I want another Wind Waker

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I know, I know, Wind Waker wasn't true to what it should've been, blah, blah, blah, bitch, bitch, bitch. Yes, it definitely wasn't another Ocarina of Time--but it was a great game. The style and idea was brilliant and it would be a shame if the concept wasn't used again. Make the game more difficult and improve the sailing portion of the game--then it'd be perfect!!! So, is there another WW coming out?
 
1. Wind Waker was niot another Ocarina is correct - it did not suck.

2. Ocarina was the untrue game

3. Nintendo sold out, and as a result, i will not buy any game made by them and released after the announcment new, only used so i do not put money in their stupid pockets.


OOt is the worst Zelda game ever, and may have singlehanded caused a great deal of what sucks with video games these days.
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']1. Wind Waker was niot another Ocarina is correct - it did not suck.

2. Ocarina was the untrue game

3. Nintendo sold out, and as a result, i will not buy any game made by them and released after the announcment new, only used so i do not put money in their stupid pockets.


OOt is the worst Zelda game ever, and may have singlehanded caused a great deal of what sucks with video games these days.[/quote]

im pretty sure me and millions of other people disagree strongly with your statements. lol i loved oot and hated ww..... but im psyced for the new zelda.. is anyone else?
 
Yeah, well you and millios of others have extremely poor taste. And it is a fact that OOt is out of line with the rest of the series. I remember Link's eyes bulging out whe he ran into walls or fell down holes in Link to Ze Past
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']
3. Nintendo sold out, and as a result, i will not buy any game made by them and released after the announcment new, only used so i do not put money in their stupid pockets.

OOt is the worst Zelda game ever, and may have singlehanded caused a great deal of what sucks with video games these days.[/quote]

Well, that's a bit of an overstatement, IMO. OoT did a TON of stuff brilliantly, not least of all just being in 3D.

HOWEVER ... I thought WW was fan-frikkin'-tastic. Sure, it was pretty easy, but I have never in my life as a gamer -- NEVER -- felt as bad-ass as I did at points in that game. There's no cyborg space-marine, gruff stealth-commando, or brutal ninja who felt as heroic to me as that 8-year-old elf. And I must say, while I'm sure I'll pick up the new "Gritty Zelda" (quality is quality, after all), I'm really disappointed that all the whiners got their way on this one.
 
I enjoyed OoT, but I loved WW. I cannot condemn the one game that made me feel as if I was finally playing a cartoon. The ideas, art direction, characters, story, et. for WW have been my absolute favorite in this series. While the final battle from OoT is a sight to behold, to me the final sword vs. sword showdown in WW is unrivaled. I think this samurai incarnation of Ganon is the best yet...Ah! this game is so great!!! This is the one Zelda, besides the original, that I did not have to force myself to finish. To me that makes it my favorite. This is however, my opinion, so yours may vary. :wink:
 
I thought OoT and WW were absolutly brilliant. OoT brought so many innovations to video games in general that saying it sucks b/c it inspired crappy grames is ludicrous {damn i wish i could spell}. I agree that I would have prefered the art to remain in WW style, but i'm still hyped by the change. I've played all the Zelda's, so I'm sure Nintendo won't go wrong w/ one of their huge franchises.
 
the new zelda? thank god, thats all i can say. wind waker was too easy, tedious, and just not fun to play. This was big Nintendo selling out to children and they pissed off many loyal fans. The only franchises Nintendo hasnt run into the ground would be Metriod and F-zero.
 
Ocarina of Time had more dungeons, WW had better dungeons, but less of them, and a horrible [manditory] fetch quest.

The Gameboy Zelda games are far better, as are the NES and SNES iterations.
 
Ocarina is definitely an awesome game, but unlike OoT, Wind Waker actually gave me the incentive to finish the game.
 
[quote name='DrunkTigerWoods']the new zelda? thank god, thats all i can say. wind waker was too easy, tedious, and just not fun to play. This was big Nintendo selling out to children and they pissed off many loyal fans. The only franchises Nintendo hasnt run into the ground would be Metriod and F-zero.[/quote]

that hads to be the stupidest thing i've ever read.

the new Zelda is Nintendo selling out to you "maturity" losers who enjoy over 70 million shades of brown in your games and very little colour.

If you want to talk about tedium, just refer back to OOt. everything about it screams tedium -- from the craptastic dungeon design, to the many boring NPCs(only exception being the big fat rock dude who danced to the forest music) to the horse Epona, who hanfdled like a tank, and often got caught up on poorly rendered pieces of ground, to the stealth sequences in the castle and the worst ever with those womens in the desert. I was begging for it to end by the end of the whale dungeon, and, in fact, first time i ever played it, back right after its release, I quit in that huge tree just after falling through the cobweb.

Of couse 2D Zeldas own all the 3D ones, but WW was a step in the right direction, after taking 10 steps back in OOT.

Plus tingle is argument enough for Wind Waker style graphics. I had nightmares after seeing him in Mangina Mask, But in WW, I wished to marry him.

Oh, and the Minish Cap has been renamed to the Magical Hood. Way to go, stupid NOA.
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']1. Wind Waker was niot another Ocarina is correct - it did not suck.

2. Ocarina was the untrue game

3. Nintendo sold out, and as a result, i will not buy any game made by them and released after the announcment new, only used so i do not put money in their stupid pockets.


OOt is the worst Zelda game ever, and may have singlehanded caused a great deal of what sucks with video games these days.[/quote]

I think you need to just go to hell.
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']1. Wind Waker was niot another Ocarina is correct - it did not suck.

2. Ocarina was the untrue game

3. Nintendo sold out, and as a result, i will not buy any game made by them and released after the announcment new, only used so i do not put money in their stupid pockets.


OOt is the worst Zelda game ever, and may have singlehanded caused a great deal of what sucks with video games these days.[/quote]

Worst zelda game ever, yet you have a picture of link from the sequal to WW as your avatar and wind waker is based off OOT, shouldnt that avatar be link from the nes zelda since your such a huge fan..........
 
[quote name='zewone']I enjoyed WW waaaaaaaaaaaay more than OoT. It was so shaq-fuing fun, I remember ditching school to play it.[/quote]

Ditching school to play WW.........., i left early to pic it up on release day but I dont think Id skip to play it, it was that good.
 
[quote name='redgopher'][quote name='DenisDFat']1. Wind Waker was niot another Ocarina is correct - it did not suck.

2. Ocarina was the untrue game

3. Nintendo sold out, and as a result, i will not buy any game made by them and released after the announcment new, only used so i do not put money in their stupid pockets.


OOt is the worst Zelda game ever, and may have singlehanded caused a great deal of what sucks with video games these days.[/quote]

I think you need to just go to hell.[/quote]

WORD
 
I think you are the only person who thinks that OOT contributed to the "mature" game trend. I believe that GTA3 and about one million other games started that trend. That being said, I loved Wind Waker. Its style was wonderful. I missed having an overworld I could walk on though. The boat was interesting at first, but got old after a while. I will buy any Zelda game, assuming the quality of the gameplay does not drop off.
 
[quote name='Nirvanaguy777'][quote name='DenisDFat']1. Wind Waker was niot another Ocarina is correct - it did not suck.

2. Ocarina was the untrue game

3. Nintendo sold out, and as a result, i will not buy any game made by them and released after the announcment new, only used so i do not put money in their stupid pockets.


OOt is the worst Zelda game ever, and may have singlehanded caused a great deal of what sucks with video games these days.[/quote]

Worst zelda game ever, yet you have a picture of link from the sequal to WW as your avatar and wind waker is based off OOT, shouldnt that avatar be link from the nes zelda since your such a huge fan..........[/quote]

Oh Good Grfavy!
SHEESH!

Can you not read? Can you not see what the icon says and how it censures the game?

and the sailing is really overstated. Especially when compared to traversing an empty brown brown and green field.
 
[quote name='zewone']The boat was better than riding a horse. At least they did something new, plus you could warp almost anywhere later in the game. The combat system was the best ever for any Zelda game. They were trying something new and I wish the sequel still was cel-shaded. It was a beautiful game to watch[/quote]

Yeah, I got my hopes up when they said they would be reusing the engine for another gamecube Zelda. What they didn't say is that it wouldn't look a thing like WW. Oh well...I hope the story for this new one is really strong....
 
You know 'Celda" incurred an amazing amount of hostility when it was first shown... and now people are vicsiously defending it. How about not hyping or degrading a game till its actually out?
 
[quote name='DrunkTigerWoods']the new zelda? thank god, thats all i can say. wind waker was too easy, tedious, and just not fun to play. This was big Nintendo selling out to children and they pissed off many loyal fans. The only franchises Nintendo hasnt run into the ground would be Metriod and F-zero.[/quote]

So changing the graphics immediately improves on the gameplay that you were whining about? Perhaps you may need to *shudder* PLAY THE GAME before making a judgement like that. Admit it, you were a cel-shading hater.

You may be running with the quote that Miyamoto & Co said about making the controls "grow up" alongside the character in its transition from WW. "Grown up" controls do not necessarily mean the game will be any more difficult, or the gameplay any less "tedious," then WW. For all we know, Link could build a soapbox derby racer as his transportation. Tedium would be pushing the cart up the hill before you could use it.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']You know 'Celda" incurred an amazing amount of hostility when it was first shown... and now people are vicsiously defending it. How about not hyping or degrading a game till its actually out?[/quote]

You're right. I'm just a little dissapointed, that's all...and for the record I was always rooting for "Celda".
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']You know 'Celda" incurred an amazing amount of hostility when it was first shown... and now people are vicsiously defending it. How about not hyping or degrading a game till its actually out?[/quote]

I think it's a kind of backlash from the people (Celda supporters) who took quite the written beatings over the last few years from SpaceWorld Zelda people. "Now it's time to bitch back! Rally the troops!"

Plus, OOT fanatics are very close in breed to FF7 fanatics. New to the series with the 3d iteration, the first one they play HAS to be the end-all be-all of video games, right? Fanatics bother me even if I'm a big fan of the game that they obsess over. I liked OOT. I've played through it a handful of times. MM was better, tWW was better, LTTP was better. But OOT was great nontheless. OOT [FF7 too!] fanatics, however, need to break a couple of fingers so that the rate at which they spread their propaganda is slowed to 10-15wpm.

Personally, so long as the game is fun, and doesn't look cheap/badly produced, I'll play it and enjoy it. The next Zelda could be black and white with film grain (emulating 1940's popcorn fodder), with Link resembling James Cagney, and I could care less.
 
When it was first shown that august night in 2001, i finally cared about zelda again. In fact, at first it looked as itf it may be a re-envisioned Zelda 1, with the round trees and brown shirt with green tunic.

Now Link is all angsty.
 
Well, that's a bit unfair. FF7 is my second fav game of all time (next to Chrono Trigger), but my reason for liking it was the feeling that it gave me and how I felt for and liked all the characters (yes, even the annoying Cait Sith). Just none of the other FF's (except 4 and 9) appealed to me in the same way.

As for OoT, I thought it was fantastic, but by no means is it my favorite in the series (that goes to LTTP, not b/c of old school feel, but just b/c it brought so much to the series and video games as a whole). Although the amount of dungeons in WW bothered me, I believed it was balanced by the sheer size and complexity of the dungeons. The new design of Link and Co. doesn't bother me (really, graphics don't matter as long as it's supported by good gameplay and story telling) as long as the gameplay doesn't suffer. Basicly, if it doesn't screw w/ the great gameplay, I'll love it
 
I simply loved Ocarina of Time as well as Wind Waker. I have Majoras Mask on GC but I havent played it yet. The whole playing around with time feature makes me worried that it will get repetitive.
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']When it was first shown that august night in 2001, i finally cared about zelda again. In fact, at first it looked as itf it may be a re-envisioned Zelda 1, with the round trees and brown shirt with green tunic.

Now Link is all angsty.[/quote]

Yes, and thanks to a marketing deal it's now Todd McFarlane's Legend of Zelda.
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']
OOt is the worst Zelda game ever, and may have singlehanded caused a great deal of what sucks with video games these days.[/quote]

I would just like to say, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That is why we live in this country and have free speech. And that means everyone in this thread and other threads can say whatever they want; it is their opinion.

I do have a problem with the statement above. DenisDFat addresses OOT as if it were a fact, when it is actually his opinion. With the mere addition of "I think" at the beginning would rectify this.

Many people posting "I think..." and their opinion, liking or disliking, on a game have every right to do so.

Those that state their opinion as fact, should reconsider to make other readers more comfortable and to avoid flame wars.

Bush is president of the US. That is a fact, and cannot be refuted. OOT being the worst game ever, is not a fact, it is an opinion, as clearly has been refuted.
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Thank you! :)
 
[quote name='Nirvanaguy777'][quote name='DenisDFat']1. Wind Waker was niot another Ocarina is correct - it did not suck.

2. Ocarina was the untrue game

3. Nintendo sold out, and as a result, i will not buy any game made by them and released after the announcment new, only used so i do not put money in their stupid pockets.


OOt is the worst Zelda game ever, and may have singlehanded caused a great deal of what sucks with video games these days.[/quote]

Worst zelda game ever, yet you have a picture of link from the sequal to WW as your avatar and wind waker is based off OOT, shouldnt that avatar be link from the nes zelda since your such a huge fan..........[/quote]


First off, how the hell would WW be a sequel of OoT and the next Zelda game be a sequel of WW? Second, if you noticed, it kinda looks like he's making fun of mature Link 'cause he put that make-up and stuff on him.
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']

that hads to be the stupidest thing i've ever read.

the new Zelda is Nintendo selling out to you "maturity" losers who enjoy over 70 million shades of brown in your games and very little colour.
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My main problem with WW is not the graphics, its the gameplay. I dont like the graphic style but I'd be willing to overlook it if the game was any good. Being forced to sail from place to place is chore and in no way fun. This may have been better if they didnt make sailing the main focus of the game, but rather just as a side quest. The game is way too easy, every Zelda game in the past had some level of difficulty. Not WW, anyone can blow through this game. The only thing I liked about this game was the story and how it fleshed out the Zelda legacy. Overall: I think its the worst Zelda game.
 
Um...the CDi games are definitely the worst. And I have never liked Zelda II: Links Adventure. It just never did it for me.
 
[quote name='DrunkTigerWoods'] My main problem with WW is not the graphics, its the gameplay. I dont like the graphic style but I'd be willing to overlook it if the game was any good. Being forced to sail from place to place is chore and in no way fun. This may have been better if they didnt make sailing the main focus of the game, but rather just as a side quest. The game is way too easy, every Zelda game in the past had some level of difficulty. Not WW, anyone can blow through this game. The only thing I liked about this game was the story and how it fleshed out the Zelda legacy. Overall: I think its the worst Zelda game.[/quote]

Yeah, but very little gameplay in WW was changed from OoT/MM. Sure, there's sailing instead of a horse, but it's not like they reinvented the franchise. And yes, WW was easy ... but again, it's not like OoT was Ninja Gaiden by comparison. The fact that you think it's the worst Zelda game pretty is a pretty big clue that you never played the frequently side-scrolling Zelda II or (*shudder*) any of the 3DO games. That in turn tells me that OoT was probably your first Zelda game, no?
 
There are no 3do games, and Zelda 2 is very underrated and is in the hated because it's different categry.

and OOT, FF7, and Chrono Trigger are the massivly overrated games that suck triumvirate.
 
OoT is pretty damn fun, I dunno what you're smoking.

As for WW, I felt the graphics style was out of place, but that's not my biggest qualm about it. The worst part was the easiness (quarter of a heart taken for getting hit??) and the tedium of sailing...sailing alone kills any desire of me wanting to play the game again. The new Zelda easily looks more in tune with the Zeldas of yore, it has an epic look, and much of the medieval setting that one would expect from the Zelda series (just like the Zelda cartoons).
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']There are no 3do games, and Zelda 2 is very underrated and is in the hated because it's different categry.

and OOT, FF7, and Chrono Trigger are the massivly overrated games that suck triumvirate.[/quote]

D'oh. That's not the first time I said CDi/3DO when I meant the other, and I'm sure it won't be the last.

Besides, get off my back -- I'm mostly agreeing with you here. :wink:
 
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