CAGcast #599: It’s a Frosty, Not a Turd

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The gang talks The Boys, GameStop, Ninja on Mixer, a cancelled PAX panel, Fortnite World Cup, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, and so much more!

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Intro - 3LAU - Walk Away feat. Luna Aura (3LAU Deep Mix)
Outro - Wendy's 1980 Commercial

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There really wasn't an incentive for anyone to go to GameStop during the height of Gamer's Club Unlocked, unless it was an out of print SKU. GameStop should have come up with their own program other than discounts on used games. I don't think the average gamer likes buying used games. Since JCPenney and Sears are also having financial trouble, do you guys think that they're having problems for different reasons, or it's all just people not wanting to deal with retail?

 
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Quick (multiple) takes on the podcast:

The Boys: How about a "spoiler-cast talk" at the end of the show when you get through all 8 episodes?

Inspector Gadget: Agree with Wombat 100%. As a kid, I was always bothered at how BAD Inspector Gadget was at life. He has ALL of the gadgets (including bombs and weapons)! How is he not dead from his own ineptitude?

Saving Gamestop: They missed opportunities to be a go-between sellers who want to sell to others (think eBay with a database). This way they are not having to have inventory and can take a cut for each sale.

Fortnite mom: Parents are too worried about violence and should me more worried about gambling mechanics.

 
Those character cut scenes in Marvel UA3 really take you out the scene. So bizarre.

Regarding PAX, it sucks that they'd use Colin's name to promote the show only to ditch him and fans excited for the event. Doesn't seem like PAX will refund anyone, Colin has been refunding fans out of his own pocket unfortunately.

 
Gamestop did sell digital games back in the day, but I think you had to buy them on their website then use a client called Impulse to launch them.  I do not believe you could buy games on the client, which is insane.  Their 20 year plan was pretty terrible.

I don't know if it was a national chain, but I had a place in southern NJ called Funcoland, essentially the same as Gamestop.  Gamestop bought it or the store, not sure which.  I loved Funcoland so much.

 
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The end of the show had me cracking up, and the Wendy's commercial was the icing on the Frosty. Nicely done to the editor for this.

 
Gamestop did sell digital games back in the day, but I think you had to buy them on their website then use a client called Impulse to launch them. I do not believe you could buy games on the client, which is insane. Their 20 year plan was pretty terrible.

I don't know if it was a national chain, but I had a place in southern NJ called Funcoland, essentially the same as Gamestop. Gamestop bought it or the store, not sure which. I loved Funcoland so much.
+1

 
Wombat joked about Gamestop going back in time to make eBay, but I'm wondering if you guys think that idea would work now. What if Gamestop just had an auction site where they handle everything, take their cut, and all the seller had to do was drop of the game at a store? Just to streamline everything, kind of like how Kohl's is now taking Amazon returns. 

 
Hey @shipwreck, I'm planning to build a house and want a baller projector and home theater setup. I could swear you posted some designs for your basement somewhere, but all I could find is your basement tour. The video is nice, but it's really the behind the scenes stuff I'm trying to plan for:

  • How did you plan for cabling needs, especially since you may need to switch out your projector or upgrade speakers etc? (I remember there is a tube? Maybe?
  • Did someone help you design this out or did you do it yourself?
Help a CAG out! (Please).

 
I hated inspector gadget for how terrible he was at inspecting but i loved you guys talking about it and Cheapy trying to talk like him. That was horrible and wonderful at the same time.

i thought it was pronounced 'EYE PEE" too, not IP, but google showed me the way Ip Man, also known as Yip Man

lots of fun this episode, thanks for the laughs!

 
Agreed. And PAX still won't give a reason as to why they canceled his panel. Pretty lame.

Colin is great. Best voice in the gaming industry. We need more content creators like him.
I too listen to their Sacred symbols podcast. It's a really fun and enjoyable podcast. The personal politics of Colin aside, it really doesn't come up, it's just a playstation centric podcast. I really don't get the fuss over them.

 
I too listen to their Sacred symbols podcast. It's a really fun and enjoyable podcast. The personal politics of Colin aside, it really doesn't come up, it's just a playstation centric podcast. I really don't get the fuss over them.
I've noticed that there's a weird anti-conservative bend in the industry these days.

Last year, I received PMs from 3 or 4 people telling me not to associate with (i.e., don't send review copies of my games to) this one indie game journalist. Saying he had horrible views or something. They linked me to tweets from the guy's personal Twitter account (which wasn't even associated with his review site).

The offenses committed in those tweets? He expressed his support for the president/his policies, and he made a couple of jokes these people found offensive. Edgy jokes for sure, but nothing worse than you can find in a Comedy Central stand-up act, so...

I'm not going to blacklist someone for their political views, or for making a raunchy joke, so yeah I didn't comply with their request.

 
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I've noticed that there's a weird anti-conservative bend in the industry these days.

Last year, I received PMs from 3 or 4 people telling me not to associate with (i.e., don't send review copies of my games to) this one indie game journalist. Saying he had horrible views or something. They linked me to tweets from the guy's personal Twitter account (which wasn't even associated with his review site).

The offenses committed in those tweets? He expressed his support for the president/his policies, and he made a couple of jokes these people found offensive. Edgy jokes for sure, but nothing worse than you can find in a Comedy Central stand-up act, so...

I'm not going to blacklist someone for their political views, or for making a raunchy joke, so yeah I didn't comply with their request.
I agree 100%. 99% of the people that talk poorly of Colin have never heard a word he has said. All they know is that they are "supposed" to hate him. It's a world of click bait headlines and that's all people read. It's especially true in the gaming press. People need to start thinking for themselves, and not take everything they read on Twitter as fact, it rarely is.

 
Good riddance to snek and his fellow guest. From what I heard about him, he regularly engages in low-level white supremacist dog whistling, and when confronted about it, he brings out charts about the amount of respect he has for Asian-Americans. Even without that, you have to wonder how he burned his bridges with IGN and Kinda Funny.

And I wonder how the hell do you get kicked off your own subreddit.

 
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Good riddance to snek and his fellow guest. From what I heard about him, he regularly engages in low-level white supremacist dog whistling, and when confronted about it, he brings out charts about the amount of respect he has for Asian-Americans. Even without that, you have to wonder how he burned his bridges with IGN and Kinda Funny.

And I wonder how the hell do you get kicked off your own subreddit.
You've heard some false rumours, if you listen to any podcast he's on where these topics come up he is clearly anti white supremacist. Sucks that people will create false stories about Colin just because he leans right politically. Makes several people in the industry seem blind.
And IDK about Kinda Funny, but everyone at IGN that worked with him still likes him just fine.

 
Colin just announced today that he's ending his podcast because of the threat of violence.  His staff was doxxed, his friend was doxxed, and now it's too dangerous to continue to do the show.

Think about that... threats of violence led to the end of a popular podcast, all because the host holds conservative political views.  Lame.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/extinguished-29116471

 
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Good riddance to snek and his fellow guest. From what I heard about him, he regularly engages in low-level white supremacist dog whistling, and when confronted about it, he brings out charts about the amount of respect he has for Asian-Americans. Even without that, you have to wonder how he burned his bridges with IGN and Kinda Funny.

And I wonder how the hell do you get kicked off your own subreddit.
You are proving my point exactly when you said "from what I heard about him" You've never heard a word he said.
 
Is it mean to laugh at Wombat being teamed up on by Cheapy and Shipwreck over the Frosty on his shoes? Just the mental image he'd be able to produce a Frosty anywhere he shows up had me howling. Like some kind of Wendy's Wizard.

 
Is it mean to laugh at Wombat being teamed up on by Cheapy and Shipwreck over the Frosty on his shoes? Just the mental image he'd be able to produce a Frosty anywhere he shows up had me howling. Like some kind of Wendy's Wizard.
I don't think so, it was a good natured ribbing and I was laughing so hard I was crying. I must have been tired.

 
Non civil discourse and threats are wrong and this happens across the spectrum. It's not like outraged liberal twitter invented bad behavior, if anything, they are late to the party on that front.

It makes sense why the games industry gets nervous in the shadow of GG, and the desire for the industry to reflect the makeup of it's constituency and to be welcoming to them, which is literally everybody at this point.

As far as the PAX thing, it's less than ideal. They should of did their research ahead of time. But, why are we talking exclusively about Colin Moriarty? He's an intellectual libertarianesque Republican who is capable of saying thoughtful things. I'm far less sympathetic to Maldonado, and hey, if you are a fan of people using comedy as a vehicle to make light of people's realities, cool, do you.

DePlatforming is unsavory, but there is no free speech issue with it. Folks who champion Private Industry acting with limited regulation get super upset when that concept turns on them.

The doxxing is wrong when done to anyone, mob mentality sucks across the board.

Colin just announced today that he's ending his podcast because of the threat of violence. His staff was doxxed, his friend was doxxed, and now it's too dangerous to continue to do the show.

Think about that... threats of violence led to the end of a popular podcast, all because the host holds conservative political views. Lame.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/extinguished-29116471
 
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DePlatforming is unsavory, but there is no free speech issue with it.
Sure there is. The concept of "free speech" applies to far more than just scenarios where the government is the one doing the censoring. I'm not sure if this is what you're implying, but I often see people claim "it doesn't matter because they're not actually violating your constitutional rights."

J.S. Mill wrote quite a bit about the dangers of censorship from our peers and from private industry. Good reading that still holds up today if you want a well-reasoned argument against the idea that industry giants should be able to deplatform whomever they want for any or no reason.

 
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