PS4 Pro Preorders up

Annoyed it doesn't include a 4K Blu Ray player, but I probably won't have a 4K display until late next year at the earliest.

Gotta wonder if there will be any sales for it on it for Black Friday. I doubt it but I will probably wait after launch to see what happens.

 
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Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed to. Went from a first day buy to probably won't buy at all.

 
until they put in bigger hard drives and allow externals they can suck it

or until my ps4 catches on fire

whichever happens first

 
.Beowulf said:
until they put in bigger hard drives and allow externals they can suck it

or until my ps4 catches on fire

whichever happens first
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I can't believe they put a 1TB in the PRO model when the Xbox One S 2TB has double that and 4K bluray support.

Sony really dropped the ball on this. I even had the money saved up to preorder this but after watching that I was just like "wow".

The console looks terrible to boot.
 
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Komentra said:
I can't believe they put a 1TB in the PRO model when the Xbox One S 2TB has double that and 4K bluray support.

Sony really dropped the ball on this. I even had the money saved up to preorder this but after watching that I was just like "wow".

The console looks terrible to boot.
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that's all I need is another internal put into an external case and left on a shelf because consoles once again give us a small hard drive

how about save us the money and don't put one in at all since we have to use an old one or buy a new one anyway

 
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as someone that recently bought a ps4 right before it was announced/rumored I am pretty glad it's not impressive from a purely selfish no longer bummed point of view

 
I'm gonna pre-order it on Amazon just incase it sells out but my mouse will be hovering over that cancel button until I see raw gameplay. Right now I'm going on the notion that FFXV might be 60fps, that's the only thing keeping my hype.

 
I don't really think we'll need to preorder... probably another Wii U supply, still on store shelves at launch.
 
The only reason I can think of as to why only 1 TB and no 4K Blu-ray is that it would have increased the price to $500 or more, and that would have put people off even more vs. the lack of those things.  Sticker shock vs. features you can reveal later.

I mean it's releasing around the same time as PS VR, so consumers could be dropping nearly $1000 in such a small timeframe.

I also agree that the design is unappealing.

 
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I've got a pre-order in the for Gears of War Xbox one S console and it's fully paid off. I've got enough in Dell advantage rewards I was planning on grabbing a PS4 Pro once they list them but yeah, totally underwhelmed. I'd rather have had it cost another $100 and have it support 4k blu ray and have some more muscle under the hood.

I might just buy a mid range 4k TV now and wait the Pro out until it's first price drop. I haven't had the latest Microsoft offering since I got a 360 before my PS3 back in 2006. I feel vaguely uncomfortable about this turn of events.

 
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System is so ugly looks like a Big Mac. No UHD Blu Ray only 1TB and games have to play the same on all units so wtf is the point other than 4K up scaled games?
 
they should have included a 500gig hd instead like they loved to do for so long so I could watch a beautiful meltdown of the internet

 
That new tweet from Larry promoting the xbox one S was definitely an blow to the Pro.

"Want 4k Streaming & Blu-ray + Hdr Gaming?"

 
bonesawisready said:
System is so ugly looks like a Big Mac. No UHD Blu Ray only 1TB and games have to play the same on all units so wtf is the point other than 4K up scaled games?
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I'm not too big on sony but no one has seemed to mention that it has a 4.20 Tflop video card. That should open up double the performance on future games (unless they just dedicate all the extra power to VR which is a possibility).

 
So how much power does this thing have. Someone in this thread wrote 4.2 teraflops and if that's true then that means the Xbox Scorpio will have a 50% gpu advantage at 6 teraflops at least. If so isn't that almost the same power difference between the ps4 and one right now.
 
Umm... yeah... I'm not very impressed... 

There's no talk of like guaranteed 60FPS at the very least... 4k is nice but running at 30FPS is a joke...

Also 4k resolution is one thing... what about the settings it's running in? low/med/high/ultra?  we need answers

 
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And lets be honest that neither system has done an amazing job in that category either. Many more misses than hits on the exclusives front.
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What exclusives has the Xone had other than Sunset Overdrive, Horizon 2, Halo 5, and Rare Replay?

 
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not even going to bother with this, may update to the slim for 5ghz wifi if theres a good trade deal for my current ps4 though

 
Mcast said:
So how much power does this thing have. Someone in this thread wrote 4.2 teraflops and if that's true then that means the Xbox Scorpio will have a 50% gpu advantage at 6 teraflops at least. If so isn't that almost the same power difference between the ps4 and one right now.
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ps4 doen't have a 50% gpu advantage now. PS4 is at 1.84 Tflops and xbox one at 1.75 Tflops.

Going from 4.2 to 6 tflops is going to be a much more noticeable difference then xbone ps4.

 
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And lets be honest that neither system has done an amazing job in that category either. Many more misses than hits on the exclusives front.
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While true, this generation is taking a while to really kick-off, I'm still waiting for a system seller to appear from M$. I sat on buying a 360 until GoW came along and sold me. There is nothing on the table from them that has me even remotely interested. Meanwhile I'm pretty stoked for Horizon Zero Dawn and lukewarm about Days Gone.

 
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Mcast said:
So how much power does this thing have. Someone in this thread wrote 4.2 teraflops and if that's true then that means the Xbox Scorpio will have a 50% gpu advantage at 6 teraflops at least. If so isn't that almost the same power difference between the ps4 and one right now.
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No. The 50% advantage the PS4 has is in overall power (CPU, GPU, RAM). The Pro apparently is going with a similar CPU that the current PS4 has, just OC'd and the same amount of RAM (based on the rumored specs). Nobody really knows what the Scorpio will have outside of the advertised 6 teraflops. Assuming Microsoft upgrades more than just the GPU, the difference between it and the Pro will be much more noticeable than the difference between the Xbox One and PS4.

 
Wow, I was ready to upgrade to the newer model, but Sony actually talked itself out of a sale with today's reveal.

I see no actual reason to upgrade, unless I get a 4K TV (which I won't until they start dropping to an acceptable price late next year).

 
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playstation should respond with

"want to see what an actual sale on digital games looks like?"
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I think both systems ultimately cost the same. The PS4 has a higher up front cost with fewer sales on the console while xbox ones are down to $200 for 1TB almost every week now. The Xbox One software sales are lesser quality usually to make up for it, but BC and GwG gives one 4 free games per month instead of PS Plus' 2 games a month, unless you own another PS system, which that cost should be factored in as well. I think they both equal out on the price front. I think Nintendo prices are on crack though.
 
PS Pro is pitiful. I will probably just stick with my PS4. was thinking about trading in my extra ps4 (downstairs) and upgrading but no chance in hell i'll pay an extra $200/$250 after trade in. Guess i may have have to jump back on the xbox train again ala. 2005 when the scorpio finally launch.  

 
gentlyporking said:
Wow, I was ready to upgrade to the newer model, but Sony actually talked itself out of a sale with today's reveal.

I see no actual reason to upgrade, unless I get a 4K TV (which I won't until they start dropping to an acceptable price late next year).
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Acceptable price? I've seen 65 inches under a grand with hdr.
 
Really disappointed about 4k bluray.   I will still probably buy this box but I was hoping it gave me a reason to skip the Xbox One S completely.   Also both the slim and the pro look like shit.  

 
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