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While You Buy Your Shiny New Guns to Protect Yourself, Make Sure You Take Precautions


#1 detectiveconan16   Delicious! CAGiversary!   7124 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

detectiveconan16

Posted 15 June 2016 - 10:47 AM

Because the consequences are very serious. http://www.motherjon...ence-in-america

 

People rarely get killed in mass shootings, but accidents are a dime a dozen. While you find the best deals on guns, I hope you use the savings for that one day you won't have to go to the hospital for a gunshot wound.



#2 slidecage   Nothing to say CAGiversary!   29326 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 15 June 2016 - 11:09 AM

99.9% of people who  own guns have no clue how to even handle them... They dont respect the gun



#3 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2506 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

Posted 15 June 2016 - 08:58 PM

Just like car safety people like to remind us that a collision is rarely an accident, it's usually a negligent action, the same holds true for gunfire. A lot of folks will call it an accidental discharge, but to people who do have a great track record with firearms, and do handle them with the safety they demand, they call it a negligent discharge, which is far more accurate. 

 

I'm not a big fan of gun to ____________ analogies because the fundamental purposes of a gun are fairly unique, but with the number of deaths and injuries in ladder falls, maybe certain height ladders shouldn't be sold, and people should clean their own gutters, or get to own an aluminum ladder, only fiberglass.  

 

Anyway, idiots and guns have gone together for a long time, but like most things, it's the day to day actions of the vast majority that go unnoticed. 

 

I wish people quit using weapons for crimes, and were safer with them to reduce negligent incidents.



#4 Darby27   Licensed to Dill CAGiversary!   13592 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 17 June 2016 - 08:42 PM

So the story they told there was someone accidentally shot that woman and her fiancé?



#5 detectiveconan16   Delicious! CAGiversary!   7124 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 11:41 AM

God bless these freedom fighters: http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.2682095



#6 Syntax Error   Art School Dropout CAGiversary!   10957 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 07:46 PM

99.9% of people who  own guns have no clue how to even handle them... They dont respect the gun

That's okay though.  Guns don't kill people, people kill people.  So, provided I don't kill anyone I don't have to worry about my gun doing it for me :D/ :twoguns: :D/



#7 Jackinit   Superlative detritus CAGiversary!   29 Posts   Joined 2.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 July 2016 - 04:47 PM

God bless these freedom fighters: http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.2682095

Is that a serious remark?

 

Just like car safety people like to remind us that a collision is rarely an accident, it's usually a negligent action, the same holds true for gunfire. A lot of folks will call it an accidental discharge, but to people who do have a great track record with firearms, and do handle them with the safety they demand, they call it a negligent discharge, which is far more accurate. 

 

I'm not a big fan of gun to ____________ analogies because the fundamental purposes of a gun are fairly unique, but with the number of deaths and injuries in ladder falls, maybe certain height ladders shouldn't be sold, and people should clean their own gutters, or get to own an aluminum ladder, only fiberglass.  

 

Anyway, idiots and guns have gone together for a long time, but like most things, it's the day to day actions of the vast majority that go unnoticed. 

 

I wish people quit using weapons for crimes, and were safer with them to reduce negligent incidents.

The purpose of a gun is not really that unique. It is a tool that is most often used for hunting, much like a bow and arrow or (for the braver souls) bowie knives. Your analogy with a ladder is particularly erroneous, because no part of the ladder's function is explicitly intended to kill. And please, don't bother to make the argument that guns are not necessarily intended to kill.

 

I am not anti-gun, but it's so generic seeing people (not just you) complain about how other people are not responsible, and this is the main cause of gun-related accidents. It's like if the answer was that simple, then why aren't more people advocating for gun education or stricter regulation? Instead, people make it an all or nothing situation, to where if there's any regulation, it's an imposition on our freedoms, or if there is any presence of guns, it is a threat to our safety. We need more moderates willing to consider the details, not generic, half-hearted  generalizations. It's like everyone "knows" this is the problem, but all they really want to do is complain about it and make it easier to blame the unpredictability of human nature.

 

I agree that 99% of gun-related "accidents" are the cause of negligence. But that is totally separate from guns being used intentionally in crime. If a person has the intent to kill another, they'll do it whether they are using a gun, knife, whatever. Guns make the task infinitely easier, though, by allowing a person to kill from a distance, which in many senses requires much less commitment to the task than say stabbing someone.

 

Also, the idea that most people who own a gun don't know how to use them is pretty dumb. I live in the South, and by extension, I live near a LOT of under-educated, close-minded people. But one thing 90% of people here know how to do is handle a gun. Ironically, the fact that guns are much more prevalent around here makes their safety a more prominent concern (I actually took a hunter's safety course as an elective credit towards my associate's, which I didn't even initially think possible).



#8 Mrclark2  

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Posted 10 November 2016 - 01:10 AM

Switzerland has some of the lowest gun related crime, and gun related injuries for over a decade in the world. Yet they have mandatory gun ownership and citizens are provided guns and ammo.

http://www.bbc.com/n...gazine-21379912

So the problem isn't with guns. They are an inanimate object.

The problem with accidental shootings is because no one is trained properly. Our society doesn't treat anyone respect or show respect, we don't teach people to be smarter or responsible either. We blow everything off and blame the boogeyman when something bad happens.

The problem with gun related crime is our shitty society. Because while Switzerland has high gun ownership they also have some of the highest European employment rates, excellent health care, great education systems, and overall very happy citizens. The fact the country is so well run and maintained (Jesus they even brought down a defunct satellite they owned so it didn't create space trash) that the people don't resort to gun violence much, if at all.

Our society though treats people like shit and they in turn treat eachother like shit and the answer to when the guns come out? Gun control. Not trying to make our society better like it should be.

So you want to see gun related crime and accidents decrease? Make our society better, but no one wants to do that because it takes an open mind and effort. All we want to do is eat cheese burgers, get on social media, and sit on our asses trying to figure out which emojis best suit our hatred for what one person said we don't even know on their Facebook profile that lives 2000 miles away.