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#2881 shadowysea07   Cjenvy I'm ready for you awd this time I'm wearing pants CAGiversary!   4966 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago  

shadowysea07

Posted 10 January 2020 - 05:20 AM

What could they give away that no one may have just bought? ...Goat Simulator?

The problem is that the two complaints - not giving away great games and giving away games people already have - are contradictory. The more popular a game is, the more likely people are to already have it, because it's popular. Then they offer less popular or indie games, and people bemoan the lack of quality titles. I remember the same thing happening with Club Nintendo years ago, when they started offering game downloads.

I agree with this to an extent.  But now that they offer fewer games there's even less of a chance of people not owning whatever games it is that is free for that month.  And they could at least offer the dlc with whatever free games they do since that would be something most people are not going to already have as far fewer people buy dlc.  Though even with the most popular games sony could put on psn not everyone is going to own them given that most games barely sell a fraction of how many owned systems there are from what I understand.



#2882 jsivley   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1102 Posts   Joined 11.4 Years Ago  

Posted 10 January 2020 - 06:05 AM

They could at least refrain from making the plus games something that has been included as a digital code in ps4 console bundles. I know that’s how I got my digital copy of the Nathan Drake Collection.

#2883 ProfessorStotch   Banned CAGiversary!   13675 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

ProfessorStotch

Posted 10 January 2020 - 12:37 PM

They should go back to giving us $60 games on day one.

#2884 defpally   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1986 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

defpally

Posted 10 January 2020 - 12:51 PM

I agree with this to an extent.  But now that they offer fewer games there's even less of a chance of people not owning whatever games it is that is free for that month.  And they could at least offer the dlc with whatever free games they do since that would be something most people are not going to already have as far fewer people buy dlc.  Though even with the most popular games sony could put on psn not everyone is going to own them given that most games barely sell a fraction of how many owned systems there are from what I understand.

They don't give the DLC because often the game is being given away to juice sales of DLC, which people will be more likely to want given they have access to the game now.  DLC often holds its price point for longer than the game itself.  Giving away the game and generate some extra sales of $10-20 DLC from people that would have otherwise not bought any of it is not a bad plan.



#2885 flooderdooden  

flooderdooden

Posted 10 January 2020 - 02:03 PM

I know this would never happen, but sometimes I wish that Sony would just figure out what the average per month ‘cost’ is for the ‘free’ games, and then just give me an equivalent monthly coupon/credit to use as I wish on the game of my choice. Honestly, almost every month I check the game announcement post on the PS Blog, and see the complaints from people who either already have the games being given or those who hate the choices Sony made. In that way, if Sony were smart, they would go to something like a Twitch Prime model, where people could then use their credit/discount as they wish on an item (or two) of their choice. Some would go for discounts on the AAA games, while others would lean towards digital-only, indie titles.

Long story short, give consumers choice, and they’re more likely to apply their credit/discounts towards purchases that keep them in the PlayStation ecosystem longer going forward. And I’m guessing Sony would hear far fewer complaints, and perhaps even build up some gamer goodwill that seems to have been lacking lately, when compared against Microsoft.

#2886 ritchardf  

Posted 10 January 2020 - 02:12 PM

I know this would never happen, but sometimes I wish that Sony would just figure out what the average per month ‘cost’ is for the ‘free’ games, and then just give me an equivalent monthly coupon/credit to use as I wish on the game of my choice. Honestly, almost every month I check the game announcement post on the PS Blog, and see the complaints from people who either already have the games being given or those who hate the choices Sony made. In that way, if Sony were smart, they would go to something like a Twitch Prime model, where people could then use their credit/discount as they wish on an item (or two) of their choice. Some would go for discounts on the AAA games, while others would lean towards digital-only, indie titles.

Long story short, give consumers choice, and they’re more likely to apply their credit/discounts towards purchases that keep them in the PlayStation ecosystem longer going forward. And I’m guessing Sony would hear far fewer complaints, and perhaps even build up some gamer goodwill that seems to have been lacking lately, when compared against Microsoft.

twitch prime is subsidized by amazon, xbox gamepass is subsidized by microsoft, sony has nothing else going for it to subsidize something like this. trust me, when all you crying about sony not bending over backwards for you go to xbox and they get on equal footing or even the lead next gen, all that "goodwill" microsoft is giving out now will dry up. i mean, damn, ps plus has been sub $40 for the past couple weeks in multiple places, how much of that do you want back?



#2887 flooderdooden  

flooderdooden

Posted 10 January 2020 - 02:22 PM

twitch prime is subsidized by amazon, xbox gamepass is subsidized by microsoft, sony has nothing else going for it to subsidize something like this. trust me, when all you crying about sony not bending over backwards for you go to xbox and they get on equal footing or even the lead next gen, all that "goodwill" microsoft is giving out now will dry up. i mean, damn, ps plus has been sub $40 for the past couple weeks in multiple places, how much of that do you want back?


Honestly, if Sony leaned more into providing more/deeper discounts with PS+ as opposed to giving away monthly games, I suspect they would make more money over the long term. And all things being equal, that would be my preference. I only offered the original suggestion because I don’t think they could get away with taking away the ‘free’ games benefit cold turkey without taking a major PR hit (which they don’t want/need to do, with the new generation around the corner). But honestly, I have a hard time thinking that those managing that aspect of PS+ don’t see the process as a monthly headache, especially as it seems like a thankless/no-win scenario. I’m just trying to figure out a solution where both sides can see it more as win-win, instead of the community splintering into those who are dissatisfied and those typified by your post/response. Perhaps you can’t please everyone though...

#2888 Onyxmeth   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   435 Posts   Joined 10.5 Years Ago  

Onyxmeth

Posted 10 January 2020 - 02:39 PM

I know this would never happen, but sometimes I wish that Sony would just figure out what the average per month ‘cost’ is for the ‘free’ games, and then just give me an equivalent monthly coupon/credit to use as I wish on the game of my choice. Honestly, almost every month I check the game announcement post on the PS Blog, and see the complaints from people who either already have the games being given or those who hate the choices Sony made. In that way, if Sony were smart, they would go to something like a Twitch Prime model, where people could then use their credit/discount as they wish on an item (or two) of their choice. Some would go for discounts on the AAA games, while others would lean towards digital-only, indie titles.

Long story short, give consumers choice, and they’re more likely to apply their credit/discounts towards purchases that keep them in the PlayStation ecosystem longer going forward. And I’m guessing Sony would hear far fewer complaints, and perhaps even build up some gamer goodwill that seems to have been lacking lately, when compared against Microsoft.

I think the only problem is that you’re probably imagining that monthly cost per person to be a number that would entice people as an alternative, when it’s likely no more than $2, and I’m probably being very generous.

#2889 trinken wir   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   306 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago  

trinken wir

Posted 10 January 2020 - 03:17 PM

I think the only problem is that you’re probably imagining that monthly cost per person to be a number that would entice people as an alternative, when it’s likely no more than $2, and I’m probably being very generous.


There are 36 million subscribers and there is no way they are shelling out anywhere close to 2 bucks per subscriber per month. It would be a few cents per person. 10 cents would be 3.6 million dollars split two ways.

#2890 Onyxmeth   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   435 Posts   Joined 10.5 Years Ago  

Onyxmeth

Posted 10 January 2020 - 03:37 PM

There are 36 million subscribers and there is no way they are shelling out anywhere close to 2 bucks per subscriber per month. It would be a few cents per person. 10 cents would be 3.6 million dollars split two ways.


I mostly agree with you. I did say I was being generous. The only thing I contend is that 36 million subscribers number is probably being juiced up by Sony.

#2891 trinken wir   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   306 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago  

trinken wir

Posted 10 January 2020 - 04:03 PM

I mostly agree with you. I did say I was being generous. The only thing I contend is that 36 million subscribers number is probably being juiced up by Sony.


Not meant as an attack, just furthering your point that the refund or discount they would offer in lieu of "free" games would be peanuts. Sony is publically traded so I doubt they could get away with totally cooking the books outside of something like using number of subscription during the year (active plus lapsed subscriptions) rather than just active subscriptions.

My next question is what percentage does Sony take off the top for digital content. Goat Simulator sold 2.5 million copies and is reported to have made 12 million both as of 2016. ~$4.80 per unit for a $10 game (not accounting for dlc). I would guess Sony gets 30-35% of the digital sales price. Traditional retail makes ~25% on games after distribution channels so that would roughly make sense.

#2892 Onyxmeth   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   435 Posts   Joined 10.5 Years Ago  

Onyxmeth

Posted 10 January 2020 - 04:29 PM

Not meant as an attack, just furthering your point that the refund or discount they would offer in lieu of "free" games would be peanuts. Sony is publically traded so I doubt they could get away with totally cooking the books outside of something like using number of subscription during the year (active plus lapsed subscriptions) rather than just active subscriptions.

My next question is what percentage does Sony take off the top for digital content. Goat Simulator sold 2.5 million copies and is reported to have made 12 million both as of 2016. ~$4.80 per unit for a $10 game (not accounting for dlc). I would guess Sony gets 30-35% of the digital sales price. Traditional retail makes ~25% on games after distribution channels so that would roughly make sense.

It’s most likely just a check upfront. $2M to the publisher of Goat Simulator, or whatever we each think the number could be. Anything else seems needlessly complicated. Supposedly there was a documentary with the guys behind Rocket League and they may have spilled a bean or two when talking about the PS Plus deal that kicked them off, and it was an upfront payment.

#2893 Jodou   Infamous CAGiversary!   14798 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 10 January 2020 - 06:26 PM

Seriously, they could at least make it look like they were trying.... also feel bad for anyone that just opened a PS4 and bought Uncharted that game.  Goat Sim?...why?  How do they even pick these games?

Lol it just occurred to me: wasn't Uncharted one of the pack-ins for the holiday bundle? I mean JFC Sony. . .



#2894 Z-Saber   moon2S CAGiversary!   6553 Posts   Joined 15.0 Years Ago  

Posted 10 January 2020 - 06:34 PM

They should go back to giving us $60 games on day one.

Like GamePass does?

#2895 Jodou   Infamous CAGiversary!   14798 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 10 January 2020 - 06:34 PM

I know this would never happen, but sometimes I wish that Sony would just figure out what the average per month ‘cost’ is for the ‘free’ games, and then just give me an equivalent monthly coupon/credit to use as I wish on the game of my choice. Honestly, almost every month I check the game announcement post on the PS Blog, and see the complaints from people who either already have the games being given or those who hate the choices Sony made. In that way, if Sony were smart, they would go to something like a Twitch Prime model, where people could then use their credit/discount as they wish on an item (or two) of their choice. Some would go for discounts on the AAA games, while others would lean towards digital-only, indie titles.

Long story short, give consumers choice, and they’re more likely to apply their credit/discounts towards purchases that keep them in the PlayStation ecosystem longer going forward. And I’m guessing Sony would hear far fewer complaints, and perhaps even build up some gamer goodwill that seems to have been lacking lately, when compared against Microsoft.

People would sell their codes; opens a whole can of worms. The way it's set up now they don't have to offer jack shit and some people who have subs don't even bother spending time claiming their free games. I don't understand it myself but even the fiancee doesn't because she can't be fussed if she doesn't care about the game. Although, it makes sense given I have played MAYBE 1-2 of the free PS+ games I've claimed in the last decade. The whole system just needs to be abandoned TBH because it's trash.



#2896 Jodou   Infamous CAGiversary!   14798 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 10 January 2020 - 06:41 PM

Like GamePass does?

This right here is what is going to contend with PS5 exclusives. Sony is just resting on their laurels again producing the same fucking proven formula games over and over and people eat it up. Will that bubble ever burst? I hope so, but realistically all they'd have to do is continue the sequel train for a generation or two and they will still do well. COD is the biggest example of license to print money so I'd see no reason for them to stop now.

 

GPU provides real value and concerns of unsustainable business model have been reassured from Phil himself, so I'm rooting for them. It's already the talk of the industry and turning heads, so 2020 is going to be an excellent kick-off to a real console war again.



#2897 ProfessorStotch   Banned CAGiversary!   13675 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

ProfessorStotch

Posted 11 January 2020 - 03:05 AM

They should give us PS Plus Elite for $100 a year but you get a coupon for $5 off the PSN store every month.

#2898 Moofboy   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   454 Posts   Joined 7.4 Years Ago  

Posted 11 January 2020 - 04:08 AM

They should give us PS Plus Elite for $100 a year but you get a coupon for $5 off the PSN store every month.

Except they’d eventually raise the price and only credit you 2 dollars a month...

#2899 Navigator2001Plus  

Navigator2001Plus

Posted 11 January 2020 - 08:24 AM

They should give us PS Plus Elite for $100 a year but you get a coupon for $5 off the PSN store every month.

 

So you want to pay more upfront so they can slowly give you back the difference over the year in the form of $5 coupons? What kind of logic is this?



#2900 ProfessorStotch   Banned CAGiversary!   13675 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

ProfessorStotch

Posted 11 January 2020 - 08:56 AM

So you want to pay more upfront so they can slowly give you back the difference over the year in the form of $5 coupons? What kind of logic is this?


You're not thinking about it the right way. Since we're smart savers we'd be able go get the $100 sub for like $95 so we'll come out ahead!

#2901 Barry Burton   CAGiversary! Banned   1790 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Barry Burton

Posted 11 January 2020 - 10:40 AM

You're not thinking about it the right way. Since we're smart savers we'd be able go get the $100 sub for like $95 so we'll come out ahead!

smart savers LOL just about everybody here has a large backlog of games they bought but will never play



#2902 RiPPn  

Posted 11 January 2020 - 11:36 AM

smart savers LOL just about everybody here has a large backlog of games they bought but will never play

Yeah, but I'm going to get to them.. eventually. 



#2903 keyblader1985   Wait, what? CAGiversary!   3414 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

keyblader1985

Posted 11 January 2020 - 01:33 PM

Let's just hope our metaphorical glasses don't break..

#2904 Zantra  

Posted 11 January 2020 - 11:33 PM

Got an email today saying that if you log into DC Universe Online before January 31st, you get an item that makes one of your heroes the max level in the game for free. Because it's the game's 9th anniversary.

#2905 valiki7375  

valiki7375

Posted 12 January 2020 - 12:44 AM

I read the idea of $5 per month as a knock on GameStop and their new monthly idea for members...

Made me laugh

#2906 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   69619 Posts   Joined 16.4 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 12 January 2020 - 01:03 AM

I'm going to stream some Hades here in an hour, which is the new game from Supergiant Games (Bastion, Transistor, Pyre) that should be coming to consoles later this year.



#2907 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   69619 Posts   Joined 16.4 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 12 January 2020 - 01:33 AM

https://blog.us.play...anuary-14-2020/

 

The Drop for this week:

Atelier Dusk Trilogy Deluxe Pack
PS4 — Digital
 
The DX versions of the titles from the Dusk series are now available as a specially priced 3-game set! Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX, Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX, Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX. (Note: These titles are also available for individual purchase.)
 
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk DX
PS4 — Digital
 
The promise begins. A Dusk era has fallen upon this world many times, yet people have managed to survive and reclaim a meager livelihood thus far. Here, in a remote atelier, there was a lone girl making her living by making medicine. Her name is Ayesha. (Note: The full trilogy is also available as a bundle.)
 
Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky DX
PS4 — Digital
 
The promise is entrusted to two alchemists. This world has seen its fair share of Twilights, and is slowly nearing its end. There exists a nation that has prospered through its use of alchemy, devoting their every effort to rediscovering the lost alchemic technologies of the past. (Note: The full trilogy is also available as a bundle.)
 
Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX
PS4 — Digital
 
Water sources go dry. Plants wither and die. All creatures thirst and starve. The blue oceans turn to sand, and the life of the sea no longer has a place to call home. Yet still, the sun continues to shine, mercilessly drying up what little water remains in the earth. Slowly, but surely, everything fades away to nothing in this Dusk World. (Note: The full trilogy is also available as a bundle.)
 
Darwin Project
PS4 — Digital
 
Darwin Project is an outdoor, futuristic, battle royale style deathmatch with a strong emphasis on hunting, trapping, and survival. Not only will you be pitted against fierce rivals, but you’ll compete for the favor of an all-seeing Show Director.
 
Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot
PS4 — Digital (Out 1/17)
 
Relive the story of Goku and other Z Fighters in Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot! Beyond the epic battles, experience life in the Dragon Ball Z world as you fight, fish, eat, and train with Goku, Gohan, Vegeta and others. Explore the new areas and adventures as you advance through the story and form powerful bonds with other heroes from the Dragon Ball Z universe.
 
Eclipse: Edge of Light
PS VR, PS4 — Digital
 
Crash-landed on a sentient planet, you awake to discover a dreamscape world, filled with alien wonder and the remains of a betrayed civilization. You find a powerful relic that can interact with ancient technology and grant you near-magical powers. Can you rise to the challenge and solve the haunting riddle of this mysterious place?
 
Gravity Error
PS4 — Digital (Out 1/15)
 
Gravity Error is a 2D puzzle/platformer about changing gravity. Guide Force in his quest seeking emotional stableness in a set of levels and avoid being crushed. Solve the puzzles in multiple creative ways.
 
Hardcore Mecha
PS4 — Digital
 
HARDCORE MECHA is a 2D platformer action focusing on a better handling. The Campaign mode offers rich gameplay and seamless in-game cut-scenes for an immersive experience. Choose your favorite mecha in Multiplayer, experience the fast-paced hardcore competitive battle of steel!
 
Maitetsu: Pure Station
PS4 — Digital (Out 1/16)
 
Sotetsu woke up the RailRoad Hachiroku by accident and became her owner. For different purposes, they agreed to help find her lost locomotive, with the help of his stepsister Hibiki, the town’s mayor and local railway chief, Paulette and others.
 
Red Bow
PS4, PS Vita — Digital (Cross-Buy)
 
Red Bow is a top-down, creepy adventure game that sets players in the role of Roh, a young girl who gets trapped in a bizarre nightmare filled with creepy monsters! Roh finds herself trapped in a strange dark nightmare world. Help her realize what role she plays by exploring creepy environments.
 
Seek Hearts
PS4 — Digital
 
Set out on an adventure to discover Izen’s mysterious origins in a sci-fi RPG! With questions swirling about why he was created and by who, Izen sets out on a journey to discover his origins. However, as he and those with him pursue answers to this mystery, they fail to notice a shadow creeping up upon them…
 
Super Mega Space Blaster Special Turbo
PS4 — Digital
 
A modern take on the retro arcade shooter. Super Mega Space Blaster Special Turbo is a fast-paced frantic blast of a shoot ’em up (shmup) with loads to unlock and leaderboards to climb. Blast your way through five unique game modes in this easy-to-play, hard-to-master space blaster.
 
Track Mayhem
PS4 — Digital
 
Fly a spaceship inside and outside a hexagonal course in space. Move your ship left or right around the track or fly over to avoid crashing into obstacles. Collect coins and fire up a shield to blast ahead. Hit all the booster pads for extra speed and intensity!
 
Without Escape
PS4, PS Vita — Digital (Cross-Buy)
 

Without Escape is a tribute to first-person graphic adventures of the early ’90s with an interactive story told through pre-rendered background and full-motion video. Explore the confines of your own home as you flip between a mundane existence and a terrifying otherworld. Are you prepared to endure the horrors that await you?



#2908 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   69619 Posts   Joined 16.4 Years Ago  

FriskyTanuki

Posted 12 January 2020 - 02:03 AM

My Hades stream is now live (link).



#2909 elessar123  

Posted 13 January 2020 - 06:57 PM

I never imagined we'd get Maitetsu localized. But then again, it's the all ages version.

#2910 CrepeNuts  

CrepeNuts

Posted 14 January 2020 - 01:37 PM

Find out your year end stats and get a theme and avatars.

https://blog.us.play...19-gaming-year/