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#1 tehweezner   Mother Leopard CAGiversary!   1243 Posts   Joined 11.4 Years Ago  

Posted 26 October 2006 - 04:14 PM

The EB in my area is having a midnight launch. I inspected the CE case and it is lovely. the strat guide is very nice and if you buy it w/FFXII it's $24. the clerk said the game is "AWEsome"

couple more days :bouncy:

#2 Kayden   Banned Banned   17673 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:10 PM

It is awesome. I'm about 15 hours in.

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#3 Dandeschain   Metal Militia CAGiversary!   637 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:35 PM

I cannot wait. Just paid mine off today. Now I'm going to go to sleep and hopefully when I wake up it will be wednesday.
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#4 Chacrana   You wa Cock CAGiversary!   22669 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 26 October 2006 - 09:00 PM

I can't wait, but I can't start the game until like the 10th of November... I've got two tests that I have to study for and if I start playing FFXII, I absolutely will not get work done.

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#5 defiance_17   You're bastard people. CAGiversary!   2370 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 09:41 PM

I'm putting in at least 10 hours after the midnight launch. And depending on whether or not I attend my classes that day, I might be halfway through before I stop.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 09:55 PM

I just had 3 exams in a row, so now I'm finally free for a couple weeks! Sweet can't wait to play some games... too bad I got full labs next week though =/

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#7 Moxio   Supervillain CAGiversary!   35394 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 01:41 AM

ZOMGZ I needz FFXII!

#8 PawnTakesKing   The Analytical Gamer CAGiversary!   1269 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 01:46 AM

This will probably be the only FF that I miss out on.
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#9 Diiz   calm like a bomb CAGiversary!   2113 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 01:54 AM

So I am a bit unclear. For the EBs doing midnight launches... are they going to have the game on the night of Oct 30 / morning of Oct 31? Or is it the 31st/1st?
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#10 Kayden   Banned Banned   17673 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 03:23 AM

So I am a bit unclear. For the EBs doing midnight launches... are they going to have the game on the night of Oct 30 / morning of Oct 31? Or is it the 31st/1st?


30th/31st

Overall, the game is pretty easy saddly. Atleast, up to the point I'm at. There are a couple of monsters at the beginning of the game you can't even come close to killing like werewolfs and the Sauren (t-rex). Some of the hunts can be pretty hard if you try to do them right when you get them. The first two are cake, but the third and fourth need 2 people and the fifth will bust your balls with all three... atleast at level 11 when I tried him.

The License system is interesting, but it feels almost limiting... probably because it is... You can only wear gear you have a license for. Every license permits you 1-4 items/spells/skills and then unlocks all adjacent licenses. Magic works much the same way, except that you only need to buy the spell once and then every character with the right license can use it. The problem with this system is that you generally only unlock those you absolutely need, but you have no idea what you're going to get next and, subsequently, when you do move on, all those points spent on the subsequent skills just feel wasted. Dispite that though, its great because you can make any character into anything you want.

There are also special 'limit breakish' abilities called Quickenings that only one character can use. I've only unlocked one and from what I can tell is that it uses all your mana and then has you do some kind of button combinations to do more damage. I couldn't really tell exactly what was going on because it only gives you 4 seconds to look around and I only triggered the skill twice. I noticed something in the bottom corner that said 'R2 Shuffle'. I hit R2 and it disapeared... Not real sure what went on there.

Combat is fairly... interesting, if not sometimes boring. Firstly the good-- Combat is real time, you can see all your enemies on screen with no 'swoosh' effect taking you to a battle map. You can change party members at just about any time you want at any point in the battle. The one exception I've found is when the person you want to swap out is being targeted for an attack. Dead people can also be swapped out for healthy fighters and then rez'd and healed while in standby. If you're really getting your ass handed to you, you can run away from battle and cross into an adjacent zone, however, when you go back, the monsters than chased you may be waiting for your return.

Gambits are a mixed bag. One the plus side, they let you make sure everyone is doing what you want them to do in real time. The down side is, for a lot of the fights you feel like you're just watching the game instead of playing it. Every character starts with two gambit slots with more unlockable through the License board. Gambits allow you to choose your target and action such as "Ally: <60% life" and "Spell:Cure" or "Enemy: Closest" and "Attack". The character acts in the order the gambits are listed. If you have attack above cure, then they will not cast cure while in battle. Additionally, you have to becareful because you can set gambits to attack allies automatically. While its nice to be able to make sure all your helpers aren't slacking, its almost too good of a system as it removes even the marginal interactivity of mashing X like previous entries.


Some of the text is a bit hard to read in HD (no where near as bad as Dead Rising) but I can't say how it looks in SD. Overall, its a pretty great game and heads above FFX-2-- Next week can't come fast enough.

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#11 CAG 79   Been here for 13 years... CAGiversary!   2325 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 04:28 AM

I think I'm also going to be passing on this game at least for now. With so many games coming out in November, I simply won't have the time to devote to an RPG.

#12 Virtua   only 5 can ladder CAGiversary!   12612 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 07:01 AM

I would be waiting on this if gamestop hadn't screwed up a trade in transaction and gave me a ton of extra store credit. I've got it paid off but probably won't play it until thanksgiving/winter break, like bully, and VP2, and Okami.. ugh.

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#13 defiance_17   You're bastard people. CAGiversary!   2370 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 08:06 AM

I would be waiting on this if gamestop hadn't screwed up a trade in transaction and gave me a ton of extra store credit. I've got it paid off but probably won't play it until thanksgiving/winter break, like bully, and VP2, and Okami.. ugh.


I've informed my family, friends, employers, and professors that I'll be locked in my bedroom all of next week. Final Fantasy XII will not wait for any "recognized" breaks--it has created its own.

I just hope I can finish Okami before Monday night (not looking good). Bully and Splinter Cell: DA will have to wait...probably until December, with Guitar Hero 2 and the Wii knocking at our doors. I also made the mistake of starting up Lego Star Wars II last night. I almost miss the days when there weren't at least half a dozen must-have games coming out a month.

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#14 MarkMan   CAG TEKKEN MASTER CAGiversary!   8622 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 08:51 AM

I posted my impressions in the other thread.

I really loved this game. It was a breath of fresh air for me. Finally something *NEW* to the series that I came to enjoy, and eventually love.

It has some of the best "moments" I can recall from any recent Final Fantasy game.

Even though I already played through it, I'm going to purchase a CE because the game is that damn good.

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#15 Dijital   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   975 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 05:06 PM

I posted my impressions in the other thread.

I really loved this game. It was a breath of fresh air for me. Finally something *NEW* to the series that I came to enjoy, and eventually love.

It has some of the best "moments" I can recall from any recent Final Fantasy game.

Even though I already played through it, I'm going to purchase a CE because the game is that damn good.


You already beat it wow man, so what can you tell us about the game for those who are unsure?
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#16 Chacrana   You wa Cock CAGiversary!   22669 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 05:08 PM

You already beat it wow man, so what can you tell us about the game for those who are unsure?


Yeah, personally, I'm worried that there won't be a good storyline or interesting characters... I've really not heard very much about those aspects from... well, anyone. Oh, and how dark is the game?

I'm kinda weird, but one of my favorite things about FFX was the first part where you're in Zanarkand during the night and Sin attacks... everything about that was absolutely perfect so I'm hoping there's some moments like that...

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#17 BREVITY   The Soul of Wit. CAGiversary!   1753 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 05:30 PM

I am 30 hours in and far from beating it, there is just so much to do. I mean I stop
drilling through the story often to hunt down some NMs or do a hunt. Also I dont think this game is a walk in the park by any stretch. I recall the first day I played I was walking through this area and in fact had just beat a boss and I thought I was big shit so I didnt even scan this mob I just started hacking at it. In two hits to each of my party members I was dead. I came back and found it again and tried scanning it and found it unscannable. Its now on my payback list when I get way more lvls. Last night I was ambushed into a boss fight I had not known was comming and its got me totally rethinking my gambits. I am trying to stay away from GFAQs but hell I had to have some help and so I went and checked out some gambit ideas and now I think I will make another run at these dudes with a new gambit setup.

Overall the story is good so far and the pacing of the game is great. One of my fave parts of the game is I never really feel lost in what I need to do next. I love that the map screen along with a few others keeps me in the loop on stuff I got to get done.
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#18 Rei no Otaku   Rei's love CAGiversary!   10309 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 06:41 PM

I'm working the midnight launch. I can't wait for the game either. Unfortunately I won't get home until like 1am, so I'll probably have to take a quick nap before actually playing it.

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#19 MidnightRain   adventures in solitude CAGiversary!   552 Posts   Joined 11.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 07:06 PM

I'm seriously considering taking time off work to head over to Circuit City on Tuesday. XII for 37.99? I'm so there.
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#20 soliddragon   Early Adopter CAGiversary!   1077 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 08:40 PM

Is available now at Gexpress. Shipping kills deal though, those greedy bastards.

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#21 Virtua   only 5 can ladder CAGiversary!   12612 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 09:16 PM

does anyone have that super deluxe sexy time leather edition guide? worth it? i was a bit dissapointed with the KH2 limited guide.. the guide was worthless.

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#22 MarkMan   CAG TEKKEN MASTER CAGiversary!   8622 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 27 October 2006 - 10:50 PM

Yeah, personally, I'm worried that there won't be a good storyline or interesting characters... I've really not heard very much about those aspects from... well, anyone. Oh, and how dark is the game?

I'm kinda weird, but one of my favorite things about FFX was the first part where you're in Zanarkand during the night and Sin attacks... everything about that was absolutely perfect so I'm hoping there's some moments like that...


Regarding the storyline... it's much different than previous FFs.

The comparisons you hear about Star Wars and LOTR... it's pretty much on point. The game is very much like those movies where it's a GROUP of people fighting together for a common story goal. I know, I know... sounds pretty bland, but when you play the game I hope you can kinda see it the way I saw it.

The game is pretty dark as it has it's good share of killing and backstabbing etc., etc. I can't get in depth without spoiling anything so I won't.

The main game, I'd say it's about 60 hours. If you do everything, including all the mob hunts... probably closer to 100.

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#23 dashwstppr   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   8 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 12:54 AM

So, is it worth it to pay about $23+ to get the Collector's Edition?

'Cause $37 is an excellent price for this game.
What do you guys think?

#24 erehwon   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3104 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 28 October 2006 - 12:55 AM

How limited do you think the FFXII LE edition will be? I have it on pre-order, but I'm thinking of cancelling it. It sounds like a good game, but my funds are getting a little low and I haven't been gaming as much lately. I need to finish Valkyrie Profile and I need to start Xenosaga 3 which I got at launch, but haven't opened.

I do have a copy of FFVII which I'm thinking of putting on ebay. I wonder how much that would get me to put towards FFXII?

#25 Dhuk   CAGiversary! Validating   683 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

Posted 28 October 2006 - 12:59 AM

How limited do you think the FFXII LE edition will be? I have it on pre-order, but I'm thinking of cancelling it. It sounds like a good game, but my funds are getting a little low and I haven't been gaming as much lately. I need to finish Valkyrie Profile and I need to start Xenosaga 3 which I got at launch, but haven't opened.

I do have a copy of FFVII which I'm thinking of putting on ebay. I wonder how much that would get me to put towards FFXII?


FFXII GS/EB LE will probably flood ebay on the 31st, if you were to sell your FF7 now, you probably paid 70% of FF12 off. Also, buy FF12 on ebay. I am going to assume someone will have free shipping, or 6 bucks off retail....maybe both???

#26 kittycatgirl2k   Banned Banned   535 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 01:10 AM

does anyone have that super deluxe sexy time leather edition guide? worth it? i was a bit dissapointed with the KH2 limited guide.. the guide was worthless.


I was in eb today and saw the guide... oh my gawd... it is super sexxi and I kept putting it back... and picking it up again and gazing at it lovingly. As I was checking out (picked up Beatmania for $30 to give as a Christmas gift) I had a crazy freakout moment and blurted out "I'll take this too"..... OMG it was $30!!

But I paid it. Its sitting on my shelf unopened right now. Dont know whether to crack the seal or not. Its so tempting though. There are two books in the hardcase it comes in. One is an artbook I believe.

Oh and I preordered my FFXII through outpost with free shipping for 39.99. any chance that will come in sometime next week ya think? After getting the guide Im real antsy about the game now.

I havent bought a strategy guide since Final Fantasy Tactics. I feel like such a tool. lol

#27 Chacrana   You wa Cock CAGiversary!   22669 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 28 October 2006 - 04:15 AM

IGN Review is up: http://ps2.ign.com/a...1/741991p1.html


9.5. Holy shit. This game is going to be legendary. The fact that I have to wait a little while to play it absolutely kills me.

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#28 CAG 79   Been here for 13 years... CAGiversary!   2325 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

Posted 28 October 2006 - 04:25 AM

IGN Review is up: http://ps2.ign.com/a...1/741991p1.html


9.5. Holy shit. This game is going to be legendary. The fact that I have to wait a little while to play it absolutely kills me.


Damn, I'm going to have to reconsider my decision. Nothing but positive reviews and impressions.

Edit: 1UP also gave it a 9.5.

#29 robbart914   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   341 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 04:51 AM

Yeah, personally, I'm worried that there won't be a good storyline or interesting characters... I've really not heard very much about those aspects from... well, anyone. Oh, and how dark is the game?

I'm kinda weird, but one of my favorite things about FFX was the first part where you're in Zanarkand during the night and Sin attacks... everything about that was absolutely perfect so I'm hoping there's some moments like that...


Teehee. Let's just say the exposition is....somewhat dark. May come a little later than what you were expecting though.

As a single player "game", FFXII trounces the other FFs. You simply can't compare the amount of gameplay, as there is seemingly an unholy number of potential activities in this game. It does take a while to get the hang of however. Nothing TOO complicated, but I'd imagine it might shy some of the more softcore away fairly quickly.

As an experience, however, don't fall prey to the IGN review hype. Its not all peaches and cream. Its different. Enough so that I have a tough time even comparing it to the other FF games. As each game tells a different story anyway, I'm glad they travel down different roads instead of treading the path of least resentment, but the story for this game is simply....

...not so much "cinematic". Somewhat closer to an unfolding of events without the extensive inner monologue that made Tidus so open with information that he seemed like....well, a girl. Rather you see the events and some of the subtleties and are left up to whether you will feel anything for the characters or not. Though its hard not to. Its an immersive experience after all. But it sure works for my taste for the lead, as I recall absolutely despising his character design (girly dude WTF FF sux0rs!) and now I don't mind him at all. We seldom see him "touchy feely" at all.

BTW, I can't stand animal girls, and the viera, Fran, is fucking hot. Go FF for changing my views on that. Or is it FF? I don't really know anymore. But its quality. And I think its pretty damn good.

#30 empyrium   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   60 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 04:55 AM

Target in folsom,ca had it on the shelves this evening. My brother picked up a copy early. You might want to check your local targets
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