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#25741 HaloGX   DCGX CAGiversary!   946 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 08:09 PM

Tetris Effect is currently $20 new at BestBuy and Gamestop.  Not too bad a deal if it's your thing.   I can't remember what I saw on GS but BB had the option to buy it online.   it's nothing I want or need, but it's an option for those that maybe want a copy but don't care about the other stuff.

 

I think it's past time to let go of what LRG was planned to be back before Breach and Clear released on vita.  They've broken pretty much all of those plans and adjusted as a company and is currently something different.  Now they are just another publisher at this point except much slower in bringing things to market.  Maybe we can talk about the company without it seeming like some personal attack.  They are a business.  They have a large staff to support.  So they will continue to sell a lot of stuff to try and meet those demands.  We have a first with the second run of Night Trap.  We've had other stores selling games on LRG since the SRG partnership.   And digital games stopped being preserved around the time of Rainbow Moon when they shipped too close to launch and so didn't have patches and stuff.   They are a mass producer of limited print games now.   Really it was inevitable they'd lose that indie grass roots thing they had with Breach and Clear if they grew beyond the two man team... and of course that happened.  So we have reprints of common cheap classic console games and now a reprint of a regular retail release game.   Times change.  Your view of what the company is needs to adjust to see them as they are now not as how you wish they were.

It's not that a company, any company, needs to change some to stay solvent, it's the cash grabs and their straight up ideology change. They said they are gamers and collectors too (which I believe) and they don't like aspects of how those communities are treated at times but big publishers, and now they're doing the exact same thing they hated.

 

They can be a smaller publisher. That's fine. In my honest opinion, that had to happen sooner or later for their company to survive because the business model set forth with the Vita releases was not sustainable. And they are still providing a great avenue for smaller devs to get their game out there, because pretty much any LRG release gets mainstream coverage. That is not in dispute.

 

But what I laid out above isn't entirely what they are doing, and they have been getting away even from that more and more. I think something like this, with 'Tetris Effect,' is a prime example. It's a year old game, originally published by Sony with a big print run. A print run that is still available readily and has seen a price drop by 50% earlier this year (to the current $20). A price we all know is lower than whatever LRG will charge for their reversible foil cover version with lovely patches.

 

There's a difference in adjusting your business to survive and feeling slimy, and, unfortunately, LRG feels more slimy nowadays than anything else.



#25742 anotherpoorgamer   Bird's Nest Hair CAGiversary!   5459 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

anotherpoorgamer

Posted Yesterday, 09:54 PM

Reprinting  "Tetris Effect" and it isn't even out of print?!  Why not out of print titles like  "Job Simulator," "What Remains of Edith Finch," "Rez," and/or imports.



#25743 Loose Rattled Gamer  

Loose Rattled Gamer

Posted Yesterday, 10:00 PM

I hope the reprint Breach and Clear again
I’d love a big F U to the greedy hoarding cunts.

Meow :beer:

#25744 Dr_dreadful  

Dr_dreadful

Posted Yesterday, 10:09 PM

 

 

There's a difference in adjusting your business to survive and feeling slimy, and, unfortunately, LRG feels more slimy nowadays than anything else.

 

How are they slimy? They saw an opportunity to make money, and as a business your job is to do exactly that. They had a chance to release like tetris which is a high profile name just as big as say minecraft and they took it. They are in existence to make money by selling games. 

 

Do you think they sit around saying "well we could sell this game but let's first evaluate if we should or not and we need to consider every customer's perception of us selling this down to each individual"? Or do you realize actually what they do is "hey we can sell this game. Ok let's do it"?

 

I never understood all the disdain for lrg. They sell games. If you dont want the game then simply dont buy it, it really is that easy. Dont want to pay for a game and then wait to get it when it is a pre order? Then dont buy it. All of the complaints about them can simply be solved with, dont buy it. I mean they haven't done anything illegal, unethical, immoral ever and certainly have never done anything to anyone personally that effected their lives. So if you dont like them then dont buy their games but complaining they dont cater to you personally or to a small group is pointless. 

 

Everyone here chooses to do business with them, no one has to and if you chose to do business with them then it's because you're willing to do it.

 

I've bought like over 75 games from them since I got their first release and never had an issue. I've had to wait sometimes longer than other times but aside from that everything has gone exactly as was expected and they did exactly what I agreed to with the transaction. Sometimes the wait is a pain but I am pre ordering something and I know that so I can accept it, if time truly was a major factor then I should have gotten the digital version to begin with.



#25745 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   2904 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 10:25 PM

 

There's a difference in adjusting your business to survive and feeling slimy, and, unfortunately, LRG feels more slimy nowadays than anything else.

For me, doing business with any company has to do with knowing the companies weaknesses and determining if the overall deal is worth navigating those weaknesses.   For LRG right now that's a massively long shipping time and sometimes questionable packaging.  They seem to handle returns fairly well, so ultimately for me it's just... "is it worth the wait".   Additionally is "will the game be playable without updates".

 

As far as LRG feeling slimy... I kind of got that feeling early on when I suggested trying other shipping package options with suggestions for envelopes with larger bubbles and ended up getting chewed out and followed around the forum by one of the founders with them acting like I kicked their puppy.   Clearly they are a sensitive couple of dudes and they kind of creep me out a bit even still.  But in the end that isn't a factor in me doing business if they have a product I want.  So far 2019 has been no purchases thus far... 2018 was maybe two.  I did feel a bit burned by the Golf Story situation.  Lying to say they were ready to ship.  Shipping the game without a critical patch from a full year earlier.  It just made them lower on my list if there are other sources for the same game physically.

 

I don't care if LRG releases 100 games a week and half of them are reprints of retail games.  It doesn't affect what I buy nor change my somewhat low opinion of them.   What it would do is make me think the wait for shipping will be even longer and could keep me from buying something I legit want.  But that's my issue as a consumer.   Don't like the company being a sell out to the industry... don't do business with them.  But outside of them doing something that is an actual social issue or something else that crosses a line... them selling too much stuff that violates their set business plan from day one isn't going to phase me.



#25746 Loose Rattled Gamer  

Loose Rattled Gamer

Posted Yesterday, 10:39 PM

How are they slimy? They saw an opportunity to make money, and as a business your job is to do exactly that. They had a chance to release like tetris which is a high profile name just as big as say minecraft and they took it. They are in existence to make money by selling games. 
 
Do you think they sit around saying "well we could sell this game but let's first evaluate if we should or not and we need to consider every customer's perception of us selling this down to each individual"? Or do you realize actually what they do is "hey we can sell this game. Ok let's do it"?
 
I never understood all the disdain for lrg. They sell games. If you dont want the game then simply dont buy it, it really is that easy. Dont want to pay for a game and then wait to get it when it is a pre order? Then dont buy it. All of the complaints about them can simply be solved with, dont buy it. I mean they haven't done anything illegal, unethical, immoral ever and certainly have never done anything to anyone personally that effected their lives. So if you dont like them then dont buy their games but complaining they dont cater to you personally or to a small group is pointless. 
 
Everyone here chooses to do business with them, no one has to and if you chose to do business with them then it's because you're willing to do it.
 
I've bought like over 75 games from them since I got their first release and never had an issue. I've had to wait sometimes longer than other times but aside from that everything has gone exactly as was expected and they did exactly what I agreed to with the transaction. Sometimes the wait is a pain but I am pre ordering something and I know that so I can accept it, if time truly was a major factor then I should have gotten the digital version to begin with.


Sad Loose Rattling Games apologist are sad.

#25747 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6359 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 10:46 PM

How are they slimy? They saw an opportunity to make money, and as a business your job is to do exactly that. They had a chance to release like tetris which is a high profile name just as big as say minecraft and they took it. They are in existence to make money by selling games. 

 

Do you think they sit around saying "well we could sell this game but let's first evaluate if we should or not and we need to consider every customer's perception of us selling this down to each individual"? Or do you realize actually what they do is "hey we can sell this game. Ok let's do it"?

 

I never understood all the disdain for lrg. They sell games. If you dont want the game then simply dont buy it, it really is that easy. Dont want to pay for a game and then wait to get it when it is a pre order? Then dont buy it. All of the complaints about them can simply be solved with, dont buy it. I mean they haven't done anything illegal, unethical, immoral ever and certainly have never done anything to anyone personally that effected their lives. So if you dont like them then dont buy their games but complaining they dont cater to you personally or to a small group is pointless. 

 

Everyone here chooses to do business with them, no one has to and if you chose to do business with them then it's because you're willing to do it.

 

I've bought like over 75 games from them since I got their first release and never had an issue. I've had to wait sometimes longer than other times but aside from that everything has gone exactly as was expected and they did exactly what I agreed to with the transaction. Sometimes the wait is a pain but I am pre ordering something and I know that so I can accept it, if time truly was a major factor then I should have gotten the digital version to begin with.

I'm not sure you understand much about niche businesses like this.  Sure, everyone is free to choose whether or not to do business with them, but the continuing growth and success of their business and therefore your ability to continue to buy product from them does rely to some degree on the perception of their customer base as to whether or not they are operating in a good faith and ethical manner.  I don't think tweeting out this morning that their version of the game would have a newer version on the disc than the one at retail before they even confirmed it (correct me if I'm wrong, but I still don't think they have confirmed it) was appropriate.  Similarly, I don't think their continuing refusal to take any responsibility for a handful of their games that were released broken like Night Trap on the Vita is a particularly ethical or defensible position given that they are the publisher of the physical version and the retailer.  Regardless, I agree with you that there have been a lot of unreasonable complaints and attacks hurled their way over the past four years. 

 

At the end of the day, it's pretty clear that Josh and Douglas are gamers and collectors who maybe aren't that great at business.  I don't think they operate from malice or even a profit motive, but I do think that Josh in particular is afraid to say "no" to virtually any company with any kind of opportunity for them, even if it clearly isn't good for LRG or their customer base.  Similarly, I think Josh might have some kind of compulsiveness disorder as he seems to have a massive game collection and a self-professed desire to release as much "cool stuff" as possible which seems to be very unhealthy for both his business and the customers who frequent it, many of which probably have similar compulsiveness and FOMO.  I think people place too much personal stock in companies like this and get too emotionally involved, both on the love and hate side.  When you can come to terms with the fact that they are a company and companies don't have feelings and ultimately exist only to serve their owners/founders or shareholders, whether that's to generate profit or to just serve as a conduit to release endless plastic shelf trophies, you'll find yourself being a lot happier and spending a lot less time in this thread.  



#25748 Nothing-   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   8684 Posts   Joined 8.1 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 11:07 PM

How are they slimy? They saw an opportunity to make money, and as a business your job is to do exactly that. They had a chance to release like tetris which is a high profile name just as big as say minecraft and they took it. They are in existence to make money by selling games. 

 

Do you think they sit around saying "well we could sell this game but let's first evaluate if we should or not and we need to consider every customer's perception of us selling this down to each individual"? Or do you realize actually what they do is "hey we can sell this game. Ok let's do it"?

 

I never understood all the disdain for lrg. They sell games. If you dont want the game then simply dont buy it, it really is that easy. Dont want to pay for a game and then wait to get it when it is a pre order? Then dont buy it. All of the complaints about them can simply be solved with, dont buy it. I mean they haven't done anything illegal, unethical, immoral ever and certainly have never done anything to anyone personally that effected their lives. So if you dont like them then dont buy their games but complaining they dont cater to you personally or to a small group is pointless. 

 

Everyone here chooses to do business with them, no one has to and if you chose to do business with them then it's because you're willing to do it.

 

I've bought like over 75 games from them since I got their first release and never had an issue. I've had to wait sometimes longer than other times but aside from that everything has gone exactly as was expected and they did exactly what I agreed to with the transaction. Sometimes the wait is a pain but I am pre ordering something and I know that so I can accept it, if time truly was a major factor then I should have gotten the digital version to begin with.

I never understood the disdain for Microtransactions and DLC practices from Activision, EA, and Ubisoft.  If you don't like it, don't buy from them.   There is nothing illegal or immoral about it.  Everyone chooses to buy their games; you don't need to buy anything from them. 



#25749 blueweltall   Kill the Batman CAGiversary!   6515 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

blueweltall

Posted Yesterday, 11:28 PM

Preserving cash flow.

#25750 jedex   Elite Chemist CAGiversary!   916 Posts   Joined 7.6 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 11:53 PM

I hope the reprint Breach and Clear again
I’d love a big F U to the greedy hoarding cunts.

Meow

Noooo
I still have 4 copies and plan to retire one day

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#25751 Jurai  

Posted Today, 01:44 AM

I can't really legitimize this first hand, but the story I've been told is that Josh is driving the money money money drive of the company and Doug is sad to be on board as they continually disregard their original goals, but idk

#25752 Squarehard   Nyaa~ CAGiversary!   20999 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted Today, 01:49 AM

I can't really legitimize this first hand, but the story I've been told is that Josh is driving the money money money drive of the company and Doug is sad to be on board as they continually disregard their original goals, but idk

To be honest, I'd be perfectly okay with it if whoever is the driving factor behind this to just come out and admit that's the direction they're going.

 

It's the fake sincerity that I don't appreciate.



#25753 redrum666   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   610 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted Today, 01:58 AM

I have a feeling 11/22 will be a "break week" considering the Pop Up shop is that weekend.  Actually, I don't think they've announced anything past this Friday.

 

FYI looks like Best Buy will be getting copies of Blasphemous.  Still makes no sense to me that they didn't order copies of Blazing Chrome and Stranger Things 3.

 

looks like best buy is getting both switch and ps4 copies of Stranger Things 3

 

https://limitedrunga...ber-game-switch

https://limitedrunga...vember-game-ps4



#25754 Nothing-   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   8684 Posts   Joined 8.1 Years Ago  

Posted Today, 02:03 AM

It's the fake sincerity that I don't appreciate.

Yup it's the complete deviation from their year1-2 mission statement, in addition to the continued disingenuous public remarks. 



#25755 BrandonJF   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   613 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

BrandonJF

Posted Today, 02:44 AM

looks like best buy is getting both switch and ps4 copies of Stranger Things 3

 

https://limitedrunga...ber-game-switch

https://limitedrunga...vember-game-ps4

In case anyone needed an example of something that may be considered "slimy".  I have no problem with that if they want to allow people who ordered prior to adding the Best Buy blurb to the page to cancel, but somehow I don't think that is going to happen.

And trying to sell Tetris Effect by pretending like it might vanish off of retail shelves before they put it up for order.... that is pretty lame.   I don't think Josh or Doug could possibly write that without feeling like it was a bit much.   It was like a huge reach to try to make it fit some semblance of their "purpose".   

But, really, just OWN the whole Tetris Effect thing.  Don't try to scare people into buying it by creating this false scenario where the current release may be completely sold through at retail.