Switch preorder questions... thread?

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Now knowing that there are two presentations the 13th regarding the Switch and its games. I'm now turning the table to discuss a little about pre-ordering. As information comes in to collected together so we have a reliable as possible resource. I'm sure that we will get rumblings from store employees at GameStop, Best Buy, Walmart, etc... earlier than next Friday regarding pre-orders in-store and online.
 
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Well I know it's not a deal.. being below msrp that is. But considering Nintendo's past history of undelivering launch items. I figured this to be potentially useful thread. I.e. look at the classic NES thread.
 
Larry Davis said:
Preorders will either open on the 13th or 14th after date and price are announced. The end.
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Yes because if pre-orders go live on the 13th good luck getting one on the 14th. This is obviously here to collect more information under the speculation that pre-orders will sell out fairly quickly. I'm sorry if I didn't directly spell it out and it wasn't completely understood by inferring meaning of the thread.
 
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grumpier said:
Yes because if pre-orders go live on the 13th good luck getting one on the 14th. This is obviously here to collect more information under the speculation that pre-orders will sell out fairly quickly. I'm sorry if I didn't directly spell it out and it wasn't completely understood by inferring meaning of the thread.
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What is with the mentality that all Nintendo consoles are rare and in high demand at launch? Wake up to the reality that Nintendo isn't the God of Gaming that they used to be. Look no further than the Wii U for proof of that.

There's no need for a thread to feed the hype, just let it go.
 
chimpmeister said:
What is with the mentality that all Nintendo consoles are rare and in high demand at launch? Wake up to the reality that Nintendo isn't the God of Gaming that they used to be. Look no further than the Wii U for proof of that.

There's no need for a thread to feed the hype, just let it go.
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It has nothing to do with hype.. has more to do about being a resource for finding information. If you don't want anything to do with the thread don't read it.
 
grumpier said:
Yes because if pre-orders go live on the 13th good luck getting one on the 14th. This is obviously here to collect more information under the speculation that pre-orders will sell out fairly quickly. I'm sorry if I didn't directly spell it out and it wasn't completely understood by inferring meaning of the thread.
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Why do you think preorders will sell out that quickly?

 
Past history of new systems usually shows this. I wouldn't expect this to be really any different. Usually launch time frame new systems are hard to come by.
 
grumpier said:
Past history of new systems usually shows this. I wouldn't expect this to be really any different. Usually launch time frame new systems are hard to come by.
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New systems that come out for the holidays maybe, not for March. Or are limited collector's editions. The key here is you don't have parents desperate for a Christmas gift their kids want all at the same time it comes out. You figure the system will be in the $250-300 range, not out of line for a Christmas gift for most, but absurd for the average "just because" in March purchase for their kid. If it isn't easy to find people will realize they have 9 months to find it for next Christmas.

Holiday release consoles are a unique collection of factors, initial quantities, brand new tech and everyone thinking "gift" all at the same time. Not to mention all the news hyping the "hot" Christmas gifts.

Nintendo will likely have more quantity dedicated towards a new mainline console release, they always do - the Wii was the only one that had any sort of long term shortage issues. I've got a feeling there are going to be ALOT of disappointed scalers for the Switch due to the March release.

 
Due to how easy it is to preorder nowadays its easy to predict what will happen. Preorders go live on 15th some will jump the gun and let it go early. Sales will go oos in a day or two and tons go up on ebay. After a few weeks preorders gp back up IF Nintendo wants it too and ebayers cancel or stock is limited and flippers are happy.

Id like to think nintendo has learned but never bet against Nintendo stupidity.
 
chimpmeister said:
What is with the mentality that all Nintendo consoles are rare and in high demand at launch? Wake up to the reality that Nintendo isn't the God of Gaming that they used to be. Look no further than the Wii U for proof of that.

There's no need for a thread to feed the hype, just let it go.
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I own every Nintendo console (except Virtual Boy) so maybe I should be a fanboy, but I can't help but feel the same way. They definitely aren't the company they were during the SNES era and I tend to get annoyed at the constant idol-worship that goes along with them, mostly because it's fueled by 30-somethings my age who were kids during their glory years and have nostalgia fever thinking Nintendo is the only company that can make good games because that's what they had when they were young. I enjoy Zelda and I do think that Mario is probably the most refined platformer, but there's really alot of undeserved hype otherwise. Nowadays their systems sell off the strength of that nostalgia.

 
This thread might have been relevant if the Switch was actually in demand.

 
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chimpmeister said:
What is with the mentality that all Nintendo consoles are rare and in high demand at launch? Wake up to the reality that Nintendo isn't the God of Gaming that they used to be. Look no further than the Wii U for proof of that.

There's no need for a thread to feed the hype, just let it go.
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Jodou said:
This thread might have been relevant if the Switch was actually in demand.
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Yeeeeeah can we stop being silly? This happened with the Wii U at launch. So can you stop derailing the thread and answer OP's question?

 
Thatguy1513 said:
It did sell out online. But I walked into several stores about 1 week after launch and they all had them in stock. I'm sure online preorders will sell out again, but that doesn't mean these are going to be hard to find.
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Personally I remember them being sold out literally everywhere, online and retail, in my location. I bet the same will happen with the Switch. Nintendo is a powerful brand name. Not to mention that when it comes to feeding demand they don't make any sense.

tearsintherain said:
Due to how easy it is to preorder nowadays its easy to predict what will happen. Preorders go live on 15th some will jump the gun and let it go early. Sales will go oos in a day or two and tons go up on ebay. After a few weeks preorders gp back up IF Nintendo wants it too and ebayers cancel or stock is limited and flippers are happy.

Id like to think nintendo has learned but never bet against Nintendo stupidity.
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This is what will occur 100% with the Switch, perfectly said.

 
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Thatguy1513 said:
It did sell out online. But I walked into several stores about 1 week after launch and they all had them in stock. I'm sure online preorders will sell out again, but that doesn't mean these are going to be hard to find.
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Bingo. Online pre-orders sell out fast because scalpers can reserve the order on a credit card (without it being charged), then drop the pre-order no problem if the item doesn't turn out rare. Stores are slow to put the availability back up after closing pre-orders due to cancellations. A new console sold by Nintendo (who aims at kids), isn't going to go gangbusters right away in March. If it does well and people like it, it will pick up in the Winter.

I think a March release is a good idea to establish yourself if you have a good console and need some focus like Nintendo does. You don't have to worry as much about demand or other holiday items trying to elbow you for attention.

 
People seem to be forgetting this console is not being marketed towards children. After one single advertisement video, more people know about the Switch than the Wii U, a console that has been out for years. Nintendo hit the nail on the head with the marketing for this thing. Whether or not it will hold the hype, we'll found out next week. But I'm excited, and many non-gamer type folk are as well. 

Also, if Zelda launches with the system we can probably expect some sort of bundle which will be highly in demand.

Anyhow, on subject:

-Looks like Gamestop is supposedly taking pre-orders beginning the 13th based on various "leaks" from employees, dunno how credible that is. 

- Here is the link to Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Switch-wii-u/dp/B01LTHP2ZK I'll be refreshing that during the livestream in hopes it goes live then.

Couldn't find any actual item pages on Best Buy or Gamestop, just the generic "info" pages. Would appreciate those if any can find them.

 
tonyxvx said:
People seem to be forgetting this console is not being marketed towards children. After one single advertisement video, more people know about the Switch than the Wii U, a console that has been out for years. Nintendo hit the nail on the head with the marketing for this thing. Whether or not it will hold the hype, we'll found out next week. But I'm excited, and many non-gamer type folk are as well.

Also, if Zelda launches with the system we can probably expect some sort of bundle which will be highly in demand.

Anyhow, on subject:
-Looks like Gamestop is supposedly taking pre-orders beginning the 13th based on various "leaks" from employees, dunno how credible that is.
- Here is the link to Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Switch-wii-u/dp/B01LTHP2ZK I'll be refreshing that during the livestream in hopes it goes live then.

Couldn't find any actual item pages on Best Buy or Gamestop, just the generic "info" pages. Would appreciate those if any can find them.
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Where are those GS leaks coming from? Any links?
 
Drclaw411 said:
Where are those GS leaks coming from? Any links?
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Random reddit folks, here's a cache of a deleted post: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/5lv9w5/gamestop_friday_the_13th_preorders_will_open/

So obviously take it with a grain of salt. But not surprising in the least bit if it's true.

Here is the link to official livestream for next week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuC4YLLkqME

Also, they've announced there will be a Treehouse Event the following morning where they'll be playing the games announced during the stream. They're not messin' around.

 
tonyxvx said:
People seem to be forgetting this console is not being marketed towards children. After one single advertisement video, more people know about the Switch than the Wii U, a console that has been out for years. Nintendo hit the nail on the head with the marketing for this thing. Whether or not it will hold the hype, we'll found out next week. But I'm excited, and many non-gamer type folk are as well.

Also, if Zelda launches with the system we can probably expect some sort of bundle which will be highly in demand.

Anyhow, on subject:

-Looks like Gamestop is supposedly taking pre-orders beginning the 13th based on various "leaks" from employees, dunno how credible that is.

- Here is the link to Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Switch-wii-u/dp/B01LTHP2ZK I'll be refreshing that during the livestream in hopes it goes live then.

Couldn't find any actual item pages on Best Buy or Gamestop, just the generic "info" pages. Would appreciate those if any can find them.
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Does amazon even directly sell nintendo consoles?

 
leylines said:
Does amazon even directly sell nintendo consoles?
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Yes and no. They used to, then they stopped, then with recent 3DS models and notably the NES Classic they have. Based on their recent history and the existence of that page, I'm leaning towards "yes". Would be a dumb move from both companies not to.

But, like anything else at this point, it's just speculation.

 
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I cant wait to see how much a bomb this will be if nintendo thinks about selling this at anything above $300. 

$300 (or below preferably ), some good quality games available at launch and i might bite.

Like others have said, without the holiday shopping season in effect, there is enough elbow funding-wise to purchase a new console. 

But no way am i betting on a nintendo system post wii u at an above $300 price tag, even with the funds available, i just wont make a purchase and wait till the inevitable price drop. 

This system needs a steady stream of 3rd party support to warrant any price above $300 and we wont see how much real 3rd party support this system will have until atleast 2-3 years into its lifespan. 

 
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The haters on this thread trashing the Switch are the same people who will ask where to find one when they sell out so they can flip later. 

GTFO here. 

Seriously, Nintendo has the demand, but more importantly, and to those who actually want one, Nintendo is the KING -- the king I say! -- at creating limited supply to drive up demand. 

This is gaming 101 and Nintendo wrote the book. 

EDIT: Best Buy can send you an alert when they gather Switch news: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/clp/nintendo-switch/pcmcat1476977522176.c?id=pcmcat1476977522176&pageType=REDIRECT&issolr=1&searchRedirect=nintendo+switch&CMP=ocss

 
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EvilChamp said:
Seriously, Nintendo has the demand, but more importantly, and to those who actually want one, Nintendo is the KING -- the king I say! -- at creating limited supply to drive up demand.
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If Nintendo "has the demand", then what happened to the Wii U? Clearly the demand for their products isn't even close to what it used to be.

As for their techniques of limiting supply to stoke demand, that is a good reason to just skip their products. It's a sleazy way to do business with regards to gaming hardware.
 
EvilChamp said:
The haters on this thread trashing the Switch are the same people who will ask where to find one when they sell out so they can flip later.

GTFO here.

Seriously, Nintendo has the demand, but more importantly, and to those who actually want one, Nintendo is the KING -- the king I say! -- at creating limited supply to drive up demand.

This is gaming 101 and Nintendo wrote the book.

EDIT: Best Buy can send you an alert when they gather Switch news: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/clp/nintendo-switch/pcmcat1476977522176.c?id=pcmcat1476977522176&pageType=REDIRECT&issolr=1&searchRedirect=nintendo+switch&CMP=ocss
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A classic case of Stockholm Syndrome.

 
chimpmeister said:
If Nintendo "has the demand", then what happened to the Wii U? Clearly the demand for their products isn't even close to what it used to be.

As for their techniques of limiting supply to stoke demand, that is a good reason to just skip their products. It's a sleazy way to do business with regards to gaming hardware.
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So, because the Wii U failed, everything else Nintendo will do will also fail?

And to the person who wrote the Stockholm Syndrome comment -- that gave me a nice chuckle. Thank you.

 
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That's not how economics work. At all. Limiting supply doesn't increase demand. They're independent of one another and pull against one another to determine an equilibrium price. Nintendo steadily supplies limited stock over time to maintain value and price, which is why their games and consoles don't see the same drastic drop in price as other gaming companies.

 
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tonyxvx said:
That's not how economics work. At all. Limiting supply doesn't increase demand. They're independent of one another and pull against one another to determine an equilibrium price. Nintendo steadily supplies limited stock over time to maintain value and price, which is why their games and consoles don't see the same drastic drop in price as other gaming companies.
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This guy. Limiting supply does not increase demand. Did you recently learn that in college lol

See:

Amiibos

NES Classic

Those are recent examples. But I do get your point and my understanding is companies do keep tabs on second market prices. If they fetch more, then they didn't make enough, but if they fetch less, then they made too many.

That said, many people who did not want an NES Classic would have bought one given the chance, including myself. That results in increased demand.

Limited supply increases demand because we are consumers and we want what we can't have.

And to add to that, what you just posted suggests the NES Classic is worth $400 $200 Is that the "equilibrium" price?

 
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EvilChamp said:
This guy. Limiting supply does not increase demand. Did you recently learn that in college lol

See:

Amiibos

NES Classic

Those are recent examples. But I do get your point and my understanding is companies do keep tabs on second market prices. If they fetch more, then they didn't make enough, but if they fetch less, then they made too many.

That said, many people who did not want an NES Classic would have bought one given the chance, including myself. That results in increased demand.

Limited supply increases demand because we are consumers and we want what we can't have.

And to add to that, what you just posted suggests the NES Classic is worth $400 $200 Is that the "equilibrium" price?
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Yikes... I'm not interested in arguing any of this, especially not here. I was just trying to prevent you two from arguing over a false premise. I'd recommend you google "how does supply and demand work", though.

 
Where or when did Nintendo say preorders start on the 13th? Unofficial preorders from a retailer is just a means to get your money. I don't believe they will know how many units they will have on launch day. I could be wrong, but on any high demand product it seems that retailers get overly excited about getting your money and can't fulfill all the orders.

 
I'm hoping preorders go live right after the event on amazon so I can get one and not have to wake up early and camp out at GameStop. Knowing how bad Nintendo is with stock issues it might sell out fast at least on amazon. I'm not sure how early to get to gamestop though i live in a small town so they will not get many. It's also a school and work day so that should help out with getting one as people who need to take off work to secure one if there worried about it selling out. Still they never have much stock so all it takes is a couple people and it's gone.
 
So, couple of updates I've seen.

- Most people already assume this, but if this is any indication it seems pre-orders will definitely be going up the day of or after the stream:

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- Japanese retailer Nikkei is now listing the Switch, and at a price of 25000 yen. Which is about $200-250. I would be surprised to see the price for unbundled console be anything but $250 at this point.

 
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I heard the Switch will launch with 2 million units. I would imagine that if they launch with new Zelda game the system will indeed sell out. 

That, coupled with an attractive $249 price point and re sellers lurking in the corner, I would not be surprised if this sells out. 

 
tonyxvx said:
So, couple of updates I've seen.

- Most people already assume this, but if this is any indication it seems pre-orders will definitely be going up the day of or after the stream:

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- Japanese retailer Nikkei is now listing the Switch, and at a price of 25000 yen. Which is about $200-250. I would be surprised to see the price for unbundled console be anything but $250 at this point.
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wonder what they will take

2ds

3ds

new 3ds

wii

im going to guess probally just wii and new 3ds

got a new 3ds xl this xmas forgot to return and stuck with it.. love to get my 200 back out of it

news is coming out 11pm.. that is a weird tme

 
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Exciting news!!!

Online store cdon.com has listed the Switch with a number of accessories and "Starter Kits". Here is the full list followed by a link (no pictures yet unfortunately):

  • zelda starter kit sheikah eye edition
  • zelda starter kit links tunic edition
  • mario starter kit m edition
  • mario starter kit pattern edition
  • starter kit
  • system case
  • mario system case
  • zelda system case
  • secure travel game case
  • joycon gel guards
  • clean and protect kit
  • mono communicator (what is that?)
  • stereo wired headset
  • vehicle power adapter
http://cdon.no/search?q=nintendo+switch#blockid=search&category_group_id=&display=3&sort-order=16&page=1

 
slidecage said:
highly doubt it.. dragon quest 10 and 11 maybe march 2020..i would buy a switch day 1 if dragon x and xi was out same day
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It's obviously possible some of those dates are just placeholders, but it's a good indicator the Switch will launch on the 19th.

 
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