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Indie/Limited/Obscure Physical Release Deals and Discussion Thread


#3751 NiiNJA   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   402 Posts   Joined 6.1 Years Ago  

Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:30 PM

I'm gonna start one, get a minimum print and get games officially on the Sony/Nintendo release database, then destroy all copies on arrival, and just screw up everybody's collections forever so we can stop this once and for all. Prioritizing new consoles the first week they come out before anyone has time to get invested.

 

It will pay for itself from all the lrg and metal jesus types and their followers generating traffic to my YouTube to leave nasty comments to my fire pit videos ruining collecting for everybody.

 

Scorched Earth mother fuckers.

If you had the bankroll to pull this off I wouldn't put it past you.



#3752 falsedichotomies  

falsedichotomies

Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:49 PM

We're basically going back to 80s computer days when any idiots with some capital and a game made in a basement by one or two dudes could get a print done.

 

There's a reason no one goes for full Commodore sets.



#3753 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5822 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:59 PM

We're basically going back to 80s computer days when any idiots with some capital and a game made in a basement by one or two dudes could get a print done.

 

There's a reason no one goes for full Commodore sets.

It's not really that bad.  Special Reserve hasn't released anything in months.  Limited Run seems to be slowing down and these new entrants seem to be following the one game per month model.  



#3754 WingsDJY   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3331 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:21 AM

When did they get butthurt about it?

There’s some side eye going on with the original tweet. Plus they didn’t seem convinced when LRG explained that the paid ad predated Super Rare even existing. Perhaps butthurt was too strong. Definite shade though

#3755 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:37 AM

I've done a 180 on my feelings about this limited release craze.

A year or year and a half ago I was: "Yeah, all of these games getting physical releases!"

Now I'm: "Oh my God, no, another one of these companies. Oh, yeah, a $20 markup over digital (counting shipping) is wonderful. Three cover variants and one only in a shitty CE I don't want? That's just fantastic. Oh, mine came with creased cover art? Well, I guess it's off to eBay to try for a mint one. LRG is releasing 12 games this month (counting PS4/vita), ffs. Yeah, I don't need extra spending money for other pursuits of happiness, or other gaming priorities."

The limited game craze has me looking forward to the death of physical game media. I have a collection of 2,000 games, and I have been collecting for many years. And yet, it was this trend that somehow pushed it over the edge of not being fun anymore. It's funny, really; I guess there was a line.

#3756 bradbo   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   858 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 01:03 AM

I’d rather buy a new release or two. Gaming time has reached a premium and I just can’t realistically say I’ll ever play most of these. Even if, there’s not much of a gamble to buy these from resellers at this point.

#3757 Modus Pwnens   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   158 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Modus Pwnens

Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:56 AM

And we also have these dumb UK companies starting to go for exclusives on NA/ESRB releases (Rice.co and now Sig Ed Games, etc). Stick to your region jerkbags. UK only company has no business hoarding ESRB/NA exclusives other than to be complete dicks.


Wait, what's this?

#3758 AugustAPC   Not For Sale CAGiversary!   3476 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:54 AM

I've done a 180 on my feelings about this limited release craze.

A year or year and a half ago I was: "Yeah, all of these games getting physical releases!"

Now I'm: "Oh my God, no, another one of these companies. Oh, yeah, a $20 markup over digital (counting shipping) is wonderful. Three cover variants and one only in a shitty CE I don't want? That's just fantastic. Oh, mine came with creased cover art? Well, I guess it's off to eBay to try for a mint one. LRG is releasing 12 games this month (counting PS4/vita), ffs. Yeah, I don't need extra spending money for other pursuits of happiness, or other gaming priorities."

The limited game craze has me looking forward to the death of physical game media. I have a collection of 2,000 games, and I have been collecting for many years. And yet, it was this trend that somehow pushed it over the edge of not being fun anymore. It's funny, really; I guess there was a line.

 

There's multiple answers to your dilemma. Stop collecting. Or just stop collecting the games you don't want. Or sell off your sh*t and be done with it, entirely. Wanting physical media to die just because you can't have every game and have them in perfect condition sounds ridiculous, to me, but whatever

 

This market is quickly becoming over saturated. Many of these companies are seeing their games stay in stock for months. Aside from LRG titles, games are not selling out unless they're printed in extremely limited quantities(500-1,000). Strictly Limited Game's first title, Tokyo 42, is still in stock months later, and it had a print of 2,600.

 

While I agree that this trend is being exploited, and I would like to see far less releases, per month, I'll never want physical media to die. It's significance goes far beyond "collector's OCD".



#3759 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:58 AM

There's multiple answers to your dilemma. Stop collecting. Or just stop collecting the games you don't want. Wanting physical media to die just because you can't have every game and have them in perfect condition sounds ridiculous, to me, but whatever.

I mean, I could write out a lengthy diatribe as a response. But I know that you're a fairly reasonable person, and I'm quite sure that you wouldn't be so reductive as to turn my sentiment into those two notions without context and without the rest of the thought process.

Look at all of the time we just saved each other. ;)

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#3760 AugustAPC   Not For Sale CAGiversary!   3476 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:11 AM

I mean, I could write out a lengthy diatribe as a response. But I know that you're a fairly reasonable person, and I'm quite sure that you wouldn't be so reductive as to turn my sentiment into those two notions without context and without the rest of the thought process.

Look at all of the time we just saved each other. ;)

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I have a habit of posting before I'm completely done with what I wanted to say and using the edit button to finish. Regardless, I just don't see the logic in wanting physical media to die because you can't afford everything.



#3761 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:15 AM

I have a habit of posting before I'm completely done with what I wanted to say and using the edit button to finish. Regardless, I just don't see the logic in wanting physical media to die because you can't afford everything.

You're still reducing things to the point that the initial sentiment is basically not even present. I would also agree that wanting physical media to die because I, or anyone else, cannot afford everything would be dumb.

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#3762 AugustAPC   Not For Sale CAGiversary!   3476 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:19 AM

You're still reducing things to the point that the initial sentiment is basically not even present. I would also agree that wanting physical media to die because I, or anyone else, cannot afford everything would be dumb.

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The initial sentiment being the enjoyment of collecting?



#3763 Squeegor 2  

Squeegor 2

Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:54 AM

I'll be starting up "Possibly Non-existent Games" later this year. Please look forward to it.


- As the name implies, the titles released may not even exist.

- The exact print run will be classified. Just because. There may even be cover variants, but you'll never know.

- You cannot even place an order on our website. The extremely limited quantities, if any, will be distributed to random game shops across the US. Even if they didn't want to sell it.

- ...or not, because there's a chance the print run was 0 for that release. This adds to the mystery and mystique, and increases the mental orgasm if you do run across a copy in the wild.

- The games will be utter shite but you'll want them anyway because they're extremely rare and owning something others can't have makes you feel better about your sad existence.

- If you are lucky enough to get a copy, congratulations, you'll be able to place it on your shelf full of other unopened games you'll never play and raise your virgin lifestyle to the next level.

#3764 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6385 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

chrislaustin

Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:22 PM

While I agree that this trend is being exploited, and I would like to see far less releases, per month, I'll never want physical media to die. It's significance goes far beyond "collector's OCD".

Honestly, I look at it all as choices & options, more so than being exploited. I completely agree I could do with far less options each month, but it gives the market more possible games to play and enjoy. My son games way more than me now, and I think even when I was his age, I didn't game as much, mostly do to the options of the time, funds, etc. Some games we like together, while he plays games I can't stand, and I play games he can't stand. How would it be if only his games got produced? Or just mine?

 

Growing up there where systems and games I couldn't afford, but 20 years later, I was glad those games existed. As I was able to buy them now, thanks to the fact there was a physical option. Even though my son has tons of games, there are many he doesn't get, and maybe 10-20 years from now, he may decide, oh, I want that game now. Then it's a good chance the game will be lost to the ages at that point.

 

I also completely understand the "business" side of why LRG decided to start offering less titles. Their mindset of less is better has it's place, as I agree there is to many options, and each one is now cutting in to the other market wise. But that likes saying, why is Capcom still making games, when Sega is to. Well maybe I don't like Sega, and prefer Capcom. Or maybe they both suck, and I want option 3, 4 or 5?

 

At the end of the day, I thought LRG was about the "preservation" of these titles, and if that was most important, each game should have an equal chance to be produced. When I shop at the grocery store, I'm blown away by the fact there are 50 forms of chicken nuggets in the freezer section, but guess what, each brand sells to someone, otherwise it wouldn't be stocked. So yeah, maybe some games don't need a few thousand copies, maybe a few hundred would do, but at least the game would be preserved, and I think that's the best part of all the physical releases. Just because I think it may be to much, doesn't mean someone else will.

 

By these "limited" places offering only certain or select titles, they become the exact same thing their trying to stop, and that's physical games no longer being offered. "N" at one point in time offered every game physically, now they pick and choose what may get physical and in what regions(as do many developers now). These limited game stops are saying this title doesn't get a chance, because this title is better and has more fans, how is that any different than "N" saying Rhythm Heaven doesn't get physical in the states, because it's not selling Mario Kart numbers? Seems rather hypocritical to me.



#3765 Josef   Touched the dead CAGiversary!   11377 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:56 PM

Honestly, I look at it all as choices & options, more so than being exploited. I completely agree I could do with far less options each month, but it gives the market more possible games to play and enjoy. My son games way more than me now, and I think even when I was his age, I didn't game as much, mostly do to the options of the time, funds, etc. Some games we like together, while he plays games I can't stand, and I play games he can't stand. How would it be if only his games got produced? Or just mine?

 

Growing up there where systems and games I couldn't afford, but 20 years later, I was glad those games existed. As I was able to buy them now, thanks to the fact there was a physical option. Even though my son has tons of games, there are many he doesn't get, and maybe 10-20 years from now, he may decide, oh, I want that game now. Then it's a good chance the game will be lost to the ages at that point.

 

I also completely understand the "business" side of why LRG decided to start offering less titles. Their mindset of less is better has it's place, as I agree there is to many options, and each one is now cutting in to the other market wise. But that likes saying, why is Capcom still making games, when Sega is to. Well maybe I don't like Sega, and prefer Capcom. Or maybe they both suck, and I want option 3, 4 or 5?

 

At the end of the day, I thought LRG was about the "preservation" of these titles, and if that was most important, each game should have an equal chance to be produced. When I shop at the grocery store, I'm blown away by the fact there are 50 forms of chicken nuggets in the freezer section, but guess what, each brand sells to someone, otherwise it wouldn't be stocked. So yeah, maybe some games don't need a few thousand copies, maybe a few hundred would do, but at least the game would be preserved, and I think that's the best part of all the physical releases. Just because I think it may be to much, doesn't mean someone else will.

 

By these "limited" places offering only certain or select titles, they become the exact same thing their trying to stop, and that's physical games no longer being offered. "N" at one point in time offered every game physically, now they pick and choose what may get physical and in what regions(as do many developers now). These limited game stops are saying this title doesn't get a chance, because this title is better and has more fans, how is that any different than "N" saying Rhythm Heaven doesn't get physical in the states, because it's not selling Mario Kart numbers? Seems rather hypocritical to me.

LRG wants quick sellouts and the best way to have a quick sellout is to sell to a group that will buy anything they put out - i.e. the full set collector.  As more and more games were released by LRG the full set collectors slowly started to drop out.  No longer were games taking mere minutes to sell out - they were now taking days and weekends.  I am willing to bet that LRG still has a decent amount of full set collectors among their customer base.  Obviously not as many as they used to have, but still a good chunk.  By cutting down on their release schedule they are allowing what remains of the full set collectors to stay in the game and by increasing the quality of their releases they are ensuring solid sales to everyone else.

 

Alternatively they can ramp up the release schedule again and scare off the remaining full set collectors they have left.  Sure, games will still eventually sell out but it may take weeks or months instead of hours and days.  I think LRG would prefer the quick sellouts as opposed to sitting on inventory for an unknown period of time.



#3766 jedex   Elite Chemist CAGiversary!   795 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:03 PM

LRG wants quick sellouts and the best way to have a quick sellout is to sell to a group that will buy anything they put out - i.e. the full set collector. As more and more games were released by LRG the full set collectors slowly started to drop out. No longer were games taking mere minutes to sell out - they were now taking days and weekends. I am willing to bet that LRG still has a decent amount of full set collectors among their customer base. Obviously not as many as they used to have, but still a good chunk. By cutting down on their release schedule they are allowing what remains of the full set collectors to stay in the game and by increasing the quality of their releases they are ensuring solid sales to everyone else.

Alternatively they can ramp up the release schedule again and scare off the remaining full set collectors they have left. Sure, games will still eventually sell out but it may take weeks or months instead of hours and days. I think LRG would prefer the quick sellouts as opposed to sitting on inventory for an unknown period of time.

I was a full set collector until this year. They had about 11 separate games in January and that did it for me. I no longer buy ps4 games from them if it's offered on the vita.

#3767 ihadmail   Banned Banned   1038 Posts   Joined 1.1 Years Ago  

ihadmail

Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:08 PM

 I think LRG would prefer the quick sellouts as opposed to sitting on inventory for an unknown period of time.

Unless it took longer than a month to sell out, LRG would still NOT be sitting on any inventory typically. 



#3768 Josef   Touched the dead CAGiversary!   11377 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:15 PM

Unless it took longer than a month to sell out, LRG would still NOT be sitting on any inventory typically. 

True, as everything seems to be a preorder now.



#3769 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6385 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

chrislaustin

Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:15 PM

Alternatively they can ramp up the release schedule again and scare off the remaining full set collectors they have left.  Sure, games will still eventually sell out but it may take weeks or months instead of hours and days.  I think LRG would prefer the quick sellouts as opposed to sitting on inventory for an unknown period of time.

I was always under the impression that a LRG lasting a few days to a week was the sweet spot they where trying for from the start. Enough time for everyone who wants a copy to get it, but not long enough to become an inventory issue long term. I honestly think the Ebay pricing now for most titles reflects that, as the games aren't worth much over retail, which means the games are getting to the fans who want them.

 

We also no longer really have the pissing and moaning of games being gone in seconds. Yeah, a few titles still do, but the afternoon offerings, are still pretty good in that regard as well. And they have still been having tons of releases, as the slow down really hasn't started yet. 

 

I was a full set collector until this year. They had about 11 separate games in January and that did it for me. I no longer buy ps4 games from them if it's offered on the vita.

Yeah, I stopped getting CE awhile back, as I realized most of the contents really aren't to my liking. The only standard release I passed on so far was Mecho Tales, as the game just looked really bad. But it also sold out, and is now out there for the masses, so good, bad or ugly it's no preserved for the ages. Which even though I thought it looked bad, others may have found enjoyment, so I'm glad it was offered.



#3770 ihadmail   Banned Banned   1038 Posts   Joined 1.1 Years Ago  

ihadmail

Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:35 PM

Has anyone gotten shipping info for their 99Vidas release? They advertised shipping would begin within 2-3 weeks and it's been that 3 weeks.



#3771 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6385 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

chrislaustin

Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:58 PM

Well, since we have been discussing to many limited releases, here is another for you guys. LOL

 

Defenders of Ekron a limited to 1500 shooter by Play-Asia for PS4. Sign ups are now open.

 

https://www.play-asi..._eid=d717133e21



#3772 skiizim   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9864 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:59 PM

Has anyone gotten shipping info for their 99Vidas release? They advertised shipping would begin within 2-3 weeks and it's been that 3 weeks.

I just got shipping notice this morning.



#3773 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6385 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

chrislaustin

Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:01 PM

I just got shipping notice this morning.

Holy Hell, a company that actually gave an accurate shipping time frame............Not possible. LOL



#3774 Vigilante   The Deal Is Already Dead CAGiversary!   36573 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:15 PM

Well, since we have been discussing to many limited releases, here is another for you guys. LOL

 

Defenders of Ekron a limited to 1500 shooter by Play-Asia for PS4. Sign ups are now open.

 

https://www.play-asi..._eid=d717133e21

That doesn't look too bad, actually, plus I always support adding in a platinum trophy where there wasn't one before.



#3775 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6385 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

chrislaustin

Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:30 PM

That doesn't look too bad, actually, plus I always support adding in a platinum trophy where there wasn't one before.

I just watched the video, and yeah, it looks pretty cool. When I looked at the static pics, it looked like a standard bullet hell shooter, but having seen it in motion, it seems to be more than that. Still looks hard as hell, but it gives me an Einhander type vibe, as your ship has many different functions than just the base option.



#3776 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:50 PM

Well, since we have been discussing to many limited releases, here is another for you guys. LOL

 

Defenders of Ekron a limited to 1500 shooter by Play-Asia for PS4. Sign ups are now open.

 

https://www.play-asi..._eid=d717133e21

This game actually looks pretty freaking awesome. Then again, I have an extreme soft spot for shmups, and I was conditioned to be okay with paying $60 - $100 for them with all of the imports last gen lol.



#3777 AugustAPC   Not For Sale CAGiversary!   3476 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:54 PM

Defenders of Ekron looks pretty fuckin' sweet to me. Looks like it has a lot of variety, which isn't that common in schmups. I signed up.



#3778 reaperztoll   Banned Banned   3366 Posts   Joined 4.6 Years Ago  

reaperztoll

Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:55 PM

I'm gonna start one, get a minimum print and get games officially on the Sony/Nintendo release database, then destroy all copies on arrival, and just screw up everybody's collections forever so we can stop this once and for all. Prioritizing new consoles the first week they come out before anyone has time to get invested.

 

It will pay for itself from all the lrg and metal jesus types and their followers generating traffic to my YouTube to leave nasty comments to my fire pit videos ruining collecting for everybody.

 

Scorched Earth mother fuckers.

Buy some shit indie title for a pittance that's already been certified and you could probably get away with the whole thing pretty cheaply. 



#3779 Jurai  

Posted 22 February 2018 - 07:02 PM

I wish LRG had gotten to the punch on switch sooner, so many games getting dropped by random groups now

#3780 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6385 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

chrislaustin

Posted 22 February 2018 - 07:30 PM

I wish LRG had gotten to the punch on switch sooner, so many games getting dropped by random groups now

Well, in their defense, they did try pretty much from the start, and it took "N" this long to play ball.