360 JP Backward Compatibility/Region-Free List

thakingrocka

thakingrocka

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if you feel this doesn't belong here, i apologize. i thought this might help some people decide on the purchase of a jp 360. it has been a really nice added feature for me. ninja gaiden can still hang with the best of the next gen (but NG black cant for some reason).

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UPDATE: Jim's Attic
http://home.netyou.jp/cc/jimkanoh/region.htm
this is a site run by a guy in japan who appears to be xbox superfan #1. it may not be an exhaustive list, but it's bigger than mine. if you want, you can cross reference it with the BC list to find some games that should work for you.

UPDATE: Added for reference
US XBOX BC List
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm

JP XBOX BC List
http://www.xbox.com/ja-JP/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm

tested out the BC titles i had. i was pretty disappointed to find some in particular were region-locked.

All titles were tested on my JP 360.

game (version) notes

PLAYABLE (Personally Verified)

half-life 2
spider-man 2
street fighter: anniversary collection
splinter cell: chaos theory
unreal championship II
winning eleven 9
thief 3 (noticeable problems with framerate and lights show through walls)
forza motorsport (if you get slowdown, turn the mirror off, it works like a charm)
ghost recon 2 (pal) stutters, maybe NTSC US is better
buffy: chaos bleeds (jp) full english
thug 2 (us) hiccups in menu
prince of persia (us)
ninja gaiden (us) no emulation of the original NES titles, but they suck anyway
halo 2 (us)
fatal frame 2 (us)
rainbow 6 3 (us)
splinter cell: pandora tomorrow (us)
counter-strike (us)
dead or alive: ultimate (us) both 1 & 2 work

NOT Playable (all games below are US versions)
guilty gear XX # reload
panzer dragoon orta
jet set radio future
psychonauts
shenmue II
buffy the vampire slayer
soul calibur II
evil dead:fistful of boomstick
fatal frame
rallisport challenge
burnout 3
tom clancy's ghost recon
dead or alive 3
jade empire
manhunt
max payne 2
medal of honor: frontline
medal of honor: rising sun
ninja gaiden: black
star wars: jedi knight: jedi academy
star wars: knights of the old republic
halo
star wars: battlefront
fable

Here's the cross-referenced compilation list (Jim's Attic and The Official US MS BC List) of region-free BC titles. I cannot personally account for the validity of this list, but it should be good. I followed MS's ordering system.

Atari Anthology
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
Battlestar Galactica
Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Chaos Bleeds
Cabela's Deer Hunt 2005
Cabela's Outdoor Adventures 2006
Call of Duty: Finest Hour
Call of Duty 2: Big Red One
Cars
Conker: Live and Reloaded
Constantine
Counterstrike
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Dead or Alive Ultimate
Destroy All Humans
Doom 3
Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
Evil Dead: Regeneration
Far Cry: Instincts
Flatout
Forza Motorsport
Full Spectrum Warrior: Ten Hammers
Half-Life 2
Halo 2
Indigo Prophecy
Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis
Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude
Magic: The Gathering - Battleground
MechAssault 2: Lone Wolf
Mercenaries
Metal Arms: Glitch in the System
MTX Mototrax
MX vs. ATV Unleashed
Ninja Gaiden
Pariah
Outrun 2006: Coast 2 Coast
Over the Hedge
Predator: Concrete Jungle
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Project Gotham Racing 2
Rapala Pro Fishing
Raze's Hell
Rocky Legends
Rogue Trooper
Scarface: The World is Yours
Scrapland
Shellshock: Nam '67
Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy
Spider-Man 2
Splat Magazine Renegade Paintball
Star Wars Battlefront II
Stubbs the Zombie in "Rebel without a Pulse"
Tecmo Classic Arcade
Test Drive: Eve of Destruction
The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer
The Punisher
The Simpsons: Hit and Run
Thief: Deadly Shadows
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Island Thunder
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
Tony Hawk's Underground
Tony Hawk's Underground 2
True Crime: Streets of L.A.
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3: Night of the Quinkan
Ultimate Spider-Man
Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict
Vietcong: Purple Haze
Without Warning
World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 International
World Soccer Winning Eleven 9
XIII
 
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Hey buddy, a fellow Japan CAGer. Nice to see we have at least a few on here. I'm gonna pick up a jp 360 in the coming weeks, as Lost Planet is looking mighty good. I'm thinkin about just buying the Core system and an HD, so I can sell the system and keep the HD when I inevitably move back to the US.

And it's nice to see some original xbox games are B/C on jp systems. I assumed that none of them were. Thanks! Here's hoping Deathrow and Metal Arms are playable.:cool: I'll try and add whatever I can once I get one.

Take it easy
 
metal arms is on both lists, and it is for sale in japan under the "world" series, so it very well could be region free. if not, the jp edition is usually cheap and the world games are entirely in english (im pretty sure).
 
I just tested a few and it seems that the US version of Star Wars:Battlefront (PH) works on a JP 360 and Fable does not.
 
magatama looks quite nice. it's a little like otogi/ng, but not as good or as addictive as either. it can be had for a pretty low price from play-asia. unfortunately, i played through ninja gaiden and gears of war before playing it which means it would have suffered regardless of how good it was. i may go back and try it again, but i feel it probably just isn't that great a game.
 
all games are bumped up to 720p (maintaining their original aspect ratio) and are smoothed out with 4x anti-aliasing. there are some other benefits in performance that are not really touted. in gamespot's bc tests, they found that the draw distance in the incredible hulk was increased in addition to the added clarity. some games have glitches though.

seriously, ninja gaiden on 360 looks better than what ive seen so far on the ps3. it actually looks better than some 360 titles too.
 
well, good news and bad news with the recent BC update. finally, we've got some 2d fighting in the form of sf:ac, but pdo and jsrf are region-locked.

i just picked up a copy of psychonauts, and it's region-locked too.
 
i just added two titles to the personally verified list. knowing that activision has not region-locked any 360 games, i thought i'd give spider-man 2 a shot, and it worked. so i think it's pretty safe to assume that any activision games on the list can be played.

half-life 2 doesn't really benefit any from the 360. it might clean it up a bit, but the framerate remains pretty choppy. better to wait for the orange/black box.
 
here are the titles added to the list so you don't have to check:

Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil
Full Spectrum Warrior: Ten Hammers
Magic: The Gathering - Battleground
Outrun 2006 - Coast 2 Coast
Project Gotham Racing 2
Without Warning
Winning Eleven 8 International

btw, with the early tony hawk games being added, i imagine those are playable too. good old activision.
 
Considering you think the NES Ninja Gaiden's suck, I'm gonna have to assume your 13. That and you play the Hulk and Spiderman. I'm guessing Tecmo Bowl was garbage too, compared to NCAA 08, in your eyes.

You need to respect the roots, and recognize that without these classic games, there'd be no NEXT GEN.
Man, why are casual gamers so ignorant?
 
nice try, but no cigar.

have you ever played the original ninja gaiden? no, not the nes version, the arcade game. well, that was the game i expected to be getting a port of when i shelled out my birthday money way more than 13 years ago to buy. despite its departure from everything that ninja gaiden was, i tried to enjoy it. i didn't.

the nes version didn't respect its roots, and you've managed to prove your own roots to be shallower than you may have expected.
man, why are so many ignorants gamers?
 
The arcade version isn't what you were talking about. It wasn't a retro comparison, you flat out said that the NES versions sucked. Sure.,.. the quarter muncher looked better, and was faster.... but the creators made the effort to broaden it's appeal, give it it's own mythology, and deepen the gameplay; which they did.
There were no ROOTS back then, the medium was still finding it's footing in the home console market. With more memory, better graphics, and a chance for story driven chapter-type gaming, without the need to suck your pockets clean, developers had a freedom they hadn't had before.

I'm pretty sure you're the guy that will play Smash TV on free play, and then brag about your dominance.

I am far from ignorant, you are just a casual tard, trying to gain reputation by doing an internet fanservice that has been done much more thouroughly on many more reputable sites.
Grats.
Why don't you post some links to news articles that you found on Digg.
 
i should have guessed you'd miss the point, seeing as how you have come in with such ridiculous, unfounded assumptions, but you keep on trucking there, ace. ninja gaiden arcade was brought up because you talked about gaming roots, and the first of the series, the one that got me into it, was the arcade game, while the nes version got me out. ninja gaiden on xbox was the return to the roots of the series.

and do you mean to say that the arcade doesn't count as gaming roots? i think you're on to something there. why not try some more baseless attempts at guessing my gaming preferences and style while you're at it? you're doin so well with everything so far. have you considered being a profiler or historian?

or how about you just post the link to where it's been done better (check digg, perhaps?), and leave this thread be? i'll gladly give them what i've done if it'll help make a better list. i don't know what sort of reputation you imagine i hope to establish by providing information to the asia regional board of cheapassgamer, but it couldn't possibly rival the sort of reptutation that you are giving yourself as the sort of guy who is so incensed by the fact that someone said your beloved series sucked, that he would ramble on with mccarthyistic harangues resembling a casual gamer witchhunt. it's neither here, nor there, but rest assured, i don't float.

btw,
it's = it is
its is the possessive.
 
the american edition of morrowind is region locked. i just tested not even 2 minutes ago. i can't speak for the GOTY edition. this is the standard edition. it gave me the usual region code error message.
 
any word if the US version of rock band is compatible with a Japanese 360? play-asia has it as a question mark
 
according to play-asia, magatama is region-locked in both the jp and asian versions. i have an asian version, and if a friend comes around, i'll pass the game off to him to check it out, but you can be pretty sure it won't work.
 
cool. i'd appreciate the help, cause like you have said in a previous post the game does look good and i have been interested in it. especially when it somehow made the North American xbox 360 backward compatibility list some time ago, which of course really perked my curiosity in obtaining it.

also i understand the region locking and all, but it's still baffling as to how they made a game locked to region NTSC-J work on a NTSC-U/C console. i know that the xbox 360 utilizes a emulator to achieve this, but it's still weird how it works and hasnt been removed from the list since its addition.

also there are a few other notable entries on the list that are region locked as well on the North American backward compatible list. games like Guilty Gear Isuka region locked to NTSC-J, and Championship Manager 2006 region locked to PAL. there are others as well, but seemingly these games seem to work with the backward compatibility patches that seem to show that they support them by the games being on the list.

anyways thanks again thakingrocka if you can get your friend to help with this. the only thing he would need to make sure of is that he has the latest North American xbox 360 backward compatible patch to test it which i'll provide a link to at the bottom of this post. without it the game surely wont have a chance of working.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm
 
i actually forgot about the fact that magatama is listed on the US list. i should be able to give you an answer after the weekend.

btw, i haven't updated in a while. the last BC update was so disappointing to me, that i had little or no energy to go through it. since you're using the list though, i will go through it soon and update.
 
[quote name='aeroforce325']anyone tested Magatama on a U.S. 360 to see if it works? thanks[/QUOTE]

I hate to break it to you but I BELIEVE "Magatama" is on that list because MS is going to bring it to the U.S. market exclusively as part of the download service. This is my suspicion at least.
 
awesome. and by any chance would you have Guilty Gear Isuka on hand to test as well?? that's a game i'm also interested in as it also appears on the U.S. list. if you dont then that's fine. i'm sure the testing of magatama will answer that question, since the 360 backward compatibility team are basically saying the game should work by putting it on the U.S. list.

and i hate being such a pest, but also would you know where to obtain a cheap copy of those games if they happen to work? i check ebay every now and then and magatama never comes up in any searches. Guilty Gear Isuka only shows up for PS2 and PSP. i havent gone to the asian ebay sites yet either, as i dont know if the sellers would even sell worldwide or not....let alone the fact i dont know if my account will be useable on that end of ebay. and also i dont know if the sites convert the amount listed from w/e currency to USD.

again thanks thakingrocka. i appreciate the help. i would've done this testing myself, but man it would suck to buy a copy of either game at any price and find out they wouldnt work, and essentially know i'm stuck with them until a mod comes out to allow universal play of all supported games from each region.
 
[quote name='aeroforce325']awesome. and by any chance would you have Guilty Gear Isuka on hand to test as well?? that's a game i'm also interested in as it also appears on the U.S. list. if you dont then that's fine. i'm sure the testing of magatama will answer that question, since the 360 backward compatibility team are basically saying the game should work by putting it on the U.S. list.

and i hate being such a pest, but also would you know where to obtain a cheap copy of those games if they happen to work? i check ebay every now and then and magatama never comes up in any searches. Guilty Gear Isuka only shows up for PS2 and PSP. i havent gone to the asian ebay sites yet either, as i dont know if the sellers would even sell worldwide or not....let alone the fact i dont know if my account will be useable on that end of ebay. and also i dont know if the sites convert the amount listed from w/e currency to USD.

again thanks thakingrocka. i appreciate the help. i would've done this testing myself, but man it would suck to buy a copy of either game at any price and find out they wouldnt work, and essentially know i'm stuck with them until a mod comes out to allow universal play of all supported games from each region.[/QUOTE]

I bought the Asian version of "Magatama" on Play-Asia new for $10. Is it not there anymore? It has been up there for a while.
 
honestly i havent checked play-asia yet. even if i did i dont have a paypal account to pay with. nor a credit card at the moment.

and as for "I hate to break it to you but I BELIEVE "Magatama" is on that list because MS is going to bring it to the U.S. market exclusively as part of the download service. This is my suspicion at least. "

they didnt add Magatama just recently on the last update. it's practically been there since about 4th or 5th update to that list before the originals service was thought of. there's even a list on wikipedia that someone wrote up which seems to be for multi-regional testing purposes of each game on the list which indicates which region console a particular game works with via backward compatibility updates. how well it can be trusted i dont know.

besides that i really dont know what you been smoking, but the backward compatibility lists intention was to tell gamers which games were now compatible and playable with xbox 360. as in actual physical copies of games....it's not a list telling us what games will be made downloadable via the Xbox originals service. yeah microsoft may just be using the games on that list now to add to the originals service, but only because these games were already made to work with xbox 360 via custom emulators made for each individual game before the Xbox originals service was even conceived.

also think of this. emulators can allow other region games to run on different region hardware. an emulator isnt region specific. making a game run on it can either be easy or difficult. the backward compatibility team at microsoft may not have intended to make magatama backward with U.S. 360 systems, but must have found it easy to bypass region coding and let it stay on the list.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']I bought the Asian version of "Magatama" on Play-Asia new for $10. Is it not there anymore? It has been up there for a while.[/quote]


i checked recently and apparantly you got the last copy. it's listed as out of stock and out of print.
 
you could send off an email to the BC team to ask them about magatama. since they put it on the list, they should be able to answer questions on it.
 
[quote name='aeroforce325']i checked recently and apparantly you got the last copy. it's listed as out of stock and out of print.[/QUOTE]

I bought it a LONG time ago.
 
[quote name='thakingrocka']you could send off an email to the BC team to ask them about magatama. since they put it on the list, they should be able to answer questions on it.[/quote]

i tried that before and all i got was an automated response thanking me for my comments on the updates. i even tried calling the support number and the representative checked on it and couldnt give me a clear cut answer as to whether or not it worked. even after i guess he asked someone else when he put me on hold for about 15 minutes. so yeah one would figure that you could get a clear answer to this question without someone having to manually test and confirm that it will work.

i could try e-mailing the BC team again and i might get a better response out of it, but i'm kinda doubting it, cause even when i make a e-mail requesting certain games be added to the list i still get an automated response along the same lines as the above.

it's an up in the air type of deal, but i'm gonna e-mail them directly after ending this post which will be....now. i'll post back my results soon as i'm guessing i'll get an automated response.
 
i thought as much would happen though they sent me the automated response for thanking me about my comments about the backward compatibility instead of thanking for my interest in the updates, which i had gotten before as well as this one.


From:"Remote Mailer Fourteen" To:"Eric" Date:Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:02:48 -0800Subject:Xbox 360 Backward Compatibility#message6347169640269420158990686223623031227705 { overflow:auto; visibility:hidden }

Thanks for sending us your comments on Xbox 360 backward compatibility. We've just received your email. While we may not have time to directly respond to your email - we value your input and appreciate your taking the time to send us your thoughts.

If you haven’t already done so, please read the backwards compatibility FAQ at http://www.xbox.com/games/backwardscompatibilityfaq.htm which contains answers to many commonly asked questions.

Sincerely -
Xbox
 
hey. figured i'd just check back in this thread. thakingrocka said he was gonna go through the latest BC list entries, which really isnt necessary. i'm just looking for Magatama and Guilty Gear Isuka specifically. ever since my last post i been constantly checking ebay for Magatama or Guilty Gear Isuka. Guilty Gear showed up for xbox this time and a seller apparantly wants $34.99 total for it. i'm not sure if the game can be had for cheaper anywhere else, but web searches for importing sites have basically beaten me back, by either not having xbox or xbox 360 products or simply having weak selections. some also didnt have the games at all, though i did see Magatama at one site. www.toysnjoys.com. they want the full price of the game as though it were just released. meh to them.

so it's been rough going as of late. i'll keep looking and who knows....if i cant Guilty Gear Isuka cheaper anywhere i may just cave and buy it from ebay for $35.99. Magatama seems to be the only tough one to find at a decent price.
 
neither magatama, nor isuka is particularly good.

i played isuka for ps2, and while i like it better than similar games like smash, it's just not as much fun as gg proper.

magatama is rather lackluster. i was expecting more from it, but the combat just isn't that gratifying.

i know these words may not do much to deter you, but i just don't want you to go crazy hunting these things down only to find them to be disappointing. brace yourself.

btw, i forgot to take magatama to my friend's recently. sorry about that.
 
eh it's cool. as for the games being lackluster. i've played some rather lackluster games before. i already played Culdcept Saga. i find it annoying at points, but i do play it. i've even gone and gotten Magic The Gathering Battlegrounds from the original xbox and i like that as well even though i havent beaten it, cause i'm stuck at a particular battle...i'm sure i have others that people consider lackluster, but i dont mind playing them.

i have spotted magatama at play-asia recently, though they got it priced at a less than desirable price....even for a out of print game and it's used. $49.90. Guilty Gear Isuka on ebay hasnt changed from it's $34.99 total.
 
sorry about the crazy wait. magatama is region-locked. i have the asia edition, and my friend tried it on his american system only to be greeted with the region mismatch message.
 
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