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#991 shadowysea07   Cjenvy I'm ready for you awd this time I'm wearing pants CAGiversary!   6566 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

shadowysea07

Posted 20 April 2021 - 05:33 AM

That's how it usually works with sony.  They have a good generation then screw up the next one for a while. Granted supply issues with the ps5 aren't helping. Though it's been building on negative publicity/decisions for a while now since them and nintendo decided to switch places on censorship values. 



#992 blueweltall   Kill the Batman CAGiversary!   7244 Posts   Joined 17.3 Years Ago  

blueweltall

Posted 20 April 2021 - 07:55 AM

In an industry where you can be made or broken by good will, Jim Ryan is eroding it almost as bad as Don Mattrick did for Xbox. I believe if he remains the head of PlayStation this entire generation, Xbox will be back to 360 levels of competing with PlayStation, he is that bad for the brand.

I think it still too early to tell about Jim Ryan. He's not Jack Tretton or Shawn Layden for sure, but I feel he doesn't need to be them if he can continue to help and lead the Sony Studios to release the same type of games that we saw in the past few years. The games we saw in 2020 alone was insane.

Xbox 360 started out very strong because of their great lineup of games that they had, which later fizzled out near the end of that generation, because they failed to develop new impactful IP at the end of the 360 and the entire Xbox one era. In terms of first party games I thought the 360 games were way better than the Xbox One games.

I feel like it is the game that make the brand not the head of the studio.

#993 Cornelius   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1040 Posts   Joined 17.4 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 09:50 AM

 

How do I know what PS3 games I own are PS+, and which I actually own?

If you happened to ever let your PS+ expire, then the date you renewed it will reissue all your PS+ purchases on that date. So they will all show as purchased in your download list on that date. The only other way I know of checking is to have the game downloaded, click triangle, go to info and see if the game says it will expire. If it has an expiration date it’s obviously a PS+.

 


BEFORE the nincomboobs coding the new PlayStation web store (while the old site was still around as default, or with the "psapp" backdoor), you could still use PSDLE to grab the ENTIRE purchase library (including themes, avatars, PS3, Vita, and PSP).  Hopefully if you've ever run a PSDLE report and still have it lying around, that could isolate which content was given freely by PS+.  Nowadays PSDLE only has access to your PS4 full title purchases on the "playstation.com" site, but there's still 1 other way to grab that list ...

 

In Chrome ... head to https://account.sony...mentnetwork.com , click on "Transactions", and either find the date you renewed your PS+ subscription, or navigate the dates until you find hundreds of transactions on the same date in 2020.  Anything among those transactions upon that 1 date will be your PS+ free content.

 

Or if you're lazy, you might searching for emails from "PlayStation <reply@txn-email.playstation.com>" or "Sony Entertainment Network <Sony@email.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com>" and see what emails include the text "$0.00". :lol:



#994 wampler13   That's just ,like, your opinion, man! CAGiversary!   1139 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 10:07 AM

I feel like it is the game that make the brand not the head of the studio.

 

Gotta disagree with this. Anyone who thinks Don Mattrick and crew didn't doom the XBox One to getting trounced in sales by the PS4 wasn't paying attention. The competition was over months before it started and it wasn't because of Knack or Drive Club.



#995 topchief1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   628 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

topchief1

Posted 20 April 2021 - 10:45 AM

Well, it's not like Sony isn't going to ever kill the ps3 store, they are just going to wait till all the fury dies down, and then it'll just be closed one day. Now if they suddenly put the games on sale again, I'd be pissed but otherwise this is just delaying the inevitable.

#996 simmias   Likely to be eaten by a grue CAGiversary!   4799 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 12:33 PM

When Sony announced the closure of PS3 and PS Vita stores, I made a list of the games and DLC I wanted to buy across the 5 consoles, finalized it, and then started purchasing them, all at full price. Took me about a week but I just wanted to get it over with and get ahead of any possible unexpected hiccups and delistings should they occur. So I didn't actually panic buy, but I was still under a false impression that an impending shutdown was near. I think I spent about $735 in total for all of them. 

 

Now I'm just shocked and dismayed when I heard the news today. The money I spent is not lifechanging, but it could go a long way towards not having to worry about expenses for awhile. I didn't expect a corporation to actually reverse course on this. I thought this was more akin to Nintendo's virtual console situation than Microsoft.

 

Is there any recourse that I am able to pursue over this?  :cry:

Just had to get all those bikini costumes, huh?



#997 ProfessorStotch   Banned CAGiversary!   13833 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

ProfessorStotch

Posted 20 April 2021 - 12:41 PM

Aaaannd that’s why you hack your Vita folks.


So you don't need to buy PS3 games?

#998 AoA   Ace of Aces CAGiversary!   1849 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 01:29 PM

Just wondering...they're still closing the PSP store but I can (or at least I could) buy PSP games through the Vita store.

Does this mean that I can't buy PSP games through the Vita store once the PSP store is closed.

 

I don't actually see myself buying any PSP or Vita or PS3 games at this time or really in the future if I haven't already.

 

I just wonder what the actual logistics will be?



#999 SpraykwoN   the Chef CAGiversary!   4097 Posts   Joined 7.7 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 03:30 PM

When Sony announced the closure of PS3 and PS Vita stores, I made a list of the games and DLC I wanted to buy across the 5 consoles, finalized it, and then started purchasing them, all at full price. Took me about a week but I just wanted to get it over with and get ahead of any possible unexpected hiccups and delistings should they occur. So I didn't actually panic buy, but I was still under a false impression that an impending shutdown was near. I think I spent about $735 in total for all of them. 
 
Now I'm just shocked and dismayed when I heard the news today. The money I spent is not lifechanging, but it could go a long way towards not having to worry about expenses for awhile. I didn't expect a corporation to actually reverse course on this. I thought this was more akin to Nintendo's virtual console situation than Microsoft.
 
Is there any recourse that I am able to pursue over this?  :cry:


Literally lol’d when I read this

#1000 flooderdooden  

flooderdooden

Posted 20 April 2021 - 03:35 PM

When Sony announced the closure of PS3 and PS Vita stores, I made a list of the games and DLC I wanted to buy across the 5 consoles, finalized it, and then started purchasing them, all at full price. Took me about a week but I just wanted to get it over with and get ahead of any possible unexpected hiccups and delistings should they occur. So I didn't actually panic buy, but I was still under a false impression that an impending shutdown was near. I think I spent about $735 in total for all of them. 

 

Now I'm just shocked and dismayed when I heard the news today. The money I spent is not lifechanging, but it could go a long way towards not having to worry about expenses for awhile. I didn't expect a corporation to actually reverse course on this. I thought this was more akin to Nintendo's virtual console situation than Microsoft.

 

Is there any recourse that I am able to pursue over this?  :cry:

 

I’m legit curious, what all did you end up getting that totaled $735? 



#1001 SpraykwoN   the Chef CAGiversary!   4097 Posts   Joined 7.7 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 04:46 PM

I’m legit curious, what all did you end up getting that totaled $735?


Whole lotta shit is my guess

#1002 bilbobagins3  

bilbobagins3

Posted 20 April 2021 - 06:03 PM

I’m legit curious, what all did you end up getting that totaled $735? 

I was going to make a quip about how maybe the guy just really loves the Sims 4 and bought all the DLC, but then I actually got curious and looked it up and fun fact, that is basically the exact amount you would pay to buy every single piece of Sims 4 DLC at full price without bundling.



#1003 blueweltall   Kill the Batman CAGiversary!   7244 Posts   Joined 17.3 Years Ago  

blueweltall

Posted 20 April 2021 - 06:23 PM

I feel like it is the game that make the brand not the head of the studio.

 

Gotta disagree with this. Anyone who thinks Don Mattrick and crew didn't doom the XBox One to getting trounced in sales by the PS4 wasn't paying attention. The competition was over months before it started and it wasn't because of Knack or Drive Club.

I think you forgot that Don Mattrick left for Zynga a few months after when the Xbox One was revealed and he was never the head of Xbox during anytime when the Xbox One came out. So the failure is actually on the Xbox teams who have years to develop new IP or strengthen their existing franchise but failed to do so. I'm pretty sure the sale number were very close the first year but slowly widen because of the games that eventually came out and separate them from each other.



#1004 wampler13   That's just ,like, your opinion, man! CAGiversary!   1139 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 06:38 PM

I think you forgot that Don Mattrick left for Zynga a few months after when the Xbox One was revealed and he was never the head of Xbox during anytime when the Xbox One came out. So the failure is actually on the Xbox teams who have years to develop new IP or strengthen their existing franchise but failed to do so. I'm pretty sure the sale number were very close the first year but slowly widen because of the games that eventually came out and separate them from each other.

Wrong. His influence loomed large well after he left. There was no changing what the xbox one was before launch once it had been shown. His price announcements and drm bs were incredibly hurtful to the xb1's sales. The damage had been done. Clearly you can believe what you want. You'll just be in the tiny minority is all.

 

 

 

 

 

PS4 sales double that of XBox One in first year. Not very close.



#1005 blueweltall   Kill the Batman CAGiversary!   7244 Posts   Joined 17.3 Years Ago  

blueweltall

Posted 20 April 2021 - 06:59 PM

Dualsense Charging Station instock Best Buy:

 

https://www.bestbuy....p?skuId=6430165



#1006 Timbobway  

Timbobway

Posted 20 April 2021 - 07:17 PM

Literally lol’d when I read this

That is crazy.  $735 on what, I wonder?  Here I am trying to convince myself to spend $20 on Siren and this guy just spent over $700 on who knows what



#1007 camoor   Jams on foot fires CAGiversary!   15292 Posts   Joined 17.7 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 07:29 PM

 The competition was over months before it started and it wasn't because of Knack or Drive Club.

I remember when PS4 came out and Knack was being hyped as the next big thing on national news and late night talk shows. 

 

I was like - Knack, really, my god.

 

When the general public thinks of videogames, they still think of kid-friendly Super Mario clones.  :shock:   



#1008 bigbadboaz   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   437 Posts   Joined 17.8 Years Ago  

bigbadboaz

Posted 20 April 2021 - 07:44 PM

I think you forgot that Don Mattrick left for Zynga a few months after when the Xbox One was revealed and he was never the head of Xbox during anytime when the Xbox One came out. So the failure is actually on the Xbox teams who have years to develop new IP or strengthen their existing franchise but failed to do so. I'm pretty sure the sale number were very close the first year but slowly widen because of the games that eventually came out and separate them from each other.

It was quite clear at the time that Mattrick was the face and leadership of the brand for launch. It was also contextually clear that his leaving for Zynga was the usual corporate forceout after the dual disasters that were the "TV TV TV" hype presentation and subsequent launch underperformance vs. PS4.



#1009 Z-Saber   moon2S CAGiversary!   7114 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 07:47 PM



I was going to make a quip about how maybe the guy just really loves the Sims 4 and bought all the DLC, but then I actually got curious and looked it up and fun fact, that is basically the exact amount you would pay to buy every single piece of Sims 4 DLC at full price without bundling.


On the Xbox side, I've bought my wife almost all of the available Sims 4 content only using Microsoft Credit redeemed from Microsoft Rewards. Only actually money I've spent was tax on some of the purchases if it brought the total slightly above the amount of credit. Also waited for sales and bought bundles.

So dang, that's almost $800 in Sims junk for "free?"

#1010 blueweltall   Kill the Batman CAGiversary!   7244 Posts   Joined 17.3 Years Ago  

blueweltall

Posted 20 April 2021 - 07:50 PM

Wrong. His influence loomed large well after he left. There was no changing what the xbox one was before launch once it had been shown. His price announcements and drm bs were incredibly hurtful to the xb1's sales. The damage had been done. Clearly you can believe what you want. You'll just be in the tiny minority is all.

 

 

 

 

 

PS4 sales double that of XBox One in first year. Not very close.

What I am trying to say is that it could have been turned around if they would have focused on developing new IP because it is the game that matters. The PS3 was in the same similar situation and the price difference was more dramatic, $600 vs $400 and $300. The PS3 was also released a full year later than the 360 and came with many issues. I am pretty sure the sales number gap was much wider back then than it was for the PS4 and Xbox One when the PS3 finally came out.

 

It is odd to think that Mattrick has prevented the current Xbox team to develop or change path years later when he has not been with the company for years. But yeah you are also entitled to believe whatever you want.



#1011 blueweltall   Kill the Batman CAGiversary!   7244 Posts   Joined 17.3 Years Ago  

blueweltall

Posted 20 April 2021 - 07:53 PM

It was quite clear at the time that Mattrick was the face and leadership of the brand for launch. It was also contextually clear that his leaving for Zynga was the usual corporate forceout after the dual disasters that were the "TV TV TV" hype presentation and subsequent launch underperformance vs. PS4.

Did people forgot how horrible the PS3 launch was and that the father of the Playstation was also forced out too?



#1012 wampler13   That's just ,like, your opinion, man! CAGiversary!   1139 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 07:57 PM

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#1013 blueweltall   Kill the Batman CAGiversary!   7244 Posts   Joined 17.3 Years Ago  

blueweltall

Posted 20 April 2021 - 07:59 PM

If you don't want or can't have a conversation that is fine. You have a good day.



#1014 etcrane   A Damn Fine Cup of Coffee CAGiversary!   6240 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 08:45 PM

So you don't need to buy PS3 games?


Were there any great PS3 games that haven’t been ported ... I thought about it the other day and the only game I own but regret being unable to play is Tokyo Jungle. And again, mod your PS3 ... if you still own one and are worried about Sony closing the store at some point. Sony killed the Vita in 2015, with support fully dropped in 2019. These are legacy consoles so I don’t see why someone wouldn’t mod their system. Especially the Vita, which opens up some amazing options to enhance the actual console experience.

#1015 WNYX585AM   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3857 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 08:58 PM

I think you forgot that Don Mattrick left for Zynga a few months after when the Xbox One was revealed and he was never the head of Xbox during anytime when the Xbox One came out. So the failure is actually on the Xbox teams who have years to develop new IP or strengthen their existing franchise but failed to do so. I'm pretty sure the sale number were very close the first year but slowly widen because of the games that eventually came out and separate them from each other.

I'm sure Don Mattrick gets more hate than he probably should, but compare him and Phil Spencer.  Phil Spencer is not in the trenches developing hardware and software.  He steers the ship just like Don Mattrick steered the ship. 



#1016 Das_Regal   oh god CAGiversary!   1281 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 09:10 PM

The legacy of Mattrick's bad decisions still haunts Xbox even today because it takes long time to turn around a ship headed in the wrong direction when you're dealing with products that have 3-5 year production cycles. Take PS3 for instance. They clearly realized somewhere in the development of PS3 that things weren't going well, but it still took them from 2006 when it released until 2008 for them to put in a feature as basic as trophies. The generation ended with a big headwind for Sony when their investments in high quality studios like Naughty Dog started to pay massive dividends. The Last of Us was a huge win and the pathway to its development arguably began with Uncharted 1 in 2007.

 

By comparison, Xbox One's problem wasn't its TV-TV-TV E3 intro, it was the fact that they had no where to pivot off of that when it became clear it wasn't working. They didn't have a diamond in the rough to put out early in the generation that would eventually become a blockbuster franchise for them. When they flopped at launch, they had nothing they could do but eat crow.

 

Sure, the past few years have seen them dumping a lot of money into acquiring new users for their ecosystem by buying developers to produce exclusives and giving out a very generous offer in gamepass, but it's going to take time for them to leverage that too. In 3 years we're going to see Microsoft firing on all cylinders and it's going to be impressive. Right now though, Microsoft's only compelling offer is value. Game pass is good entertainment for the money, but their exclusives still suck. When they have better products to offer, they will pull the rug out from under the value proposition and crank up the fees. Game pass being cheap now is just a user acquisition tool and later they will capitalize on those acquired users (which is what Sony is doing now).

 

This is how companies work. They give compelling offers to suck you in then they monetize you as hard as they can. You get tired of it, find a better offer, and the cycle plays out again.



#1017 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   3868 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 09:23 PM

Were there any great PS3 games that haven’t been ported ... I thought about it the other day and the only game I own but regret being unable to play is Tokyo Jungle. And again, mod your PS3 ... if you still own one and are worried about Sony closing the store at some point. Sony killed the Vita in 2015, with support fully dropped in 2019. These are legacy consoles so I don’t see why someone wouldn’t mod their system. Especially the Vita, which opens up some amazing options to enhance the actual console experience.

Tokyo Jungle had a physical release on PS3 in the "Best of PlayStation Network Vol. 1".



#1018 RiPPn  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 09:37 PM

I think it still too early to tell about Jim Ryan.

Look around the various gaming forums, as well as Twitter and Reddit.  There is very little positive mind share around the brand right now.  Jim Ryan was a blundering idiot sparking negative controversy back when he was over Europe.  I just can't understand how he was promoted to head the whole division.  Other than PlayStation Plus improving in value and the Play at Home initiative, is there a positive move that has been made in the past 2 years?  Every announcement seems more anti consumer (censorship, no network cross platform play, closing legacy stores, $70 games, no upgrades to PS4 versions of games you own), disappointing (Days Gone sequel nixed, no plans for a Game Pass service), unwanted (Last of Us Remake) or a backtrack on a previous terrible position.

 

Sure, the past few years have seen them dumping a lot of money into acquiring new users for their ecosystem by buying developers to produce exclusives and giving out a very generous offer in gamepass, but it's going to take time for them to leverage that too. In 3 years we're going to see Microsoft firing on all cylinders and it's going to be impressive. Right now though, Microsoft's only compelling offer is value. Game pass is good entertainment for the money, but their exclusives still suck. When they have better products to offer, they will pull the rug out from under the value proposition and crank up the fees. Game pass being cheap now is just a user acquisition tool and later they will capitalize on those acquired users (which is what Sony is doing now).

The problem with Game Pass is you don't own any of the content.  If Microsoft does as you say and jacks the price up and starts to move in a negative direction, there isn't much that locks the users into their ecosystem assuming they didn't buy into other software and media while using Game Pass.  For instance, I moved to Xbox thanks to not liking Sony's direction and loving the value of Game Pass even though I have several thousands invested in the PlayStation ecosystem.  If Microsoft starts removing their value I'll jump again.  Corporations have no loyalty to their consumers and consumers should treat corporations the same way.



#1019 darthbster31   Herpaderp CAGiversary!   305 Posts   Joined 8.4 Years Ago  

darthbster31

Posted 20 April 2021 - 09:48 PM

Were there any great PS3 games that haven’t been ported ... I thought about it the other day and the only game I own but regret being unable to play is Tokyo Jungle. And again, mod your PS3 ... if you still own one and are worried about Sony closing the store at some point. Sony killed the Vita in 2015, with support fully dropped in 2019. These are legacy consoles so I don’t see why someone wouldn’t mod their system. Especially the Vita, which opens up some amazing options to enhance the actual console experience.


At this point, there's no reason to own a vita and not mod it. That doesn't necessarily mean pirating every damn thing. Just being able to put a SD card in the system without spending hundreds of dollars on proprietary junk SD cards is worth it all in itself. The mod scene is really crazy with the apps and tools that unlock it to it's full potential with changing clock speeds, allowing use of dualshock controllers, using launcher programs that change the whole UI, and retroarch.

#1020 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4498 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2021 - 10:09 PM

At this point, there's no reason to own a vita and not mod it. That doesn't necessarily mean pirating every damn thing. Just being able to put a SD card in the system without spending hundreds of dollars on proprietary junk SD cards is worth it all in itself. The mod scene is really crazy with the apps and tools that unlock it to it's full potential with changing clock speeds, allowing use of dualshock controllers, using launcher programs that change the whole UI, and retroarch.

Not to mention the SD cards are more reliable (and obtainable) than the vita memory card.
Yea, hacked my vita tv and downloaded all my owned PS1, PSP, and VIta games to it... fully playable.