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#6121 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67199 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:48 PM

A straight line 5 in a row doesn't give you a free turn and wild card (white circle) gem?  It does in the Android version.  4 in a row clears a line on Android and computer never tries to make the L shape on Android.  

 

Marvel MPQ and traditional (superior) Puzzle Quest are very different games with significantly different rules.

I'm not 100% sure about that since there's not much of a tutorial to it, but playing some more and trying to set up some more extra move scenarios, 5 in a row does give an extra move and the wild card (the flashing gem?) gem does not give one by default. L and T shape matches do give extra turns.

 

I'm still not sure what the comic cover unlocks do. Does it unlock another of their moves or give that character another level? It's unclear. Either the tutorial wasn't very good or I completely missed some of this stuff, but I can at least figure out the matching rules with trial and error. It would be nice to be able to set up teams like in Gems of War so I don't have to re-pick the heroes for each match.



#6122 Polerand   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   134 Posts   Joined 6.4 Years Ago  

Polerand

Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:59 PM

No, a bug is when two or more functional lines of code collide and create an unforseen consequence.
 
This is not that. The code itself is not written properly. It's not a bug, it's fundamentally improper coding. Big difference.


If only you knew the code and the db structure to make that assessment. Maybe they initially did sales by temporarily changing the price in the MSRP column and later added a salesprice column and forgot to add that in to sorting.

#6123 AoA   Ace of Aces CAGiversary!   1499 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:03 AM

I'm not 100% sure about that since there's not much of a tutorial to it, but playing some more and trying to set up some more extra move scenarios, 5 in a row does give an extra move and the wild card (the flashing gem?) gem does not give one by default. L and T shape matches do give extra turns.

 

I'm still not sure what the comic cover unlocks do. Does it unlock another of their moves or give that character another level? It's unclear. Either the tutorial wasn't very good or I completely missed some of this stuff, but I can at least figure out the matching rules with trial and error. It would be nice to be able to set up teams like in Gems of War so I don't have to re-pick the heroes for each match.

Assuming its the same PS4 vs Android.  Additional covers let you add attacks to any character.  There are 3 colors for each hero and each one can go up to level 5 BUT you can only have 13 covers total (5/5/3, 5/3/5, 4/4/5, etc).  You can also increase the total level of the character which gives more HP, more attack power for every color (3 stronger ones and 3 weaker ones) when you match 3 and more attack power for the special attacks.  

A sword icon increases the total attack of any move.  A shield icon decreases the enemy's attack on you.  A fist icon does damage after your turn is over (and can be influenced by swords).

 

Yes, you have to pick your team every time.  The trick is finding synergy and covering as many covers as possible (so every match does bigger damage) and using passive attacks.

Like if Professor X is in the game, you would combine him with 3-star Scarlet Witch and 3-star Black Widow.  Scarlet Witch has a passive attack that puts a countdown tile which turns surrounding tiles into purple.  When the purples appear, you might get 5 in a row which activates Prof X's passive which actually does 1000's of damage to the enemy,  Even if you don't get 5 in a row, if you collect enough purple, you can fire Black Widows purple power which adds green tiles to the board (and you pick where).  Of course, you can make more 5 in a rows and get more Prof X auto attacks.  When you have enough green, you can use Black Widow's special attack which blows a big hole in the board and dose big damage to the whole enemy team.

 

If you play your cards right, you can set up many moves in succession (unlike traditional PQ).  Most special attacks don't end your turn.  Goons/generic characters don't make moves but automatically acquire colors that other characters can use in their attacks.



#6124 AoA   Ace of Aces CAGiversary!   1499 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:08 AM

Now that I've typed so much about it, I realize that I really do enjoy MPQ.

I'm getting it.  The Free to Play Android version is frustrating because they always want money and they constantly add new characters that people spend real money on to win and get even more characters.

 

But me, 1500 days and so far, no money ever spent.   I secretly want them to shut it down (like Heroes Omega) so I can just be done.



#6125 WolfmanASTN   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   1544 Posts   Joined 5.8 Years Ago  

WolfmanASTN

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:17 AM

It’s the millennial mindset, they need trophies for anything. We will never understand it. Trying to change things around when I was a kid I did like getting a trophy for martial arts, I liked martial arts and getting a trophy for being the best I did like and proudly displaying it on my wall. What will baffle me and probably any gen xer is why in the world would I take up cooking because they were giving out easy trophys for it when I didnt even like cooking. Game trophys arent about being the best at something, Its about if you have waisted enough time at a certain game.


I don't understand something so it must mean millenials are lazy!

I like trophies as a way to show how much of a game I've explored. I don't care about getting every trophy for every game I play, but i especially love getting trophies to show i beat the story and found secrets i probably wouldn't have looked for otherwise.

Plus i can see how far my friends are in a game and get on their case if they haven't finished something.

#6126 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67199 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:20 AM

Assuming its the same PS4 vs Android.  Additional covers let you add attacks to any character.  There are 3 colors for each hero and each one can go up to level 5 BUT you can only have 13 covers total (5/5/3, 5/3/5, 4/4/5, etc).  You can also increase the total level of the character which gives more HP, more attack power for every color (3 stronger ones and 3 weaker ones) when you match 3 and more attack power for the special attacks.  

A sword icon increases the total attack of any move.  A shield icon decreases the enemy's attack on you.  A fist icon does damage after your turn is over (and can be influenced by swords).

 

Yes, you have to pick your team every time.  The trick is finding synergy and covering as many covers as possible (so every match does bigger damage) and using passive attacks.

Like if Professor X is in the game, you would combine him with 3-star Scarlet Witch and 3-star Black Widow.  Scarlet Witch has a passive attack that puts a countdown tile which turns surrounding tiles into purple.  When the purples appear, you might get 5 in a row which activates Prof X's passive which actually does 1000's of damage to the enemy,  Even if you don't get 5 in a row, if you collect enough purple, you can fire Black Widows purple power which adds green tiles to the board (and you pick where).  Of course, you can make more 5 in a rows and get more Prof X auto attacks.  When you have enough green, you can use Black Widow's special attack which blows a big hole in the board and dose big damage to the whole enemy team.

 

If you play your cards right, you can set up many moves in succession (unlike traditional PQ).  Most special attacks don't end your turn.  Goons/generic characters don't make moves but automatically acquire colors that other characters can use in their attacks.

Thanks for the info!



#6127 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67199 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:32 AM

In case you missed it, here's the full list of new deals for today.



#6128 Vogyn   MMO Junkie CAGiversary!   677 Posts   Joined 3.8 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:34 AM

Amazon Resident Evil 7 Gold Edition - $19.99 Digital



#6129 .Beowulf  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:37 AM

Amazon Resident Evil 7 Gold Edition - $19.99 Digital

lol I just paid 45 for this on xbox a few weeks ago

 

ouch



#6130 hostyl1   Rejoice commoners! CAGiversary!   2744 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:38 AM

Thanks for the info!

The only thing I'll add is the covers are also how you recruit new characters. In the android version, you have to collect enough of one of the gold currency to unlock roster spots. You can also dismiss a current character to free up a spot. I'll say that I play it every day mostly. I havent spent real money on it and still manage to have fun with it. Though I dont know how much I'd like sitting at the TV playing vs the phone while in waiting rooms, on the crapper, etc.

I never finished the original Puzzle Quest on the DS. I got to the final boss and kept getting my ass handed to me!



#6131 Vogyn   MMO Junkie CAGiversary!   677 Posts   Joined 3.8 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:41 AM

lol I just paid 45 for this on xbox a few weeks ago

 

ouch

I'm so tempted, but I have a PC for steam sales. I can wait. 



#6132 Lonely Boy  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:54 AM

27.77 GB. *sigh* What do I delete this time?



#6133 chipzilla   Gene's Hairy Mole CAGiversary!   329 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

chipzilla

Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:03 AM

Amazon Resident Evil 7 Gold Edition - $19.99 Digital

This is great, Thanks! Have VR and been waiting for a sale on this.



#6134 Glas   Rhythm Game Maniac CAGiversary!   242 Posts   Joined 5.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:10 AM

PRICE ERROR: Resident Evil 7 Gold Edition (PS4 Digital) is $19.99 at Amazon (60% off) http://amzn.to/2yuHdSN 

 

https://www.amazon.c...f01e99b25e9f6d9



#6135 jms209   CAG Newbie CAGiversary!   549 Posts   Joined 5.3 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:14 AM

PRICE ERROR: Resident Evil 7 Gold Edition (PS4 Digital) is $19.99 at Amazon (60% off) http://amzn.to/2yuHdSN 

 

https://www.amazon.c...f01e99b25e9f6d9

 

Also if there's any good soul to sell me one for 20$ paypal, would be very appreciated, I don't have a credit card so amazon is out for me

It said it's unavailable. Too late.



#6136 chipzilla   Gene's Hairy Mole CAGiversary!   329 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

chipzilla

Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:26 AM

Wow, I've must've gotten in on this last minute. I also got in on the (price glitch?) 5.99 for Life is Strange: Before the Storm Deluxe a few weeks ago. I always miss these.



#6137 Zenax[zd]   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   376 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

Zenax[zd]

Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:36 AM

Though I dont know how much I'd like sitting at the TV playing vs the phone while in waiting rooms, on the crapper, etc.

Yeah for me the game is very much going to be something I play while watching tv/listening to a podcast, thankfully though I do all those things on my laptop so playing this on the tv isn't the end of the world. A vita version of this would have been the best though.



#6138 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67199 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:40 AM

The only thing I'll add is the covers are also how you recruit new characters. In the android version, you have to collect enough of one of the gold currency to unlock roster spots. You can also dismiss a current character to free up a spot. I'll say that I play it every day mostly. I havent spent real money on it and still manage to have fun with it. Though I dont know how much I'd like sitting at the TV playing vs the phone while in waiting rooms, on the crapper, etc.

I never finished the original Puzzle Quest on the DS. I got to the final boss and kept getting my ass handed to me!

Thanks for the extra info. I tried to play it on my phone, but the online only requirement largely killed my interest. I can easily have podcasts, videos, movies, Netflix, etc. going on my PC, phone, etc while playing this that it's a great fit for me.



#6139 sainrub   CAGisdabomb! CAGiversary!   1421 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:50 AM

How do you find these deals?

 

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#6140 fujishig   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   903 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

fujishig

Posted 15 December 2017 - 02:17 AM

The only thing I'll add is the covers are also how you recruit new characters. In the android version, you have to collect enough of one of the gold currency to unlock roster spots. You can also dismiss a current character to free up a spot. I'll say that I play it every day mostly. I havent spent real money on it and still manage to have fun with it. Though I dont know how much I'd like sitting at the TV playing vs the phone while in waiting rooms, on the crapper, etc.

I never finished the original Puzzle Quest on the DS. I got to the final boss and kept getting my ass handed to me!

 

Yeah, I haven't played the mobile game in some time, but without familiarity with it I'd be totally lost in the console version because they don't explain much, and it seems like covers just randomly drop, so I've been replaying earlier levels to get more covers.  It would be great if they explained any of it for newbies. 

 

It's also much less intuitive because you have to click l1 to switch over to browse the powers instead of the simpler touch controls.  But for 1.50 without the p2w, I'll take it.



#6141 SlimSkeletor  

SlimSkeletor

Posted 15 December 2017 - 02:49 AM

Assuming its the same PS4 vs Android.  Additional covers let you add attacks to any character.  There are 3 colors for each hero and each one can go up to level 5 BUT you can only have 13 covers total (5/5/3, 5/3/5, 4/4/5, etc).  You can also increase the total level of the character which gives more HP, more attack power for every color (3 stronger ones and 3 weaker ones) when you match 3 and more attack power for the special attacks.  

A sword icon increases the total attack of any move.  A shield icon decreases the enemy's attack on you.  A fist icon does damage after your turn is over (and can be influenced by swords).

 

Yes, you have to pick your team every time.  The trick is finding synergy and covering as many covers as possible (so every match does bigger damage) and using passive attacks.

Like if Professor X is in the game, you would combine him with 3-star Scarlet Witch and 3-star Black Widow.  Scarlet Witch has a passive attack that puts a countdown tile which turns surrounding tiles into purple.  When the purples appear, you might get 5 in a row which activates Prof X's passive which actually does 1000's of damage to the enemy,  Even if you don't get 5 in a row, if you collect enough purple, you can fire Black Widows purple power which adds green tiles to the board (and you pick where).  Of course, you can make more 5 in a rows and get more Prof X auto attacks.  When you have enough green, you can use Black Widow's special attack which blows a big hole in the board and dose big damage to the whole enemy team.

 

If you play your cards right, you can set up many moves in succession (unlike traditional PQ).  Most special attacks don't end your turn.  Goons/generic characters don't make moves but automatically acquire colors that other characters can use in their attacks.

Man seems like this Marvel Puzzle Quest is more confusing than Bitcoin.



#6142 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67199 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 15 December 2017 - 02:50 AM

Man seems like this Marvel Puzzle Quest is more confusing than Bitcoin.

Then it's an accurate representation of comics lore.



#6143 Kain   Dragoon CAGiversary!   876 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 03:16 AM

So outside of a Platinum Trophy, does Dying Reborn have any redeeming qualities?



#6144 Seasick Pirate   Rachael's Superstar CAGiversary!   754 Posts   Joined 10.9 Years Ago  

Seasick Pirate

Posted 15 December 2017 - 03:23 AM

Have been without PSPlus since August and fought away the urges I had from the recent sales on subs. Now that I see this sale, I know I’d save enough to justify purchasing a PS+ sub now. Bet all those discounts are gone now, aren’t they?

#6145 tylerh1701   Post deals, not your blog. CAGiversary!   30538 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 03:37 AM

So outside of a Platinum Trophy, does Dying Reborn have any redeeming qualities?

The fish on the store image looks really cool???



#6146 Glas   Rhythm Game Maniac CAGiversary!   242 Posts   Joined 5.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 04:22 AM

Seems there are some new sales

 

Paranormal Activity (PS4)

https://store.playst...AVRTHELOSTSOUL1

SUPERBEAT XONiC Game & DLC (Vita)

https://store.playst...superbeat xonic

Dark Rose Valkyrie

https://store.playst...AMEDARKROSEUSA0



#6147 SackAttack   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   616 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

SackAttack

Posted 15 December 2017 - 07:24 AM

Assuming its the same PS4 vs Android.  Additional covers let you add attacks to any character.  There are 3 colors for each hero and each one can go up to level 5 BUT you can only have 13 covers total (5/5/3, 5/3/5, 4/4/5, etc).  You can also increase the total level of the character which gives more HP, more attack power for every color (3 stronger ones and 3 weaker ones) when you match 3 and more attack power for the special attacks.  

A sword icon increases the total attack of any move.  A shield icon decreases the enemy's attack on you.  A fist icon does damage after your turn is over (and can be influenced by swords).

 

Yes, you have to pick your team every time.  The trick is finding synergy and covering as many covers as possible (so every match does bigger damage) and using passive attacks.

Like if Professor X is in the game, you would combine him with 3-star Scarlet Witch and 3-star Black Widow.  Scarlet Witch has a passive attack that puts a countdown tile which turns surrounding tiles into purple.  When the purples appear, you might get 5 in a row which activates Prof X's passive which actually does 1000's of damage to the enemy,  Even if you don't get 5 in a row, if you collect enough purple, you can fire Black Widows purple power which adds green tiles to the board (and you pick where).  Of course, you can make more 5 in a rows and get more Prof X auto attacks.  When you have enough green, you can use Black Widow's special attack which blows a big hole in the board and dose big damage to the whole enemy team.

 

If you play your cards right, you can set up many moves in succession (unlike traditional PQ).  Most special attacks don't end your turn.  Goons/generic characters don't make moves but automatically acquire colors that other characters can use in their attacks.

 

I play both versions. They're similar, but not quite the same. As AoA says, on the mobile/Steam F2P versions of the game, characters are limited to 13 total covers, so 5/3/5, 5/5/3, 3/5/5, 4/5/5, etc are your coverage patterns.

 

Console MPQ doesn't have those limitations because there's no F2P mechanic to go "oh gosh darn phooey you pulled a 6th cover you can't use maybe you should spend money on another pull and try to get a cover you CAN use so you can champion the character and redeem that unusable cover for additional rewards." So any character you build, you can build 5/5/5 on the console versions. Also, there's no rarity divisions (which is goofy since they kept the character variants in the console version), so everybody is able to reach the same level cap.

 

Most of the rest of AoA's commentary here is correct. Only other addendum I've got is that the total character roster is different between the versions, partially because the F2P nature of mobile/Steam is that there are always new characters being released to keep people reaching for their wallets, and the console version did kind of a pro forma attempt at DLC characters, but basically stopped bothering with that at release. So the console roster more or less stops right about where the F2P version introduced 4* characters. Nick Fury and She-Thor are in the game from the 4* tier, I think. Maybe X-Force Wolverine. And that's about it. Anybody released on the freemium game after that isn't in the console version.

 

But the gameplay mechanics are functionally identical (save for, obviously, mechanics introduced with new characters since the code base split) and the console version has the added bonus of being able to do both local and online multiplayer, where the freemium version pits you against an AI-controlled instance of somebody else's roster.



#6148 AoA   Ace of Aces CAGiversary!   1499 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:13 PM

I play both versions. They're similar, but not quite the same. 

So as someone who plays both, is it worth me getting it?

 

I'm at day 1500 so I've played probably all of the PvE missions up to the level of character development you described 100's of times.

I'm very likely to plunk down the buck fifty maybe just to go through it again.  And couch PvP might be fun with the kids.

Honestly, I'll play it like three times and then go back to not finishing other games.



#6149 hostyl1   Rejoice commoners! CAGiversary!   2744 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 03:52 PM

Yeah, I haven't played the mobile game in some time, but without familiarity with it I'd be totally lost in the console version because they don't explain much, and it seems like covers just randomly drop, so I've been replaying earlier levels to get more covers.  It would be great if they explained any of it for newbies. 

 

It's also much less intuitive because you have to click l1 to switch over to browse the powers instead of the simpler touch controls.  But for 1.50 without the p2w, I'll take it.

In fairness, I don't recall there being much of a tutorial in the Android version either. I learned most of the stuff from other players. Once you had to play as Gwenpool and she has a power that changes depending on what code you input and the game in Deadpool 4th wall break fashion says 'go read a FAQ'. Also, when I joined an alliance, they told me what I needed to do to improve.



#6150 jimbo8574   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   7522 Posts   Joined 8.7 Years Ago  

Posted 15 December 2017 - 04:08 PM

^What about when people buy games just to get more/easy trophies?

I think the whole argument is silly. We are playing video games and do various things in game to get to the end of game and beat it. All made up objectives and challenges. To someone who doesn't play video games this looks silly to them. So you spend 8-22 hour (or whatever) shooting bad guy after bad guy, chapter after chapter just so you can get to the final chapter and beat the last boss?

I never was fanatical about trophies/achievements. There was a time in another dead thread where we had a friendly competition to see who could get the most plats or whatever each month or finish the most games or whatever. We would look at each others stats month to month. It was fun. I really didn't buy games I thought were crap just for easy plats. I agree with another poster who said it is interesting looking at other peoples trophies and achievements to see what they played and what they fully completed.

I had a 2DS for a while didn't play it much. I missed the trophy or achievement pop. If I like a game and feel the achievements aren't out of my reach I will give it a go. Just another pointless milestone.





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