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#61 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4396 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

Posted 24 December 2017 - 08:15 AM

So, are all these people complaining about lootboxes actually playing the game because they enjoy it, or are they playing in the hope that they get some random, rare item that only other people who even care about the game will be impressed with? Not possible to get every special item in a short period of time? That’s too bad. I can’t imagine getting so worked up about something like this that I would create, edit and post a video about it...

It's not even really collecting it all from what I can tell, but the fact they gate off content and give low drop rates to try and get you to pay for more loot boxes, which still have a low chance of dropping what you want.

While they are mostly "Just Cosmetic" many of the items have a unique and cool appearance, some even effect gameplay. Now say there is an item you really want (I don't know if they are class specific), well you gotta deal with a random loot generator for it to drop, but you're only allowed 3 chances at getting the item per week till the event is done, unless you pay real money.

I'm playing Overwatch right now, trying to earn the few Holiday skins I'd like. The only limit on how many boxes you can get in a week are time constraints, and ALL boxes have a chance to drop the Holiday content. In contrast with Destiny 2, you're only allowed 3 holiday boxes per week, dramatically reducing the chances of getting what you want, and much, much worse for those completionist.

I myself refuse to buy any "Loot Box" or "Microtransaction" and hate to see how much they are pushing them in the current game marketplace. To the point it ruined Star Wars, and Destiny is under the same flack for how hard they are pushing it...

It's been said Battlefront 2 was the most egregious, while Destiny 2 is the most deceptive.

Another good video on the subject, though tend to dislike the host because he comes off as a pretencious prick. https://youtu.be/zTsWd4M53JU

#62 Uncle Anwar   Lemurian Cult Leader CAGiversary!   562 Posts   Joined 4.8 Years Ago  

Uncle Anwar

Posted 24 December 2017 - 10:49 AM

This is not directed at you, Jiyrn, but It just seems childish to me that somebody’s level of happiness with a game they already bought can be affected by the possibility that they can or cannot get a specific item through a random loot box. How do they even know about all possible items available and why let that affect their experience with the game? That’s like somebody being upset that they never get a particular item in a call of duty loot box...Especially when they can just buy the damn thing if they really want it that bad. I could care less about an extra gun or weapon skin. There might be one I think looks cool, but if I never get it, I really don’t care - doesnt affect the base game play for me -and if I let it, it’s my problem. This seems like adults throwing a tantrum because they can’t have everything they want..Some of these things being random makes the game environment more interesting by creating more variety if not everybody has the same items. How do these people cope when they go to a mall and see someone else with something they want and don’t have/can’t get? Ridiculous..

#63 The Dead Texan   Rest in Peace, Big Rizzle CAGiversary!   3858 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago  

The Dead Texan

Posted 24 December 2017 - 11:11 AM

Final Fantasy XII is $20 before GCU



#64 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4396 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

Posted 24 December 2017 - 05:13 PM

This is not directed at you, Jiyrn, but It just seems childish to me that somebody’s level of happiness with a game they already bought can be affected by the possibility that they can or cannot get a specific item through a random loot box. How do they even know about all possible items available and why let that affect their experience with the game? That’s like somebody being upset that they never get a particular item in a call of duty loot box...Especially when they can just buy the damn thing if they really want it that bad. I could care less about an extra gun or weapon skin. There might be one I think looks cool, but if I never get it, I really don’t care - doesnt affect the base game play for me -and if I let it, it’s my problem. This seems like adults throwing a tantrum because they can’t have everything they want..Some of these things being random makes the game environment more interesting by creating more variety if not everybody has the same items. How do these people cope when they go to a mall and see someone else with something they want and don’t have/can’t get? Ridiculous..

It seems much of the progression and game revolve around the microtransactions, and you have to deal with the loot boxes since you cannot just outright buy the items.

Forbes did an article talking about how the loot boxes are choking the life out of D2 https://www.forbes.c...h/#74ce6d2e792d

For me, it's the fact they are overly pushing free to pay elements in a premium proceed game. They are treating it like something you downloaded for free the claiming they need to do it to make money. Like the cost of the game, expansion pass, and all the other marketing deals doesn't earn them enough.

There is also the other problems such as the throttling and gating of content.

#65 NeloDiavolo   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   360 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

NeloDiavolo

Posted 24 December 2017 - 10:55 PM

It seems much of the progression and game revolve around the microtransactions, and you have to deal with the loot boxes since you cannot just outright buy the items.

Forbes did an article talking about how the loot boxes are choking the life out of D2 https://www.forbes.c...h/#74ce6d2e792d

For me, it's the fact they are overly pushing free to pay elements in a premium proceed game. They are treating it like something you downloaded for free the claiming they need to do it to make money. Like the cost of the game, expansion pass, and all the other marketing deals doesn't earn them enough.

There is also the other problems such as the throttling and gating of content.

Ironically I have had better luck and drops in Destiny 2 than in Overwatch. Last few Overwatch events, and especially the Summer one, I played the hell out of the game and didn't get a single Summer skin. So far this Winter event I am 0/0 but I don't feel like putting much time into it. D2 on the other hand I have already obtained a few armor pieces, ships, and sparrows. Overall though I would say that Overwatch feels more like the the spirit of giving compared to the Grinch that is D2 in the way that drops are obtained. 

 

Edit, also 5 free loot boxes in Overwatch today! Destiny? nada lol