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#7621 neowarp  

Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:52 PM

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There's a new competitor in town for these "Limited edition/run" games.... I think the pictures (posted some side by side comparisons) speak for themselves.

 

BOTH Play Asia and Limited Run Games sell these games on average of $30USD with limited runs of around 3K.... so the question is, who would you rather do a special limited edition of your favorite indie game, considering similar prices and print runs?

 

hmmmm ???? and for the record, I love both companies, and support both with their releases. I'm just saying, Play Asia is good competition to say the least :)    ....



#7622 Vigilante   CAG is the Key CAGiversary!   35978 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:04 PM

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There's a new competitor in town for these "Limited edition/run" games.... I think the pictures (posted some side by side comparisons) speak for themselves.

 

BOTH Play Asia and Limited Run Games sell these games on average of $30USD with limited runs of around 3K.... so the question is, who would you rather do a special limited edition of your favorite indie game, considering similar prices and print runs?

 

hmmmm ???? and for the record, I love both companies, and support both with their releases. I'm just saying, Play Asia is good competition to say the least :)    ....

They're also bigger than LRG and have been around for longer.


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#7623 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5324 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:59 PM

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There's a new competitor in town for these "Limited edition/run" games.... I think the pictures (posted some side by side comparisons) speak for themselves.

 

BOTH Play Asia and Limited Run Games sell these games on average of $30USD with limited runs of around 3K.... so the question is, who would you rather do a special limited edition of your favorite indie game, considering similar prices and print runs?

 

hmmmm ???? and for the record, I love both companies, and support both with their releases. I'm just saying, Play Asia is good competition to say the least :)    ....

I'd much rather have US region releases over Asian, so LRG for me.  I also don't like Play Asia's website, it's customer service, it's security issues over the years and the total failure of their payment system that somehow allowed them to charge my credit card the difference when they claimed they didn't store it after they only charged me shipping initially.  They shouldn't have had that credit card info stored but should have contacted me to pay the difference and it makes me uncomfortable that it's now subject to a hack.  



#7624 csbaker-az  

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 12:33 AM

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There's a new competitor in town for these "Limited edition/run" games.... I think the pictures (posted some side by side comparisons) speak for themselves.

 

BOTH Play Asia and Limited Run Games sell these games on average of $30USD with limited runs of around 3K.... so the question is, who would you rather do a special limited edition of your favorite indie game, considering similar prices and print runs?

 

hmmmm ???? and for the record, I love both companies, and support both with their releases. I'm just saying, Play Asia is good competition to say the least :)    ....

I like how you hid the fact that there is a giant orange PAL/PEGI or green Asia stamp on the game.  I'd dare say it was on purpose :D

 

That's an important distinction for people trying to be reasonable and only collect full sets for a particular regional alignment, usually their own geographic location.

 

A huge driver of LRG is that they are technically US releases and are thus mandatory for a 100% NA library that is the most sought after for many collectors.  And there appear to be a lot of people who are new to collecting who missed the boat on prior generations who have committed to being 100% on newer systems from Wii U / Vita / PS4 and onward.  

 

The massive explosion in game collecting happened sometime after the launch of 7th generation in 2005. For many people who took up collecting mid generation cycle, and have written off prior generations as a lost cause due to reseller prices, Vita, Wii U, PS4, and Switch are the first systems to launch since they decided to start collecting. So they are more committed since they can obtain every single game at MRSP or below from launch day before the speculation and reselling starts getting out of control after the fact.  It's no surprise how many people have or are close to 100% on Wii U and Vita.  Both came out in 2011-2012 after they became a collector, both had short runs with < 150 releases, so it's easily obtainable low hanging fruit compared to say SNES or TurboGrafx for someone that only started collecting in 2006.

 

And most of the people I've seen who have publicly committed to complete Vita/Wii U/PS4 sets are NA/US region.

 

While I can appreciate some of these other releases, they don't have the same weight or urgency as LRG for someone desperate to keep their 100% NA collection going when there is a giant orange or green logo in the lower right corner.  That makes it immediately non mandatory for a NA/US collector outside of being an extra optional trinket on the side for fun.

 

You don't see anywhere near the hype or reseller interest for Play Asia, Signature Games UK, or Rice UK releases as you do for LRG, Iffy, NIS, etc.  Except in the cases where Rice somehow inexplicably has an exclusive US/ESRB version of a game not even released in the US ....

 

That said Blue Rider looks gorgeous.  I wish it was NA/US :D  I may even pick it up still if its readily available but if not, no big.



#7625 chimpmeister   Hates gimmicks CAGiversary!   3892 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:04 AM

For only $30 (plus about $5 shipping) PA really nailed it on the Blue Rider release. I'm looking forward to getting Cursed Castilla, I bet it will be similar quality, and a perfect style of game for a limited release.

#7626 crazyed  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:54 AM

At this point I would rather support Play asia as they give far better value at the price point

 



#7627 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4437 Posts   Joined 11.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:58 AM

At this point I would rather support Play asia as they give far better value at the price point

I'm always glad to see more competition in any area of gaming, as it's good for the consumer in regards to options and pricing. One thing I would point out to those singing the Play-Asia praises in regards to what you get and the pricing. When it comes to CS beware, as they are not the best when it comes to lost, damaged, or just any issues in general.

 

They do have excellent packaging, as I may even buy any new Amiibo from them, as I know 100% they will arrive safely(it's worth the extra cost to me). So it is not a normal issue to get items damaged from them, but when it does happen, or if an order is lost(which can happen when dealing with international orders), and it may take months to get any issues properly resolved, so just be aware of this.



#7628 JoshTX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2136 Posts   Joined 7.7 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:44 PM

I like how you hid the fact that there is a giant orange PAL/PEGI or green Asia stamp on the game.  I'd dare say it was on purpose :D

 

That's an important distinction for people trying to be reasonable and only collect full sets for a particular regional alignment, usually their own geographic location.

 

A huge driver of LRG is that they are technically US releases and are thus mandatory for a 100% NA library that is the most sought after for many collectors.  And there appear to be a lot of people who are new to collecting who missed the boat on prior generations who have committed to being 100% on newer systems from Wii U / Vita / PS4 and onward.  

 

The massive explosion in game collecting happened sometime after the launch of 7th generation in 2005. For many people who took up collecting mid generation cycle, and have written off prior generations as a lost cause due to reseller prices, Vita, Wii U, PS4, and Switch are the first systems to launch since they decided to start collecting. So they are more committed since they can obtain every single game at MRSP or below from launch day before the speculation and reselling starts getting out of control after the fact.  It's no surprise how many people have or are close to 100% on Wii U and Vita.  Both came out in 2011-2012 after they became a collector, both had short runs with < 150 releases, so it's easily obtainable low hanging fruit compared to say SNES or TurboGrafx for someone that only started collecting in 2006.

 

And most of the people I've seen who have publicly committed to complete Vita/Wii U/PS4 sets are NA/US region.

 

While I can appreciate some of these other releases, they don't have the same weight or urgency as LRG for someone desperate to keep their 100% NA collection going when there is a giant orange or green logo in the lower right corner.  That makes it immediately non mandatory for a NA/US collector outside of being an extra optional trinket on the side for fun.

 

You don't see anywhere near the hype or reseller interest for Play Asia, Signature Games UK, or Rice UK releases as you do for LRG, Iffy, NIS, etc.  Except in the cases where Rice somehow inexplicably has an exclusive US/ESRB version of a game not even released in the US ....

 

That said Blue Rider looks gorgeous.  I wish it was NA/US :D  I may even pick it up still if its readily available but if not, no big.

You made several valid points here that I agree with but most of them only apply to serious collectors and people going for 100% NA sets, and I'm not even sure that was the point of his post, seemed to me that he was just wanting to gush about the overall quality and presentation of the product we received (Blue Rider) which I agree was stellar.

 

I am by no means going for a 100% PS4 set. That's crazy to me, and way outside my window of spending. Especially with how successful the PS4 has been and will continue to be, we could end up with thousands of games for region 1 alone. People like him and I probably fall into another niche category of gamers who want to own physical copies of all of their games but don't want to go for a full set. While I would prefer to keep my personal collection (I'm up to 102 PS4 games now) region 1, I don't have a problem with buying a PAL game if it's something I want to play and it's only available in that region/format. I'm actually about to grab Slain, and while I wish it were a region 1 release, I'll take a PAL physical copy over a digital download any day of the week.   


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#7629 chimpmeister   Hates gimmicks CAGiversary!   3892 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:57 PM

You made several valid points here that I agree with but most of them only apply to serious collectors and people going for 100% NA sets, and I'm not even sure that was the point of his post, seemed to me that he was just wanting to gush about the overall quality and presentation of the product we received (Blue Rider) which I agree was stellar.

I am by no means going for a 100% PS4 set. That's crazy to me, and way outside my window of spending. Especially with how successful the PS4 has been and will continue to be, we could end up with thousands of games for region 1 alone. People like him and I probably fall into another niche category of gamers who want to own physical copies of all of their games but don't want to go for a full set. While I would prefer to keep my personal collection (I'm up to 102 PS4 games now) region 1, I don't have a problem with buying a PAL game if it's something I want to play and it's only available in that region/format. I'm actually about to grab Slain, and while I wish it were a region 1 release, I'll take a PAL physical copy over a digital download any day of the week.

Totally agree. No way I could get a complete NA set for either PS4 or Vita, but that's fine, because there are genres of games that I just don't enjoy and won't buy just to add them to my collection. I buy the games I like, and Blue Rider and Cursed Castilla are both solidly in that category (Slain too, although the difficulty is a bit rough).

I preordered the Vita LE of Slain (not out yet), and have been thinking about the PS4 version. Which version did you order?

#7630 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4437 Posts   Joined 11.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:16 PM

I don't have a problem with buying a PAL game if it's something I want to play and it's only available in that region/format. I'm actually about to grab Slain, and while I wish it were a region 1 release, I'll take a PAL physical copy over a digital download any day of the week.   

Same here, I have most of the PAL Vita releases where a US version wasn't going to happen. I think Child of Light is the only exception, as they stealth released that in the US, and then I found out the PAL version is more complete, as some extra content is included, where it wasn't in the US version, so I was still happy with the PAL version because of this. I only bought that version originally, as there was no plans for a US version. I recently got the PAL Epic Mickey title, as the US rated version is just silly in price, and I was happy to get the EU version on the cheap(at least compered to the US rated one).

 

I have a rather decent Vita collection, but I doubt I'll ever have 100% complete, as I just don't see buying certain titles, but if I can continue to get games here and there at decent prices, who knows? But considering how any day, the Vita could be 100% ended, I'm sure certain titles will continue to rise in price, and might make it hard.



#7631 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1885 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:20 PM

Every one of these companies has pros and cons.   I don't support companies out of loyalty, I support them when they have games I actually want to own physically.   When the game is right, ultimately as long as the company can take a payment and get me the game it's good.  If they go above and beyond with packaging materials, customer service, and other stuff... even better.

 

 

  so the question is, who would you rather do a special limited edition of your favorite indie game, considering similar prices and print runs?

Yacht Club Games

 

The availability will be the best (no fighting for copies) because they'll either do preorders through Fangamer or they'll do a limited Retail release which will include sites like Amazon.  To me, availability trumps most things when it comes to my "favorite indie game".   A nice bonus to the game is that it'll likely be a full NA release with an ESRB logo and all if YCG handles it.  While this isn't a major factor in my purchasing decisions, it's cool when a game actually looks fit for retail shelves versus the more generic unofficial looking releases that have no rating on the cover and strange numbers on the spine.  As for packaging, with the Vita version of Shovel Knight, Fangamer sent the games out in a custom folded vita box thing.  While I've not had a damaged vita game from a bubble envelope yet... that extra effort in packaging means a lot.

 

Still..

 

I don't get a choice of who gets the games I want.  So fantasy decisions like this aren't very meaningful.   All I can do is hope with more companies doing this stuff there's a better chance I'll get some of the games I actually love in physical form.  I can also hope that as one company does something better than the other (CS, Shipping materials, weeding out Resellers, making games more available and less frustrating to buy), that all of the companies raise their game a little.  It would be nice if there wasn't a list of cons for each company.


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#7632 JoshTX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2136 Posts   Joined 7.7 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:43 PM


I preordered the Vita LE of Slain (not out yet), and have been thinking about the PS4 version. Which version did you order?

I haven't bought it yet, but I'm probably just going to get the standard edition for PS4 as opposed to the Signature edition, for budgetary reasons. I want to play Slain mostly because it reminds me of SOTN, but with as hard as people are saying it is, I'm not sure how much I'll really invest into it if it starts getting me super frustrated, lol. 


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#7633 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   21988 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:43 PM

Totally agree. No way I could get a complete NA set for either PS4 or Vita, but that's fine, because there are genres of games that I just don't enjoy and won't buy just to add them to my collection. I buy the games I like, and Blue Rider and Cursed Castilla are both solidly in that category (Slain too, although the difficulty is a bit rough).

I preordered the Vita LE of Slain (not out yet), and have been thinking about the PS4 version. Which version did you order?

Something to consider if you order any PS4 CEs: loose discs can't be fixed in a CE. I have both Aragami and Slain from SEG and Aragami arrived ok, but Slain was a loose disc. I didn't wanna return it (would cost a fortune) so I asked the guys to check my copy before sending to make sure it wasn't a loose disc, they said they would (and just after shipping it, they emailed me saying they checked it before sending) and that one also arrived with a loose disc. 


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#7634 Dashey10  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:21 PM

I'm going for a complete PS4 and Vita collection and it hasn't been too intense. one of my friends already surpassed 300 ps4 games last week.

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#7635 csbaker-az  

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:02 PM

I'm at 477 on PS4 though a great many are duplicates that are difficult to eliminate from a simple like count (CE and normal editions etc).  It's easier to look at the sliding FIFO window of the 30 confirmed releases I don't have yet that I use to wait for sales, etc. 

 

New game comes out at 59.99 and if I don't feel like getting it right away I'll pop an older, more likely to be out of stock soon sub $30 game off the top and add the new releases to the bottom to keep that "don't have" list a fixed manageable size.  Generally that means the list is also the most recent releases as a result and never has anything older than 3 months or so.

 

Always a razors edge and constant struggle between waiting for a decent sale vs being discontinued. Resellers are quick with inflating prices when that happens.  I don't wait too long.  If I notice something  starting to be 3rd party only and resellers start licking their lips I might have to settle for $59.99 at Fry's or Walmart or some place like that. I never wait long enough for something to be completely gone at every real retailer at the same time.  When Best Buy and Amazon aren't stocking it anymore it's time to scramble.  Usually I'm able to catch most games at $32 tops but worse case is I lose my $12 minimum GCU/Prime discount but still never more than MSRP.

 

Of course I've been doing this enough to know what to prioritize.  The small Sodesco and Nordic releases, the $19 new physical indie games, the niche Japanese titles, the obscure stuff or silent physical ports eons after the digital or international release that get no attention (eg Gravity Rush) etc. Mainstream Western AAA games generally have the lowest priority as they're are billions of them and they aren't going anywhere.



#7636 Jurai  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:12 PM

Something to consider if you order any PS4 CEs: loose discs can't be fixed in a CE. I have both Aragami and Slain from SEG and Aragami arrived ok, but Slain was a loose disc. I didn't wanna return it (would cost a fortune) so I asked the guys to check my copy before sending to make sure it wasn't a loose disc, they said they would (and just after shipping it, they emailed me saying they checked it before sending) and that one also arrived with a loose disc. 

I mean, it's entirely possible the disc came loose in transit



#7637 HaloGX   DCGX CAGiversary!   691 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:27 PM

Looks at it this way: if these PS4 games aren't going to be opened, then a loose disc is an easy way to prove the game is in it and not an empty case. If these PS4 games are going to be played, then the game will be taken out of the case and put back in to secure it after being played.

 

Basically, I, like I'm sure other are, am tired of all the loose disc talk.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:54 PM

Finally, releases for next week!


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#7639 Doomstink   AUTOBOT Retailer Representative   2654 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:11 PM

Just to make sure you guys know - it isn't Play-Asia doing those releases. It's eastasiasoft - Play-Asia is just the distributor. I'd prefer that credit for these releases go to the guy actually making them happen. Nils (who runs EAS) is a collector so he gets this better than any of our other "competitors" (in quotes because I don't necessarily feel like we're all competitors here). Nils is legit and isn't just jumping on a bandwagon like some of the others.


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#7640 csbaker-az  

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:13 PM

Is there a committed gauranteed time window for Nova to go up before DB? 1 min? 5 mins?



#7641 Doomstink   AUTOBOT Retailer Representative   2654 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:15 PM

You guys are right, I'm just a big dumb panda. I don't know what I was thinking. Forget I even said anything. I'm just another troll on the internet with nothing better to do.

We don't press our own discs. Everything is manufactured by Sony and sent to us sealed from their factory. If a game doesn't work, we played no part in that. This did not affect all Astebreed discs nor has it ever been an issue in the past. I expect that Sony will swiftly resolve this for us when we bring it up with them. 

 

As we have no part in the actual manufacturing of these, you're just as likely to see this issue with ANY PS4 game. Giving up on us solely because of this one experience, without even contacting us, is ill advised. We'll get you a functioning copy. This isn't something we had control over.


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#7642 Doomstink   AUTOBOT Retailer Representative   2654 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:18 PM

Do you guys still use those blue LRG boxes or have you moved on the more cube-ish shape white boxes that I got for my recent order (Astebreed, Pang)? 

 

Frankly, while the blue LRG boxes were cool, they were a bit too cozy for 3 games + OST. I liked the white box more. 

We're trying to maintain a wider variety of sizes so we can better fit orders. Can't guarantee what boxes will be used for what configurations, though, as that will come down to the shipping team which I don't really oversee.


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#7643 Dashey10  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:24 PM

If for whatever reason, I was lucky enough to get all 4 games, would they have to be shipped separately? And would shipping still be $7 in the US?

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#7644 Masterkyo   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   11272 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:30 PM

 

I really hope LRG not so cheap shipped out Dariousburst  CE with bubbles mail instead box.  Hope no one get piss off the Box got dent or smash up!


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#7645 csbaker-az  

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:35 PM

 

I really hope LRG not so cheap shipped out Dariousburst  CE with bubbles mail instead box.  Hope no one get piss off the Box got dent or smash up!

They have already said boxes.  

 

Anyone shipping a $100 , 2000 print run big box limited edition in a bubble mailer doesn't deserve to be in the business of producing collectible games.



#7646 crazyed  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:08 PM

I'm always glad to see more competition in any area of gaming, as it's good for the consumer in regards to options and pricing. One thing I would point out to those singing the Play-Asia praises in regards to what you get and the pricing. When it comes to CS beware, as they are not the best when it comes to lost, damaged, or just any issues in general.

 

They do have excellent packaging, as I may even buy any new Amiibo from them, as I know 100% they will arrive safely(it's worth the extra cost to me). So it is not a normal issue to get items damaged from them, but when it does happen, or if an order is lost(which can happen when dealing with international orders), and it may take months to get any issues properly resolved, so just be aware of this.

From my experiences so far I didn't have issues with both companies.  And from reading around I wouldn't give limited run a high score on communication.



#7647 Pheria   Trash Tier CAGiversary!   1050 Posts   Joined 6.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:09 PM

I'm not sure I see them as competitors yet either. There needs to be more of them for that to happen. It's kind of like how NISA / ATLUS / XSEED / IFI / etc are sorta competitors and have their differences, but in the end the more the merrier because it means more games get localized, or in this case there's more capacity for smaller games to get physical releases.


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#7648 csbaker-az  

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:15 PM

I'm not sure I see them as competitors yet either. There needs to be more of them for that to happen. It's kind of like how NISA / ATLUS / XSEED / IFI / etc are sorta competitors and have their differences, but in the end the more the merrier because it means more games get localized, or in this case there's more capacity for smaller games to get physical releases.

Need more of these companies to balance out the Call of Duty garbage.  So happy to see Japanese games start making a comeback and fighting back against the Western AAA FPS Microsoft/EA/Activision abuse of last gen.



#7649 Serpentor   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5163 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:31 PM

The video above contains three little ships, BLUE, GREEN and YELLOW.  From the LRG e-mail I got, the description says

 

The boxed set includes the game, a soundtrack CD, and two Silver Hawk spaceship models (Red and Blue colors).

 

So.... No Green?  It's not like the Japanese CE?



#7650 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5324 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:23 PM

The video above contains three little ships, BLUE, GREEN and YELLOW.  From the LRG e-mail I got, the description says

 

The boxed set includes the game, a soundtrack CD, and two Silver Hawk spaceship models (Red and Blue colors).

 

So.... No Green?  It's not like the Japanese CE?

Correct.