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#301 XP1   XP1 CAGiversary!   358 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:52 AM

There are a lot of people posting about their bans. Read the posts here while they are still fresh:
http://www.cheapassg...view=getnewpost

EDIT: Posts have been moved to a new thread:
http://www.cheapassg...ing-discussion/

#302 benjamouth   Thanks Larry Davis for the sig !! CAGiversary!   7541 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:14 PM

So MS just delisted 11 WP7 games, so if my phone breaks now I'll never be able to get those games back, games I paid money for!

 

Anyone care to comment on why it's ok for MS to do this, bearing in mind recent events.


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#303 Bulls23  

Posted 14 October 2013 - 04:59 AM

Deals

#304 texasnightowl  

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:54 PM

So, I'm new to this morality thread but apparently this is where I need to be since I'm fed up with the fraudsters on the Target B2G1 and 30% threads. Scanning the coupon and using an app (SnipSnap?) to put it on your phone so only the barcode shows when the original coupon is printed out by Target coupon printers at the register and is supposed to be invalid if scanned, etc.

 

Then the folks purposely buying 3 games with the B2G1 and returning 2 of them...on purpose!...to get the 3rd game for $2 or $3 or in some cases for free and/or with money back!

 

I admit to buying several games with the B2G1...9 in fact!  But with one exception, all games that I wanted and intend to play. And that one exception was one I let the electronics dept. guy talk me into.

 

I guess I spent too much time over in those threads over the past week and it continuously went downhill as the week went on.

 

And speaking of coupon and/or return fraud...can we or should we report specific posts?


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#305 RedvsBlue  

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 12:23 AM

It's really a clear indication that this site is quickly becoming slickdeals lite. It's sad to see but these types of blatant fraud and flips have become so prevalent lately that it's really hard to miss at this point. It's too bad because this website always seemed different with at least somewhat of a positive community feel rather than the cesspools other deals sites are.

#306 skiizim   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9627 Posts   Joined 9.0 Years Ago  

Posted 18 November 2013 - 08:28 PM

It's really a clear indication that this site is quickly becoming slickdeals lite. It's sad to see but these types of blatant fraud and flips have become so prevalent lately that it's really hard to miss at this point. It's too bad because this website always seemed different with at least somewhat of a positive community feel rather than the cesspools other deals sites are.

 

Just to add to this, they do this here knowingly to keep away from other deal sites that really don't care to keep things more active for there own purpose on this site.



#307 Ferrari Racer   Reporter for CAGNetwork CAGiversary!   6330 Posts   Joined 6.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 08:56 PM

hi guys enjoy the thred

are you gonna start spamming in here too?


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#308 thereefernander   CAG Best Buy Employee CAGiversary!   1746 Posts   Joined 7.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 08:34 PM

I was at a liqour store buying at 6 pack the day of the superbowl. I paid on my card and asked if I could get two fives for a ten. He agreed and gave me the two fives then took my ten, finalized my transaction and looked confused and handed me another two fives....I quietly walked towards the door swiftly I felt guilty though.
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#309 Bezerker   Bezerker Barrage! CAGiversary!   6854 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2014 - 06:30 PM

I had an amazing occurrence of positive morals on ebay.  Had an item where I had shipped it to the buyer (in Brazil) in October. In January he contacted me regarding wanting a refund since the item was clearly lost (tracking stopped at customs in Miami).  I gave him the refund and took the loss since I apparently forgot to insure the package.  Much to my amazement, in March the buyer contacted me saying that the item had just arrived (5.5 months later) and he wanted me to know what my paypal email address was so that he could send me the money for the item.

 

I let him know the email address and didn't hear anything back for a few days, then I got the notice from paypal that he sent the money.  Needless to say I thanked him profusely as most people in that situation would probably just consider it a bonus and keep both the money and the game. 


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#310 equistina  

Posted 14 April 2014 - 02:37 AM

I had an amazing occurrence of positive morals on ebay. Had an item where I had shipped it to the buyer (in Brazil) in October. In January he contacted me regarding wanting a refund since the item was clearly lost (tracking stopped at customs in Miami). I gave him the refund and took the loss since I apparently forgot to insure the package. Much to my amazement, in March the buyer contacted me saying that the item had just arrived (5.5 months later) and he wanted me to know what my paypal email address was so that he could send me the money for the item.

I let him know the email address and didn't hear anything back for a few days, then I got the notice from paypal that he sent the money. Needless to say I thanked him profusely as most people in that situation would probably just consider it a bonus and keep both the money and the game.


Wow that's really rare!

Glad to hear there is some honesty out there still :)

#311 EDiTOR9   Huh? CAGiversary!   1952 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 30 May 2014 - 09:24 PM

Just had an experience at the local Best Buy. Went in to pick up my MK 8 pre-order. I approached the .com pickup line and no one was there; but there was a manager sitting at a desk on the phone. Five minutes passed and She got up and walked past me and asked if I'd been helped, I said I hadn't and she radioed someone.

Some nerd came by and just looked around and said to himself, "help who? There's no one here." I waived to him and he walked out to the manager and told her he was with a customer so he couldn't help me. -_-'

Just as I'm typing up my email to complain once I got the survey, the same manager comes back and asks for my last name. She couldn't locate my item so she asked what I purchased and I said MK8. She looked it up and couldn't find it. She asked for my order number, rather than say it out loud I hand her my phone to scan the barcode on the email; but she manually entered it instead.

She went to the cage in the back and came back with a Wii U Mk8 bundle. I was still typing away on my phone when she asked me to sign...dumbfounded I did a double take and looked up at her. She handed me a pen, i signed and stood there thinking the guard at the door would surely call me out on this when he checked the receipt. I figured i'd chance it since that's what the manager gave me.

The guard at the door just smiled asked for the receipt and ran his fingernail through the receipt and said, " see you next time boss." With that, my fellow CAGs, I walked out with a brand new Wii U with MK8 for $47.99 + tax AND I also redeemed my $10 gas card a few moments ago.

Upon further inspection it was not the manager's fault, whomever did the .com order fulfillment put my order for MK8 as the Wii U MK8 as the order sticker was on the side.

Did I feel a bit guilty? For a split second, but as soon as I loaded the Wii U into my car I felt okay :).
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#312 PetersHere   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2611 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago  

Posted 28 September 2014 - 02:30 AM

Just had an experience at the local Best Buy. Went in to pick up my MK 8 pre-order. I approached the .com pickup line and no one was there; but there was a manager sitting at a desk on the phone. Five minutes passed and She got up and walked past me and asked if I'd been helped, I said I hadn't and she radioed someone.

Some nerd came by and just looked around and said to himself, "help who? There's no one here." I waived to him and he walked out to the manager and told her he was with a customer so he couldn't help me. -_-'

Just as I'm typing up my email to complain once I got the survey, the same manager comes back and asks for my last name. She couldn't locate my item so she asked what I purchased and I said MK8. She looked it up and couldn't find it. She asked for my order number, rather than say it out loud I hand her my phone to scan the barcode on the email; but she manually entered it instead.

She went to the cage in the back and came back with a Wii U Mk8 bundle. I was still typing away on my phone when she asked me to sign...dumbfounded I did a double take and looked up at her. She handed me a pen, i signed and stood there thinking the guard at the door would surely call me out on this when he checked the receipt. I figured i'd chance it since that's what the manager gave me.

The guard at the door just smiled asked for the receipt and ran his fingernail through the receipt and said, " see you next time boss." With that, my fellow CAGs, I walked out with a brand new Wii U with MK8 for $47.99 + tax AND I also redeemed my $10 gas card a few moments ago.

Upon further inspection it was not the manager's fault, whomever did the .com order fulfillment put my order for MK8 as the Wii U MK8 as the order sticker was on the side.

Did I feel a bit guilty? For a split second, but as soon as I loaded the Wii U into my car I felt okay :).

And to this day that WiiU has done little more than collect dust...  :rofl:



#313 JoshTX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2173 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

Posted 05 June 2015 - 02:20 AM

And to this day that WiiU has done little more than collect dust...  :rofl:

Fast forward 9 months...if he's been playing SSB I'm sure it's getting plenty of use. If not, then you are probably correct. 


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#314 latin trident   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   798 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 05:23 PM

Figured I'd ask here. I want to get Halo 5 and want to get all the pre-order bonuses. Is there anything wrong with pre-ordering at Gamestop and returning it later that week after redeeming the bonuses? Since the pre-order bonuses are just bonuses printed on the receipt and don't actually take anything from the game cost, I figured there would be no issues. Thoughts?

#315 anotherpoorgamer   Bird's Nest Hair CAGiversary!   5265 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 09:04 PM

Are you going to open the game and play it?  If so, you're committing return fraud.  You're returning a game that is missing something and claiming it as complete for a full refund.

If you're not going to open the game, you're basically renting the game for that content.

Gamestop probably won't care.  The Halo 5 developers will probably care.

 



#316 latin trident   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   798 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 09:13 PM

No, I won't be opening it. I was going to return it and just redeem the codes. I was thinking of getting the game elsewhere to keep. Since Gamestop generates the codes, I'll probably get it since there is nothing wrong with taking bonus content.

#317 soonersfan60   Longing for retro CAG... CAGiversary!   4219 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 11:09 PM

If you have to ask here, then you probably think it's wrong or shady anyway and just want someone else's permission to hide behind.



#318 latin trident   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   798 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:20 AM

If you have to ask here, then you probably think it's wrong or shady anyway and just want someone else's permission to hide behind.


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#319 shrike4242   Not My Job Anymore, Go Bother Someone Else. CAGiversary!   49845 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 06 October 2015 - 06:38 PM

Dang, you figured me out...

Didn't really take that much to figure that out.



#320 anotherpoorgamer   Bird's Nest Hair CAGiversary!   5265 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:37 PM

I hate it when people trade-in broken stuff.  Trying to pass it off as working properly for the full value. 
 



#321 elessar123  

Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:50 PM

That's why I rarely buy used consoles, controllers, etc.

Remember the 360 towel trick?

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#322 Churchbus   Squirtin out both ends CAGiversary!   75 Posts   Joined 4.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 02:37 AM

Is it considered return fraud to return a completely identical item (with receipt!) to a store that it may or may not have come from?

 

My family wanted me to make a Christmas list, so I did, which included Overwatch.  Then I saw how cheap I could get it during the Black Friday weekend ($28 from Best Buy), and I went ahead and nabbed it.  My reasoning was that if I got it for Christmas, I could just return the copy I bought, and if not, then I got it for cheap!

 

However, now I'm really itching to play the copy that I already own (especially because I think there's an in-game event coming up), and my Christmas gatherings may not be finished until New Year's, at which point my winter vacation is pretty much over.

 

Now I'm wondering if I can go ahead and open my copy (A), and if i do get a copy (B) for Christmas, can I return it to Best Buy with the reciept for copy A?  I've looked at two copies side-by-side and they seem completely identical, right down to the bar code.  Would that be considered return fraud?



#323 Saix_XIII   Video Game Addict CAGiversary!   6517 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 04 December 2016 - 04:28 AM

Is it considered return fraud to return a completely identical item (with receipt!) to a store that it may or may not have come from?

 

My family wanted me to make a Christmas list, so I did, which included Overwatch.  Then I saw how cheap I could get it during the Black Friday weekend ($28 from Best Buy), and I went ahead and nabbed it.  My reasoning was that if I got it for Christmas, I could just return the copy I bought, and if not, then I got it for cheap!

 

However, now I'm really itching to play the copy that I already own (especially because I think there's an in-game event coming up), and my Christmas gatherings may not be finished until New Year's, at which point my winter vacation is pretty much over.

 

Now I'm wondering if I can go ahead and open my copy (A), and if i do get a copy (B) for Christmas, can I return it to Best Buy with the reciept for copy A?  I've looked at two copies side-by-side and they seem completely identical, right down to the bar code.  Would that be considered return fraud?

Nothing wrong with that at all.

 

You're still returning the exact same version of Overwatch to the store the same version was purchased at. Sure the atoms that make up the copy you are returning are not the same, but there is noting fraud about it


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#324 elessar123  

Posted 04 December 2016 - 06:54 AM

I see no problems with it either. It's dickish to return a damaged copy sometimes, but that's about it. For example, Best Buy sends you something with GCU, it arrives damaged, but your Gamestop full price copy is in perfect condition. You return the damaged Best Buy copy to Gamestop. I mean, no one likes Gamestop, but still.


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#325 Churchbus   Squirtin out both ends CAGiversary!   75 Posts   Joined 4.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 02:48 AM

Thanks for the replies!  I feel better about it knowing that fellow CAGs don't think there's anything wrong, as return fraud is generally frowned upon around here.  I prefer to keep things on the up-and-up.

 

I'll probably go ahead and go through with it later this month then, as I get closer to my vacation.



#326 Jodou   Infamous CAGiversary!   12895 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 05 December 2016 - 04:18 PM

I live by one rule only: if the system/manager allows it, then fair game. You can bring morality into the equation if you wish, but at the end of the day you answer to nobody but yourself. If someone wants to scold you for doing something they find shady, that's their problem: not yours.


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#327 JoshTX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2173 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

Posted 05 December 2016 - 04:55 PM

I live by one rule only: if the system/manager allows it, then fair game. You can bring morality into the equation if you wish, but at the end of the day you answer to nobody but yourself. If someone wants to scold you for doing something they find shady, that's their problem: not yours.

I guess the question then is if you don't feel any responsibility to apply morality to shopping, do you apply it to anything else, and is that acceptable? Not trying to take a side here, just generally curious.

 

If you return a game purchased at Wal-Mart to Target, knowing it's technically fraud, would you commit other crimes as long as no one knew to stop you? 


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#328 RedvsBlue  

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 05:23 PM

This thread never fails to entertain.