An open letter to that jackass at the N. Atlanta CC today:

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I am siding with JSweeney here, and removing all of my posts on this topic. It has degenerated into silliness, and I regret expressing my opinion in the first place.

Down with greed, long live CAG!!!
 
Well stated. Thankfully, I didn't have to see anything like that at my store - I sat with a friend and fellow CAG looking over lists, talking to some other guys who didn't even know about the deals that were scanning the racks. I'd like to think that if the games I was dying for were bought and not pulled by employees from the shelves, then at least they were bought a single copy at a time. Maybe two, if you're doing a friend or another CAG a favor.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Not bad.
Probably the best I've heard anyone say it tonight.
Most people have been whining, and been just as selfish in thier bitching as the complain about not getting what they wanted right after they talk about getting 10-20 games.
It's getting annoying.
But, bringing up the points you did makes it more worthwhile.

I had a ton of fun on my trip there. I saw more CC employees picking games off the shelf than anyone else, but they were also right there to tell me which games were 5 dollars as well. I talked with two or three other people as I picked up some games. It was a great experience. Heck, I even left my list I printed up with one of the other people searching the shelves.[/quote]

Agreed. I also left my list with other hunters.
 
that is pretty bad he wouldn't hook you up with the games you were willing to buy from him..that is terrible..i let a few freinds of mine on the deal and we all got games we wanted and we are both very happy...all three of us are going tomorrow to pick up some more from another local CC....i wish you the best of luck
 
I am siding with JSweeney here, and removing all of my posts on this topic. It has degenerated into silliness, and I regret expressing my opinion in the first place.

Down with greed, long live CAG!!!
 
Well, you pretty much summed up how I feel about the whole issue. Well said.
 
[quote name='organicow']Sweeny - amen!

I actually left my list with a CC employee with whom i was (perhaps a bit loudly ;)) discussing the greed of that guy.

To me, half the fun of a deal like this is getting to share the excitement with others; whether that fun comes in the store aisles, at home on CAG, or hanging with buddies!

Shit, I WAS disapointed that I couldn't get some games I wanted, and it would have been real easy to just whine about it. But to me, its not just about the games; its about the bigger issue of generosity and kindness being seriously lacking these days. It was like rubbing salt in my wound to see that jerk with not one, but MANY copies of the games I wanted.

BOOO HOOOO!!![/quote]

You had an encounter with a growing problem in our society, selfish-greedy-look out for only me and #$)* anyone else, Good to hear the other stories in the thread about people helping each other out, I greatly appreciate your statement about 'half the fun is sharing with others', Just keep it up, the more love that is shared the better, don't get too worked up over that dork, its sad that guy chooses to go through life that way but screw him,

Now if only there were a CC in Manitoba, ND, Sask, or anywhere withing 800 miles )%$*
 
Right on organicow. Luckily I didn't experience this kind of thing at my circuit city, but I feel for the people who did especially those in nearby San Diego(*ahem*chaoz).

I went back today to pickup a few more games that were posted after I had already been to CC the first time. There were a few people there, some with lists, some without. So I took it upon myself to share the wealth with the people who were clueless to the deal, give them my list, and help them look for and recommend games.

There's no reason to be greedy with the cheap ass games. Have some cheapass ethics.
 
I buy in mass loads at sales like these but I don't hesitate to bring sales games to others attention where it only means a measely few bucks less to me. If I see a pile of Disgaea's I'm grabbing the lot but for most stuff I get some pleasure out of connecting people to the deals.

OTher CAgs had ample opportunity to get in befor eme since the CC web site gave the wrong opening time at all the nearby stores. When I got there at 10:40 AM I expected to cool my heels for a while reading until they opened. It turned out they and all the others opened at 10 AM.

Any CAG who couldn't be bothered to get up early has no basis for complaint. 90% of life is just showing up.
 
I am siding with JSweeney here, and removing all of my posts on this topic. It has degenerated into silliness, and I regret expressing my opinion in the first place.

Down with greed, long live CAG!!!
 
I am siding with JSweeney here, and removing all of my posts on this topic. It has degenerated into silliness, and I regret expressing my opinion in the first place.

Down with greed, long live CAG!!!
 
Frankly, I'm amazed there was anything left after Saturday. I was quite pleasantly surprised that I found new items for my own library at 8 out of the 9 stores I examined today. The 9th store had only duplicates of stuff I'd found earlier but they were worth getting just to haul over to GameDude for some quick profit.

I doubt to many people are going to be upset because they mised out on Super Duper Sumos and Disney Party. Oddly, the best items I found in terms of resale were among the least desirable. I have to assume any Disgaea's at these stores were gone long ago or went instantly on Saturday.
 
Damn, that really sucks. I can't believe some people actually feel okay doing this. There were a couple people who pretty much cleaned out the local BB when they had the $5 sale, and I was only able to snag a single copy of fucking The Great Escape! That game was pretty shitty.

Needless to say, I'm going to be pissed as hell if the same people went and bought up the entire store again. I only want a few games and have no intention of buying multiples to sell. I just want some games to add to my collection.
 
[quote name='organicow']I like that: CHEAP ASS ETHICS!!

If only everyone had taken that class in high school, we'd be much better off!![/quote]

Too bad most people ignored the cheapass ethics post i did last night :)
 
[quote name='organicow'][quote name='epobirs']I buy in mass loads at sales like these but I don't hesitate to bring sales games to others attention where it only means a measely few bucks less to me. If I see a pile of Disgaea's I'm grabbing the lot but for most stuff I get some pleasure out of connecting people to the deals.

OTher CAgs had ample opportunity to get in befor eme since the CC web site gave the wrong opening time at all the nearby stores. When I got there at 10:40 AM I expected to cool my heels for a while reading until they opened. It turned out they and all the others opened at 10 AM.

Any CAG who couldn't be bothered to get up early has no basis for complaint. 90% of life is just showing up.[/quote]

See, this is what i'm talking about. You say yourself that "its just a few measly bucks," and yet you would still take the whole stack just because you could.

By that rationale, you would be justified in buying up 20 liver transplants even though you could only reasonably use one, just because they were there. Who cares if someone else needs one, right?! They should have gotten there sooner!!! HA!

Look, do what you want, and I won't whine about it. I just think that doing something like that isn't very nice, thats all.[/quote]

You aren't much on reading comprehension, are you? (I guess that explains the avatar.) I specifically said I go out of my way to bring shopper's attention to the deals that are of minimal value to me. I ake no apologies for seeking to make a profit. How do you think I pay for this stuff? To me, breaking even on a pile of games is part of the sport of CAG.

Your organ transplant analogy is not valid. I can in fact use all the games I buy in quantity because I can sell them for a profit and thus pay for the games I keep for myself. This is only a subset of the total list, perhaps 40% at best and less than that in actual practice due to most of the titles with significant resale value either being sold out before the sale or swept up before my arrival at the store.

Now, if I had a business brokering organ transplants that might make for a more functional analogy, although the idea of a suprise sale on vital organs where I might swoop in and corner the market beggars belief.

When I said 'a few measely bucks' I plainly meant money that I would forego making by bringing unmarked sale games to the attention of other shoppers just for the satisfaction of being hero of the moment, especially for the soccor moms despairing of Junior's expensive tastes. There's a major difference in the labor involved in selling a single game whose profits margin pays for half a dozen games I keep and moving a whole pile that only return two or three dollars in profit per unit. Thus my inclination to play nice when the personal satisfaction outweighs the profit potential.
 
[quote name='organicow']Dear Sir,

Remember me? We did not exchange names, but I'll bet you remember me; I'm the guy that called you a greedy, selfish asshole in front of about 20 people. Yeah, and now that I'm home, I really wish I'd gone that extra mile and punched you in the face.

I love games, especially when they're cheap. You know what else I love? I love running into another gamer in the aisle of a store during a sale, comparing lists, and treasure hunting. You know, help each other out, talk about games, etc. You know what really irritates me though? People like you.

You see, I went to 2 CCs today (starting at 11 am), and purchased a total of 12 games; not a bad haul by any means! After I bought the first 10 at one CC (where myself and 2 other gamers with lists chatted and compared notes), I figured I would hit another one in the area. When I walked in the door, I saw you at the register with literally HUNDREDS of games. I was shocked!! But, seeing as how this CC is always very well stoked, I figured I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, and check the racks anyway. Well, I found 2 games I wanted (you must have had a slightly out-of-date list, otherwise I'm sure you would have taken those as well), and headed to the register.
You were still there, since you had so many games, and so I took a gander at what you had. It was no surprise to see that you had multiple, multiple copies of every game, many of which I wanted.

Now, I don't need to go into the details of what happened next, because you and I were both there; suffice it to say however, that I gave you a very friendly opportunity to do the right thing before I proceeded to embarrass you. You see, I'm not a reseller. I'm a poor 27 year old college guy just looking to get 1 copy of some games I want. I mentioned very politely that you had multiple copies of some games I was looking for, and yet you refused to let me buy some. Thank you very much.

Before you point it out, I'll beat you to it: Making money is your right. Buying those games was perfectly legal, and there is nothing to stop you from doing it. And, I'm upset that I didn't get some games I wanted, while you did. I readily admit that. However, there is a really big difference between me missing out on a game simply because you beat me to it, and me missing out because you had to be greedy and buy every single copy they had. Think of it this way: As it was, you left happy (and maybe a little embarrassed) and I left disappointed. Had you just been a LITTLE less greedy, we both could have left happy. Hell, a few other people may have gotten games they wanted as well.

But hey, like I said, that was your right. I just wish that more people would realize that just because you CAN do something, that doesn't make it RIGHT. I am comfortable however with the fact that everything comes around in small ways; I will lose no sleep over this, and wish you no ill will. But, you know who you are and you should be ashamed.

Thank you,
a thankful CAG who believes in the antiquated notions of sharing and generosity.[/quote]

You snooze, you lose. If you wanted these games bad enough you would have bought them at their previous price. The guy could have been buying them and donating them to charity (you never know), but just because they're cheap games doesn't mean you're entitled to them if someone beats you to it. "Me, too, me too!". To bad, someone beat you to it. I'm sick of hearing these stories on the boards. If you wanted these games really, really bad enough you would have had them in your collection by now.

These are just GAMES, a luxury item, we are talking about...not food and water. I'm sure you'll live. The fact that you had to write this "letter" and do whatever you did in that store shows that this upset you greatly. You should be ashamed to be so upset over luxury items. I've missed out on many-of-a-deal and when I do, I move on and wait for the next one. Heck, I no longer hunt for games at B&M stores anymore...not worth my time and frustration if nothing is in stock. I'll take my chances online.
 
[quote name='bmarquardt'][quote name='organicow']Dear Sir,

Remember me? We did not exchange names, but I'll bet you remember me; I'm the guy that called you a greedy, selfish asshole in front of about 20 people. Yeah, and now that I'm home, I really wish I'd gone that extra mile and punched you in the face.

I love games, especially when they're cheap. You know what else I love? I love running into another gamer in the aisle of a store during a sale, comparing lists, and treasure hunting. You know, help each other out, talk about games, etc. You know what really irritates me though? People like you.

You see, I went to 2 CCs today (starting at 11 am), and purchased a total of 12 games; not a bad haul by any means! After I bought the first 10 at one CC (where myself and 2 other gamers with lists chatted and compared notes), I figured I would hit another one in the area. When I walked in the door, I saw you at the register with literally HUNDREDS of games. I was shocked!! But, seeing as how this CC is always very well stoked, I figured I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, and check the racks anyway. Well, I found 2 games I wanted (you must have had a slightly out-of-date list, otherwise I'm sure you would have taken those as well), and headed to the register.
You were still there, since you had so many games, and so I took a gander at what you had. It was no surprise to see that you had multiple, multiple copies of every game, many of which I wanted.

Now, I don't need to go into the details of what happened next, because you and I were both there; suffice it to say however, that I gave you a very friendly opportunity to do the right thing before I proceeded to embarrass you. You see, I'm not a reseller. I'm a poor 27 year old college guy just looking to get 1 copy of some games I want. I mentioned very politely that you had multiple copies of some games I was looking for, and yet you refused to let me buy some. Thank you very much.

Before you point it out, I'll beat you to it: Making money is your right. Buying those games was perfectly legal, and there is nothing to stop you from doing it. And, I'm upset that I didn't get some games I wanted, while you did. I readily admit that. However, there is a really big difference between me missing out on a game simply because you beat me to it, and me missing out because you had to be greedy and buy every single copy they had. Think of it this way: As it was, you left happy (and maybe a little embarrassed) and I left disappointed. Had you just been a LITTLE less greedy, we both could have left happy. Hell, a few other people may have gotten games they wanted as well.

But hey, like I said, that was your right. I just wish that more people would realize that just because you CAN do something, that doesn't make it RIGHT. I am comfortable however with the fact that everything comes around in small ways; I will lose no sleep over this, and wish you no ill will. But, you know who you are and you should be ashamed.

Thank you,
a thankful CAG who believes in the antiquated notions of sharing and generosity.[/quote]

You snooze, you lose. If you wanted these games bad enough you would have bought them at their previous price. The guy could have been buying them and donating them to charity (you never know), but just because they're cheap games doesn't mean you're entitled to them if someone beats you to it.

These are just GAMES, a luxury item, we are talking about...not food and water. I'm sure you'll live. The fact that you had to write this "letter" and do whatever you did in that store shows that this upset you. You should be ashamed to be so upset over luxury items. I've missed out on many-of-a-deal and when I do, I move on and wait for the next one. Heck, I no longer hunt for games at B&M stores anymore...not worth my time if nothing is in stock.[/quote]

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

Seriously, this whining reeks of feminine hygeine products. If you snooze, you lose. CAGs who wanted their pick of games were at the doors by 10AM. And if someone beat you to the games rack, better luck next time.

I didn't complain at all when I couldn't score during the Best Buy clearance because I knew I was beaten to the punch. I also realized that we're talking about videogames, and that there will always be more deals in the future.
 
While I don't think it's cool to buy out the store. I can't say that I agree with punching someone in the face just because they're buying a lot of games. I remember a while back, Blockbuster had this huge $5 N64 sale (this was when N64 was still popular. They opened at 10am, I went in at 10:20am. There was a cart full of games, I looked through them but the BB woman told me they had all been sold to this guy (and she pointed to him) and his wife. There were literally 100+ games on the cart. (2 sided library cart w/2 shelves each side, all full). I asked him what he was going to do with all those games (they were about 30-40 years old). He told me that they were going to donate them to Ronald McDonald house. Whether true or not, I had to give him the benefit of the doubt. You never know what someone's circumstances are.

I just went on to the next BB.
 
Can people stop complaining about others buying multiple copies of games for EBay and such? Damnit.

When I first read about this deal it was Friday afternoon. Within 10 minutes my shoes were on and I was in the car on my way to CC. If I had seen 30 Disgaea's there, I would've bought them all. Hey, if I can read the post and be at CC that fast so can you.

Hasn't anyone heard the expression "the early bird gets the worm"?

I can't comprehend how a guy buying a game for $5 and selling it for $10 or $15 is a bad thing at all. Apparently people around these parts are willing to part with that much for a copy of Disgaea, so to them it's a DEAL, and the first guy makes a few bucks off the time and effort of actually GETTING the game and shipping it out.

Y'know, some of you guys may want to drive around to 3 or 4 CCs just to find those 5 copies of Disgaea to sell for cost and be heroes. Sorry, but if I'm going to take time and effort to do something and someone else wants the product I own they damn well better be willing to pay for it and compensate me.

Also, some of these Ebay guys you people hate aren't really bad guys. If I had 30 copies of Disgaea in my hand and a guy came up and said "hey man, can I get a copy from you? I REALLY want that game..." I wouldn't hesitate for one solid SECOND to give him a copy. I'm sure if you saw a guy with a crapload of games and simply ASKED him "please PLEASE can you part with one of your copies" he would. People are nicer than you think.

That being said, I'm going to CC this morning when it opens and if I score a copy of Disgaea or REZ I'll probably simply trade them straight up for another $5 CC game since I really couldn't care less about selling on Ebay or making a profit.
 
[quote name='mmn']Can people stop complaining about others buying multiple copies of games for EBay and such? Damnit.

When I first read about this deal it was Friday afternoon. Within 10 minutes my shoes were on and I was in the car on my way to CC. If I had seen 30 Disgaea's there, I would've bought them all. Hey, if I can read the post and be at CC that fast so can you.

Hasn't anyone heard the expression "the early bird gets the worm"?

I can't comprehend how a guy buying a game for $5 and selling it for $10 or $15 is a bad thing at all. Apparently people around these parts are willing to part with that much for a copy of Disgaea, so to them it's a DEAL, and the first guy makes a few bucks off the time and effort of actually GETTING the game and shipping it out.

Y'know, some of you guys may want to drive around to 3 or 4 CCs just to find those 5 copies of Disgaea to sell for cost and be heroes. Sorry, but if I'm going to take time and effort to do something and someone else wants the product I own they damn well better be willing to pay for it and compensate me.

Also, some of these Ebay guys you people hate aren't really bad guys. If I had 30 copies of Disgaea in my hand and a guy came up and said "hey man, can I get a copy from you? I REALLY want that game..." I wouldn't hesitate for one solid SECOND to give him a copy. I'm sure if you saw a guy with a crapload of games and simply ASKED him "please PLEASE can you part with one of your copies" he would. People are nicer than you think.

That being said, I'm going to CC this morning when it opens and if I score a copy of Disgaea or REZ I'll probably simply trade them straight up for another $5 CC game since I really couldn't care less about selling on Ebay or making a profit.[/quote]

I think the entire point of this thread is that Cheapassgamer is a place where gamers come to find cheap games and help spread the wealth throughout the community. When people go to sites like this for the sole reason of trying to horde all games at stores solely to make a profit off it, it's naturally frowned upon by the majority of the community here.

By buying all the games and selling them for a higher price, these people are taking away the good deals that others could have received.

The point of CAG isn't to try to pad your wallets, it's to get you some cheap ass games so you can play them and enjoy them. If the only reason you're coming here is to try to make money, then I think the most people here would rather not have you.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']I think the entire point of this thread is that Cheapassgamer is a place where gamers come to find cheap games and help spread the wealth throughout the community. When people go to sites like this for the sole reason of trying to horde all games at stores solely to make a profit off it, it's naturally frowned upon by the majority of the community here.

By buying all the games and selling them for a higher price, these people are taking away the good deals that others could have received.

The point of CAG isn't to try to pad your wallets, it's to get you some cheap ass games so you can play them and enjoy them. If the only reason you're coming here is to try to make money, then I think the most people here would rather not have you.[/quote]

Indeed. :applause:
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']The point of CAG isn't to try to pad your wallets, it's to get you some cheap ass games so you can play them and enjoy them. If the only reason you're coming here is to try to make money, then I think the most people here would rather not have you.[/quote]

That's my main contention. I think it pretty much runs counter to the spirit of the site to use the games to make a profit, regardless of the rationale behind it. Do what you want in sales like this, but don't pretend you're not a dick for keeping cheap ass games out of the hands of cheap ass gamers.
 
[quote name='jmcc']but don't pretend you're not a dick for keeping cheap ass games out of the hands of cheap ass gamers. [/quote]

This sums up my point of view exactly. People will get on here and defend someone with an entire shopping cart full of games and say, oh its a capitalist society, the early bird gets the worm, etc. None of that changes the fact that whoever does that is a huge dick for doing it.
 
I admit if I see cheap games like this, I'll by a game, and then maybe two or three of the same to sell on ebay to pay for the game I bought. But I always leave some left for others. I got to best buy when the unreal tournament limited edition DVD just came out of the box. There was probably 20 games there. I could have bought them all and made a thousand bucks but just took three. My wife thinks I'm crazy and should grab everything I can. She doesn't understand this is like the Wild West and there is a code. You take what you need and leave the rest for the others. I believe the early bird should get a little more than those that come later, but Circuit City should really limit the quantities it sells to an individual.

Giddyap.
 
[quote name='mmn']

Also, some of these Ebay guys you people hate aren't really bad guys. If I had 30 copies of Disgaea in my hand and a guy came up and said "hey man, can I get a copy from you? I REALLY want that game..." I wouldn't hesitate for one solid SECOND to give him a copy. I'm sure if you saw a guy with a crapload of games and simply ASKED him "please PLEASE can you part with one of your copies" he would. People are nicer than you think.
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I think you missed this part of Organicow's original post: "Now, I don't need to go into the details of what happened next, because you and I were both there; suffice it to say however, that I gave you a very friendly opportunity to do the right thing before I proceeded to embarrass you. You see, I'm not a reseller. I'm a poor 27 year old college guy just looking to get 1 copy of some games I want. I mentioned very politely that you had multiple copies of some games I was looking for, and yet you refused to let me buy some. Thank you very much."

These things always come down to two opposing points of view. The ones who say the mass buyers are dicks (I'm in this camp) are the ones who resent the lack of consideration and common human decency they see everywhere they look in society. The ones who say "Too bad, you lost out, deal with it" don't care as much that society lacks those qualities, because in most cases they lack those qualities themselves. (IMHO)
 
I am siding with JSweeney here, and removing all of my posts on this topic. It has degenerated into silliness, and I regret expressing my opinion in the first place.

Down with greed, long live CAG!!!
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']I think the entire point of this thread is that Cheapassgamer is a place where gamers come to find cheap games and help spread the wealth throughout the community. When people go to sites like this for the sole reason of trying to horde all games at stores solely to make a profit off it, it's naturally frowned upon by the majority of the community here.

By buying all the games and selling them for a higher price, these people are taking away the good deals that others could have received.

The point of CAG isn't to try to pad your wallets, it's to get you some cheap ass games so you can play them and enjoy them. If the only reason you're coming here is to try to make money, then I think the most people here would rather not have you.[/quote]

I couldn't agree more. I have absolutely no problem hearing that 50 guys walked out of my CC with copies of games I was looking for, it just seems way too greedy to just take every copy of everything when you know you won't be buying them. People post deals like this so that others can get the games that they want to play for cheap, not so people can buy games for cheap and turn a quick profit on them. When I was at CC yesterday, I bumped into a handful of other people who came with lists from FatWallet or CAG, and we helped each other out. I beat out a friend of mine to the only copy of Dynasty Warriors 4, but gave it to him 'cause he wanted it more. I saw copies of PSO 1&2, Freaky Flyers, Voodoo Vince, and Lunar Legend and didn't get them because I figured I'd leave the games I knew I wouldn't have time to get to for someone else to enjoy.
 
I've bought about 20 games over the last 2 days. So far, about half of them im keeping for myself. The other half will either be traded (when there's something I want) or ebay'd to make back the money i spent.

Wrong? Right? Do i care? No, not really. Thats my situation, and thats how its going down.

Side note : Devil May Cry 2 kinda sucks...i might have to go pick up the original.
 
It's really too bad ebay and all of these games stores deal in reselling of games. I think it hurts the gaming industry. I picked up several games none if which I intend to resell. If these businesses did not exist greedy bastards would not be buying all the games.

I gave my list to a kid who was looking through the bargain bin once I was done... and their were lots of good deal games still on the shelves.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']I think the entire point of this thread is that Cheapassgamer is a place where gamers come to find cheap games and help spread the wealth throughout the community. When people go to sites like this for the sole reason of trying to horde all games at stores solely to make a profit off it, it's naturally frowned upon by the majority of the community here.

By buying all the games and selling them for a higher price, these people are taking away the good deals that others could have received.

The point of CAG isn't to try to pad your wallets, it's to get you some cheap ass games so you can play them and enjoy them. If the only reason you're coming here is to try to make money, then I think the most people here would rather not have you.[/quote]
Very nice, I wish more people thought that way, I know most cag's do, at least organicow does. I'm not a fan of the "you snooze you lose" defense. You shouldn't have to defend your purchase of games.
 
First come first serve, man Just becuase you are a 27 year old college kid makes no pitty for him to be sorry and hand over all his games. I only got 2 games out of this deal (dead to rights, and super duper sumos) I was very happy with what I picked up. you have 12 and wanted more who is being greedy?
 
[quote name='organicow']Sweeny - amen!

I actually left my list with a CC employee with whom i was (perhaps a bit loudly ;)) discussing the greed of that guy.

To me, half the fun of a deal like this is getting to share the excitement with others; whether that fun comes in the store aisles, at home on CAG, or hanging with buddies!

Shit, I WAS disapointed that I couldn't get some games I wanted, and it would have been real easy to just whine about it. But to me, its not just about the games; its about the bigger issue of generosity and kindness being seriously lacking these days. It was like rubbing salt in my wound to see that jerk with not one, but MANY copies of the games I wanted.

BOOO HOOOO!!![/quote]


See to me it still is about greed would you of wrote this post in the other light if he would of let you have some of the games?. would you of wrote a post about the how nice a reseller man was for leting you have the games you wanted?. See I have learned that every cheap deal even before CAG there is always resellers attacking good deals that why you see it in ads at the bottom real small (no reseller please, this is big at compusa) and no I am not being an asshole I am playing devil's advocate.
 
[quote name='organicow']wow, there are some real jerks on here!! i don't know that i could possibly say it clearer than i already did, but i'll try:

If you want to buy every single game at your local CC, go ahead: it's your right, and no one is stopping you. The fact that you CAN do this however, does not mean that you SHOULD.

I understand that the gaming hobby can be a self-financing one; I often buy more than one copy of a game so i can keep one and sell the others to cover my cost. BUT, that is very very different from buying up every single copy of every single sale item.

Additionally, my main gripe with this guy was that he made no attempt to share, and showed no sense of 'gamer community.' Now, this did not surprise me; I'm not a moron who thinks that everyone is full of rainbows and teddy bears.

The only reason for my post was to vent, with the vain hope that the subject of my post might well use these boards. As for the person who said above, "I can't say that I agree with punching someone in the face just because they're buying a lot of games." NO SHIT. That's why I didn't punch him. And I'd also like to note that HAD I punched him, it would not have been because I wanted his games (or "material things" as you put it), but rather because his unwillingness to share and be thoughtfull is symptomatic of a greater societal problem. THis is what bothers me.

And thank you to whoever insulted my reading comprehension skills, and whoever said that this obviously really upset me and that I should get over it. Yeah? NO SHIT. That's why my OP and each susequent post has been composed in a mature, calm way. I am not upset, and for the last time:

THE ISSUE IS NOT THE GAMES THEMSELVES, BUT RATHER THE FACT THAT THIS SITUATION IS INDICATIVE OF THE COMMONALITY OF ASSHOLE BEHAVIOR.

Over and out.[/quote]

game over you lose. If you are even thinking of punching someone over games, then YOU are the asshole not him. I have been assed out of deals plenty of times. I went yesterday to a cc at 10am and grabbed the 2 copies of disgaea, they were both behind random games, and I went to go and get price checks on others. A guy asked me if i got all the disgaeas, i told him there were only two, i was going to give one to a friend but then i told him my friend may have lucked out. I gave the guy my extra disgaea and said, "share the cheap love". He looked shocked and said "thanks" and paid and left.

I went to a few other stores and got the last copy of a LOT of games i wanted, and so imo the karma paid off. I have had a lot of people tell me i was nuts to give away a disgaea, but i figure I have been assed out enough times or had the dude at frys tell me "just sold the last one" to justify this. I made this guys day.

I dont think you are right to threaten the guy buying lots of games, and call him names, that just reflects bad on you. No offense organicow you are the only asshole here. Just because someone doesnt want to be cool and share doesnt make it right for you to over react. A loser is you.
 
[quote name='dracula'][quote name='organicow']wow, there are some real jerks on here!! i don't know that i could possibly say it clearer than i already did, but i'll try:

If you want to buy every single game at your local CC, go ahead: it's your right, and no one is stopping you. The fact that you CAN do this however, does not mean that you SHOULD.

I understand that the gaming hobby can be a self-financing one; I often buy more than one copy of a game so i can keep one and sell the others to cover my cost. BUT, that is very very different from buying up every single copy of every single sale item.

Additionally, my main gripe with this guy was that he made no attempt to share, and showed no sense of 'gamer community.' Now, this did not surprise me; I'm not a moron who thinks that everyone is full of rainbows and teddy bears.

The only reason for my post was to vent, with the vain hope that the subject of my post might well use these boards. As for the person who said above, "I can't say that I agree with punching someone in the face just because they're buying a lot of games." NO SHIT. That's why I didn't punch him. And I'd also like to note that HAD I punched him, it would not have been because I wanted his games (or "material things" as you put it), but rather because his unwillingness to share and be thoughtfull is symptomatic of a greater societal problem. THis is what bothers me.

And thank you to whoever insulted my reading comprehension skills, and whoever said that this obviously really upset me and that I should get over it. Yeah? NO SHIT. That's why my OP and each susequent post has been composed in a mature, calm way. I am not upset, and for the last time:

THE ISSUE IS NOT THE GAMES THEMSELVES, BUT RATHER THE FACT THAT THIS SITUATION IS INDICATIVE OF THE COMMONALITY OF ASSHOLE BEHAVIOR.

Over and out.[/quote]

game over you lose. If you are even thinking of punching someone over games, then YOU are the asshole not him. I have been assed out of deals plenty of times. I went yesterday to a cc at 10am and grabbed the 2 copies of disgaea, they were both behind random games, and I went to go and get price checks on others. A guy asked me if i got all the disgaeas, i told him there were only two, i was going to give one to a friend but then i told him my friend may have lucked out and I gave him a disgaea. He looked shocked and said "thanks" and paid and left.

I went to a few other stores and got the last copy of a LOT of games i wanted, and so imo the karma paid off. I have had a lot of people tell me i was nuts to give away a disgaea, but i figure I have been assed out enough times or had the dude at frys tell me "just sold the last one" to justify this. I made this guys day.

I dont think you are right to threaten the guy buying lots of games, and call him names, that just reflects bad on you. No offense organicow you are the only asshole here. Just because someone doesnt want to be cool and share doesnt make it right for you to over react. A loser is you.[/quote]

Well, now we know who 'Cow's post was talking about.
 
I just think that if there were a stack of $50 bills that they were selling for 50 cents it'd be dumb not to buy them all.

To the people who feel that's wrong - if you saw a whole bunch of Disgaea and Rez games for, oh, let's say $1.00 each, you wouldn't buy them all? You'd honestly leave them for other people and take only ONE copy?

If so, hey, good for you guys, you're the most moral and honest people I've ever talked to on the internet.

Personally I only do get 1 copy of games and I never have sold on Ebay but I can understand the rationale for wanting to make some easy money. It's human nature, nothing wrong with it at all. If it had nothing to do with video games you all would be all for it, but because we're supposed to be part of a "community" its different? How hypocritical is that?
 
exactly, i didnt have to give the second disgaea away, but i did, i made that guys day. I dont expect everyone to be generous that way tho. What i have no respect for is the guys who bitch about not getting their way. Like someone said, it really isnt anyones business if you are a 27 year old student without a lot of money. that is how life is sometimes. If you get stessed to the point of wanting to hit someone over videogames, then you need anger management classes. It aint worth the stress.
 
[quote name='dracula'][quote name='organicow']wow, there are some real jerks on here!! i don't know that i could possibly say it clearer than i already did, but i'll try:

If you want to buy every single game at your local CC, go ahead: it's your right, and no one is stopping you. The fact that you CAN do this however, does not mean that you SHOULD.

I understand that the gaming hobby can be a self-financing one; I often buy more than one copy of a game so i can keep one and sell the others to cover my cost. BUT, that is very very different from buying up every single copy of every single sale item.

Additionally, my main gripe with this guy was that he made no attempt to share, and showed no sense of 'gamer community.' Now, this did not surprise me; I'm not a moron who thinks that everyone is full of rainbows and teddy bears.

The only reason for my post was to vent, with the vain hope that the subject of my post might well use these boards. As for the person who said above, "I can't say that I agree with punching someone in the face just because they're buying a lot of games." NO SHIT. That's why I didn't punch him. And I'd also like to note that HAD I punched him, it would not have been because I wanted his games (or "material things" as you put it), but rather because his unwillingness to share and be thoughtfull is symptomatic of a greater societal problem. THis is what bothers me.

And thank you to whoever insulted my reading comprehension skills, and whoever said that this obviously really upset me and that I should get over it. Yeah? NO SHIT. That's why my OP and each susequent post has been composed in a mature, calm way. I am not upset, and for the last time:

THE ISSUE IS NOT THE GAMES THEMSELVES, BUT RATHER THE FACT THAT THIS SITUATION IS INDICATIVE OF THE COMMONALITY OF ASSHOLE BEHAVIOR.

Over and out.[/quote]

game over you lose. If you are even thinking of punching someone over games, then YOU are the asshole not him. I have been assed out of deals plenty of times. I went yesterday to a cc at 10am and grabbed the 2 copies of disgaea, they were both behind random games, and I went to go and get price checks on others. A guy asked me if i got all the disgaeas, i told him there were only two, i was going to give one to a friend but then i told him my friend may have lucked out and I gave him a disgaea. He looked shocked and said "thanks" and paid and left.

I went to a few other stores and got the last copy of a LOT of games i wanted, and so imo the karma paid off. I have had a lot of people tell me i was nuts to give away a disgaea, but i figure I have been assed out enough times or had the dude at frys tell me "just sold the last one" to justify this. I made this guys day.

I dont think you are right to threaten the guy buying lots of games, and call him names, that just reflects bad on you. No offense organicow you are the only asshole here. Just because someone doesnt want to be cool and share doesnt make it right for you to over react. A loser is you.[/quote]

I prolly would want to punch someone too.
 
well, it is a good thing he didnt punch someone, with plenty of witnesses, that is assault and battery

that just aint worth it. 30 days in the county jail? sheesh no thanks. My cc are pretty much cleaned out now, i dont think i will go back, i might check for some circuitcity.com deals tho for the megaman games.
 
This cracks me up:[quote name='epobirs']There's a major difference in the labor involved in selling a single game whose profits margin pays for half a dozen games I keep and moving a whole pile that only return two or three dollars in profit per unit. [/quote]

LOL. What labor? Let's see, driving to the store, gabbing a bunch of games and walking to the counter. Opening up a wallet. Walking bags of games to the car. Driving the car home. Possibly turning on a computer and typing in www.ebay.com. Writing the name of the game and a few sentences for each. Hittting the button called post or sell or whatever. Yeah, I feel sooo inspired on what you sacrificed to help those people. :roll:
 
I am siding with JSweeney here, and removing all of my posts on this topic. It has degenerated into silliness, and I regret expressing my opinion in the first place.

Down with greed, long live CAG!!!
 
organicow - I feel you man... I saw plenty of those guys with baskets full and I gave them looks like "I see titles in there I want" but they just rushed off hurriedly... but the point which others are making isn't so much against what you may be intending the OP to be, but what people have rallied behind the post...

If I had the cash, I woulda bought a ton of games because I love having a massive collection of games (sorta like a DVD collection)... but instead I was overwhelmed by the pick and choose. Regardless, I still believe the fact that you are writing a letter to this guy, prick he may be, displays a certain level of entitlement that just should not be expected. Sure we can feel we are deserving to be treated considerately - in fact I believe all people should be - but if the intention of your letter was to gripe at this guy for not giving you the games, that is a reason I cannot stand behind. However, and I hope this is true, if the reason is purely because he was an ass about it, then that's fine - But, the post should just be about how this deal has brought out inconsiderate jerks and let's leave it at that.

Beyond that, what justifies reacting to rudeness with more rudeness? I understand one can get really angry when confronted with stupidity and arrogance (money matters especially bring this out), but if we are gonna preach ethics, we should abide by them fully and completely as well.

Good points are being made for both sides, but the best I've heard is "to each his/her own" ... In the end, the only thing we have control of in life is our own thoughts and emotions; we can choose whether or not to react to a situation a certain way and that's all that matters.

EDIT: spelling
 
[quote name='organicow']PS. Don't you guys think it fitting that we all came into contact with the best AND worst of people on July 4th?! That pretty much sums up the US, huh!?![/quote]

YES! Excellent obversation.
 
It's funny. All the people who are saying stuff like "you snooze you lose," or "the early bird catches the worm," or "tough shit," are the ones who complain when someone clears out a good deal online and bitches how the guy was just gonna sell them on ebay.
Don't you think it would be NICE to let others enjoy a deal? Sure it is your right to buy whatever you want, but I'm sure if you were in teh same position as organicow you would feel the same.
 
Lessons learned:
1. All people are selfish assholes.
2. Some people are less selfish assholes than others
3.There are limits of reason. If you went and bought 200+ games yesterday, or 20+ copies of one title, that is unreasonable.

I think many of the arguments that are spawning from this are those provoked by the people that are buying games in excess of what would appear to be reasonable levels, which is a rather difficult thing to quantify.

That's what is so difficult about these arugments...
save the few just plain ridiculous posts, just about everyone is right.... and trying to find out who is "more right" is just fruitless.
 
[quote name='multi']This cracks me up:[quote name='epobirs']There's a major difference in the labor involved in selling a single game whose profits margin pays for half a dozen games I keep and moving a whole pile that only return two or three dollars in profit per unit. [/quote]

LOL. What labor? Let's see, driving to the store, gabbing a bunch of games and walking to the counter. Opening up a wallet. Walking bags of games to the car. Driving the car home. Possibly turning on a computer and typing in www.ebay.com. Writing the name of the game and a few sentences for each. Hittting the button called post or sell or whatever. Yeah, I feel sooo inspired on what you sacrificed to help those people. :roll:[/quote]

So apparently your time is worthless. I, on the other hand see my time as having some value. If it takes me ten minutes to make the same amount of money compared to over an hour by having to engage in multiple transactions to achieve the same net amount then that is a far better way to use my time. Otherwise the time wasted on those multiple items is time I don't get for other things like actually sitting down and playing the games.

If you cannot comprehend the factor of time in a rate of return on an investment then I strongly suggest you never go into business for yourself lest you put in a whole day's work for what turns out to be less than minimum wage after all is said and done.

My eBay rating stands at 714. Most of that was received during a single year when I had a lot of material that was worth selling because the profit margin considered against the individual time for the item worked out to be comparable to a ggod working wage. I could easily have that rating into the thousands if I was willing to do auctions that only cleared two or three dollars after fees. A long time ago I timed how long each item typically took to process and found that if I only make 2 or 3 dollars on an item it's not worth the time to deal with the buyer, box up the item, and get it shipped. It doesn't get any better if you're doing this one at a time or a hundred a day. When minimum wage or better jobs that involve little more than sitting around and waiting for a phone to ring in the dead of night are easily available you have to use some logic in determining whether buying an item for resale is worth your time and effort.

I knew going in that it was very unlikely I'd find anything worth putting on eBay. I didn't see a single copy of Disgaea the whole day. What did make it worthwhile to buy multiples of some items was that a local dealer in used games would give me cash immediately. No setting up of auctions and no fees. Just walk in and walk out. If that opportunity didn't exist I would not have bought multiples of anything as I don't have much interest in trading.
 
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