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Richard Kain

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#13809367 Limited Run Games Thread - Lili SE/CE [PS4] & N++[PS4] on August 18th. L...

Posted by Richard Kain on Yesterday, 08:25 PM

Lili, on paper, is a bad investment for a reseller.  That said it's fairly low print and it seems the very low print games are the ones that tend to have the most value.  Sort of like Breach & Clear.


Breach and Clear didn't have much re-sale value at all initially. Its second-hand price didn't start going up until later, after LRG had made a name for itself and some collectors started gunning for a complete collection. It was also a little-known game from an unknown developer. Lili is in a similar situation. As such, its value for short-term flippers is very poor. It might get a little bit of a boost from the reputation of LRG, and the interest of hard-core completionist collectors, but that's it. Flippers should avoid it if they know what's good for them.


Speculators are a different matter. As with Breach and Clear, its entirely possible that the long-term second-hand price of Lili will go up. A year from now, it could be worth a lot more. If the game is able to get more exposure, or gets a sequel, or the developer release another game that gets more attention, the circumstances will change. And these changes could drastically alter the long-term demand for a game with an extremely finite physical supply.


Again, all of this is moot to me, little more than an analytical exercise. I don't sell, I collect.

#13809327 Limited Run Games Thread - Lili SE/CE [PS4] & N++[PS4] on August 18th. L...

Posted by Richard Kain on Yesterday, 07:38 PM

There were more listings of Lili Limited Edition on ebay immediately after release than both Night Trap and Wonder Boy immediately after those sold out.


Those scalpers are going to get burned. While Lili sold out quickly on LRG (largely thanks to scalpers) the game is not well known. Even with the very small stock, the demand for it second-hand isn't going to be anywhere near as high as Night Trap. The eBay flippers are not going to turn a very good profit from it.


You have to evaluate these things. It's not enough to just point at a recent release and expect similar results from every LRG game. Savvy flippers would have held off on a release like Lili. The ones who go in hard on a release like this are the ones who are just blindly following trends, and not putting any actual thought into individual releases. Even N++ is a better flipping opportunity, despite selling slower than Lili. It is actually from an established franchise with a decent amount of exposure and credibility.


I ordered a copy of Lili, but I'm a collector, not a flipper. I care more about the critical appraisal of the game as opposed to any resale value. I've never sold a game from my collection, and all of my acquired LRG titles will enjoy a permanent place on my shelf.

#13809223 Limited Run Games Thread - Lili SE/CE [PS4] & N++[PS4] on August 18th. L...

Posted by Richard Kain on Yesterday, 05:25 PM

Yeah, I don't think anyone should be worried about VBlank and the Guacamelee release. It hasn't sold out the way that LRG releases do because it doesn't have the same brand awareness. There aren't nearly as many people aware of them as a physical publisher, and they didn't hype up the release before it was available on their website. And their past physical releases have all sold out, but they did so much more slowly than LRG releases usually do. In truth, the sales for Guacamelee have been quite a bit faster than VBlank's previous releases.


And like most of the fans here, I would encourage anyone interested to pick up a copy of Guacamelee. I love that game. I can't say enough good things about Guacamelee, and it's developer DrinkBox. Those guys have made several very good games, and Guacamelee in particular is an excellent example of their work.

#13808391 Smaller/Obscure/Limited Physical Release Deals and Discussion Thread

Posted by Richard Kain on 17 August 2017 - 06:11 PM

Guacamelee is a better game than 90% of LRG titles. We should support good games.


Man, don't try to start drama over LRG here. It's apples and oranges attempting to hold LRG up beside VBlank. I'm pretty sure this is the only physical release that VBlank has ever put out from a developer that isn't VBlank. Comparing them to a company who primarily publishes other developers' work isn't fair. Of course there's going to be a disparity in average critical appraisal. VBlank has only had two real physical releases.


That said, I do agree that Guacamelee is a very good game, and deserves to be supported. It didn't take me very long to put in my order. I have multiple digital copies of Guacamelee, and have already played through the entirety of the game. This does not deter me, it is a truly deserving game that I hold in very high esteem. It has earned a place in my physical collection.

#13808299 Smaller/Obscure/Limited Physical Release Deals and Discussion Thread

Posted by Richard Kain on 17 August 2017 - 04:45 PM

Got my order in for Guacamelee. I really like that game. I already own it on three different digital platforms, and I still want to buy the physical copy from VBlank.

#13807840 Steelbook Worldwide Exclusive 2017

Posted by Richard Kain on 16 August 2017 - 11:48 PM

I'm curious as to why you didn't preorder GOTG Vol. 2 or the Lion King?  Both were available for preorder for a long time.  I find that I'd rather preorder and not have to stress about getting to a store at 10am to hopefully snag a copy.  Most steelbooks arrive undamaged for me (except of course the last Alien steelbook).


I just don't pre-order store-exclusive steelbooks. I live in an area where I have fairly easy access to two different Best Buys, so it's not like I'm without options. And until more recently, it hasn't been as hard to get my hands on these. When they first started doing these steelbooks, they would be available for as much as a week after launch. It's only in the past year or so that they have started selling out quickly. And while I like the steelbooks, I don't need them. If I miss out on getting one, it's not the end of the world.

#13806829 Limited Run Games Thread - Lili SE/CE [PS4] & N++[PS4] on August 18th. L...

Posted by Richard Kain on 15 August 2017 - 08:40 PM

This would be a fairly easy scam to pull off.


Step 1: Become a popular YouTuber. With the amount of screamy let's-play maniacs that manage to get followings, it can't be that hard.


Step 2: Go out and pick up a large number of copies of a game that costs next to nothing. Ideally, you make it a game that is reasonably obscure, but not worth anything at present on the second hand market. There are tons of these. Shoot for something from the cartridge systems, as that will give it greater credibility.


Step 3: Produce a YouTube video on your channel extolling the virtues of this hidden gem you've discovered, and your personal story of how you found a rare copy at some out-of-the-way flea-market. Tell all your viewers that the second hand price is going to be rapidly rising soon, so NOW is the time to get in on it.


Step 4: When the manufactured buzz spikes the demand for the title, dump the stock you acquired in Step 2. Profit.


Step 5: Repeat steps 1-4 for a different title. Also, be sure to post a video showing how the second-price of the first title spiked recently, and congratulate everyone who got a copy at a lower price. Congratulate yourself in the video for having accurately predicted this turn of events, and then start into the pitch for your latest flip-bait.

#13803744 Limited Run Games Thread - Lili SE/CE [PS4] & N++[PS4] on August 18th. L...

Posted by Richard Kain on 11 August 2017 - 09:49 PM

Yeah, the Bunker is thematically appropriate, which is part of the reason it went as fast as it did this morning. But it does not have nearly the notiriety of Night Trap. It will likely last longer this afternoon. Night Trap will last longer than it did in the morning, but we might still be looking at a sell out inside of five minutes. Don't hesitate if you're hoping to get a copy. If you're nervous about your chances, pick up a copy of Night Trap first, and then see about getting a copy of The Bunker.

#13797574 amiibo Deals and Discussion Thread

Posted by Richard Kain on 04 August 2017 - 05:08 PM

For the Boynetta and Corrin figures, I could honestly go for either. Both the P1 and P2 have decent designs. The designs are also fairly similar. you have a bit of a color change and different hairstyle on Bayonetta, but that's about it. On Corrin it is a different pose and different gender, but the stylistic elements are almost identical.


The biggest change for this series is Cloud. And honestly, Nintendo did us all a favor by making the P1 version the FF7 original version, and gave the Advent Children version out as a store exclusive. I would have been fine having to wait on the P2 version. I vastly prefer the more iconic and visually interesting P1 version of Cloud from FF7. Just a way better and more appealing design. Emo-goth Cloud from Advent Children is not an appealing design.

#13795053 Anime & Manga Steals and Deals (Rightstuf, Amazon, DD...etc)

Posted by Richard Kain on 01 August 2017 - 05:17 PM

This is a little worrying. Funimation has for years been a major purveyor of affordable anime releases. They have provided a solid balance between price and quality. And they've pretty good a this, despite their tendency for prolific releases. (why release something once when you could release it three times, wheee!) But seriously, Funimation has kept anime acquisition reasonably affordable. If they shift their focus based on a corporate acquisition, it's going to shake things up in anime publishing.

#13794260 Limited Run Games Thread - Lili SE/CE [PS4] & N++[PS4] on August 18th. L...

Posted by Richard Kain on 31 July 2017 - 06:49 PM

Indie games being unknown is one of the big issues of being an indie developer. Discoverability is always a challenge, quite a bit more so with today's crowded digital marketplaces. This is actually a big part of why so many indie developers have been knocking on LRG's door lately. A service like LRG is technically another avenue for public promotion of an indie title. Thanks to the existing fanbase and consumers of LRG titles, any game that is released by LRG is automatically going to get additional attention. Even if the consumers don't decide to buy the title, they will still look it up to learn about it before making a purchasing decision. A LRG release of an indie title inherently increases the exposure for a lesser-known title. Some indie developers might want to get their games released by LRG just to get a boost in public awareness.


Once more indie developers get clued into this possibility, LRG is essentially going to be able to sign about any indie title they want. (and possibly even a few titles from larger publishers) Eventually, there will be a real temptation to start picking sure hits from well-known indie titles. I, for one, hope that we continue to get a few more obscure titles thrown into the mix. I like being surprised by some of the offerings, and seeing new games that I may not have heard of.

#13790637 Japanese Niche Games Deals & Discussion Thread 4.0

Posted by Richard Kain on 27 July 2017 - 10:06 PM

Was really bummed out when IKEA stopped selling those media sized bookcases that are only six inches deep.


Yeah, a lot of the furniture places have started phasing out media storage. I blame the rise of digital media streaming. These days a lot of people are content to make do with streaming subscriptions. But I'll always be a physical collector.


One of my big problems is just lack of space. I got a lot of those media shelves you're talking about when they were still available, and covered one of the walls of my condo with them. But now I've basically run out of walls. My place is not very big to begin with. In order to consolidate my collection, as well as sock away repeat content, I started storing a lot of my older discs in 3-ring binders. When you "break-down" a DVD, it is possible to squeeze it into a much smaller space. The paper inserts and keep-case covers go in a plastic storage tub, and when removed from the keep-case they can squeeze down real tight. The discs go in 8-disc storage pages in a large 3-ring-binder. I can squeeze 200+ discs in one of those things. The old keep-cases go in boxes in the garage. They're quite hardy, and can endure such an environment once the paper elements have been removed. Using this method I basically mothballed all of my old DVDs, most of which were made obsolete by Blu-Rays. A lot of anime got squirreled away this way. Alphabetizing it was quite the chore.

#13790545 Japanese Niche Games Deals & Discussion Thread 4.0

Posted by Richard Kain on 27 July 2017 - 08:58 PM

I'm lucky enough to have a good friend who keeps up with the new anime scene. I frequently watch newer series with him, based on his recommendations. This means that there's a huge swath of current anime that I simply don't have to bother with. He will frequently sample all of the newer material, and screen it for me. It saves a lot of time, as I can focus on the shows that have already been vetted.


A lot of my collecting of anime recently has been much more focused on the re-releases of certain classic shows that have long-term appeal. Outlaw Star got re-released recently, and the Ranma 1/2 and Sailor Moon series have been getting proper Blu-Ray release over the past few years.


As far as anime-inspired games go, I'm really feeling good about the release schedule for the Switch. We're seeing publishers like NIS and Nicalis releasing a sizable number of Japanese games at mid-tier prices. I've missed having proper mid-tier options. We could do with more games coming out in the $20 - $40 range. A lot of upcoming Japanese Switch entries are all coming in around that MSRP.

#13783685 Limited Run Games Thread - Lili SE/CE [PS4] & N++[PS4] on August 18th. L...

Posted by Richard Kain on 20 July 2017 - 05:19 AM

And now days even if you have pre-orders it doesn't mean anything. Even the pre-orders "sell out" in 5 minutes and are gone forever (see Mario Rabids CE, Master Edition etc).  


That's not actually a true pre-order scenario, though. Those collectors editions are always intended to have fixed quantities that don't increase. So the publisher isn't going to increase the stock to respond to increased pre-orders. They simply cut the pre-orders off when they reach the end of their stock, pretty much exactly the way that Limited Run Game releases currently work. They call it something different, but it functions exactly the same way.


The pre-orders that LRG has been engaging in don't function that way. They print out however many copies were pre-ordered. So there is no pre-defined limit. More people pre-order, more copies will get produced. The thing is, with the one major PS4 pre-order campaign that they ran, they actually got fewer pre-orders than the usual number of copies they sell in a typical Friday release.


This is a matter of psychology. The limited runs they engage in during a pre-defined time frame artificially increases demand in the minds of the consumers. The immediacy of needing to buy it RIGHT NOW or the opportunity will be gone forever influences buying decisions. And while the flipper/speculators are a huge annoyance to a collector like me, their inclusion in the mix helps to cement the benefit of not hesitating. If I wait on any of these titles, I know that I won't be able to pick them up for any less than double their original price. So whatever LRG is charging, I know that it is the lowest price I'm ever going to see. So there's no reason to hesitate or wait.


A lengthy pre-order campaign will always lack that sense of urgency. Nothing is running out, so there's no reason to rush into a decision. There's no pressure, no opportunity cost. And this drastically reduces the perceived demand in the minds of the consumers.

#13783362 Limited Run Games Thread - Lili SE/CE [PS4] & N++[PS4] on August 18th. L...

Posted by Richard Kain on 19 July 2017 - 10:13 PM

Theoretically, companies like LRG should be the only ones offering pre-orders. Their approach to the practice actually insures that a greater number of a given title will be available. (because the pre-order actually goes towards production, instead of just sitting in a bank and collecting interest) And their approach also helps to guarantee that anyone who wants a potentially scarce title will have the chance to acquire that title. The only drawback is that the more successful such a campaign is, the less scarce the title will be. This kind of flies in the face of the whole "Limited Run" thing, as the limit for the run is then determined purely by the demand of the customers.


For GameStop, pre-orders are a complete racket. They get to pitch them as a guarantee of acquiring stock, but this is essentially a complete fabrication. If GameStop ends up without enough stock to cover your pre-order, they don't give you anything to compensate you for their failure in logistics. The worst-case scenario for them is that you demand a refund on your pre-order, and take your business elsewhere. And even in this scenario, they got to hang onto your money for months ahead of time, and have already turned a profit on the transaction thanks to interest. So the whole thing is basically smoke and mirrors. GameStop gives you nothing for your pre-order, gets to hang onto your money for quite some time, and incurs zero risk over the entire racket. Is it any wonder they're so enthusiastic about pushing pre-orders?