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#11911 WingsDJY   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3015 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:21 PM

I think it's pretty hard to predict the secondary market.  Lili, on paper, is a bad investment for a reseller.  That said it's fairly low print and it seems the very low print games are the ones that tend to have the most value.  Sort of like Breach & Clear.   With so many collecting for Vita it really limits how many possible complete collections there can be so the price goes up while there is demand.  Similarly Retro City Rampage.  Only the Vita version gained alot of value and that's partly due to being super low print.  The PS4 version and the reprint haven't gained much at all.

To be fair, the PS4 RCR was well over $150 for quite some time. It was only after the reprint that it dropped in 'value'


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#11912 Dashey10  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:25 PM

So both Ys will have a reversible cover correct?


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#11913 Richard Kain   The Kaiser CAGiversary!   2357 Posts   Joined 10.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:25 PM

Lili, on paper, is a bad investment for a reseller.  That said it's fairly low print and it seems the very low print games are the ones that tend to have the most value.  Sort of like Breach & Clear.

 

Breach and Clear didn't have much re-sale value at all initially. Its second-hand price didn't start going up until later, after LRG had made a name for itself and some collectors started gunning for a complete collection. It was also a little-known game from an unknown developer. Lili is in a similar situation. As such, its value for short-term flippers is very poor. It might get a little bit of a boost from the reputation of LRG, and the interest of hard-core completionist collectors, but that's it. Flippers should avoid it if they know what's good for them.

 

Speculators are a different matter. As with Breach and Clear, its entirely possible that the long-term second-hand price of Lili will go up. A year from now, it could be worth a lot more. If the game is able to get more exposure, or gets a sequel, or the developer release another game that gets more attention, the circumstances will change. And these changes could drastically alter the long-term demand for a game with an extremely finite physical supply.

 

Again, all of this is moot to me, little more than an analytical exercise. I don't sell, I collect.



#11914 mrliquid   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   145 Posts   Joined 9.1 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:38 PM

Those scalpers are going to get burned. While Lili sold out quickly on LRG (largely thanks to scalpers) the game is not well known. Even with the very small stock, the demand for it second-hand isn't going to be anywhere near as high as Night Trap. The eBay flippers are not going to turn a very good profit from it.

 

You have to evaluate these things. It's not enough to just point at a recent release and expect similar results from every LRG game. Savvy flippers would have held off on a release like Lili. The ones who go in hard on a release like this are the ones who are just blindly following trends, and not putting any actual thought into individual releases. Even N++ is a better flipping opportunity, despite selling slower than Lili. It is actually from an established franchise with a decent amount of exposure and credibility.

 

I ordered a copy of Lili, but I'm a collector, not a flipper. I care more about the critical appraisal of the game as opposed to any resale value. I've never sold a game from my collection, and all of my acquired LRG titles will enjoy a permanent place on my shelf.

I agree 100%. My point was in response to "How the hell did the Lili Limited Edition sell out in 1 minute?"



#11915 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1959 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:46 PM

 

Again, all of this is moot to me, little more than an analytical exercise. I don't sell, I collect.

I'm pretty similar in that I'm not here to really speculate or resell.  It's kind of fun to think about this stuff.

 

I will sell stuff off when I feel like I'm done with it but it's been about three years since I've sold anything.  I've intended all year to start working through my vita collection and get rid of what I don't need (because I went digital) or don't want (because I didn't find it fun/memorable).


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#11916 mrliquid   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   145 Posts   Joined 9.1 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:46 PM

 

That Shadow Warrior 2 LRG variant is freaking dope. I skipped the Special Reserve release, but will definitely pick up the LRG one



#11917 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4147 Posts   Joined 7.7 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:51 PM

Will we get a notification for that? I missed strafe because I never saw a notification for it anywhere or a release date announcement. I was pretty annoying at that lol.

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#11918 Dashey10  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:55 PM

Will we get a notification for that? I missed strafe because I never saw a notification for it anywhere or a release date announcement. I was pretty annoying at that lol.

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It was mentioned on Twitter and in the mailing list.


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#11919 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4147 Posts   Joined 7.7 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:59 PM

It was mentioned on Twitter and in the mailing list.

Weird. I could see me missing Twitter, but I guess I never got that email. Haha

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#11920 addicted2games   游戏玩家为生活 !! CAGiversary!   3455 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:01 PM

I got my Wonderboy CE today and am very pleased with the shipping time and protection LRG used in shipping it. Thank you LRG. Look forward to getting my Night Trap CE soon.



#11921 GameOverGreggy   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   957 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:01 PM

The other game they're releasing Friday is Asdivine Hearts

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#11922 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5404 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:01 PM

 

 

That Shadow Warrior 2 LRG variant is freaking dope. I skipped the Special Reserve release, but will definitely pick up the LRG one

 

It's gonna be tough.  The Strafe variant sold out in like three minutes and that was poorly promoted and before this latest massive wave of interest.  



#11923 mrliquid   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   145 Posts   Joined 9.1 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:05 PM

It's gonna be tough.  The Strafe variant sold out in like three minutes and that was poorly promoted and before this latest massive wave of interest.  

Yep, and SW2 is a much much bigger title than Strafe. Is the run only going to be 1000 units again?

 

Hopefully they will have some at PAX...



#11924 SrDiesel49  

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:14 PM

Yep, and SW2 is a much much bigger title than Strafe. Is the run only going to be 1000 units again?

 

Hopefully they will have some at PAX...

according to their twitter seems like it will be only 1000


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#11925 Sigma   King of Strong Style CAGiversary!   2870 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:25 PM

 

 

That Shadow Warrior 2 LRG variant is freaking dope. I skipped the Special Reserve release, but will definitely pick up the LRG one

 

I agree this is awesome. I skipped the Special Reserve as well and hoped LRG would do a release for this so I am all in, if I can get it in time.....

 

Just got my copy of WonderBoy in the mail today, I am very happy with this release. Trying to decide if I want to open this copy or just download the digital copy on my Switch and play it there.


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#11926 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1959 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:27 PM

Looking at sold copies of Lili on ebay and the only two that have sold were the LE's for $79.99 and $85.00 before shipping costs each.   It'll be interesting to see how this ends up.

 

I'm glad Ys is next week.  I have enough stuff coming in September already including Ys VIII, Metroid RoS.. and also the 29th this month Yakzua Kiwami.

 

 

 

Just got my copy of WonderBoy in the mail today, I am very happy with this release. Trying to decide if I want to open this copy or just download the digital copy on my Switch and play it there.

I want it on Switch. I'm waiting to see if there ends up a physical Switch release as I'm not big on digital purchases on nintendo systems.


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#11927 Sigma   King of Strong Style CAGiversary!   2870 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:48 PM

Looking at sold copies of Lili on ebay and the only two that have sold were the LE's for $79.99 and $85.00 before shipping costs each.   It'll be interesting to see how this ends up.

 

I'm glad Ys is next week.  I have enough stuff coming in September already including Ys VIII, Metroid RoS.. and also the 29th this month Yakzua Kiwami.

 

 

I want it on Switch. I'm waiting to see if there ends up a physical Switch release as I'm not big on digital purchases on nintendo systems.

Same, I'll probably end up opening the LRG copy I just got though and play it. Only way I think we will see a physical Switch release for it is if LRG can get something set up with Nintendo to do Switch stuff. 

 

I also am picking up every game you mentioned here as well along with a few others.


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#11928 SrDiesel49  

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:54 PM

Breach and Clear didn't have much re-sale value at all initially. Its second-hand price didn't start going up until later, after LRG had made a name for itself and some collectors started gunning for a complete collection. It was also a little-known game from an unknown developer. Lili is in a similar situation. As such, its value for short-term flippers is very poor. It might get a little bit of a boost from the reputation of LRG, and the interest of hard-core completionist collectors, but that's it. Flippers should avoid it if they know what's good for them.

 

Speculators are a different matter. As with Breach and Clear, its entirely possible that the long-term second-hand price of Lili will go up. A year from now, it could be worth a lot more. If the game is able to get more exposure, or gets a sequel, or the developer release another game that gets more attention, the circumstances will change. And these changes could drastically alter the long-term demand for a game with an extremely finite physical supply.

 

Again, all of this is moot to me, little more than an analytical exercise. I don't sell, I collect.

 

 

To be fair, the PS4 RCR was well over $150 for quite some time. It was only after the reprint that it dropped in 'value'

Ya secondary market especially when its such a limited number like the CE at 1900 can be tough to judge, why I dont care to get much into if scalping is right or wrong; 40 dollars isnt that bad of a risk for scalpers at worse they turn around drop it to just above MSRP and break even after fees; now if the invest were say 100 or more and theres a chance the secondary even rejects the MSRP price then scalpers have a big issue and thats when real risk for them becomes involved but at 40 they could give a damn. 


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#11929 MikeKeese  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:56 PM

I haven't really followed this thread much. I assume shipping is super delayed at this point? Just got confirmation for night trap but still have yet to receive anything regarding oceanhorn or plague road. My order for bards gold also still reads unfulfilled despite receiving it weeks ago.

Have most people received games in a similar manor recently?

#11930 SrDiesel49  

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:02 PM

2nd batches of lili, lili ce and n++ are live

 

edit: CE is gone again.


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#11931 Dashey10  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:02 PM

Lili CE already sold out

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#11932 mrliquid   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   145 Posts   Joined 9.1 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:17 PM

This does not bode well for Y's....

 

Edit: It is oddly strange that we havent had a single person complaining about not getting a copy of the CE even though it sold out in a minute again.

 

No one here wanted one but didnt get it due to it selling out almost immediately?



#11933 nitrosmob   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   7807 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:27 PM

Lili just doesn't look too great as a game....pass. Also passing on Kemco RPG #23....that's reserved for bundle hell or mobile phones.



#11934 Donnums   Great Scott! CAGiversary!   566 Posts   Joined 10.5 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:31 PM

I agree this is awesome. I skipped the Special Reserve as well and hoped LRG would do a release for this so I am all in, if I can get it in time.....

 

Just got my copy of WonderBoy in the mail today, I am very happy with this release. Trying to decide if I want to open this copy or just download the digital copy on my Switch and play it there.

Just a reference - I pre-ordered the set for SRG way back in May. They haven't said shit about it being shipped so far, other than they've had production issues that's out of their hands and don't have an ETA yet. So this may be your best shot to get this with LRG.

 

 

 

EDIT - Scratch that, I don't have Facebook...but SRG's page shows they're just now shipping those sets out.



#11935 Josef   Touched the dead CAGiversary!   10323 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:32 PM

This does not bode well for Y's....

 

Edit: It is oddly strange that we havent had a single person complaining about not getting a copy of the CE even though it sold out in a minute again.

 

No one here wanted one but didnt get it due to it selling out almost immediately?

I would have complained if I didn't get one ;)  Luckily I snagged one at 10am.  Didn't realize it would sell out so fast though.  Figured it would last 5 to 10 minutes each round.



#11936 SrDiesel49  

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:35 PM

Tweet from LRG only 70 copies of regular Lili Left. 


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#11937 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5404 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:36 PM

This does not bode well for Y's....

 

Edit: It is oddly strange that we havent had a single person complaining about not getting a copy of the CE even though it sold out in a minute again.

 

No one here wanted one but didnt get it due to it selling out almost immediately?

Yes, I am starting to get nervous about Ys, especially with both Vita and PS4 versions and a CE.  I hope the quantity is greater than NT or WB, but somehow I doubt it.  I hope the preorder cuts demand a bit on the sale day, but I suspect many collectors will just buy every version and that scalpers will still go for the CE.  



#11938 Midori Monkey   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   669 Posts   Joined 8.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:38 PM

This does not bode well for Y's....

 

Edit: It is oddly strange that we havent had a single person complaining about not getting a copy of the CE even though it sold out in a minute again.

 

No one here wanted one but didnt get it due to it selling out almost immediately?

I just wanted the standard.  Even tho I love slipcovers, it just didn't seem worth it.  I have to admit, I began to second guess myself before I ordered during the evening batch, and relooked at it to make sure I wasn't missing anything about it lol.

 

Now the Ys CE.  That I want.  I'm super worried tho if this only lasted 30 seconds :(


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#11939 Jawwaad1   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   814 Posts   Joined 5.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:43 PM

Yes, I am starting to get nervous about Ys, especially with both Vita and PS4 versions and a CE. I hope the quantity is greater than NT or WB, but somehow I doubt it. I hope the preorder cuts demand a bit on the sale day, but I suspect many collectors will just buy every version and that scalpers will still go for the CE.

YS is a highly anticipated game so best believe print runs will be low, PayPal orders will freeze up for many like the past 2 releases of highly anticipated games (WB and Night Trap) and Chris from eBay will have 4 copies of every game up for resell within minutes of release. This is starting to be the trend with LRG releases.

#11940 DS9   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   335 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 18 August 2017 - 11:13 PM

Lili just doesn't look too great as a game....pass. Also passing on Kemco RPG #23....that's reserved for bundle hell or mobile phones.

Lili is a shit mobile port game, anything that is on mobile that comes to consoles are shit IMO. I think this applies to Oceanhorn too but I could be wrong and it got ported to mobile after.