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#13364511 Wait...what? Gary Johnson...I think I love you!

Posted by mrsilkunderwear on 12 June 2016 - 11:39 PM

It seems to me that some of you still do not understand libertarianism. We do not expect free market to be perfect and people to know what is best for everyone. By scaling things back we want people to have a say in their future and decide what is best for themselves. We actually agree with liberals on a lot of issues but have a different approach. Take gay marriage for example. Progressives believe it should be legalized and forced up religious institutions. Libertarians believe that we should get the government out of it and let consenting adults marry without an obstruction. 

 

We want to get rid of government waste and social programs because they are inefficient and unethical. For example IRS can be completely eliminated if we simplify the tax code. EPA has legalized pollution. In many other cases the negatives outweigh the benefits. 

 

Penn Jillette does a good job describing libertarianism: 




#13360023 Wait...what? Gary Johnson...I think I love you!

Posted by berzirk on 08 June 2016 - 07:33 PM

This was really well done.  I dig that he is owning the quirky goofiness, and going all in. In my world...it's literally impossible for him to be worse than the Democratic and Republican nominees (and doh, I still need to look into Stein more).

 

 

Maybe I underestimated the importance of the "old" Daily Show in guiding us through the political process, but based on this piece, and the little I knew of Jaguar Johnson from before...I think he has my vote, and I'm happy to vote for him.  This feels strange. 

 

 




#13360137 Wait...what? Gary Johnson...I think I love you!

Posted by berzirk on 08 June 2016 - 08:53 PM

Wow...worse than Hillary and Trump?  I definitely couldn't get on board with that. I think Clinton and Trump have the potential to be dangerous to our country.  I don't see Jaguar Johnson as dangerous. At worst, I see him as aloof. 




#13360337 Wait...what? Gary Johnson...I think I love you!

Posted by TheN8torious on 08 June 2016 - 11:16 PM

Joe Rogan had him on his podcast a few weeks back. You can get a very good feel for what Johnson's beliefs are just from this. Some of it is reasonable stuff...but I just can't get behind "Hey guys, let's get rid of the IRS, EPA, public schools, etc. We don't need those old concepts holding back our true growth as individuals. People are totally trustworthy and responsible enough to self-regulate. No...really. No..I'm serious. Stop...stop laughing..."

 

 

Even Rogan (who is no political genius by any means) raises questions about limits and how do you stop people from abusing such an open system...and Johnson basically tries to sell him a bridge. Libertarian economic policies are just crazy pie in the sky shit that feels like you're getting conned. Johnson seems like a decent guy...maybe even somebody you'd have a beer with. But I don't trust him to look out for anyone's interests other than his own.




#13364478 Wait...what? Gary Johnson...I think I love you!

Posted by mrsilkunderwear on 12 June 2016 - 11:12 PM

Nah, he definitely worse than Hilary and Trump. Sure, the little skit was fun(ny), but if it were up to libertarians, they'd strip the country of every social program and social safety net there is. Fuck libertarians.

umad bro?