

#33146 SeafoamGaming  

SeafoamGaming

Posted 14 August 2022 - 01:59 AM

Hm, yeah, I do remember the porn spam before it shuttered. Josh being less active than doug also tracks since he's the more "business man" CEO of the two, so it just seems like a big of a thing that got too out of hand and not something they could easily control, which is probably why they just stuck to discord (that and it being better than forums in general).

 

Unfortunately, I may have to warn that sadly, it seems the transphobe I mentioned in my article as being a LRG Discord Mod candidate is planning to report my twitter/try to take some sort of action for "doxxing" because I outed him as one and as the guy who went after me and other people on the Limprint reddits for... the crime of not liking LRG

 

 

 

 

so yeah, hoping they won't do a dumb dumb and ban me for sharing public info on someone being a transphobe (and also a guy LRG are very friendly with on discord/twitter), but yeah, this just makes me irked.

 



#33147 Equippt  

Posted 14 August 2022 - 02:57 AM

"Stuff comes when it's ready and no amount of crying can make it quicker" isn't a bad slogan but I still prefer You'll Get Your Shit Eventually ™

#33148 Twilightsparkle  

Twilightsparkle

Posted 15 August 2022 - 03:25 PM

Lol at people who bought Senran Kagura 2 for the 3DS from LRG. They haven’t shipped theirs out but now you can buy from the XSEED store for less. https://store.xseedg...uble-d-edition/

#33149 Vigilante   poyo CAGiversary!   38732 Posts   Joined 17.1 Years Ago  

Posted 15 August 2022 - 03:38 PM

Lol at people who bought Senran Kagura 2 for the 3DS from LRG. They haven’t shipped theirs out but now you can buy from the XSEED store for less. https://store.xseedg...uble-d-edition/

Plus no tax (for me at least) and free shipping at $50+!



#33150 Thomascagger  

Thomascagger

Posted 15 August 2022 - 04:27 PM

Xseed pulled the listing