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#14506972 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 23 November 2022 - 06:02 PM

Hey there Pravado, thanks for the answer. Sorry for the weird terminology I am using, it is actually an Spanish translation from "secundario", it means the user who does not activate their console. So they need to play from the account where the game was bought. I also think they were called "resells" here. The primaries slots are safe, because they don't need to log to the account were the game was bought.

 

For HFW the difference was that it was the Deluxe Edition, but I am pretty sure we were able to play 4 people at the same time. However we will be doing more testing and report anything we find.

 

In a side note, maybe you could think that it is a very cheap strategy, but we are in a Country with a terrible exchange rate, nowadays our currency it is worth 1/5000 one USD. That make games very difficult to afford over here :(

 

Regards

 

Deluxe edition doesn't affect anything, all games/content work the same (except for most season passes which cannot be shared period)

 

I think we referred to them like this

 

Locked slot = has to play on that specific account that bought the game, and has to be signed in online

Resell slot = doesn't need to be signed into the acct, activates console as their "main" system and can play on any user

 

One locked slot per account, two resell slots per account (one ps4, one ps5) is how I believe it works. You cannot do any more than that. If you had 4 people playing at once, no idea how you did it but it shouldn't be possible. Only way that might be possible is if one of the resell slots signed offline, then another person "took" that resell slot activation through their console. The person offline can still play for a little while but eventually will require them to sign online or the game won't work - and when they do they won't have the activation slot anymore so it would lock




#14506835 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 23 November 2022 - 01:00 AM

Hey Fellas, long time. Sad to know about QDizzle situation.

 

I wanted to ask about the gamesharing for PS4 and PS5, I made a group for Forbidden West and we were able to play both, PS4 and PS5 secondaries at the same time.

 

But we did the same with GoW Ragnarok, and it seems secondaries can no longer play at the same time. At least from my preliminary testing.

 

I wanted to know if someone has some knowledge about this situation.

 

Regards

 

You can have two people logged into the same user, but you can only have one game being played on any account at any time. If you're playing X on PS4/5 and someone logs into the acct and starts Y on PS4/5, it'll kick the first user off. If you're saying this is how HZD worked for you, it was a fluke and IDK how you pulled it off, shouldn't be possible. Doesn't matter if it's a combination of PS4 and 5 either, one game per account can run at any time that's it.

 

If by secondary slot you mean going to activate it as primary or whatever in the acct settings so that any user on that console can play it, that shouldn't be an issue to have one person on PS4 playing and one on PS5. Each account has one slot allocated to PS4 and one to PS5. In that situation, you can both be activated as primary and go back on your main accounts and each play. If this is what you meant when you played Horizon and now GoW is not working, you're doing something wrong.

 

The proper way to split games now is essentially having one PS4 slot, one PS5 slot (both activated as primary and you go on your mains and play), and if you're really trying to cheap out you can let someone log in the account itself and play on the account.

 

Been so long I forgot the terminology we use but that's the gist of it. I could be wrong but I think we called the second situation a resell slot and the first situation a primary slot. So "secondary" threw me off.




#14504380 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 13 November 2022 - 06:37 PM

So what happened to QDizzle?

Some idiot he rented to did something stupid and a lot of his accounts got the axe from Sony. He went dark after that. He will always be the godfather of this community IMO. Reach out and support him if you guys can. He helped keep affordable gaming alive for us when the resell situation dropped off a cliff.




#14502207 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 02 November 2022 - 07:01 PM

The PS3 era of gamesharing on this site was a time to be alive. We all are cheap asses, but back then some of us were straight up broke. Yet we never had to worry about missing out on the latest releases because this place made it extremely affordable (especially in the 5 slot days, being able to get a $60 game for as cheap as $12!) I'd take the old CAG gamesharing ways over any kind of subscription service that's available these days. I still visit this thread every few days/weeks and will continue to do so as long as it exists.

What's silly is that you can still do 3 slots. 2 activation slot (one on PS4, one on PS5) and 1 locked slot. Technically could do 2 locked spots (one for PS4 and one for PS5) but they can't play at the same time which would cause issues. Could absolutely do like a 40%/40%/20% split on a $70 game. Rentals were just easier though, and I wonder how much that played into people stop buying/reselling games. Way easier to just rent. But now even that's seemingly gone. Maybe we did this to ourselves lol. The real problem though is there aren't any trustworthy users anymore. I've just found IRL friends to split 50/50 with and share mains with at this point. Absolutely sucks to have so many trustworthy people here just move on from gaming. Even that library I ran at one point, I was SUPER careful with who I let in and we still ended up losing access to many of those accounts. Don't know if I can ever fully trust anyone after that experience.

 

At the very least, many of us got to experience so many games we wouldn't have otherwise. Cheers to that.




#14500303 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 22 October 2022 - 06:01 PM

Amazing that this thread has stood for 8 years! I miss those old days man!

Same. Past 3 or so years it's just been dead in here though, there's like zero care for anyone to sell resells or gameshare anymore. And recently some ahole wrecked the entire library of the one guy who was keeping things alive - they deserve true torture. Greed from scammers and thieves (absolute peasant scum) killed this whole great thing we had going. Pisses me off. Especially considering with PS5 now there's ways to do multiple slots again and just nobody cares or has moved on. That trust will never be there again like we used to have it, nor should it. Also gotta put some blame on Sony for doing the mass reset and killing off significant amount of PS3 accounts that seem to just be unrecoverable.

 

Anyone who is still buying digital, I don't see the point of buying it on your main account instead of on a separate one that you could resell, given the way licenses work. We should definitely have resells being sold left and right and I don't know why we don't honestly. Personally I split games with friends on our mains and that's why I don't have resells, but I can't imagine everyone is in that situation. Given how stingy most PSN sales are there is money to be made by resellers, and money to be saved by buyers. It's a win/win.

 

Such a shame though, nothing will ever come close to the level of affordability we used to have, despite it all still being doable within Sony's current system. We had a golden age and idiots ruined it. We'll never have it again. Glad to still see some faces check in here and there though




#14479375 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 23 May 2022 - 01:49 AM

Thanks. I thought it was for the Premium. I only got the regular Plus.

For the cost of what it would take to rent a game that long, you're better off just upping your sub lol. Only way to really rent anything nowdays is if QD has it. Gamesharing is dead, nobody buys games to loan anymore unfortunately. Or if they do, they ain't here




#14464577 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 23 February 2022 - 08:21 PM

Alright so I have a bit of a question, sorry if this has been covered elsewhere;

I have a PS5 and have sold my PS4. I play my PS4 games on my PS5, if I let my sister use my account on her PS4, will I lose access to those games on my PS5?

Works the same exact way as PS4. So long as you are signed directly into your main account, and she has it activated as primary on her system, she can use those games on any other user. Only thing to note is you cannot both be signed into your account at the same time (tell her to play on her own acct), and your games will not work if you lose connection to the internet (they might work for a few hours but will eventually lock if not reconnected)




#14434057 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 04 November 2021 - 08:24 PM

Sorry if my message came off in any certain way, I was mostly just continuing the discussion you guys were having not talking to anyone in specific lol

 

Maybe a new methodology to consider - I had a good format in the past but never put it to the test. It can still work but only if half the group is on PS4 and half on PS5 since slots aren't shared.

 

 

Person X (can be anyone): Pays 50% of cost of game up front, guaranteed both resell slots after one month

Person A: Gets game upon release for 2 weeks PS4 slot, pays 15% of game cost up front

Person B: Gets game upon release for 2 weeks PS5 slot, pays 15% of game cost up front

Person C: Gets game next 2 weeks PS4 slot, pays 10% of game cost up front

Person D: Gets game next 2 weeks PS5 slot, pays 10% of game cost up front

 

Person X can then either rent the slots out to recoup money, or even resell the game for more than they paid if there are people willing to buy. I think we should have a universal unofficial rule that buying and selling a resell is for both slots PS4 and PS5 - we had a lot of issues in the past splitting up ps3 and ps4 this way, plus people stealing accounts.

 

I would only do this with trusted vets in the group, but the resell can go to anyone I guess. No locked slot stuff, just creates problems. The host of everything on each game should be the person trusted most, and once you're locked in and paid and the game is purchased there's no backing out or there would be too many complications. Bonus points if the host lives in a state that doesn't pay tax. Taxes will have to be divided up otherwise.

 

Everyone would come out ahead and get to play what they want for cheap, and would create more games available to all. Those who can afford to wait can get games within a month at half price. Getting 5 people to fit in this format would be a little tough, but for those games that are really must plays, I think we would have the numbers




#14404476 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 18 June 2021 - 08:28 PM

The mass PS3 account reset was a huge blow to this community and the removal of 4 slots per acct was the death of it. The new resell/phantom split wasn't worth the savings for most people and most left. We are truly in the dark days of cheap ass gaming.




#14378136 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 17 February 2021 - 05:49 AM

Can a game be activated on a PS4 AND a PS5 without issue?

 

I'd assume yes

Yes




#14368504 PSNOT 3.0 - Let's Talk About University of Kentucky, Baby!

Posted by Pravado on 09 January 2021 - 04:54 PM

My guy, I genuinely hope you get the help you need. I don't mean to sound rude or too straight-to-the-point. You seem to have good intentions, nobody is taking that away from you. But there is clearly a need for professional help. Please consider it if you are not already.




#14366285 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 31 December 2020 - 10:05 AM

No, according to what I’ve read, you can import your PS4 save into the remastered PS5 version, and the trophies will pop automatically.

https://www.gamesrad...ed-them-on-ps4/


I can confirm this works, did it a few weeks back. Dlc pops too. At launch, didn’t work. They patched it in afterwards.


#14359970 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 11 December 2020 - 07:47 PM

that's half truthful, when payment was sent (3 days prior to game release) i said

 

"only requirement i have is that you are done downloading and ready to be phantomed by tuesday at 11am est. this should not be an issue given that preload is up right now

 

also if for some reason it doesn't show up under downloads or on the psn store available for download you can sign into the psn store website and go to download list or something and download it through there"

 

no mention of "the preload isn't working" until the day of, and I took off work to play it. i also offered either a refund or a phantom within a few days

 

 

 

 

since you are man enough to admit you were wrong, no harm no foul. i forgive you




#14353728 CAG Black Friday 2020 Spreadsheet

Posted by Pravado on 27 November 2020 - 05:11 PM

What if you never see her again and she just took your games?

I’m a bad sharer. I had bad childhood experiences where things were returned to me in poor condition (or not at all), so I don’t share anything with anyone.

Based on the way he is trying to flaunt with the way he worded that, she most definitely is not coming back lol.




#14346792 CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

Posted by Pravado on 14 November 2020 - 04:08 PM

If anyone is doing PS5 rentals please let me know. I'm willing to pay above average rental prices.