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#13842837 snes classic O F F I C I A L thread

Posted by portnoyd on 29 September 2017 - 04:28 PM

It's because those Amazon orders are not real. That was readily apparent when someone on Neogaf ordered 99.

Speaking of which, does anyone know how to set an Amazon page to Amazon.com as the seller if they're out of stock and there are many third-party sellers? I am preparing for Amazon to possibly list their actual stock at 1:30 pm est like they do with their exclusive amiibos.

#13815053 SNES Classic Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 23 August 2017 - 10:30 PM

I think it's pretty clear that the poster believes reselling is illegal - there's not exactly many ways to misinterpret "Reselling is illegal." 


It's possible that the question was intended as rhetorical.  However, even if resellers were removed from the equation, I'm not sure that there would still be sufficient supply to meet the perceived demand.  Of course, if resellers were gone, there's a good chance that Nintendo's sales estimates and production would be altered in some way, thereby having an effect on the total supply. 


Actually, reselling items that you legally bought as an individual (not a corporation or business) is perfectly legal in the USA.  Its gets sticky if someone is turning this into a business venture, not an isolated case of "I'm selling my one item."  There are tax and warranty implications that may need to be considered when dealing with an electronic device (such as a SNES Classic), but nothing that can't be overcome with careful consideration. 


Make no mistake, I have no intention to encourage, enable, or advocate the practice of reselling through any of my discussions.  I'm being practical and analyzing the situation for what it is: a legal reality. 


From your perspective, reselling will most certainly make it more challenging for you to secure a preorder, and likely the final product at release.  However, that distinction is only valid in the short term - over time, either the resellers will find another purchaser (at an inflated price) or the product will be returned to retail channels. 


Remember - nobody is entitled to anything.  Just because a good of trade is provided by the manufacturer does not give you (or anyone) the right to purchase it.  Availability can and always will be an issue...for anything of sale.  It's been said many times before: the best way to combat reselling (if it gets under your skin) is to not support it.  Its existence is fueled by enablers.

It's pretty clear you know that the response you know to be true is going to funnel you into finally being proven wrong in the original question, that being:



I would wager hard cash that if you completely removed the reselling aspect of the demand, there would be just enough systems to fulfill the demand from those wanting to keep the damn thing. 



Not a chance.



So you drown your post in deflection (no one believes you really thought I wasn't being hypothetical) so no one notices you gave the answer to my question (bolded above).


So, yes, it would get easier to secure a preorder and the gap between those who want one and who would get them would decrease. My wager is it could completely close and there could be a chance of that.


You aren't an economist; you are a politician. 

#13814562 SNES Classic Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 23 August 2017 - 02:13 PM

That's exactly my point. Resellers do not add to the demand, they defer it.

No, they double it. Once for the reseller, again for the person who buys it from them. I am saying demand, you are saying sales. The reseller and the their eventual buyer both want the item from the retailer, which is twice the demand (but for different reasons). The reseller defers the sale.

How many people wanted to preorder yesterday, failed to and bought one on eBay? Those people wanted it for their own use (their contribution to demand) but the resellers wanted it to resell (their demand contribution).

I think we are both in agreement but either myself or you are not using the right language to describe our points.

#13814061 SNES Classic Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 23 August 2017 - 12:04 AM

The Amazon listing was a boner. The real Amazon listing will go up on release day between 1:30pm-2:00pm EST, just like when they put amiibos up. 


There is no way Amazon would allow ordering as many as people have. The CSRs people have talked to know nothing about item listings and cannot be trusted. They are nowhere near the actual Amazon supply chain - quite literally since it's probably outsourced halfway around the world. Just because it said stocked by Amazon doesn't mean anything.The Game Trust line should have had everyone's bullshit sensors going off like crazy (and even moreso now that the listing has been deleted). 


And so this doesn't seem like a sour grapes post, I do have a preorder from Target.

#13812804 SNES Classic up at best buy

Posted by portnoyd on 22 August 2017 - 12:19 PM


Lock the thread, no, lock life, we're done here. Amazeballs. 

#13812731 SNES Classic up at best buy

Posted by portnoyd on 22 August 2017 - 10:49 AM

I don't think the Amazon listing was real. Two reasons:


1. Amazon limits their exclusive amiibos to one per person and releases them on the day of release. While this isn't amiibo, why would they use a different tactic on something so limited?


2. Amazon CSRs don't know anything about any one specific product. It's like talking to someone who doesn't know your language and all they know how to say is 'Yes' or 'Uh huh'.

#13805151 SNES Classic Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 13 August 2017 - 08:41 PM

Really should just make a new thread and sticky that. The 3200+ replies here are not doing anyone any good and to anyone new, they may not know it'd be a total waste of time to look at any of them but the first.

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#13778284 SNES Classic Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 13 July 2017 - 05:47 PM

I'm going to troll post and ambiguously say I got a snes mini preorder but not right now. I'll wait a couple hundred posts in this thread to see if anyone remembers me saying this before I do it.

#13778061 SNES Classic Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 13 July 2017 - 10:27 AM

I'm really going to regret this but ...


#13773689 SNES Classic Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 09 July 2017 - 11:27 PM

Hey guys, have you noticed that you can't say SNES Classic without NES Classic? Crazy, right

#13756078 SNES Classic Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 27 June 2017 - 12:51 AM

Thanks for the heads-up! Have you had success with this?

Yes, I most recently used it to get a Fire Emblem Echoes LE from Amazon as well as used it a good amount during the original amiibo hype. Just be sure to set the monitored element to something that will change when it comes in stock. The app doesn't actually know if the item is in stock or not, it just tells you if a page has changed. However, that's good enough for our purposes.

#13756037 SNES Classic Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 27 June 2017 - 12:29 AM

This was guaranteed to happen. I remember lots of entertainment in the amiibo LINE group with people who were perfectly nice suddenly flip and post genitalia in the alerts group at 3am.

As long as those twatwaffles are still around, it'll happen again. Don't bother with discord if you have an Android phone:




Install this app, add the direct page to the mini and select the Coming Soon button element for monitoring. Set it to check every minute (unless you have your hands tied by low data cap) and set the notifications as you choose. 

#12567691 amiibo Deals and Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 14 March 2015 - 09:16 PM

What is this line you speak of?


Also, line app?

#12547887 amiibo Deals and Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 05 March 2015 - 12:02 AM

big difference between not sympathizing with them and being annoyed because you're getting attitude for asking if a product is in stock because you'd like to give their store money and support their job/business. They aren't police or military so I can only spare so much sympathy for these miserable jerks....

Totally missed the point.

#12547857 amiibo Deals and Discussion Thread

Posted by portnoyd on 04 March 2015 - 11:50 PM

You do know they're there to work right?

Retail is a truly thankless job. If you can't sympathize with them, you shouldn't be allowed to shop B&M.