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#8911 HektiK   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   329 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

Posted 30 June 2020 - 09:54 PM

I can't play it period. Games in general for awhile. Just found out I have post concussion syndrome, until I (hopefully) heal neurologist said limit games and booms. Yay

Very sorry to hear that, hope you have a speedy recovery.



#8912 The Brief Chef   Actor, Chef, & CAG CAGiversary!   336 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  

The Brief Chef

Posted 30 June 2020 - 10:02 PM

Thank you. His exact words were "be patient" and "you can't hit your head again" . My wife and he talked about helmets and bubble wrap, jokingly but in that should we type

Hope you heal up soon, My Dude



#8913 MrRidickulous   Deal skeptic! CAGiversary!   2024 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

MrRidickulous

Posted 30 June 2020 - 10:05 PM

I will venture this question here for what should be the most intelligent group: after seeing the ps5 does anyone think from a consumer standpoint that the Xbox isn’t going to be enough to set it apart or really drum up launch sales?

I am definitely someone who may be late to upgrade, but I feel like the console design of the Xbox one (not sure the right name) is bland, the name is confusing, and it’s more like a PC upgrade, good specs under the hood but it looks like any CPU tower. Thoughts?

I guess I don’t have a vested interest in like Microsoft stock I’m just kind of surprised there’s been so little wow to me personally.

#8914 RiPPn  

Posted 30 June 2020 - 10:27 PM

I will venture this question here for what should be the most intelligent group: after seeing the ps5 does anyone think from a consumer standpoint that the Xbox isn’t going to be enough to set it apart or really drum up launch sales?

I am definitely someone who may be late to upgrade, but I feel like the console design of the Xbox one (not sure the right name) is bland, the name is confusing, and it’s more like a PC upgrade, good specs under the hood but it looks like any CPU tower. Thoughts?

I guess I don’t have a vested interest in like Microsoft stock I’m just kind of surprised there’s been so little wow to me personally.

I think the services are the differentiator.  I view Game Pass much like I viewed PS+ coming into this gen.  It's an extreme value add that is head and shoulders better than what the competition is offering.  Now, Sony could fix PS Now to be more like Game Pass much like Microsoft did with GWG to match PS+, but as it stands they aren't even on the same level especially when coupled with the robust rewards system Microsoft offers.  And I'm saying this as someone who a year ago barely turned on my Xbox and was going to skip the next iteration.  The $1 offer at last years E3 has me almost exclusively gaming on Xbox now.

 

Sony gimped their rewards system to the point it barely even exists these days.  Meanwhile you can fund Game Pass and a couple of games with the rewards system Microsoft offers.  As a CAG the Xbox ecosystem just makes too much sense.  I even quit Gamefly since joining game pass and I have $300 in Microsoft credit ready to go for the Series X thanks to the rewards.  It truly is insane.



#8915 p0rn0saur   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2874 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

p0rn0saur

Posted 30 June 2020 - 10:29 PM

Pretty sure the 360 port of San Andreas is just an awful iphone/ipad version. The kind of garbage Square-Enix does with old Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger. 



#8916 whitereflection   Shake well before serving CAGiversary!   5700 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

whitereflection

Posted 30 June 2020 - 10:37 PM

I will venture this question here for what should be the most intelligent group: after seeing the ps5 does anyone think from a consumer standpoint that the Xbox isn’t going to be enough to set it apart or really drum up launch sales?
I am definitely someone who may be late to upgrade, but I feel like the console design of the Xbox one (not sure the right name) is bland, the name is confusing, and it’s more like a PC upgrade, good specs under the hood but it looks like any CPU tower. Thoughts?
I guess I don’t have a vested interest in like Microsoft stock I’m just kind of surprised there’s been so little wow to me personally.

That's what consoles are now - PC upgrades. You have to download and install software like on a traditional PC - it's a PC in a box. I was just playing my Dreamcast and PS2 the other day and didn't miss any of that micromanagement; nowadays you need a hard drive, broadband Internet connection, and waiting like for a table in a fancy restaurant.

In terms of first-party software, there is almost no way for Xbox to compete realistically on that front with Nintendo or Sony. Other than Halo, MS doesn't really invest in their own IPs as much as they should. Hits like Crimson Skies, MechAssault, or Lost Odyssey are just left to gather mothballs. They might bring back Fable or Perfect Dark, but the quality of those new titles may be dubious.

A similar scenario can be seen in the video streaming marketplace. You have Netflix and Amazon Prime as the titans of the industry and known for their original content. But there are a ton of other digital video marketplaces like iTunes, Vudu, Fandango, Redbox On Demand, etc., where you can still buy or rent any video you want - they just don't have their own quality original content. MS looks like it's positioning Xbox to be that kind of marketplace so that they can rake in the royalties and not have to invest $50 million on just one AAA game.

#8917 Donken   President & CEO CAGiversary!   4279 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 30 June 2020 - 10:45 PM

I will venture this question here for what should be the most intelligent group: after seeing the ps5 does anyone think from a consumer standpoint that the Xbox isn’t going to be enough to set it apart or really drum up launch sales?

I am definitely someone who may be late to upgrade, but I feel like the console design of the Xbox one (not sure the right name) is bland, the name is confusing, and it’s more like a PC upgrade, good specs under the hood but it looks like any CPU tower. Thoughts?

I guess I don’t have a vested interest in like Microsoft stock I’m just kind of surprised there’s been so little wow to me personally.

I think it’s to early to tell still. We know nothing about the launch games. The games will help build the hype. If Halo Infinite looks amazing then many people will want to play it on the best console possible.

Right now it’s a black box with teraflops. The July and August conferences will be there job to show me why I want it. What can it do. If they nail that portion of it then people who love Xbox will preorder it and the hype will build from there.

MS looks like it's positioning Xbox to be that kind of marketplace so that they can rake in the royalties and not have to invest $50 million on just one AAA game.

......... they literally just spent millions of dollars buying up studios and starting a brand new studio in Cali with a bunch of people with AAA game backgrounds... yes those games will be available on PC, but I highly doubt they will be on PS5 and Switch, whatever all the newly bought studios are working on.

Halo, Gears and Forza are what is holding them up now, not just Halo. Forza is the best racing series on any system right now.

#8918 EndOfGreen  

EndOfGreen

Posted 30 June 2020 - 11:00 PM

I can't play it period. Games in general for awhile. Just found out I have post concussion syndrome, until I (hopefully) heal neurologist said limit games and booms. Yay

Sorry to hear that. Control is a BRUTAL game to play if you have any type of color sensitivity. I had to stop playing after two or so hours because not only did I not enjoy it at all, the color design of the game was just abysmally bad.


If anyone was still debating on Ghostbusters remastered, regardless of whether you played it on the 360, I'd do a hard pass. I never played the 360 version, but it looks and plays like a very early 360 game. Tons of FPS drops and stutters.

#8919 deszaras   Wait...what? CAGiversary!   1193 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

deszaras

Posted 30 June 2020 - 11:13 PM

I will venture this question here for what should be the most intelligent group: after seeing the ps5 does anyone think from a consumer standpoint that the Xbox isn’t going to be enough to set it apart or really drum up launch sales?
I am definitely someone who may be late to upgrade, but I feel like the console design of the Xbox one (not sure the right name) is bland, the name is confusing, and it’s more like a PC upgrade, good specs under the hood but it looks like any CPU tower. Thoughts?
I guess I don’t have a vested interest in like Microsoft stock I’m just kind of surprised there’s been so little wow to me personally.


I can’t speak for anyone but myself. I’ve preferred Xbox since the first one came out and as they improved and expanded their ecosystem with the 360 and current gen. I’ve bought each PS but I’ve traded the last two gen systems in because they just took up space. I hate their controllers and interface. I enjoyed Horizon, Spider-man was disappointing and I’ve never been interested in God of War. MLB the Show was the only exclusive I really loved but now that’s going multi-platform.
I have intended on waiting until the new systems have gone through the early hardware problems that have been so common for all systems the last two generations. Ive gotten rid of some debt and it might be feasible to buy the system at launch or around then. I also may wait and see if MLB is only available on the X Series. If it is, then I’ll buy it with no hesitation.

#8920 p0rn0saur   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2874 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

p0rn0saur

Posted 30 June 2020 - 11:15 PM

I think it’s to early to tell still. We know nothing about the launch games. The games will help build the hype. If Halo Infinite looks amazing then many people will want to play it on the best console possible.

Right now it’s a black box with teraflops. The July and August conferences will be there job to show me why I want it. What can it do. If they nail that portion of it then people who love Xbox will preorder it and the hype will build from there.

......... they literally just spent millions of dollars buying up studios and starting a brand new studio in Cali with a bunch of people with AAA game backgrounds... yes those games will be available on PC, but I highly doubt they will be on PS5 and Switch, whatever all the newly bought studios are working on.

Halo, Gears and Forza are what is holding them up now, not just Halo. Forza is the best racing series on any system right now.

Yeah that one made me laugh, haha it's not even a "AAA" studio it's "AAAA" ;) https://www.windowsc...boxs-matt-booty



#8921 whitereflection   Shake well before serving CAGiversary!   5700 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

whitereflection

Posted 30 June 2020 - 11:21 PM

.......... they literally just spent millions of dollars buying up studios and starting a brand new studio in Cali with a bunch of people with AAA game backgrounds... yes those games will be available on PC, but I highly doubt they will be on PS5 and Switch, whatever all the newly bought studios are working on.
Halo, Gears and Forza are what is holding them up now, not just Halo. Forza is the best racing series on any system right now.

"People with AAA game backgrounds" does not mean a thing in terms of future hit potential - just ask David Jaffe or CliffyB. Do you think these studios will be making the next industry-defining franchises, or just solid, competent titles like Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, or Hellblade? My money's on the latter.

#8922 aircobra   The Wind CAGiversary!   3653 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 30 June 2020 - 11:27 PM

"People with AAA game backgrounds" does not mean a thing in terms of future hit potential - just ask David Jaffe or CliffyB. Do you think these studios will be making the next industry-defining franchises, or just solid, competent titles like Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, or Hellblade? My money's on the latter.


I’d go against whatever you’re putting your money on. The studio that made that “competent title” Sunset Overdrive went on to make Spider-Man. Ryse was done by a studio known for Crysis.

#8923 Tyrok   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2725 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Posted 30 June 2020 - 11:31 PM

The XSX will certainly come with a 14 day or 1 month sub to GamePass so all they really have to do is advertise that it is the only console that comes with 200+ games at launch including Halo, Forza and whatever else is announced 3 weeks.



#8924 Donken   President & CEO CAGiversary!   4279 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 30 June 2020 - 11:33 PM

"People with AAA game backgrounds" does not mean a thing in terms of future hit potential - just ask David Jaffe or CliffyB. Do you think these studios will be making the next industry-defining franchises, or just solid, competent titles like Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, or Hellblade? My money's on the latter.

Now you’re moving the goalposts... I was responding to you saying Microsoft is not willing to spend $50 million on a first party game. They are literally spending hundreds of millions grabbing up first party studios and starting a brand new studio. I have no idea what the initiative is working on so I can’t comment on the quality of a future unknown game, but I would bet on Microsoft betting on them, which is why they are dumping a ton of money on building out that studio. The point I was arguing is that Microsoft wants to have great first party games. Will all of them be hits? Of course not, neither are Sony or Nintendo first party games. The more studios they have making stuff, the better chance they have of bringing out some bangers.

Sony and Nintendo have the benefit of being around for longer (in console gaming) and finding there niche and building a bigger global fan base. The cool thing about the first Xbox was Xbox live and being able to play FPS games online in such a robust online experience. Now PC and Sony do that just as well as Microsoft so they have to carve out something else great.

I don’t know what all they have planned for July but I’m hoping it’s great. With how this year has been we all want great games to look forward to. I thought Sony had a couple titles at there conference that looked good but with no release dates, it hasn’t sold me that I need a PS5 yet. I have 3 Nintendo Switch and 2 Xbox One and still have my 360 and a couple PCs that are gaming capable, but I have never felt compelled to buy a PlayStation so I’m hoping Sony can sell me on the PS5. I’ve always been more into shooters outside Nintendo games so that’s why Xbox seemed like a good place to play.

#8925 adonfraz   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   531 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 30 June 2020 - 11:40 PM

I will venture this question here for what should be the most intelligent group: after seeing the ps5 does anyone think from a consumer standpoint that the Xbox isn’t going to be enough to set it apart or really drum up launch sales?

I am definitely someone who may be late to upgrade, but I feel like the console design of the Xbox one (not sure the right name) is bland, the name is confusing, and it’s more like a PC upgrade, good specs under the hood but it looks like any CPU tower. Thoughts?

I guess I don’t have a vested interest in like Microsoft stock I’m just kind of surprised there’s been so little wow to me personally.

Too early to tell but if you only care about which console will outsell the other then just get a PS5.

 

The Series X is the more powerful console and it will probably price match the PS5 disc version.

 

Game Pass and MS Rewards is a far superior value compared to anything else in gaming.

 

My entire Xbox One library will play on the Series X day one (Sony has not been as transparent on BC as Xbox but I'm sure their 1st party games will all run on the PS5 at least).

 

My Xbox One accessories and controllers will all work on the Series X as well.

 

Most of Xbox's marketing of the Series X has been catered to existing Xbox owners for the most part since why would a PS4-only owner care about Xbox One BC or Xbox accessories being forward compatible.

 

All that being said Playstation is a more popular brand globally (and is sold in more countries) so I expect it to outsell the XSX even if the Xbox July show is as great as I think it will be.



#8926 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14757 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

bardockkun

Posted 30 June 2020 - 11:51 PM

I can't play it period. Games in general for awhile. Just found out I have post concussion syndrome, until I (hopefully) heal neurologist said limit games and booms. Yay

No video games is one thing, but this going down on July 4th week has got to be the biggest kick in the nards. Good luck and I hope you can find something to get through this.



#8927 EndOfGreen  

EndOfGreen

Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:09 AM

I know its tempting, but the console war discusion really should wait until july. Its really make or break for MS this time, as if they fall as far back as they did this gen again then I wouldn't be surprised for them to go back on their word and not have a new big release console again.

They either announce completely breathtaking *new* installments of Perfect Dark and Fable, as well as at least one major first party unannounced game with potential for a possible series, with the latter being essential for success.

Or

They do what they usually do and dedicate more than half the show to the new Halo, new Forza, a gears spinoff, sea of thieves/minecraft updates, some other non-game related stuff, and automatically set themselves up for failure. I think this is what is more likely to happen than the first option given the past.

Problem is is that MS isn't even in a console war anymore. They simply just need to show gamers that their console is worth buying. Kids asking their parents to buy them one console cant really be the target base anymore since the majority of them play F2P games, and they'll stick with whatever brand of console they have now, not to mention that crossplay is going to eventually be a thing in every multiplayer game, so it doesn't really matter what console you buy for MP related games.

All I personally want out of MS in July is an agreement with EA to officially announce the Mass Effect Trilogy remaster (and Left 4 Dead 3). I know both will never happen, but I can hope. I'll eventually be buying both consoles down the line again anyways. Besides, the biggest release in gaming this year, and possible of the decade, isn't even on consoles. DEADLY PREMONITION 2 IN 10 DAYS!!!

#8928 whitereflection   Shake well before serving CAGiversary!   5700 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

whitereflection

Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:18 AM

I’d go against whatever you’re putting your money on. The studio that made that “competent title” Sunset Overdrive went on to make Spider-Man. Ryse was done by a studio known for Crysis.

You're proving my point. I said a studio's past hits aren't a good indicator of a future hit. I wouldn't count on Insomniac to make a good game either that wasn't another Spiderman or Ratchet & Clank game. They also made that multiplatform shooter Fuse. Remember that one?

Now you’re moving the goalposts... I was responding to you saying Microsoft is not willing to spend $50 million on a first party game. They are literally spending hundreds of millions grabbing up first party studios and starting a brand new studio. I have no idea what the initiative is working on so I can’t comment on the quality of a future unknown game, but I would bet on Microsoft betting on them, which is why they are dumping a ton of money on building out that studio. The point I was arguing is that Microsoft wants to have great first party games. Will all of them be hits? Of course not, neither are Sony or Nintendo first party games. The more studios they have making stuff, the better chance they have of bringing out some bangers.
Sony and Nintendo have the benefit of being around for longer (in console gaming) and finding there niche and building a bigger global fan base. The cool thing about the first Xbox was Xbox live and being able to play FPS games online in such a robust online experience. Now PC and Sony do that just as well as Microsoft so they have to carve out something else great.
I don’t know what all they have planned for July but I’m hoping it’s great. With how this year has been we all want great games to look forward to. I thought Sony had a couple titles at there conference that looked good but with no release dates, it hasn’t sold me that I need a PS5 yet. I have 3 Nintendo Switch and 2 Xbox One and still have my 360 and a couple PCs that are gaming capable, but I have never felt compelled to buy a PlayStation so I’m hoping Sony can sell me on the PS5. I’ve always been more into shooters outside Nintendo games so that’s why Xbox seemed like a good place to play.

I was going to say something similar in regards to Xbox entering the industry when it was already fairly mature. MS has the unenviable task of having to compete with two extremely entrenched competitors. We live in a bubble where the Xbox brand can be said in the same breath as Nintendo and PlayStation, but globally, the Xbox name doesn't carry that far - Nintendo and PlayStation are like Coke and Pepsi in terms of brand recognition worldwide.

I said Xbox is akin to iTunes instead of Netflix, but it's not an unfavorable comparison. Obviously, iTunes makes a lot of money too and there will always be people who prefer Apple products. If you remember some years back, iTunes released the then-newest U2 album for free exclusively for its users. If you were a U2 fan, then you were probably happy to get their latest album for free. But many people didn't even want it for free. That's kind of where Xbox is now with Halo, Forza, and Gears. A very large segment of the consumers don't care for those franchises anymore even at Game Pass's high-value proposition, but the fans still appreciate those games.

#8929 Babysinclair   Banned Banned   44 Posts   Joined 0.2 Years Ago  

Babysinclair

Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:25 AM

I heard Xbox will show off there games next week, anyone have any other info than that?

#8930 ricotito23  

ricotito23

Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:28 AM

Silent hill HD Collection is $7.49.everyone says its bad port i never play them. But is the only way i can play it. Original versions are expensive and my PC is not working. Help?

#8931 Strider Turbulence EX  

Strider Turbulence EX

Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:31 AM

I just got a $5 gift for....Elder Scrolls Graymoon I think? I never played ESO. I owned it on disc, have an expansion on disc and downloaded ESO from gamepass this morning.



#8932 adonfraz   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   531 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:38 AM

I heard Xbox will show off there games next week, anyone have any other info than that?

 

Most Xbox insiders have the Xbox July event happening the week of July 20th.



#8933 Antarael Dulacre   Royal Dhampire CAGiversary!   2824 Posts   Joined 8.5 Years Ago  

Antarael Dulacre

Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:44 AM

Soo I made it through LiS2 before it left Gamepass...and I got both of the "good endings" didn't feel "good" to me either way...*sigh*



#8934 bee01   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   721 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:54 AM

Soo I made it through LiS2 before it left Gamepass...and I got both of the "good endings" didn't feel "good" to me either way...*sigh*

The main game was uneven but I thought all of the endings were well done.  I got the "worst" ending on my playthrough.



#8935 Blade   This is the way CAGiversary!   14922 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2020 - 12:58 AM

Soo I made it through LiS2 before it left Gamepass...and I got both of the "good endings" didn't feel "good" to me either way...*sigh*

I have the same problem with the LIS games. No ending really seems good, and the stories usually are about playing psychological games with shitty characters instead of doing the right thing.



#8936 Antarael Dulacre   Royal Dhampire CAGiversary!   2824 Posts   Joined 8.5 Years Ago  

Antarael Dulacre

Posted 01 July 2020 - 01:16 AM

The main game was uneven but I thought all of the endings were well done.  I got the "worst" ending on my playthrough.

I have to say, that Daniel's character was quite annoying to me... I mean yeah to a certain point I understand it, he is 9  years old but even after so many times telling him, not to do stupid stuff 2 seconds after taht he does stupid stuff and it always ends really bad. lesson not learned once. And itthe church part didn't make sense to me how easily Danile got manipulated while he was basically rebelling all the time if you told him stuff. So yeah the game itself felt uneven at times. Well you could argue which of them is the "worst"

 

I have the same problem with the LIS games. No ending really seems good, and the stories usually are about playing psychological games with shitty characters instead of doing the right thing.

Welp I know what I get into when playing this stuff, I mean after Lis abd BTS, I kinda knew I won't get the closure I wanted for this game. Personally I find the other good ending "better" than what is considered the "best" ending. At least both of them have somewhat of a life with that.
 



#8937 entexman  

entexman

Posted 01 July 2020 - 01:24 AM

Hey, I actually have that one, though!

No idea if they are still worth anything, but I probably should dump it if they are. Someone here messaged me years ago about it and I horded it, thinking it would find a use. Haven't even touched it.

I am very interested in getting the official Gamecube component cable. If you want to sell it let me know what it would be worth to you. Of course it would probably get you top dollar on ebay. Let me know if you list it there.

 

 

Thanks!



#8938 p0rn0saur   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2874 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

p0rn0saur

Posted 01 July 2020 - 01:27 AM

I'm whatever on IGN, but interesting they had their "summer of gaming" and it's now over and having all their voting and we haven't seen the July Xbox show yet. That's not very shady looking at all. 



#8939 Donken   President & CEO CAGiversary!   4279 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2020 - 01:40 AM

I'm whatever on IGN, but interesting they had their "summer of gaming" and it's now over and having all their voting and we haven't seen the July Xbox show yet. That's not very shady looking at all.

In there defense they gotta get clicks to survive, so having a voting based on what was shown in June probably gets them some clicks (not knocking it but that’s just the reality of all “news” sites). I think both Sony and Microsoft said they are having a show in August too? But who knows, so really to include everything they would have to wait til Sept or maybe later, maybe they want to cut it off where E3 would be long over by now.

I agree with you though, to truly know what was the best summer announcement you should wait til Summer is over at least.

#8940 braiiins   Braiiins CAGiversary!   1203 Posts   Joined 5.6 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2020 - 01:54 AM

I think i got a good ending for LiS2.

Spoiler

 

I'll slowly watch the other endings. I didn't want to spend 45 minutes straight watching all of them. 

 

Think I'll take a gamepass break and jump into Apex for the first time this season and play some Man Eater. Was tempted by Greedfall at 75% off but won't be tempted with such a large backlog.