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#13411 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4238 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 12:01 AM

It's always seemed pretty simple to me. They advertise a print run of 1,500 for game x. That covers all copies that exist. They have said time and time and time again that some are kept behind for conventions, give aways, promos, and to cover damaged items. So we know the total print run, and it's safe to assume that maybe about 200ish of that print run is held back and not sold. Why does everyone always default to thinking that everything is against some obscure law? It seems pretty cut and dry to me; and they are in no way lying or being deceitful. 


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#13412 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5557 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 12:41 AM

It's always seemed pretty simple to me. They advertise a print run of 1,500 for game x. That covers all copies that exist. They have said time and time and time again that some are kept behind for conventions, give aways, promos, and to cover damaged items. So we know the total print run, and it's safe to assume that maybe about 200ish of that print run is held back and not sold. Why does everyone always default to thinking that everything is against some obscure law? It seems pretty cut and dry to me; and they are in no way lying or being deceitful. 

Exactly, I think people are assuming that state laws that apply to certain types of advertising (i.e. auto sales and other specific types of products) where bait and switch was a huge issue somehow universally apply to other types of selling activity.  That's just not the case and certainly not here where they aren't promising to sell any particular quantity but are instead telling consumers that a certain quantity was pressed.  



#13413 ihadmail  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 12:51 AM

Oh wow. I certainly wasn't insinuating that LRG is falsely advertising and didn't mean to start any arguments.



#13414 bradbo   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   761 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 12:57 AM

Lol. Watch your blaspheming.

#13415 YawnAmuroYawn  

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 01:48 AM

Lol. Watch your blasphemy.

He would be blaspheming the name of LRG.

 

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#13416 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   22265 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 01:55 AM

But they generally don't advertise it that way.  All they say is the print run is x.  With limited exceptions where they specifically call out the number of bundles or something like that, they never promise to sell a certain number in each batch.  I mean I suppose if they claimed the print run was 1,500 but it was really 2,000, that could be an issue, but that seems like it's not the case.  

Good point, never really thought of it that way. For CB it says "Only 4,000 copies of Caladrius Blaze have been pressed" but nothing about how many will actually be sold. 

 


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#13417 Dashey10  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 02:19 AM

I'm pretty sure Josh has mentioned that they'll be terminated by Sony if they do something like that since Sony employees are watching over the print Run and their advertisements and such.

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#13418 ihadmail  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 02:31 AM

No matter how it's done, there HAS to be a mismatch between units produced and units sold. If there's not an overproduction compared to sales then they can't hold some units back as replacements/promos. 

 

From the way Doug answered the question in the interview, it sounds like they sell less than they advertise producing. This would mean that your limited availability item is even more limited than advertised (1500) IE 1/1200 sold vs 1/1500 produced. This is a good way of covering any units that need to be withheld. Many larger companies would opt to advertise how many they would sell instead of how many were actually produced, making your limited item less limited than advertised (1500) IE 1/1500 sold vs 1/1750 produced. 



#13419 csbaker-az  

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 03:01 AM

Not sure what the confusion is. The website always clearly says "x copies in existence" as in printed, ever, not what's being sold.  It's pretty clear that not all of them are sold from that alone.



#13420 csbaker-az  

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 03:14 AM

Good luck to all the Vita completionists that didn't do the $150 backer tier on the Muv Luv KS when that bad boy finally gets produced.  That thing is going to be so expensive and desirable on the aftermarket lmao.  The base game is going to have to be good enough for people that don't want to dish out a few hundred $. 

Maybe a bunch of them will take and dump their collections and lower prices for other titles people need backfilled :D



#13421 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5299 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 11:07 AM

Honestly, I never once thought the numbers LRG ever gave where for the amount shipped out or sold at release, as I always knew they held back inventory for other things. So when a game has a release number of 2000, I always assumed that was really 1700(give or take)actually being sold at the time.

 

As that number really doesn't mean much, as the overall number is still in the range, and I don't think anyone is basing a buying decisions on a few hundred qty difference. So was someone here a buyer at 2000, but at 1700, not so much? I really don't see an issue either way just more things to complain about in regards to LRG and how they run their business.



#13422 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   2020 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 03:18 PM

What I would be upset about is if they said there were only 1500 B&C Vita in existence and then revealed they actually produced 2000.  The overall production numbers are a big deal and lying about the number of copies in existence would break the foundation of the company.  Granted I don't care if they produce even 10,000 of a game, but if they report that only 10,000 exist, then only 10,000 should have been produced.   So nothing to complain about in this regard.  LRG appears to be doing what they stated from the beginning as far as production numbers go.

 

If anything it's just more food for thought on future sales for those that didn't understand because when they say 3000 copies are available of some Vita game, that means 10% are held out and only 2700 are on sale.  The AM batch may only be 1500 copies, and then of those 1500... they may have some pulled for bundles.  So individual basic copies will be much less than expected.


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#13423 theemadgamer   SILENCE! I keel you! CAGiversary!   1010 Posts   Joined 6.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 04:34 PM

LRG Trading Card Binder up for sale, includes a random card.

 

$9.99 + 5.50 shipping = $15.49



#13424 zlatour   Shredaholic CAGiversary!   1744 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 04:44 PM

LRG Trading Card Binder up for sale, includes a random card.

$9.99 + 5.50 shipping = $15.49


Lol why don't they just put the trading card into the binder for safe keeping instead of luring you into buying a card protector too...

#13425 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5299 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 04:45 PM

LRG Trading Card Binder up for sale, includes a random card.

 

$9.99 + 5.50 shipping = $15.49

Uh, so does this not come with the card sleeves I'm guessing? As in the description they recommend buying a card protector, which IMO defeats the purpose of buying this.

 

I understand the cost of the sleeves probably would put the cost higher, but that fact that your ordering an item to protect trading cards, but then you need to buy another item to protect it, seems a little silly to say the least. It's seems at .50 that should have just been included in the price Vs. telling the customer to buy it separate.

 

EDIT: So if the sleeves that are shown aren't included, that should be stated in the listing, and if they are included, can't the 1 card just be inserted and protected in that way?



#13426 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5557 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 04:49 PM

Uh, so does this not come with the card sleeves I'm guessing? As in the description they recommend buying a card protector, which IMO defeats the purpose of buying this.

 

I understand the cost of the sleeves probably would put the cost higher, but that fact that your ordering an item to protect trading cards, but then you need to buy another item to protect it, seems a little silly to say the least. It's seems at .50 that should have just been included in the price Vs. telling the customer to buy it separate.

 

EDIT: So if the sleeves that are shown aren't included, that should be stated in the listing, and if they are included, can't the 1 card just be inserted and protected in that way?

Pretty sure it comes with the pages to hold the cards as it specifically says it holds up to 80 cards but you're right that it's a little vague.



#13427 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5299 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 04:50 PM

Pretty sure it comes with the pages to hold the cards as it specifically says it holds up to 80 cards but you're right that it's a little vague.

That was my thinking when I first saw it, but then why have to buy a card protector?



#13428 elessar123  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 05:14 PM

I'm guessing they come with the standard floppy card holder, the 3x3 pages, but you can fit the individual card holders in them?


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#13429 WingsDJY   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3134 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 05:23 PM

That was my thinking when I first saw it, but then why have to buy a card protector?

I think they're implying that the card will be shipped loose from the binder. Maybe the binders are shrink-wrapped and they don't want to open them to insert the card?

 

I'm guessing they come with the standard floppy card holder, the 3x3 pages, but you can fit the individual card holders in them?

It's a 2x2 card binder


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#13430 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   2020 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 05:24 PM

That was my thinking when I first saw it, but then why have to buy a card protector?

Maybe the book comes sealed and they would have to break the factory seal to insert the card into the book?   That's all I can figure and seems quite likely.

 

 

Uh, so does this not come with the card sleeves I'm guessing?

 

It comes with pages, the book isn't spiral bound so it's likely they are permanently bound to the book.  It holds up to 80 cards which is likley 8 per page (4 front/ 4 back of page) it just has 10 pages in it.  Also note the 4 cards and the book is actually pretty small in dimensions.   I wonder if it's as tall as a PS4 case?  I'm sure someone will take a moment to measure the cards and get a good guess on the dimensions.  This might fit on game shelves (with PS4 games).  It definitely will fit sideways.

 

 

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 05:26 PM

Lol why don't they just put the trading card into the binder for safe keeping instead of luring you into buying a card protector too...

They love selling card condoms to the collectors.

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 05:29 PM

LRG Trading Card Binder up for sale, includes a random card.

 

$9.99 + 5.50 shipping = $15.49

now I can finally fully regress into being a 10yr old again. 


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#13433 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5299 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 05:32 PM

I figured it could be sealed, but still asking someone to buy a protector, when their already buying what is supposed to be for that, seems rather out of sorts.



#13434 WingsDJY   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3134 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 05:46 PM

I wonder if it's as tall as a PS4 case?  I'm sure someone will take a moment to measure the cards and get a good guess on the dimensions.  This might fit on game shelves (with PS4 games).  It definitely will fit sideways.

Here's a 4 pocket on Amazon. Dims are 8.4 x 7 x 0.9 inches

 

PS4 cases are 170 x 135 x 14mm (6.7 x 5.3 x 0.6 inches)


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#13435 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   22265 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 06:23 PM

now I can finally fully regress into being a 10yr old again. 

 

Can't wait until they release LRG pogs. 


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#13436 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   2020 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 06:47 PM

Here's a 4 pocket on Amazon. Dims are 8.4 x 7 x 0.9 inches

 

PS4 cases are 170 x 135 x 14mm (6.7 x 5.3 x 0.6 inches)

Nice detective work.  That'll make it easier for those that actually want this to see if it'll fit on their shelves.   For reference that's very close to Sega CD & Saturn Long Box height.


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#13437 Cagg  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 07:07 PM

"If you want to make sure that your card arrives safely and in great condition, make sure to add a trading card protector to your order."

 

 

 

Is this a joke? Sorry. It's not the buyer's job to ensure items arrive safely.



#13438 csbaker-az  

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 07:12 PM

Lol the games are stress enough.  Not going to get into the cards too.



#13439 ihadmail  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 08:56 PM

Speaking of the cards, I thought I saw a list of all of the cards that had currently been made but I cannot find it anywhere. Any idea on where this list could be or was I dreaming?

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 08:59 PM

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