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Did you sell Mcdonald monoploy pieces online if so you can be SUED


#1 slidecage   Nothing to say CAGiversary!   29308 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 01:58 PM

ebay is cracking down and removing most if not all Mcdonalds monoploy pieces... sucks cant get any cheap food this year buying up people winning pieces.... Just think of all the people who sent in 500-2000 request thinking they could sell off the game pieces and get their money back

DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i can see removing fake game pieces but Why the hell remove 200 sealed pieces for 40 bucks they said its a lottery...

UPDATE

i just got an email from ebay saying why pulled

McDonalds instructed eBay to remove all auctions selling Monopoly Best Chance game pieces. All game pieces sold on eBay and other venues are considered null and void under the rules. McDonalds also reserves the right to bring civil actions against violators. It is a federal felony to sell the game pieces and mail them across state lines under federal statues concerning lottery tickets.

so if you sold any mcdonald game pieces Dont be shocked if you get something in the mail. Though i doubt its very unlikely

Two though You might as well say this will be the final year for Best buy bucks sad to say
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#2 wubb   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   20114 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 03:16 PM

It's probably because of all the dicks selling the fake pieces that eBay is just taking them all down. Especially if they haven't taken them down in past years, I'd have to assume that's the reason for the change this year.

Assholes.

#3 Kayden   Banned Banned   17673 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 03:54 PM

Did that other guy ever get paid?

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#4 slidecage   Nothing to say CAGiversary!   29308 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:00 PM

Update with info on first post
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#5 Scorch   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   37483 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:01 PM

Just think of all the people who sent in 500-2000 request thinking they could sell off the game pieces and get their money back

DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I think you're the only idiot on the face of the earth to send 500 pieces of mail requesting a free piece.

#6 slidecage   Nothing to say CAGiversary!   29308 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:06 PM

I think you're the only idiot on the face of the earth to send 500 pieces of mail requesting a free piece.


i did send 150 away BUT i plan on using every single piece i get back...

i will use so much of that best buy bucks to buy 2 or 3 DS games and hopefully spend the rest of it towards at video camcorder... i will also use all of the free food pieces myself or give to my family... so im not out nothing but I bet there are a lot of people who just wrote in for free pieces just to resell
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#7 wildnuts02   2 Real 4 U CAGiversary!   2212 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:06 PM

I think you're the only idiot on the face of the earth to send 500 pieces of mail requesting a free piece.


yah, wtf??
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#8 wubb   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   20114 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:08 PM

Interesting I didn't know it was a felony to mail those pieces across state lines. I would be very surprised if anyone ends up getting prosecuted for it, though. I truly doubt McDonald's will waste any time or resources on pursuing legal action. I imagine they played that card to get eBay off their ass and proactively take them down w/o requiring McDonald's to notify them on each specific auction that should be removed. Do you have a link with a news story somewhere with the details? I did a Google News search but didn't turn up anything. (Didn't try very hard.)

(I'd love it if some of the dicks selling fake pieces get charged with something though.)

#9 wildnuts02   2 Real 4 U CAGiversary!   2212 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:13 PM

Interesting I didn't know it was a felony to mail those pieces across state lines. I would be very surprised if anyone ends up getting prosecuted for it, though. I truly doubt McDonald's will waste any time or resources on pursuing legal action. I imagine they played that card to get eBay off their ass and proactively take them down w/o requiring McDonald's to notify them on each specific auction that should be removed. Do you have a link with a news story somewhere with the details? I did a Google News search but didn't turn up anything. (Didn't try very hard, though)

(I'd love it if some of the dicks selling fake pieces get charged with something though.)


If Mickie Ds sued anybody it would be Ebay and then Ebay would maybe drag some egrigous violators into the lawsuit. but there is a .0001% chance of this ever happening. when the golden arches send out cease and desist letters, people listen.
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#10 Jeoff   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   919 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:14 PM

Tons of people have done it. If it's worth your time why not? I decided it wasn't worth my time but I can see how somebody would buy a roll or two of stamps and do it.

I agree that the pieces should not be on ebay because there are so many scammers. Also McDonalds probably doesn't like it when thousands of sandwich/fry/drink boxes 'disappear' at this time of year.

#11 slidecage   Nothing to say CAGiversary!   29308 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:25 PM

Tons of people have done it. If it's worth your time why not? I decided it wasn't worth my time but I can see how somebody would buy a roll or two of stamps and do it.

I agree that the pieces should not be on ebay because there are so many scammers. Also McDonalds probably doesn't like it when thousands of sandwich/fry/drink boxes 'disappear' at this time of year.


i figure out on paper if you lived in vermont and sold off all the pieces you could turn 4,000 bucks into between 15,000 to 25,000 profit
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#12 Ugamer_X   You can trust me CAGiversary!   7617 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:31 PM

Interesting I didn't know it was a felony to mail those pieces across state lines. I would be very surprised if anyone ends up getting prosecuted for it, though. I truly doubt McDonald's will waste any time or resources on pursuing legal action. I imagine they played that card to get eBay off their ass and proactively take them down w/o requiring McDonald's to notify them on each specific auction that should be removed. Do you have a link with a news story somewhere with the details? I did a Google News search but didn't turn up anything. (Didn't try very hard.)

(I'd love it if some of the dicks selling fake pieces get charged with something though.)

It's not a felony, don't know why Ebay is using that line. The McDonald's game doesn't fall under any gambling statute, so resticting the transfer and sale of game pieces across state lines makes no sense.

#13 wildnuts02   2 Real 4 U CAGiversary!   2212 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:37 PM

It's not a felony, don't know why Ebay is using that line. The McDonald's game doesn't fall under any gambling statute, so resticting the transfer and sale of game pieces across state lines makes no sense.


only one gambling statute would be relevant here - the federal one. congress has banned gambling/lotteries in interstate commerce - it would be a federal felony to do so. who knows what the federal statute looks like but its not so far fetched that it could be construed to include the mcdonalds game.
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#14 TimPV3   Butthole CAGiversary!   2601 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 09:40 PM

Did that other guy ever get paid?

I hope not, after seeing his life story auction it would be hilarious to see it become worthless after his main selling point never happened.

#15 Scorch   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   37483 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 16 October 2005 - 10:35 PM

I wonder if they'll even bother sending Slidecage one piece. I bet he wrote them in crayon.

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Posted 16 October 2005 - 10:38 PM

On McDonald's napkins.

And the envelope was made out of McDonald's napkins too. And sealed with ketchup.

In relation to the thread, I hope McD sues eBay and has them all put into federal pound me in the ass prison.


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#17 alonzomourning23   all my heroes are dead CAGiversary!   7774 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 02:38 AM

only one gambling statute would be relevant here - the federal one. congress has banned gambling/lotteries in interstate commerce - it would be a federal felony to do so. who knows what the federal statute looks like but its not so far fetched that it could be construed to include the mcdonalds game.


But it can't meet the definition of gambling, since children can't gamble but they can buy those pieces.
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#18 m0nkeybl1tz   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   343 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 02:46 AM

Are children allowed to claim prizes? And even so, children aren't allowed to gamble because they're not deemed responsible with money. However, here, they're just using the money to buy food, with a side order of gambling. Also, what do they send you if you send away?

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 02:47 AM

I wonder if they'll even bother sending Slidecage one piece. I bet he wrote them in crayon.



:lol:

I can't see why any feels the need to send in 100-200 letters for the chance to receive some Best Buy Bucks.

Some BBs won't take more then $3 at any given time..is it really worth you're time to make an extra $40-$50? Get a job.

#20 zionoverfire   C10Cl12 CAGiversary!   18241 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 02:52 AM

I wonder if the game rules had something like 1 piece per household by mail, I can see another the mailman fucked me other thread coming out of all of this.

#21 wildnuts02   2 Real 4 U CAGiversary!   2212 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 17 October 2005 - 03:01 AM

But it can't meet the definition of gambling, since children can't gamble but they can buy those pieces.


your logic:

- states don't allow minors (<18) to gamble | ok premise but not 100% correct
- minors are allowed to play the monopoly
- therefore, the monopoly game cannot gambling

the biggest reason that this is wrong is that federal law doesn't care what is or is not defined as gambling on the state level. federal law only says that gambling/lotteries conducted across state lines is illegal. so the only relevant question is whether the monopoly game falls under the definition of "lottery" under federal law.

your conclusion could also be defeated by the simple possiblity that states aren't enforcing the gambling law against mcdonalds (for letting minors play).
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#22 alonzomourning23   all my heroes are dead CAGiversary!   7774 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 04:53 AM

your logic:

- states don't allow minors (<18) to gamble | ok premise but not 100% correct
- minors are allowed to play the monopoly
- therefore, the monopoly game cannot gambling

the biggest reason that this is wrong is that federal law doesn't care what is or is not defined as gambling on the state level. federal law only says that gambling/lotteries conducted across state lines is illegal. so the only relevant question is whether the monopoly game falls under the definition of "lottery" under federal law.

your conclusion could also be defeated by the simple possiblity that states aren't enforcing the gambling law against mcdonalds (for letting minors play).


Or maybe you're just wrong:



Sweepstakes, which are legal, are distinguished from lotteries in one, and only one, respect: They cannot require the giving of something of benefit (known as "consideration"), for example the payment of money or the expenditure of substantial time or effort by the consumer that results in a direct benefit to the sponsor, as a prerequisite of entry. Sponsors can remove the element of consideration for sweepstakes (typically entered by purchasing a product), by offering an alternate free means of entry (such as an 800 number to call or a 3x5 card to mail), as long as those using the free alternative are treated on an equal basis with those who pay to enter. The alternate means of entry must be clearly and conspicuously disclosed in all advertising for the sweepstakes.


These basic rules on keeping sweepstakes legal, are only the starting point in determining whether sweepstakes advertising directed to children meet the more stringent requirements of CARU's Self-Regulatory Guidelines for Children's Advertising (the Guidelines). The basic premise of the Guidelines is that children, because of their age and inexperience, are more credulous and therefore need more protections than adults. Sweepstakes promoters must therefore use common sense in dealing with a child audience. For example, while it might be sufficient for a sweepstakes advertised to adults to disclose the alternate means of entry in mice type in a magazine or other printed advertisement (and CARU takes no position on the issue of sweepstakes advertising to adults), such a disclosure would clearly not suffice in a sweepstakes advertised to children. The necessity of having clear disclosure that no purchase is necessary cannot be overstated. While adults might look for a free method of entry, children are more likely to think that the only way to enter is to purchase the sponsor's product, especially when the product is candy or other low cost items. It is important to remember that if the fact that no purchase is necessary to enter is not clearly and conspicuously disclosed so that a child will understand the message, the sweepstakes is an illegal lottery.


http://www.caru.org/...sweepstakes.asp

That's from the better business bureau, and it state that minors can participate in sweepstake, and that this is not a lottery.
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#23 Skelah   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   941 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 17 October 2005 - 05:05 AM

If u have the money id sue ebay the only reason ebay is pulling it is cause they are fearful from being sued from mcdonalds..there is no law preventing u selling the gamepeices its mcdonalds responsability NOT EBAY OR THE REST OF THE WORLD to make sure you played the game the right way and didnt BREAK MCDONALDS RULES NOT THE LAW.

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 07:24 AM

If u have the money id sue ebay the only reason ebay is pulling it is cause they are fearful from being sued from mcdonalds..there is no law preventing u selling the gamepeices its mcdonalds responsability NOT EBAY OR THE REST OF THE WORLD to make sure you played the game the right way and didnt BREAK MCDONALDS RULES NOT THE LAW.

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 07:31 AM

Congress has used the Commerce Clause in order to regulate interstate gambling, international gambling and relations between the United States and Native American territories. They have passed amendments to federal law making it illegal to sell one state's lottery tickets in another state, outlawing sports betting with only certain exceptions (Las Vegas being one) and have regulated the extent to which casinos may exist on Native American land.


Though I suppose, if this counts as a sweepstakes, not gambling, then who knows.

#26 slidecage   Nothing to say CAGiversary!   29308 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 17 October 2005 - 12:20 PM

:lol:

I can't see why any feels the need to send in 100-200 letters for the chance to receive some Best Buy Bucks.

Some BBs won't take more then $3 at any given time..is it really worth you're time to make an extra $40-$50? Get a job.



if you want to play this game then WHY go to best buy or CC when they have games on sale for 5 bucks Just buy them for 50 bucks. if your waiting for them to fall to 5 to save 45 bucks get a job and buy it for 50
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