collectingassgamers is still cagWe can also try and go through the games we already own instead of buying more crap, but this isn't the site to think like that
#62
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 02:43 PM
I am wondering if usb controllers will work on this thing. If so, nice 6 button Genesis controllers are readily available. Then you also know 8bitdo will make their beautiful 6 button wireless Genesis controller compatible. I have one that semi works for my SNES classic that I may or may not already be playing Genesis games on.
#64
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:08 PM
I went ahead and preordered on Amazon just in case. No reason not to since they don't even do a pending charge(beyond a $1 sometimes I've noticed). With M2 doing this, I'm pretty confident it will be good.
Not bothered by the lack of 6-button controllers really, as they are only needed for fighting games.
#65
The Kaiser
Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:45 PM
Sega has M2 doing emulation so there is no reason why this should turn out like PS Classic or the ATgames Genesis consoles.
Yes, this is what inspires confidence in me. When this was under ATGames purview, I couldn't have cared less, and was ready for a hard pass. ATGames is known for making low-quality, low-effort knock-offs. I have no interest in their work.
But when Sega announced that they had pushed back the release, fired ATGames, and brought M2 on board, that changed everything. Now I'm much more optimistic about the Sega Genesis Mini. M2 are THE house to go to for classic retro collections and high-quality emulation. Not only that, but they have worked on Sega's classic collections before, so they are already well acquainted with a lot of this work. Their efforts in the past usually involve very complete releases with tons of great extras, and rock-solid accurate emulation. With M2 behind the wheel I can rest easy that the software on this Genesis Mini is going to be great, with no corners cut.
The initial game line-up is encouraging, if not overly ambitious. Gunstar and Bloodlines are welcome 3rd party entries, a good start on that front. And having Comix Zone and Toe Jam and Earl on board shows that Sega isn't afraid of dipping into some of their lesser-known but still high-quality first-party titles. I could have done without Altered Beast, but I understand why it's there.
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#66
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Posted 01 April 2019 - 05:51 PM
I went ahead and preordered on Amazon just in case. No reason not to since they don't even do a pending charge(beyond a $1 sometimes I've noticed). With M2 doing this, I'm pretty confident it will be good.
Not bothered by the lack of 6-button controllers really, as they are only needed for fighting games.
One can always cancel a preorder so no reason not to. I see the box art has T rating so sad to see no Mortal Kombat II. I suppose they could do Eternal Champions, but that would benefit from the 6 button controller.
#67
The Kaiser
Posted 02 April 2019 - 11:16 PM
For those concerned about only having 3 buttons, I would direct your attention to the fact that this thing appears to have USB ports on the front. Not only is it likely that existing USB controllers will work on it, but I would be willing to bet that the 6-button Japanese variant controllers get a release here in the U.S. (sold separately, of course) You might end up having to pay extra for your 3 extra buttons, but they will be available.
Of course, 8bitdo fans such as myself have nothing to worry about. I already have the 8bitdo USB adapter, so I'll be able to plug that in day 1 and be able to pair up any and all wireless bluetooth controllers that I own.
I'm interested to see the rest of the line-up for this thing. The first ten games are predictable, but with a few slight surprises. Castlevania: Bloodlines in particular is a deep cut that will please a lot of fans, as it is actually pretty rare to see it come out in compilations. Having the M2 treatment on that game is a good get. Gunstar Heroes is painfully obvious, but also extremely welcome. It is the one title that classic Genesis fans ALWAYS clamor for, so having it in the initial ten is going to help inspire confidence.
The rest of the titles are predominantly in-house Sega efforts, but a reasonable cross-section of the Genesis' library. It will be interesting to see if we get any sports games on the system, as those tend to have licensing issues. If the licensing ends up being too much, Mutant League Football would be a good choice. I'm also wondering if Sega will be able retrain themselves from adding ALL of the Sonic titles. They have 30 more slots to fill, but the Genesis was a fairly well-supported system. There is plenty of material to choose from.
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#68
Posted 03 April 2019 - 12:14 AM
I went ahead and preordered on Amazon just in case. No reason not to since they don't even do a pending charge(beyond a $1 sometimes I've noticed). With M2 doing this, I'm pretty confident it will be good.
Not bothered by the lack of 6-button controllers really, as they are only needed for fighting games.
At 80 dollars I did the same.
I still wish it had the 6 button controller though, I like the feel of it better.
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#69
CAG Veteran
Posted 03 April 2019 - 12:23 AM
I definitely think it should be packing the 6-button controllers, and "it's USB" doesn't matter. We're talking about getting it right out of the box.
I will say that it's convenient Retro-Bit's new controllers are just out and apparently (surprisingly) very good. They have 10-foot cables, and given that none of these classic consoles have cables worth a damn, they're going to be natural replacements.
#70
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 12:25 AM
Yeah but I don't want to pay extra for the 6 button pads, it also shows that these other 30 games in the US aren't going to be any of the ones that use them. So I'm guessing Japan might get the SF II port, and no Mortal Kombat II here even though that was going to be a giant longshot.
#72
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 01:13 AM
Pretty much all fighters, with some late in life exceptions, like shifting in Virtua Racing I think. I'm with the camp they just feel a 100x better than the regular Sega 3 button, in fact one of the better feeling game pads ever before analog sticks came out, imho. Kind of why I think the Saturn and even the Street Fighter IV fight pads were pretty much modeled off them. Looks like a list here, nothing mind blowing.
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#76
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 02:51 AM
Also says cant cancel order if you place one.
Odd that they are doing that, but understandable, as they don't want to end up with way more stock than anticipated due to cancelled pre-orders. The Yen vs the dollar could change quite a bit between now and September as well, although Amazon JP usually tries to adjust for that for NA customers. The good thing is that Japanese versions of these mini consoles have not been hard to get after release. I will get one, but wait until around release.
#77
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 09:51 AM
I preordered looks like it will be top notch quality Sega needs to put plenty of good games that are not readily available on their many collection discs. Castlevania bloodlines is a start contra hard corps, rocket knight adventure, musha to name a few would differentiate it from their collection discs make it must own.
#78
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 04:30 PM
I preordered looks like it will be top notch quality Sega needs to put plenty of good games that are not readily available on their many collection discs. Castlevania bloodlines is a start contra hard corps, rocket knight adventure, musha to name a few would differentiate it from their collection discs make it must own.
This is absolutely true. Castlevania is definitely one that made me take notice, you never see that in their compilations (in fact they don't do a lot of 3rd party published games in them). They need to get a good variety, I'd love to see Air Buster and/or Gaiares as they were stellar shooters. Contra would also be a plus, and maybe some other quality somewhat obscure choices. They need to of course have the basics, Sonic 1&2 (don't expect Sonic 3 due to licensing issues with Michael Jackson, or really any licensed games like Moonwalker or Batman) and some others that they need to get mass market appeal. Forty slots gives you lots of room to add some not so usual suspects, I'd hope ten or so would be this sort of title - then it would be a no brainer considering M2 is doing it.
And what would be really cool is if M2 were to add some of their usual flair to a few of the bigger ones, like they did for the 3ds games (extra levels/modes/etc.). But that is highly unlikely for a "classic" mini console.
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#79
Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:31 AM
I preordered looks like it will be top notch quality Sega needs to put plenty of good games that are not readily available on their many collection discs. Castlevania bloodlines is a start contra hard corps, rocket knight adventure, musha to name a few would differentiate it from their collection discs make it must own.
I'm hoping for ghouls n ghosts as the genesis one was my favorite, shadowrun, and other oddball classics. Oh and NO SPORTS GAMES
#81
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Posted 04 April 2019 - 02:02 AM
if only we could hook up a little mini Sega CD to it
As cheap as flash memory is these days they could actually include Sega CD games if they wanted. An uncompressed ISO would be only about 650 MB, and even if they went cheap and used 32GB like Nintendo did you could easily make a dozen or so of the 40 Sega CD games and still have tons of space leftover. That is if you can find a dozen or so Sega CD games that are worth including that aren't just cartridge games with CD audio.
#82
CAG in Training
Posted 04 April 2019 - 02:07 AM
Pretty much all fighters, with some late in life exceptions, like shifting in Virtua Racing I think. I'm with the camp they just feel a 100x better than the regular Sega 3 button, in fact one of the better feeling game pads ever before analog sticks came out, imho. Kind of why I think the Saturn and even the Street Fighter IV fight pads were pretty much modeled off them. Looks like a list here, nothing mind blowing.
Wow, I miss when quality first party controllers were $20.
#85
i'll buy that for a dolla
Posted 04 April 2019 - 04:56 AM
Nintendo has been the only company to do these kinds of devices justice. I'll wait until the reviews come in.
Is this another AtGames repackaging?
the neo geo mini isn't bad. It's overpriced for what it is, but it isn't bad. I wish I had waited, I'm guessing it will be 50 bucks eventually.
