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#3931 EvilChamp   Super Nintendo CAGiversary!   2145 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:27 PM

I look at it this way, now that this bot is widely available or will be soon, it evens the playing field for everyone. You know longer need to be a computer whiz to create your own bot or how to program it. Retailers don't care as long as they sell 100% of their inventory. Nintendo won't do anything about it because they like this artificial shortage as it creates demand for their products. If everyone used bots, there would be not clear advantage for anyone. I think this guy has just found a niche market and is capitalizing on it. Gotta pay to play!

What are you talking about? I have no clue how to run bots let alone where to get one of these. 

 

I built my own computer and know the LG OLED is the best tv mankind has ever made, but I don't know how to code. This un levels the playing field if anything 

 

GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRUMBLE .... this is why Walmart sold out in ONE minute. How is that level? 

 

EDIT: I'm not a disgruntled anything; I got my PO at GS yesterday. But this bot business is not cool. 


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#3932 wolve   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1067 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:32 PM

The sad thing is, bots will eventually run the world. This preorder debacle is just a tiny drop in the bucket.



#3933 SukhShanti  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:32 PM

What are you talking about? I have no clue how to run bots let alone where to get one of these. 

 

I built my own computer and know the LG OLED is the best tv mankind has ever made, but I don't know how to code. This un levels the playing field if anything 

 

GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRUMBLE .... this is why Walmart sold out in ONE minute. How is that level? 

 

EDIT: I'm not a disgruntled anything; I got my PO at GS yesterday. But this bot business is not cool. 

That's why I say or "will be soon". I am sure he is working to find a way the average joe can run his bot, maybe not for the SNES classic, but I am sure by the time the N64 classic comes out. I don't like it as much as you, but it seems he is creating a business around Nintendo's shortcoming of under producing everything they release.



#3934 Miada   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   980 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:35 PM

The sad thing is, bots will eventually run the world. This preorder debacle is just a tiny drop in the bucket.


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Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:44 PM

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#3936 evuong   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   235 Posts   Joined 5.6 Years Ago  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:48 PM

So wait, let me get this straight: That website wanted $80 so it could secure you an SNES Mini when it came out? 

Yup.  Essentially paying $160 for the system. 



#3937 Cagg  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:50 PM

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

 

BOTS ... 

 

https://www.polygon....er-bot-tai-ding

 

So did Amazon create that weird and unannounced alternate listing for the SNES Classic to evade bots?



#3938 SonictheHedgehog1337   CheapAssGamer4Life CAGiversary!   7508 Posts   Joined 10.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:53 PM

When does it become psychotic in relation to checking preorder status? Right now I'm at a couple times an hour, especially with the weirdness of that amazon listing. 


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#3939 gnugget5   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   296 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:56 PM

EDIT: Fuck it, this isn't getting anywhere. Just answer this question:

Reselling is illegal. How difficult does it become to get a preorder? Does it stay the same, get harder or get easier?

Actually, reselling items that you legally bought as an individual (not a corporation or business) is perfectly legal in the USA.  Its gets sticky if someone is turning this into a business venture, not an isolated case of "I'm selling my one item."  There are tax and warranty implications that may need to be considered when dealing with an electronic device (such as a SNES Classic), but nothing that can't be overcome with careful consideration. 

 

Make no mistake, I have no intention to encourage, enable, or advocate the practice of reselling through any of my discussions.  I'm being practical and analyzing the situation for what it is: a legal reality. 

 

From your perspective, reselling will most certainly make it more challenging for you to secure a preorder, and likely the final product at release.  However, that distinction is only valid in the short term - over time, either the resellers will find another purchaser (at an inflated price) or the product will be returned to retail channels. 

 

Remember - nobody is entitled to anything.  Just because a good of trade is provided by the manufacturer does not give you (or anyone) the right to purchase it.  Availability can and always will be an issue...for anything of sale.  It's been said many times before: the best way to combat reselling (if it gets under your skin) is to not support it.  Its existence is fueled by enablers.


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#3940 gnugget5   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   296 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:58 PM

Complemented

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#3941 Nothing371   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   6552 Posts   Joined 6.4 Years Ago  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:09 PM

Whatever.  I got classic pre-orders without having to pay for a $110 bot.   That's uhh kinda what this site is for. 


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#3942 EvilChamp   Super Nintendo CAGiversary!   2145 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:13 PM

Whatever.  I got classic pre-orders without having to pay for a $110 bot.   That's uhh kinda what this site is for. 

This site will eventually be a bunch of "bots" complaining to each other about not being able to get the GameCube Classic. 


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#3943 Miada   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   980 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:13 PM

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#3944 gnugget5   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   296 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:15 PM

This site will eventually be a bunch of "bots" complaining to each other about not being able to get the GameCube Classic. 

Your crystal ball sees 2 years into the future?  :)


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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:16 PM

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You could've also gone with a gif from The Matrix.  You chose correctly.



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#3946 sp00ge   Hey guys, I'm a turd! CAGiversary!   11838 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:17 PM

Actually, reselling items that you legally bought as an individual (not a corporation or business) is perfectly legal in the USA.  Its gets sticky if someone is turning this into a business venture, not an isolated case of "I'm selling my one item."  There are tax and warranty implications that may need to be considered when dealing with an electronic device (such as a SNES Classic), but nothing that can't be overcome with careful consideration. 

 

Make no mistake, I have no intention to encourage, enable, or advocate the practice of reselling through any of my discussions.  I'm being practical and analyzing the situation for what it is: a legal reality. 

 

From your perspective, reselling will most certainly make it more challenging for you to secure a preorder, and likely the final product at release.  However, that distinction is only valid in the short term - over time, either the resellers will find another purchaser (at an inflated price) or the product will be returned to retail channels. 

 

Remember - nobody is entitled to anything.  Just because a good of trade is provided by the manufacturer does not give you (or anyone) the right to purchase it.  Availability can and always will be an issue...for anything of sale.  It's been said many times before: the best way to combat reselling (if it gets under your skin) is to not support it.  Its existence is fueled by enablers.

UI'mm 99% certain this was a hypothetical.  If it were illegal, would everyone who wanted to be able to get one?



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#3947 EvilChamp   Super Nintendo CAGiversary!   2145 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:21 PM

Your crystal ball sees 2 years into the future?  :)

That's nuts, but you're right. Theoretically that is two years away. 

 

Although SNES is my favorite console, I can't help but think I'd be more excited about the GC Classic. I feel that is the most underrated system ever -- yes more so than Dreamcast -- and it holds a special place in my heart: In college, each roommate of mine had one system. I was the guy with the GC, the other two had PS3, Xbox. 

 

So many great games on GC .... 


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#3948 gnugget5   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   296 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:35 PM

UI'mm 99% certain this was a hypothetical.  If it were illegal, would everyone who wanted to be able to get one?

I think it's pretty clear that the poster believes reselling is illegal - there's not exactly many ways to misinterpret "Reselling is illegal." 

 

It's possible that the question was intended as rhetorical.  However, even if resellers were removed from the equation, I'm not sure that there would still be sufficient supply to meet the perceived demand.  Of course, if resellers were gone, there's a good chance that Nintendo's sales estimates and production would be altered in some way, thereby having an effect on the total supply. 


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#3949 gnugget5   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   296 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:40 PM

That's nuts, but you're right. Theoretically that is two years away. 

 

Although SNES is my favorite console, I can't help but think I'd be more excited about the GC Classic. I feel that is the most underrated system ever -- yes more so than Dreamcast -- and it holds a special place in my heart: In college, each roommate of mine had one system. I was the guy with the GC, the other two had PS3, Xbox. 

 

So many great games on GC .... 

I agree - my Gamecube has a pretty strong library and seems to be built like an indestructible black brick.  Although I never owned them during the console lifecyle, I tracked down copies of the GBA player (w/ disc!), MGS: The Twin Snakes, and FE:PoR before prices started to skyrocket. 

 

I was particularly impressed by the FE:PoR copy that I picked up during the Gamestop liquidation on GC products (90% off?); turns out it was in mint condition with the original case/manuals and even unused Club Nintendo codes.  All for about $5.XX out the door. 

 

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#3950 Shadowmoses12   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   1093 Posts   Joined 5.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:52 PM

god I hope with me changing the addresses for my two over seas snes miniwont get canceled. cause I am willing to trade one over sea for a nes classic still sealed if any guys have extras

#3951 scottman   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3526 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:54 PM

I think it's pretty clear that the poster believes reselling is illegal - there's not exactly many ways to misinterpret "Reselling is illegal." 

 

It's possible that the question was intended as rhetorical.  However, even if resellers were removed from the equation, I'm not sure that there would still be sufficient supply to meet the perceived demand.  Of course, if resellers were gone, there's a good chance that Nintendo's sales estimates and production would be altered in some way, thereby having an effect on the total supply. 

Lack of inflection in text and just missing a "If" or "Say" before "reselling is illegal".  I also viewed his statement as a hypothetical scenario that he was asking about, not his belief.  The immediately following sentences "How difficult does it become to get a preorder? Does it stay the same, get harder or get easier?" make no sense in any other context than he is asking you about his stated scenario.  You are analyzing his words like a robot without good AI.  Wait, are you one of those SNES classic scalping bots?!?!?!   8-[  :lol:  

 

And this type of event is why socialism or whatever it is called can gain ground, so everyone can get their own snes classic.  I can just picture all of us standing in line for our 1 unit on "snes classic day" at the government distribution center. hahah 



#3952 gnugget5   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   296 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:58 PM

Nevermind - mispost.


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#3953 tylerdurden10   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   368 Posts   Joined 9.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 10:02 PM

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That just reminds me, anybody else would LOVE to see them make a Terminator game using the same engine/game design as Horizon: Zero Dawn? Since basically considering that game is pretty much a direct knock off (in a good way) of the Terminator franchise?  8-)



#3954 portnoyd   Amiiboversary! CAGiversary!   766 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 10:30 PM

I think it's pretty clear that the poster believes reselling is illegal - there's not exactly many ways to misinterpret "Reselling is illegal." 

 

It's possible that the question was intended as rhetorical.  However, even if resellers were removed from the equation, I'm not sure that there would still be sufficient supply to meet the perceived demand.  Of course, if resellers were gone, there's a good chance that Nintendo's sales estimates and production would be altered in some way, thereby having an effect on the total supply. 

 

Actually, reselling items that you legally bought as an individual (not a corporation or business) is perfectly legal in the USA.  Its gets sticky if someone is turning this into a business venture, not an isolated case of "I'm selling my one item."  There are tax and warranty implications that may need to be considered when dealing with an electronic device (such as a SNES Classic), but nothing that can't be overcome with careful consideration. 

 

Make no mistake, I have no intention to encourage, enable, or advocate the practice of reselling through any of my discussions.  I'm being practical and analyzing the situation for what it is: a legal reality. 

 

From your perspective, reselling will most certainly make it more challenging for you to secure a preorder, and likely the final product at release.  However, that distinction is only valid in the short term - over time, either the resellers will find another purchaser (at an inflated price) or the product will be returned to retail channels. 

 

Remember - nobody is entitled to anything.  Just because a good of trade is provided by the manufacturer does not give you (or anyone) the right to purchase it.  Availability can and always will be an issue...for anything of sale.  It's been said many times before: the best way to combat reselling (if it gets under your skin) is to not support it.  Its existence is fueled by enablers.

It's pretty clear you know that the response you know to be true is going to funnel you into finally being proven wrong in the original question, that being:

 

 

I would wager hard cash that if you completely removed the reselling aspect of the demand, there would be just enough systems to fulfill the demand from those wanting to keep the damn thing. 

 

 

Not a chance.

 

 

So you drown your post in deflection (no one believes you really thought I wasn't being hypothetical) so no one notices you gave the answer to my question (bolded above).

 

So, yes, it would get easier to secure a preorder and the gap between those who want one and who would get them would decrease. My wager is it could completely close and there could be a chance of that.

 

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#3955 Stridix   IT"S OVER 9000!!! CAGiversary!   142 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 10:42 PM

Lol someone on reddit said K-mart is gonna open up preorders....

 

I laughed and watched this commercial instead



#3956 spoonman   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   146 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 10:53 PM

Has anyone tried contacting Amazon through email messaging (Help/Need more help/Contact us) about their purchased Nintendo Digital Downloads/Game Trust Entertainment System: Super NES Classic Edition?

I have found in the past that messaging them seems to yield more accurate responses than that of the live chat CSA's. I'm personally avoiding it because I am sure that it's not going to be a valid sale. I guess I'm in denial about it and would rather go on thinking there is still a tiny possibility that this order is valid. :(

I didn't even get a single email notification this time around... not from any of the places I clicked on (NOTIFY ME BY EMAIL!), not even from Nowinstock.net, and I tested that out too! It notified me when Wal-Mart had its first initial wave of (borked) pre-orders. Which I jumped on and was very happy to have my single system pre-ordered.

I thought, "this is awesome! I don't have to worry about watching my email and game news like a hawk and can enjoy the rest of the Summer." Then of course they waited a week to cancel and then didn't bother to notify me when they became available to order FOR REAL. Such a pain in the ass.

Also, waiting in line and buying one at launch is not an option for me do to health problems.
It's online or nothing, and it's looking like nothing at this point unless that Amazon deal comes through, but the fact that they deleted the page listing kinda took away most of my hope of that happening.

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#3957 spoonman   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   146 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:08 PM

snes is dead and buried, no more for ever....  so let's speculate:
 
N64 classic will have 
ocarina of time **
majora's mask **
wave race
mario kart
mario 64
f-zero x
star fox
kirby
yoshi's story
rogue squadron
paper mario
mario golf (licensing?)
mario tennis (licensing?)
cruisin?
 
maybe not due to licensing from rare?:
donkey kong 64
diddy kong 
banjo 1 ,2  
conker !!!!  (probably not)
goldeneye
perfect dark
jet force gemini
 
So although I wasn't too excited for one, now looking at these games makes me think this will be super popular if made.  If they could get some of the off-beat games like space station silicon valley and others as fillers, it would be even better. They could just put the 2 zeldas and paint it gold and sell out like crazy.  If they include multiple controllers or make them easier to find separately, they could also add mario party, super smash bros, and it would become the party system of the season.  My guess will be 10-15 games and 2-4 controllers for $100.


Nintendo retained the rights to N64. Rare owns Conker, Banjo 1&2, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, and are on their Rare Replay compilation, so it's not something I'd ever expect to see on a Nintendo based product... UNLESS Nintendo were to trade Goldeneye 007 to Microsoft to release their HD Remaster in exchange for the ability to release the Rare N64 games on their Virtual Console, but I think that ship has sailed when Nintendo have them a big DK thumb's down to the offer.

It's sad too, because some of the very best N64 games never make it to Virtual Console, and will surely be missed on an N64 Classic Edition system as well. I think even releasing a syst e like that will just draw more attention to what Nintendo doesn't own!

So no Goldeneye 007, Conker Bad Fur Day, Jet Force Gemini, Blast Corps, Diddy Kong Racing, Banjon Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Perfect Dark, and Killer Instinct Gold!

I Also don't think we'll see the Star Wars games such as Shadows of the Empire, Rogue Squadron, star Wars Episode I Racer, Battle for Naboo due to pricy 20th Century Fox licensing.

I would however try to add Doom 64, Tetrisphere, Sin & Punishment, Beetle Adventure Racing, Turok to the list.

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#3958 defpally   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1585 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 12:25 AM

Nintendo retained the rights to N64. Rare owns Conker, Banjo 1&2, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, and are on their Rare Replay compilation, so it's not something I'd ever expect to see on a Nintendo based product... UNLESS Nintendo were to trade Goldeneye 007 to Microsoft to release their HD Remaster in exchange for the ability to release the Rare N64 games on their Virtual Console, but I think that ship has sailed when Nintendo have them a big DK thumb's down to the offer.

It's sad too, because some of the very best N64 games never make it to Virtual Console, and will surely be missed on an N64 Classic Edition system as well. I think even releasing a syst e like that will just draw more attention to what Nintendo doesn't own!

So no Goldeneye 007, Conker Bad Fur Day, Jet Force Gemini, Blast Corps, Diddy Kong Racing, Banjon Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Perfect Dark, and Killer Instinct Gold!

I Also don't think we'll see the Star Wars games such as Shadows of the Empire, Rogue Squadron, star Wars Episode I Racer, Battle for Naboo due to pricy 20th Century Fox licensing.

I would however try to add Doom 64, Tetrisphere, Sin & Punishment, Beetle Adventure Racing, Turok to the list.

Goldeneye is more complicated than that, it involves the license with the movie rights owners as well.  So three parties are involved in the license.  But Microsoft/Rare and Nintendo actually play together pretty well on those things, there probably isn't enough profit potential to go re-license the movie.  Nintendo could have made several of the Rare games much more complicated to license (and later to add to Replay) but they didn't, they just don't let things go when it involves their direct properties, like Donkey/Diddy Kong and Starfox.  I remember reading they were actually pretty cool about those games that Rare made outside of the ones with Nintendo characters.  They also made nice really quickly on the cross console play with Microsoft, Sony are the ones being dicks over that.



#3959 brascoFS  

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 01:12 AM

I don't understand how listings for this are already on eBay. Don't they have to be up 30 days BEFORE the item is released, at least? How are those up then? SMH.

#3960 wolve   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1067 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 24 August 2017 - 01:18 AM

Lol someone on reddit said K-mart is gonna open up preorders....

 

I laughed and watched this commercial instead

LMAO forgot about that commercial. Too f'ing funny.  :rofl:







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