So, who is ready for WWIII?
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Chinese food is pretty good.
yea, and why chinesE? are you being racist? have you seen that video thing of all the coutries bombing each other, and the only countrie left is australia? yea. china has same powers we do. im not backing up china because im chinese, but they do have weapons of mass destruction to.
[quote name='mousin']yea, and why chinesE? are you being racist? have you seen that video thing of all the coutries bombing each other, and the only countrie left is australia? yea. china has same powers we do. im not backing up china because im chinese, but they do have weapons of mass destruction to.[/quote]
The Chinese economy is quickly becoming a force to be reckoned with. I believe they are the 2nd biggest resource consuming nation next to...you guessed it, the US.
What do you think will happen when all of the cheap oil is gone? Do you think we'll just be like "you guys take half and we'll take half?"
The Chinese economy is quickly becoming a force to be reckoned with. I believe they are the 2nd biggest resource consuming nation next to...you guessed it, the US.
What do you think will happen when all of the cheap oil is gone? Do you think we'll just be like "you guys take half and we'll take half?"
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I personally think Iran is the next target, but I'm deviating from the standard point that yes, General tso's chicken is awesome! Kung Pao is a close second!
[quote name='Supernothing']Why's everyone worried about the oil... it's the helium we need to worry about. At the rate it's consumed now the world supply of helium will be depleted by 2010.[/quote]
Do you have a link for that?
What processes is Helium used for?
Do you have a link for that?
What processes is Helium used for?
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Did you by any chance happen to read a National Geographic from about to months ago? It had an end to cheap oil on the cover. Im just wondering cause they predicted a war with china as a posibility.
[quote name='gamefan1686']Did you by any chance happen to read a National Geographic from about to months ago? It had an end to cheap oil on the cover. Im just wondering cause they predicted a war with china as a posibility.[/quote]
Nah, I've read quite a few articles on it, but I was just reading this one.
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P89219.asp
Nah, I've read quite a few articles on it, but I was just reading this one.
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P89219.asp
Well the OP is absolutely talking out of his ass. But, if there is a WWIII it most likely be China (for very different reasons).
China's economy is in very bad shape as a whole and they're desperately overcrowded. They look north to Siberia and see vast untapped amounts of natural resources. They also see large amount of room to allow their population to expand in Mongolia and Russia to their north.(If you read Clancy's The Bear & The Dragon it speaks on the same subject).
If China gets greedy and/or desperate and invades Russia, we'll get scared (especially with the chance of China getting ahold of Russia's national armory (i.e. nukes, biological weapons), we'll decide to help Russia.. with China's standing army of something like 2 million men.. it wouldn't be pretty.
edit - Finished this too quickly. There's also Taiwan to think about.. we keep a naval fleet "in exercises" near Taiwan at all times.. if China was to decide to take back "their wayward area".. we may very well end up involved with that conflict (Taiwan is democratic and we'd very much like to keep them that way). Not to mention if China got stupid (e.g. Japan and Pearl Harbor) and decided to pre-emptively take out our fleet so as to be able to take back Taiwan.. there's a war.
And it has nothing to do with racism mousin, its the current world situation.
China's economy is in very bad shape as a whole and they're desperately overcrowded. They look north to Siberia and see vast untapped amounts of natural resources. They also see large amount of room to allow their population to expand in Mongolia and Russia to their north.(If you read Clancy's The Bear & The Dragon it speaks on the same subject).
If China gets greedy and/or desperate and invades Russia, we'll get scared (especially with the chance of China getting ahold of Russia's national armory (i.e. nukes, biological weapons), we'll decide to help Russia.. with China's standing army of something like 2 million men.. it wouldn't be pretty.
edit - Finished this too quickly. There's also Taiwan to think about.. we keep a naval fleet "in exercises" near Taiwan at all times.. if China was to decide to take back "their wayward area".. we may very well end up involved with that conflict (Taiwan is democratic and we'd very much like to keep them that way). Not to mention if China got stupid (e.g. Japan and Pearl Harbor) and decided to pre-emptively take out our fleet so as to be able to take back Taiwan.. there's a war.
And it has nothing to do with racism mousin, its the current world situation.
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who needs oil? yeah, oil is running low...and will eventually run out...but we're developing alternatives.........i doubt us fighting china anytime soon....either way, when it happens, you can find me in australia or new zealand
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[quote name='GameDude'][quote name='Supernothing']Why's everyone worried about the oil... it's the helium we need to worry about. At the rate it's consumed now the world supply of helium will be depleted by 2010.[/quote]
Do you have a link for that?
What processes is Helium used for?[/quote]
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309070384/html/40.html
Figure 4.2b indicates the total amount of helium in the reserve facility (top curves) and the amount of helium in the privately owned reserve (bottom curves), assuming the supply and demand scenarios shown in Figure 4.2a. If helium demand remains constant at the 1998 level, the curves indicate that there will be a net storage of helium until about 2004. At that time, helium suppliers will begin to draw down their private stores, which will be exhausted in about 2015. If helium use increases at 1 percent, 3 percent, or 5 percent per year, the private reserves will be exhausted in about 2010, 2007, or 2005 respectively. If helium use decreases at 1 percent per year, the private reserves will not be exhausted until after 2020. If the amount of helium available is greater than the worst-case estimate used in these scenarios, the private reserve will be exhausted even later.
Do you have a link for that?
What processes is Helium used for?[/quote]
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309070384/html/40.html
Figure 4.2b indicates the total amount of helium in the reserve facility (top curves) and the amount of helium in the privately owned reserve (bottom curves), assuming the supply and demand scenarios shown in Figure 4.2a. If helium demand remains constant at the 1998 level, the curves indicate that there will be a net storage of helium until about 2004. At that time, helium suppliers will begin to draw down their private stores, which will be exhausted in about 2015. If helium use increases at 1 percent, 3 percent, or 5 percent per year, the private reserves will be exhausted in about 2010, 2007, or 2005 respectively. If helium use decreases at 1 percent per year, the private reserves will not be exhausted until after 2020. If the amount of helium available is greater than the worst-case estimate used in these scenarios, the private reserve will be exhausted even later.
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id like to know how it was even asked to be if it was a racist comment.....he said the us vs china....the last time i checked, the US wasn't one particular race
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[quote name='Supernothing'][quote name='GameDude'][quote name='Supernothing']Why's everyone worried about the oil... it's the helium we need to worry about. At the rate it's consumed now the world supply of helium will be depleted by 2010.[/quote]
Do you have a link for that?
What processes is Helium used for?[/quote]
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309070384/html/40.html
Figure 4.2b indicates the total amount of helium in the reserve facility (top curves) and the amount of helium in the privately owned reserve (bottom curves), assuming the supply and demand scenarios shown in Figure 4.2a. If helium demand remains constant at the 1998 level, the curves indicate that there will be a net storage of helium until about 2004. At that time, helium suppliers will begin to draw down their private stores, which will be exhausted in about 2015. If helium use increases at 1 percent, 3 percent, or 5 percent per year, the private reserves will be exhausted in about 2010, 2007, or 2005 respectively. If helium use decreases at 1 percent per year, the private reserves will not be exhausted until after 2020. If the amount of helium available is greater than the worst-case estimate used in these scenarios, the private reserve will be exhausted even later.[/quote]
so is it safe to say that helium will become very rare? should i stock up on some tanks that they sell at bjs?
Do you have a link for that?
What processes is Helium used for?[/quote]
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309070384/html/40.html
Figure 4.2b indicates the total amount of helium in the reserve facility (top curves) and the amount of helium in the privately owned reserve (bottom curves), assuming the supply and demand scenarios shown in Figure 4.2a. If helium demand remains constant at the 1998 level, the curves indicate that there will be a net storage of helium until about 2004. At that time, helium suppliers will begin to draw down their private stores, which will be exhausted in about 2015. If helium use increases at 1 percent, 3 percent, or 5 percent per year, the private reserves will be exhausted in about 2010, 2007, or 2005 respectively. If helium use decreases at 1 percent per year, the private reserves will not be exhausted until after 2020. If the amount of helium available is greater than the worst-case estimate used in these scenarios, the private reserve will be exhausted even later.[/quote]
so is it safe to say that helium will become very rare? should i stock up on some tanks that they sell at bjs?
[quote name='Cornfedwb']Well the OP is absolutely talking out of his ass. But, if there is a WWIII it most likely be China (for very different reasons).
China's economy is in very bad shape as a whole and they're desperately overcrowded. They look north to Siberia and see vast untapped amounts of natural resources. They also see large amount of room to allow their population to expand in Mongolia and Russia to their north.(If you read Clancy's The Bear & The Dragon it speaks on the same subject).
If China gets greedy and/or desperate and invades Russia, we'll get scared (especially with the chance of China getting ahold of Russia's national armory (i.e. nukes, biological weapons), we'll decide to help Russia.. with China's standing army of something like 2 million men.. it wouldn't be pretty.
edit - Finished this too quickly. There's also Taiwan to think about.. we keep a naval fleet "in exercises" near Taiwan at all times.. if China was to decide to take back "their wayward area".. we may very well end up involved with that conflict (Taiwan is democratic and we'd very much like to keep them that way). Not to mention if China got stupid (e.g. Japan and Pearl Harbor) and decided to pre-emptively take out our fleet so as to be able to take back Taiwan.. there's a war.
And it has nothing to do with racism mousin, its the current world situation.[/quote]
Yeah, I sure am talking "out of my ass."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.
China's economy is in very bad shape as a whole and they're desperately overcrowded. They look north to Siberia and see vast untapped amounts of natural resources. They also see large amount of room to allow their population to expand in Mongolia and Russia to their north.(If you read Clancy's The Bear & The Dragon it speaks on the same subject).
If China gets greedy and/or desperate and invades Russia, we'll get scared (especially with the chance of China getting ahold of Russia's national armory (i.e. nukes, biological weapons), we'll decide to help Russia.. with China's standing army of something like 2 million men.. it wouldn't be pretty.
edit - Finished this too quickly. There's also Taiwan to think about.. we keep a naval fleet "in exercises" near Taiwan at all times.. if China was to decide to take back "their wayward area".. we may very well end up involved with that conflict (Taiwan is democratic and we'd very much like to keep them that way). Not to mention if China got stupid (e.g. Japan and Pearl Harbor) and decided to pre-emptively take out our fleet so as to be able to take back Taiwan.. there's a war.
And it has nothing to do with racism mousin, its the current world situation.[/quote]
Yeah, I sure am talking "out of my ass."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.
[quote name='Supernothing'][quote name='GameDude'][quote name='Supernothing']Why's everyone worried about the oil... it's the helium we need to worry about. At the rate it's consumed now the world supply of helium will be depleted by 2010.[/quote]
Do you have a link for that?
What processes is Helium used for?[/quote]
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309070384/html/40.html
Figure 4.2b indicates the total amount of helium in the reserve facility (top curves) and the amount of helium in the privately owned reserve (bottom curves), assuming the supply and demand scenarios shown in Figure 4.2a. If helium demand remains constant at the 1998 level, the curves indicate that there will be a net storage of helium until about 2004. At that time, helium suppliers will begin to draw down their private stores, which will be exhausted in about 2015. If helium use increases at 1 percent, 3 percent, or 5 percent per year, the private reserves will be exhausted in about 2010, 2007, or 2005 respectively. If helium use decreases at 1 percent per year, the private reserves will not be exhausted until after 2020. If the amount of helium available is greater than the worst-case estimate used in these scenarios, the private reserve will be exhausted even later.[/quote]
And if we get around to inventing cold fusion, we'd have a tremendous surplus of helium. So don't get investing in helium tanks yet. (Fusion involves using pressure and temperature to push 4 hydrogen molecules into 1 helium molecule, thereby releasing tremendous amount of power in the form of gamma rays, x-rays and loose photons.)
Do you have a link for that?
What processes is Helium used for?[/quote]
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309070384/html/40.html
Figure 4.2b indicates the total amount of helium in the reserve facility (top curves) and the amount of helium in the privately owned reserve (bottom curves), assuming the supply and demand scenarios shown in Figure 4.2a. If helium demand remains constant at the 1998 level, the curves indicate that there will be a net storage of helium until about 2004. At that time, helium suppliers will begin to draw down their private stores, which will be exhausted in about 2015. If helium use increases at 1 percent, 3 percent, or 5 percent per year, the private reserves will be exhausted in about 2010, 2007, or 2005 respectively. If helium use decreases at 1 percent per year, the private reserves will not be exhausted until after 2020. If the amount of helium available is greater than the worst-case estimate used in these scenarios, the private reserve will be exhausted even later.[/quote]
And if we get around to inventing cold fusion, we'd have a tremendous surplus of helium. So don't get investing in helium tanks yet. (Fusion involves using pressure and temperature to push 4 hydrogen molecules into 1 helium molecule, thereby releasing tremendous amount of power in the form of gamma rays, x-rays and loose photons.)
[quote name='GameDude']Yeah, I sure am talking "out of my ass."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.
[quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='GameDude']Yeah, I sure am talking "out of my ass."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.
[quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='GameDude']Yeah, I sure am talking "out of my ass."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Okay, so why did we take over oil? Was it because Saddam had some WMD? No...
Well, was it because Saddam was a cruel dictator for decades and we just decided that he needed to go? Hmm...probably not, when was the last time the US ousted someone not for the US's benefit, especially on such a mass scale?
Or maybe all of these politicians don't want people to worry about the oil supply...because, guess what? That would be a way bigger instance of terror than the 9/11 crashes.
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Okay, so why did we take over oil? Was it because Saddam had some WMD? No...
Well, was it because Saddam was a cruel dictator for decades and we just decided that he needed to go? Hmm...probably not, when was the last time the US ousted someone not for the US's benefit, especially on such a mass scale?
Or maybe all of these politicians don't want people to worry about the oil supply...because, guess what? That would be a way bigger instance of terror than the 9/11 crashes.
[quote name='BigNick'][quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='GameDude']Yeah, I sure am talking "out of my ass."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.[/quote]
Why? Is there a place on your back that needs scratching that you can't reach?
I'm backing up my claims while this guy is just like "You're a stupidhead."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.[/quote]
Why? Is there a place on your back that needs scratching that you can't reach?
I'm backing up my claims while this guy is just like "You're a stupidhead."
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If China does go to War with the US, then which country will trade with them? I would think it is a bigger blow to China's economy if the US was not trading with them.
[quote name='ValkyrieVF-1S']If China does go to War with the US, then which country will trade with them? I would think it is a bigger blow to China's economy if the US was not trading with them.[/quote]
Any of the countries that don't care for the US?
Iran, Saudia Arabia, North Korea?
Any of the countries that don't care for the US?
Iran, Saudia Arabia, North Korea?
[quote name='GameDude'][quote name='BigNick'][quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='GameDude']Yeah, I sure am talking "out of my ass."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.[/quote]
Why? Is there a place on your back that needs scratching that you can't reach?
I'm backing up my claims while this guy is just like "You're a stupidhead."[/quote]
Wow.. read my earlier comments, they're very well thought out and explanative. Your OP says "We went to war in Iraq for oil for the coming war".. thats not backing up your claims. If you had a reasoning behind that, some shred of evidence, anything at all other than 2 editorials you found.. then I'd consider it an opinion (however wrong an opinion it may be).. as it stands, its talking out of your ass.
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.[/quote]
Why? Is there a place on your back that needs scratching that you can't reach?
I'm backing up my claims while this guy is just like "You're a stupidhead."[/quote]
Wow.. read my earlier comments, they're very well thought out and explanative. Your OP says "We went to war in Iraq for oil for the coming war".. thats not backing up your claims. If you had a reasoning behind that, some shred of evidence, anything at all other than 2 editorials you found.. then I'd consider it an opinion (however wrong an opinion it may be).. as it stands, its talking out of your ass.
[quote name='GameDude'][quote name='BigNick'][quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='GameDude']Yeah, I sure am talking "out of my ass."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.[/quote]
Why? Is there a place on your back that needs scratching that you can't reach?
I'm backing up my claims while this guy is just like "You're a stupidhead."[/quote]
Well, you area stupidhead. You showed nothing to back this up. If we wanteds the oil from Iraq, we would have taken it.
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.[/quote]
Why? Is there a place on your back that needs scratching that you can't reach?
I'm backing up my claims while this guy is just like "You're a stupidhead."[/quote]
Well, you area stupidhead. You showed nothing to back this up. If we wanteds the oil from Iraq, we would have taken it.
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[quote name='GameDude'][quote name='ValkyrieVF-1S']If China does go to War with the US, then which country will trade with them? I would think it is a bigger blow to China's economy if the US was not trading with them.[/quote]
Any of the countries that don't care for the US?
Iran, Saudia Arabia, North Korea?[/quote]
Besides Saudia Arabia, I doubt the US could really care about trading with the other 2. Plus China is different, we do not depend on them for natural resources... Unlike Saudia Arabia.
Any of the countries that don't care for the US?
Iran, Saudia Arabia, North Korea?[/quote]
Besides Saudia Arabia, I doubt the US could really care about trading with the other 2. Plus China is different, we do not depend on them for natural resources... Unlike Saudia Arabia.
[quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='GameDude'][quote name='BigNick'][quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='GameDude']Yeah, I sure am talking "out of my ass."
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.[/quote]
Why? Is there a place on your back that needs scratching that you can't reach?
I'm backing up my claims while this guy is just like "You're a stupidhead."[/quote]
Wow.. read my earlier comments, they're very well thought out and explanative. Your OP says "We went to war in Iraq for oil for the coming war".. thats not backing up your claims. If you had a reasoning behind that, some shred of evidence, anything at all other than 2 editorials you found.. then I'd consider it an opinion (however wrong an opinion it may be).. as it stands, its talking out of your ass.[/quote]
Mine are well thought out too. In fact, I actually have articles that at least support my idea. Why, exactly, is my idea so far fetched?
Anyway, read this site. Yeah, I know he's pushing a book, so I'm hoping that's the sole reason of the site. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Introduction.html
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=508575
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10714-2004Jun27.html
I'm not saying this WILL happen but I'm saying that it's plenty plausible.[/quote]
The comment that we invaded Iraq to get oil for the coming war... that's talking out of your ass. And finding random editorials of people talking out of their ass to back you up does not mean you aren't talking sideways out of your bunghole.[/quote]
Maybe you need to wipe your ass gamedude.[/quote]
Why? Is there a place on your back that needs scratching that you can't reach?
I'm backing up my claims while this guy is just like "You're a stupidhead."[/quote]
Wow.. read my earlier comments, they're very well thought out and explanative. Your OP says "We went to war in Iraq for oil for the coming war".. thats not backing up your claims. If you had a reasoning behind that, some shred of evidence, anything at all other than 2 editorials you found.. then I'd consider it an opinion (however wrong an opinion it may be).. as it stands, its talking out of your ass.[/quote]
Mine are well thought out too. In fact, I actually have articles that at least support my idea. Why, exactly, is my idea so far fetched?
Anyway, read this site. Yeah, I know he's pushing a book, so I'm hoping that's the sole reason of the site. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Introduction.html
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I think China will be a certifiable threat in upcoming years, mostly because of their population, and penchant for newest communications technology, but I doubt WW 3 will come about because of this.
For cryin' out loud, is there no end to this idiot meme?
It's very simple. If we simply wanted the oil we would have bought it. It was offered frequently as a bid to end the sanctions and it isn't as though we're unaccustomed to doing business with unlovable people for such commodities. At the cost of waging this war the resulting oil would be the most expensive in human history. The war for oil idea just doesn't add up.
Besides, we've already had WW III. The Soviets lost. Just because there were few flare-ups such as Vietnam doesn't mean it wasn't a war. It was for all the marbles and we won. Now we're embroiled in WW IV.
It's very simple. If we simply wanted the oil we would have bought it. It was offered frequently as a bid to end the sanctions and it isn't as though we're unaccustomed to doing business with unlovable people for such commodities. At the cost of waging this war the resulting oil would be the most expensive in human history. The war for oil idea just doesn't add up.
Besides, we've already had WW III. The Soviets lost. Just because there were few flare-ups such as Vietnam doesn't mean it wasn't a war. It was for all the marbles and we won. Now we're embroiled in WW IV.
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Wow...I had a post partially typed out, and when I maximized the window a few hours later...you guys had torn up this thread like a pack of starving curs. What with the sphincter references and conflicting predictions (or references to other people's predictions, rather) of what the next twenty to forty years will hold. Anyhow. Back to my (comparatively) innocent & inoffensive post:
I hope it doesn't come down to war with China, regardless of the reasons & timeframe. I'd be a prime target for friendly fire, and what with the oceans of chinese heads (all with the same haircut, mind you) coming at me, I don't think I could keep my cool enough to juggle my chopsticks, the little cardboard cup holding my ration of beef & broccoli, and my $1200 state-of-the-art, high-tech, shooting-around-corners, glow-in-the-dark, scratch-n-smell gun which had just jammed after a wet blade of grass wafted up the barrel...and still be all that I can be.
I hope it doesn't come down to war with China, regardless of the reasons & timeframe. I'd be a prime target for friendly fire, and what with the oceans of chinese heads (all with the same haircut, mind you) coming at me, I don't think I could keep my cool enough to juggle my chopsticks, the little cardboard cup holding my ration of beef & broccoli, and my $1200 state-of-the-art, high-tech, shooting-around-corners, glow-in-the-dark, scratch-n-smell gun which had just jammed after a wet blade of grass wafted up the barrel...and still be all that I can be.
[quote name='Cracka']IMO, we're going to be less dependent on oil in the years to come. Electric cars and such are going to be a big thing in the near future, IMO.
But anyways, i believe we could hold our ground against China, and if China attacks us, the US and NATO will be all over their ass.[/quote]
The only way we will be less dependent on oil is if we boot George Bush out of the White House (along with the Republicans and Democrats in the House and Senate who constantly vote against more stringent fuel-efficiency standards). Fuel cell vehicles won't be a reality any time soon. Despite Bush's speech about fuel cell cars, he has not allocated any funding to make it happen.
But anyways, i believe we could hold our ground against China, and if China attacks us, the US and NATO will be all over their ass.[/quote]
The only way we will be less dependent on oil is if we boot George Bush out of the White House (along with the Republicans and Democrats in the House and Senate who constantly vote against more stringent fuel-efficiency standards). Fuel cell vehicles won't be a reality any time soon. Despite Bush's speech about fuel cell cars, he has not allocated any funding to make it happen.
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