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CAGcast #523: Loot Boxed Heroes


#1 CheapyD   Head Cheap Ass Administrators   17476 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 16 November 2017 - 02:52 PM

The gang discusses SW Battlefront 2 and the proper way to do loot boxes, LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 2, and so much more!

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Intro - Dr Disrespect - Gillette by 199X (Warpiggly Remix)
Outro - Thundercats "Lion-O" & "Mumm-Ra" commercial (1985)

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#2 gaypunk   Omni-Gellin CAGiversary!   139 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago  

Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:18 PM

Glad Wombat enjoyed the game, made my day. I should of gifted Castles to Cheapy & Ship as well, but I figured Wombat would actually try a 1.00 game.

 

Full disclosure, I was getting my Xbox Insider Quest done.  I was originally going to send the D&D game to all 3 of you, Sword Coasts Legends, it was on sale for 5$, but that game is terrible. 

 

Castles was hard, I played it for hours to get past the second Helicopter boss. All in all, pretty fun for a cheap ass game.



#3 Wombat   CAGcast or nothin CAGiversary!   2354 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:57 PM

Glad Wombat enjoyed the game, made my day. I should of gifted Castles to Cheapy & Ship as well, but I figured Wombat would actually try a 1.00 game.

 

Full disclosure, I was getting my Xbox Insider Quest done.  I was originally going to send the D&D game to all 3 of you, Sword Coasts Legends, it was on sale for 5$, but that game is terrible. 

 

Castles was hard, I played it for hours to get past the second Helicopter boss. All in all, pretty fun for a cheap ass game.

Thank you! And Sabrina thanks you too!



#4 shanafan_cag   XBL / PSN / NNID: shanafan CAGiversary!   385 Posts   Joined 4.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:17 PM

I oddly enough want to hear the Xbox One X test between the two TVs - Digital Foundry style. Side-by-side comparisons.



#5 DragoonKnight   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   196 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:22 PM

Enough talking about loot boxes if you're only going to use one point of reference. Wombat's only point of reference is Injustice 2 and Cheapy's only point of reference is Overwatch. Shipwreck desperately wanted out of that conversation because it was just awful. 



#6 Curufinwe   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1039 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 17 November 2017 - 01:12 AM

Seems like the market for LotR related media is still strong.

https://venturebeat....g-of-top-sales/

Middle Earth: Shadow of War was October's best-selling game overall, while also taking the top spot on both the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 platforms. Sales grew over 20 percent when compared to the launch month of the previous release in the franchise, Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor, which debuted in September 2014.

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#7 apathylad   NeoCAG CAGiversary!   654 Posts   Joined 9.0 Years Ago  

Posted 17 November 2017 - 03:01 AM

Oof. My comment didn't make a lot of sense out of context. I wrote it more in response to Wombat's frustration about Thor's RottenTomatoes score. At this point, I don't even remember what his issue with Rottentomatoes was, though. xD



#8 callmesteam   I'm just a dead man. CAGiversary!   588 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 06:03 AM

Wombat, I love you man, but you gotta let the Overwatch thing go.  It's tiresome to rag on something you have zero experience with, week after week.  I haven't played it in a year so I'm not in the superfan camp, but every week you can hear Cheapy get annoyed when you start trolling it.  Things are allowed to be well-received and good quality without you being into them.  Find a new hill to die on.

I think Overwatch and Titanfall 2 both have different, but valid, microtransaction systems.  In Titanfall 2, you can pay real money for the aesthetics you want (I think Call of Duty has a similar system) and in Overwatch you can earn loot crates (also with aesthetic items) by playing, or pay real money to buy more random loot crates.  In both instances, the 'rewards' are not game-changing, but aesthetic changes only, and the full 'game' is included in the initial purchase price.  Both games have also been supported with free DLC from the developers over the long term; Overwatch to greater success, but both have been fan-minded, positive experiences.



#9 Javery   Drug-Dealer-Keeper-Awayer CAGiversary!   22408 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 17 November 2017 - 03:48 PM

Nah - Wombat, you are totally right - Overwatch is no fun at all.



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#10 ZombieJeebus   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   154 Posts   Joined 9.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 04:47 PM

Enough talking about loot boxes if you're only going to use one point of reference. Wombat's only point of reference is Injustice 2 and Cheapy's only point of reference is Overwatch. Shipwreck desperately wanted out of that conversation because it was just awful. 

Loot box and microtransaction talk in general is so tedious.  Buy it or don't.  It's a shame EA gave an air of legitimacy to the discussion with their attempts to maximize ROI on a massively expensive Star Wars license.


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#11 sippycupz   You spoony bard! CAGiversary!   832 Posts   Joined 9.0 Years Ago  

Posted 19 November 2017 - 12:57 AM

Remember when Star Wars Battlefront was just a fun little gem you stumbled upon on in 2005 as a nice break from Halo 2?


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#12 donkeydrop   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   329 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 04:26 AM

I know you guys don’t play EAs sports games much but the reason EA thought they could get away with the whole loot box mess is their experience with the ultimate team modes. This has packs of cards but it’s basically a loot box and they are making close to a billion dollars a year selling them. 40 hours to unlock Darth Vader ... hah, that’s nothing. To get the the top players in FIFA ultimate team requires hundreds of hours and its EAs best selling and most profitable game. And it’s an annual game ... by the time you get the top level players there’s only a month or two and the games dead. Time to start over again. This has been going on for 7 or 8 years now and profits increase every year. There’s no question that there are people who are addicted and spending way too much cash in these games but so far no one has been able to convince a regulator that it’s gambling.

One other point; EAs argument about single player and limiting daily rewards may have been legit. In their other games there are definitely players that farm single player modes (usually with bots) to make coins that they then sell to regular players. Since EA is making so much money selling the loot boxes there’s plenty of incentive for a black market.

#13 Thomas96   I am Thomaticus! CAGiversary!   6056 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:05 AM

Cheapy's ability to pick great intro music is amazing!!!!!!!


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#14 tcrash247   ghosts.nin.com CAGiversary!   3652 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 19 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

Marvel Heroes shut down because Gazillion was too big for their britches.  They had a good thing going with the PC version, I sunk over 1,000 hours into it since beta.  I enjoyed it way more than Diablo 3 and I was a huge Diablo 2 player (Gaz was founded by Diablo 2 creators).  A lot of the original members left the company because they wanted to keep it going the way it was, but other people wanted to change the entire game to cater to the console crowd.  They completely changed the game systems, for the worse in my and many original PC players opinions.  The team just wasn't big enough to run 3 versions of the game.  They always had microtransactions but they were workable.  They promised a lot of things for the past couple years and rarely delivered on them, yet they kept releasing bullshit stuff to make more money.  They didn't care about the game, they cared about money.  And they apparently weren't making enough of it so it got shut down.  Good riddance, they ruined a fantastic game for a console release and because of greed.



#15 ZombieHendrix   Sorry, I lurk CAGiversary!   137 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:41 PM

I'm surprised the PS4 Pro hasn't gotten any Black Friday deals this year.  It seems like a great way to undercut the Xbox One X launch, but I'm probably just projecting because I want it to go on sale.  Any chance we see it on holiday discount in December?

 

Great show and keep up the good work (but no more Injustice talk, please)



#16 McCHitman   Reigning Champ CAGiversary!   271 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 11:37 AM

Cheapy's ability to pick great intro music is amazing!!!!!!!

I agree, he pretty much single handedly got me into that music.



#17 SoloSkywalker   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   7 Posts   Joined 4.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 05:49 PM

Cheapy's ability to pick great intro music is amazing!!!!!!!

Absolutely not! To each their own, I guess. 



#18 bickle   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   765 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 20 November 2017 - 06:10 PM

I get good laugh whenever you guys start arguing like an old married couple.

#19 tcrash247   ghosts.nin.com CAGiversary!   3652 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:07 AM

I agree, he pretty much single handedly got me into that music.

If only he listened to good electronica that didn't rely on a drop  :razz:   But it does fit the intro of the show quite well.



#20 gepet0   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1239 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 22 November 2017 - 11:26 AM

I oddly enough want to hear the Xbox One X test between the two TVs - Digital Foundry style. Side-by-side comparisons.

I agree LOL  

 

Raise your hands if anyone thought Cheapy would be harsh on the Xbox one X.  LOL  He seemed jaded before he hit the

 

Xbox X power button.   The funny thing is the new TV was a 2017 model most people would have already tested it on the newer tv.  LOL 

I remember a while back he spent a lot of time researching a TV to buy.  It will be interesting to see the results.  I know I had to upgrade to a 2017 model myself.