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#48691 ThatOneGuyWho   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   7282 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

ThatOneGuyWho

Posted 12 November 2021 - 01:54 AM

In regards to takeout services, if they are staffed by tipped/waitstaff, they are only making $2.25 or so base an hour, so they are getting fucked if you didn't tip them for your to-go order being put together/rung up as it means they aren't waiting a table.  And it sounds like you don't thank service workers like your local USPS or garbage person during the holidays either.  

This is somewhat misleading. No tipped wage worker should be making under the federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour under the Fair Labor Standards Act. If the tipped wage worker doesn't make at least minimum wage after their hourly tipped wage (lowest being $2.13/hour) + tips, their employer has to pay the difference.

 

Biggest problem with that is the million dollar industry of wage theft where employers lie about how much you made in tips so they can avoid paying that difference, and since there is no paper trail for your cash tips, it's their word against yours. Also doesn't help the other million dollar tax fraud and tax evasion done by tipped workers who report less than their cash earnings to avoid paying the same amount of taxes that any other person has to pay but can't lie to get out of.

 

Most of these issues could be solved by removing the tipped wage and making all workers make at least minimum wage. They could still receive tips but be guaranteed, at all times, a base wage that doesn't put them below the poverty line. But servers and tipped workers think this current method is helping them. Which is ironic seeing as most tipped wage workers can barely afford rent but lobbying to place blame on customers instead of laws and the industry has been very effective.

 

They are getting fucked though, but only because tipping exist. The law wouldn't even be here if tipping wasn't expected. Employers would be forced to pay workers more and wouldn't have these loop holes to steal from them. But the restaurant business and industry spends millions a year to keep the tip wage low, minimum wage low and these loop holes here to stay, and they do it all with your tips and donations. Tip if you feel, but the blame isn't on paying customers choosing not to tip more, it's on businesses who actively work to keep workers earning less.



#48692 BobbyTastic   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   10339 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

BobbyTastic

Posted 12 November 2021 - 02:13 AM

What’s the protocol for same day orders…are we supposed to tip? I’m old and never used food delivery before. I thought you tipped from the food delivery app but if GameStop pays them, I don’t know how this is supposed to go. We tape $2 to the door? Surely not…

They are not GS clerks, just DoorDash employees.
They probably get paid jackshit (same-day delivery fee before discount was $3 for me) so I imagine a tip is expected. Of course there is no way to do this through the GS website, so what you said is probably the way to go.
Honestly, I'd rather same-day cost be higher in general than have to deal with the headache of a tip but obviously GS wants to keep it an affordable option. Either way, I've yet to use it outside of these promo periods with rarer items.

#48693 Chokingduck  

Chokingduck

Posted 12 November 2021 - 02:18 AM

This is somewhat misleading. No tipped wage worker should be making under the federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour under the Fair Labor Standards Act. If the tipped wage worker doesn't make at least minimum wage after their hourly tipped wage (lowest being $2.13/hour) + tips, their employer has to pay the difference.

 

Biggest problem with that is the million dollar industry of wage theft where employers lie about how much you made in tips so they can avoid paying that difference, and since there is no paper trail for your cash tips, it's their word against yours. Also doesn't help the other million dollar tax fraud and tax evasion done by tipped workers who report less than their cash earnings to avoid paying the same amount of taxes that any other person has to pay but can't lie to get out of.

 

Most of these issues could be solved by removing the tipped wage and making all workers make at least minimum wage. They could still receive tips but be guaranteed, at all times, a base wage that doesn't put them below the poverty line. But servers and tipped workers think this current method is helping them. Which is ironic seeing as most tipped wage workers can barely afford rent but lobbying to place blame on customers instead of laws and the industry has been very effective.

 

They are getting fucked though, but only because tipping exist. The law wouldn't even be here if tipping wasn't expected. Employers would be forced to pay workers more and wouldn't have these loop holes to steal from them. But the restaurant business and industry spends millions a year to keep the tip wage low, minimum wage low and these loop holes here to stay, and they do it all with your tips and donations. Tip if you feel, but the blame isn't on paying customers choosing not to tip more, it's on businesses who actively work to keep workers earning less.

Having previously worked in food service long ago, and still knowing people in the industry, it's a double-edged sword.  On one hand, yes you are right, they are to be "trued up" if they didn't make at least minimum wage during a pay period when factoring in tips.  But there are rampant shenanigans here as well, let's say one night you get $100 in tips and then the next night you get $5 total in tips.   What should happen versus what does happen - varies quite a bit.  And it shouldn't.

 

There are multiple layers to this, look at what happens with restaurants that pay a flat rate where tipping is not expected.  They generally lose their best waitstaff, who to your point, can make more elsewhere.

 

I do agree that we shouldn't obfuscate true costs through subsidies.  It's a mess, for sure.  I just don't want the average working person's life harder.  I vote with my wallet by not supporting shitty employers when I can.



#48694 jmarano7836   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   361 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

jmarano7836

Posted 12 November 2021 - 02:18 AM

This is somewhat misleading. No tipped wage worker should be making under the federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour under the Fair Labor Standards Act. If the tipped wage worker doesn't make at least minimum wage after their hourly tipped wage (lowest being $2.13/hour) + tips, their employer has to pay the difference.

Biggest problem with that is the million dollar industry of wage theft where employers lie about how much you made in tips so they can avoid paying that difference, and since there is no paper trail for your cash tips, it's their word against yours. Also doesn't help the other million dollar tax fraud and tax evasion done by tipped workers who report less than their cash earnings to avoid paying the same amount of taxes that any other person has to pay but can't lie to get out of.

Most of these issues could be solved by removing the tipped wage and making all workers make at least minimum wage. They could still receive tips but be guaranteed, at all times, a base wage that doesn't put them below the poverty line. But servers and tipped workers think this current method is helping them. Which is ironic seeing as most tipped wage workers can barely afford rent but lobbying to place blame on customers instead of laws and the industry has been very effective.

They are getting fucked though, but only because tipping exist. The law wouldn't even be here if tipping wasn't expected. Employers would be forced to pay workers more and wouldn't have these loop holes to steal from them. But the restaurant business and industry spends millions a year to keep the tip wage low, minimum wage low and these loop holes here to stay, and they do it all with your tips and donations. Tip if you feel, but the blame isn't on paying customers choosing not to tip more, it's on businesses who actively work to keep workers earning less.


I agree with some of the thoughts and comments here but also think the system is set up to be just gray enough to hose the employees and defend their position of not tipping minimum wage and should vs actuality usually errs to corporation. I also think it’s been so engrained/entrenched the only overhaul at this point would to adopt wide sweeping laws for living wages but like you said - would never fly since corporations spend millions to keep it that way.
- for example, while waiting tables, I got to work Saturday mornings which included mandatory cleaning 9-11 before we opened and no customers were present. I.e min wage of 2.13 in my state at that time,I asked for minimum wage but they said I’d average above that in the day to clean a restaurant.while it should balance out and me making more than $7 an hour , is that before or after I had to tip out bus boy and bartenders too? Usually you have to give them a percentage of your tips too(2%, 5%, etc).
- I also had a few tables of young teenagers who ordered fries, sodas, and dine/dashed because we had no hostess and had to cover that expense, manager wouldn’t override and blamed me while waiting on other tables. (They we’re kids- it was fries and fountain soda. I didn’t care but dumb ruling)
-I agree with your later arguments too and saw that when I lived in Switzerland short term, like other EU countries, a server has a base salary too to live off of and had living wages for their work. Something like that might help overall but also US is not set up that way and we want everything to be convenient, available and cheap.
-TIP was also rooted in To Insure Promptness in English tea houses so that you got your shit fast and efficiently before the next lad did. Just another anecdote of its history

In summary, at least tip the people a thank you or appreciation when you can and if you can afford to give them a decent tip, even better. And for the people handing you your food and bagging your stuff up; even a buck is a thank you that can equate to a lot. That’s it. Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk

#48695 Chokingduck  

Chokingduck

Posted 12 November 2021 - 02:19 AM

This is somewhat misleading. No tipped wage worker should be making under the federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour under the Fair Labor Standards Act. If the tipped wage worker doesn't make at least minimum wage after their hourly tipped wage (lowest being $2.13/hour) + tips, their employer has to pay the difference.

 

Biggest problem with that is the million dollar industry of wage theft where employers lie about how much you made in tips so they can avoid paying that difference, and since there is no paper trail for your cash tips, it's their word against yours. Also doesn't help the other million dollar tax fraud and tax evasion done by tipped workers who report less than their cash earnings to avoid paying the same amount of taxes that any other person has to pay but can't lie to get out of.

 

Most of these issues could be solved by removing the tipped wage and making all workers make at least minimum wage. They could still receive tips but be guaranteed, at all times, a base wage that doesn't put them below the poverty line. But servers and tipped workers think this current method is helping them. Which is ironic seeing as most tipped wage workers can barely afford rent but lobbying to place blame on customers instead of laws and the industry has been very effective.

 

They are getting fucked though, but only because tipping exist. The law wouldn't even be here if tipping wasn't expected. Employers would be forced to pay workers more and wouldn't have these loop holes to steal from them. But the restaurant business and industry spends millions a year to keep the tip wage low, minimum wage low and these loop holes here to stay, and they do it all with your tips and donations. Tip if you feel, but the blame isn't on paying customers choosing not to tip more, it's on businesses who actively work to keep workers earning less.

Having previously worked in food service long ago, and still knowing people in the industry, it's a double-edged sword.  On one hand, yes you are right, they are to be "trued up" if they didn't make at least minimum wage during a pay period when factoring in tips.  But there are rampant shenanigans here as well, let's say one night you get $100 in tips and then the next night you get $5 total in tips.   What should happen versus what does happen - varies quite a bit.  And it shouldn't.

 

There are multiple layers to this, look at what happens with restaurants that pay a flat rate where tipping is not expected.  They generally lose their best waitstaff, who to your point, can make more elsewhere.

 

I do agree that we shouldn't obfuscate true costs through subsidies.  It's a mess, for sure.  I just don't want the average working person's life harder.  I vote with my wallet by not supporting shitty employers when I can.



#48696 kraftwerks   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1396 Posts   Joined 19.1 Years Ago  

kraftwerks

Posted 12 November 2021 - 02:22 AM

I’m with TOGW. It’s not my job to make sure the wait staff is making enough to cover their bills, same as it isn't my customer’s job to make sure I am. Charge me more for my plate of food, and pay your staff. (But the wait staff doesnt really want the guaranteed hourly wage, they want the tips because they know that overall they do better the way it is now.)

#48697 shadowysea07   Cjenvy I'm ready for you awd this time I'm wearing pants CAGiversary!   7931 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

shadowysea07

Posted 12 November 2021 - 02:33 AM

I agree with not tipping at a fast food restaurant, but the question asked was in regards to tipping a driver that is delivering an item to you.  Do you not tip a pizza delivery driver?


Considering that you are paying for delivery no I don't think a tip is warranted.

#48698 ThatOneGuyWho   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   7282 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

ThatOneGuyWho

Posted 12 November 2021 - 02:33 AM

is that before or after I had to tip out bus boy and bartenders too? Usually you have to give them a percentage of your tips too(2%, 5%, etc).

I agree with your entire points. It's complicated and there is room for improvement, which isn't likely to happen as people feel guilted to tip and the industry heavily lobbies to keep laws exactly how they are.

 

But I do want to point out that tip out should be illegal too but won't be as you agreed to it. An employer doesn't have to share your tips with others, but you signed a contract allowing them to spread your money to others. Most will say they wouldn't have the job if they didn't, which is true, but hard to complain about such things when servers agree to having their money divided for others, instead of employers just paying back of house staff better wages. But why do that when they can take your money to do so.

 

I also had a few tables of young teenagers who ordered fries, sodas, and dine/dashed because we had no hostess and had to cover that expense
This one is a bit more complicated. It actually isn't your responsibility to pay for people who dine and dash, but employers again guilt you, the worker, into thinking it's your fault and charge you for it. Which it isn't legal to charge servers for this (if that charge doesn't make the employer earn under minimum wage that is, some states are an outright no though), but people rather keep their low paying jobs and blame other customers instead of management or the dine and dashers. 
 
There are resources out there to complain about such things too, like contacting the Department of Labor, but again, employers have successfully changed the culture of servers, tipping and blame to be away from them and on customers and employees, so very few people complain about these practices.


#48699 beenaround  

beenaround

Posted 12 November 2021 - 02:40 AM

Oh sweet jesus the old tipping debate in the Gamestop thread. Robots can't proliferate fast enough in unskilled jobs....



#48700 WeaponX2099   All Caps when you remember the man's name CAGiversary!   5797 Posts   Joined 19.2 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 03:31 AM

what are the odds that tomorrow shin megani V is buy 2 get 1 free?



#48701 htoxad   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   16 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 03:36 AM

what are the odds that tomorrow shin megani V is buy 2 get 1 free?

If you can add preowned to your cart it should be. I am skeptical of the supply and how long they'd leave an order hanging.



#48702 WeaponX2099   All Caps when you remember the man's name CAGiversary!   5797 Posts   Joined 19.2 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 03:39 AM

If you can add preowned to your cart it should be. I am skeptical of the supply and how long they'd leave an order hanging.

There is a new B2G1



#48703 Davem   Picture was the top google result for my username CAGiversary!   1351 Posts   Joined 3.6 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 04:01 AM

Not sure if it was just my stores, but I was told most Gamestops are now putting most of the current gen systems traded-in and certain pre-owned games on indefinite hold in preparation for the holiday season. I can only guess there will will try and stock some type of pre-owned system bundles to sell all the desperate grandparents who can't find those PS5/XBSXs.  :oldman:



#48704 fantomgamer   Master Poster CAGiversary!   364 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

fantomgamer

Posted 12 November 2021 - 04:06 AM

Off topic but anyone know what happens to your $5 monthly reward if you return the game you used it on? Does the original reward still work or is it lost?

#48705 I'm Old Now   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   246 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

I'm Old Now

Posted 12 November 2021 - 04:09 AM

Off topic but anyone know what happens to your $5 monthly reward if you return the game you used it on? Does the original reward still work or is it lost?

Its lost if you return the purchase



#48706 Artistic  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 04:13 AM

I can't access my PowerUp Rewards account on the mobile app or online.  Does anyone know if I can redeem the points on my account in store?  

CS is giving me the option to make a new account with a new email, but rather not do that in case something like this happens again.  Don't really shop at GameStop often, as Best Buy is my preferred option, but those monthly $5 rewards are clutch.



#48707 Accidie  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 04:17 AM

Paypal gave me $10 off my next purchase so I caved and bought Blue Reflection: Second Light, Mary Skelter Finale, and The Caligula Effect 2 in the B2G1 free deal. All for PS4 and all in new condition(hopefully). I forgot to use my monthly cert on it though. The cert probably would not have worked.



#48708 Artistic  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 04:20 AM

Not sure if it was just my stores, but I was told most Gamestops are now putting most of the current gen systems traded-in and certain pre-owned games on indefinite hold in preparation for the holiday season. I can only guess there will will try and stock some type of pre-owned system bundles to sell all the desperate grandparents who can't find those PS5/XBSXs.  :oldman:

Makes no difference really.  Rather it go to them then a scalper.



#48709 jack987   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   63 Posts   Joined 17.2 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 04:32 AM

Hey can anyone confirm if cashiers can view my online or instore purchase history when they pull up my account instore?



#48710 Jodou   Infamous CAGiversary!   16368 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 05:15 AM

Boy, according to Gamestop's website, I slept past Thanksgiving and most of December as it's telling me I can order last minute Christmas gifts.

Honestly, I was at Target tonight and the toy shelves are already starting to look bare. Lots of moms with their kids picking stuff out too. Felt like it was the day after Christmas Day TBH. So weird.



#48711 CartCollector   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   408 Posts   Joined 19.6 Years Ago  

CartCollector

Posted 12 November 2021 - 07:36 AM

Hmm... when I used the link posted over at slickdeals, I saw a LOT more Switch games as part of the b2g1 promo than I saw when using a similar link here.  Maybe I just had bad timing? 

 

There's a lot of first party stuff listed, but nothing I'm picking up yet.

 

https://www.gamestop...w&tileView=list



#48712 deserter280  

deserter280

Posted 12 November 2021 - 07:57 AM

Hmm... when I used the link posted over at slickdeals, I saw a LOT more Switch games as part of the b2g1 promo than I saw when using a similar link here. Maybe I just had bad timing?

There's a lot of first party stuff listed, but nothing I'm picking up yet.

https://www.gamestop...w&tileView=list


They've been updating the eligibility. For example, a couple hours ago the Ubisoft titles (WD, AC, Immortals, etc.) weren't eligible new but now are. Still am not seeing anything really worth it with everything being full price.

#48713 Naruto Uzumaki   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   669 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Naruto Uzumaki

Posted 12 November 2021 - 08:07 AM

Hey can anyone confirm if cashiers can view my online or instore purchase history when they pull up my account instore?


Gamestop can view your last FIVE purchases when you give them the number to your account. Online or in store. The employee turned his point of sale monitor around and showed me my last five purchases.

#48714 Davem   Picture was the top google result for my username CAGiversary!   1351 Posts   Joined 3.6 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 10:34 AM

Gamestop can view your last FIVE purchases when you give them the number to your account. Online or in store. The employee turned his point of sale monitor around and showed me my last five purchases.

I guess along those lines - can they see your last 5 trade-ins as well?  O:)



#48715 ritchardf  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 11:45 AM

Hmm... when I used the link posted over at slickdeals, I saw a LOT more Switch games as part of the b2g1 promo than I saw when using a similar link here.  Maybe I just had bad timing? 

 

There's a lot of first party stuff listed, but nothing I'm picking up yet.

 

https://www.gamestop...w&tileView=list

you are mixing new and used, the link you used from here was probably for the new games, which is far more limited for nintendo switch games.



#48716 Volitar Prime   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   315 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

Volitar Prime

Posted 12 November 2021 - 11:51 AM

For this buy 2 get 1 used sale, how do they show up on your order receipt?  Do they show 2 games at full price and 1 free or do they pro-rate the discount across all of them?  I ask because I anticipate having to return at least 1 game for various reasons and don't want to end up getting screwed if it happens to be the "free" one.



#48717 ritchardf  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 12:10 PM

Shin Megami Tensei V is available for buy 2 get 1 free new



#48718 izembo  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 12:32 PM

For this buy 2 get 1 used sale, how do they show up on your order receipt?  Do they show 2 games at full price and 1 free or do they pro-rate the discount across all of them?  I ask because I anticipate having to return at least 1 game for various reasons and don't want to end up getting screwed if it happens to be the "free" one.

2 full, 1 free.  if you return any you have to pay full price for the other 2.



#48719 izembo  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 12:33 PM

I guess along those lines - can they see your last 5 trade-ins as well?  O:)

haha no.  they can't see trade-ins.

 

That being said just to clarify, it's the last 5 items purchased, not the last 5 purchases(transactions).   also game + GPG counts as 2 items in that 5 purchase list.

 

additionally if they want to, yes they can also search on the web system for your online orders and see ALL of those, not limited to recent.



#48720 pbfluff   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1061 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 12 November 2021 - 12:45 PM

anyone have any luck getting 3 used cod vanguard ps5  your local store? was it G2L? thanks!