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#14400897 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 04 June 2021 - 12:05 AM

Let's set value aside and look at why it's just not a good Humble Monthly bundle:

 

1. I own the headliner. Automatic disqualification for "good status" -- indisputable.

2. Headliner is from 2016. For context: (other games released in 2016 include Titanfall 2, Overwatch, XCOM 2)

3. It's already been in a Humble Monthly (with two add-ons) ... over three years ago.

4. Two problematic multiplayer games

5. A visual novel (YMMV)

6. Some pixel graphics games

7. A GOG ONLY GAME (this probably deserves to be higher)

 

If you look at it as a Civ bundle, that means you're a Civ fan and you're excited to get more DLC for cheap, The other stuff is gravy on top.

 

As a Humble Monthly though? It's really disappointing. There are so many things not to like about it and only a few ok-looking games to make up for it. For $12... hell no. I passed on it for $8. But I'm not a huge Civ fan and I played it enough a few years ago.




#14400543 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 02 June 2021 - 02:30 AM

Other than Civ 6 this is basically a Fanatical-tier bundle.

I dunno... I actually bought a Fanatical bundle this month.




#14400496 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 01 June 2021 - 10:43 PM

Highlight of bundle:

 

"Some DLC for an old Civ game" -some people in this thread

 

Spoiler




#14399937 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 29 May 2021 - 12:06 AM

Is Samorost 1 free?




#14395210 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 05 May 2021 - 11:35 PM

Hamble repents, brings back the charity sliders.

 

https://blog.humbleb...bundle-sliders/

leaves door open to take them away again when no one is looking




#14395063 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 05 May 2021 - 03:00 AM

Yet another month filled with IGN garba....

 

Nah, I like it.




#14395061 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 05 May 2021 - 02:57 AM

I thought it lost its way with IV but maybe mine is a minority opinion.  If it is, I get to disparagingly compare your tastes to McDonalds and Taylor Swift, so I have that going for me.  I assume V will try to be more extreme so I'm not optimistic that it'll be a return to form.

 

I never bothered with Gat out of Hell (purchased during the great GameStop glitch)

Yeah, I didn't enjoy IV as much as I thought I would. On paper, having super powers in the SR world sounds like fun. it was just too much, too soon, and the whole game felt like cheat-mode to me.




#14394497 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 02 May 2021 - 03:50 AM

Saints Row: The Third - Remastered is coming to Steam on May 22nd:

https://www.pcgamesn...the-third/steam

I had a great time with that game when it came out, and the enhanced edition sure does seem to have a number of improvements. Despite all that, I don't think I have any desire to play it again. It's a pretty lengthy game if you like to complete everything and there are plenty of new games in the open world genre now.

 

Not to mention... that price. Yeow.




#14392900 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 24 April 2021 - 03:35 AM

I've owned Lego Batman 3 on several platforms over the years, and I can never get past the second world.  It is exhausting to play, extremely linear, and not fun at all.  I've heard that Lego DC Super-Villains is a lot more open-world game.

 

So...I'm still deciding whether or not to bite.

 

Marvel and DC Super-Villains were some of my favorite LEGO games. When I say Marvel, I mean any of the games in that realm. Both have open world hubs that are pretty large with lots to do in them. Fun side note: Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy voice Joker and Batman, which is great.

 

 

I tried one of the Lego Lord of the Rings games they gave away for free on Humble... seemed pretty boring.

I love LEGO games but I had a hard time finishing that one. I agree.




#14389680 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 07 April 2021 - 12:58 AM

Got offered $4 off... no thanks. I don't know why I get my hopes up that this while finally be the month that it is good again.




#14388400 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 01 April 2021 - 02:38 AM

I feel like the complaints about included dlc lost a lot of their validity with the switch to humble choice. You don't need to pre-purchase anymore and there's no guessing as to what is included. You just wait until it's released and see what is given. Then decide if you want to buy it or not... I mean you've even got a full month to listen to other people tell you what is included if you're on the fence.

Also, I can't remember the last time humble included DLC without explicitly calling it out like a bonus. In this case people jumped the gun by analyzing what was available in the steam store before the humble offer was active, and were then disappointed/angry when it changed

 

I feel like you may be missing the nuance in my complaint. I don't EXPECT bundled games to come with all the DLC. That's been common practice for quite a while now. Everyone knows that, so pointing it out isn't helpful.

 

I was not happy with the way one product was advertised and another was sold.

 

Calling it "jumping the gun" to look at the advertisement and the game being advertised is utterly ridiculous. How can you justify placing the blame on the consumer that sees the advertised item, looks at the item on the hosting storefront, takes no action to decline... only to discover it has changed and you have been charged.

 

Let's hope they noticed, right? Let's hope that when they redeem the game as "Ultimate Edition" they just somehow know and are okay with that, right? Go read the Steam forums where people are wondering where the DLC is.

 

I was lucky. I noticed the conversation here and unsubscribed. HAD I NOT UNSUBSCRIBED AT THAT POINT I WOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED AUTOMATICALLY FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT AS ADVERTISED. Do you not understand that?

-Email comes out.

-Person looks at games in bundle

-Person is autocharged

 

Whoops, game changed.

 

I personally don't give a flying Fuck since I unsubscribed based on information I found here and on Steam DB. You say that everyone has a full month to decide, but how about those that decided right then and there that they wanted the bundle and permitted the autocharge? Should someone be required to keep checking in daily to see if the agreement changed? Should you be required to spend the month talking to people about it in case they had news?

 

That's silly.

 

My second complaint is not so much about Humble's handling of this situation as it is a complaint about the practice of (not) marking down DLC. All too often a publisher will discount an "ultimate" edition and not the DLC. meaning bundles potentially present a dead end or at least a very expensive pathway towards owning the complete content.

 

If everyone is upfront about it -- cool. I can make a decision. If we get into chopping content specifically to troll bundle buyers, well then I reserve the right to complain. It certainly isn't the end of the world, but it's worth a post or two on the internet to get it off my chest.


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#14387480 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 29 March 2021 - 01:21 AM

Can somebody explain to me why everyone feels the need to own the DLC for a game you haven't played yet, and thus don't know if you even like yet?

 

Don't get me wrong, I would certainly prefer for a game to come with all the DLC in a bundle - it's better value - but I'm also struggling to see how including the base game with 11 other games at a price that is basically in-line (at worst) with the lowest sale price of that single game is poor value or "shenanigans".

 

I don't know, it's just weird to me that this optional content that you may not even want to play is the dealbreaker here.

When they announced the bundle, only the Ultimate Edition existed. At that point, I started reading about the game and saw the DLCs were actually significant. Then someone discovered that new App IDs were created for the DLC, which was still not even available separately or even announced on the store page. Early Humble keys even activated as Control Ultimate Edition -- but no DLC was included.

 

I have no problem getting base games if the DLC is of no interest to me. Tomb Raider was one of the headliners and I didn't care about the cosmetic bullshit and a handful of 10 minute tombs. I bought that, happily. 

 

If a publisher is gonna pull this kind of thing, it seems highly likely that they're going to hold the DLC hostage at a high price for a good while. So when I play the game, I'm not really wanting to wait a couple of years to finish it, and I'm certainly not okay with paying full price to do so while the "ultimate" gets marked down during every sale.




#14387295 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 28 March 2021 - 04:44 AM

 

Since Humble and/or dev's & pub's seems to be giving out Incomplete Editions in Bundles of late, probably so they can try to up-sell you to expansions and/or Season Passes in sales like this...

 

Control's DLC's are on sale on Humble.

 

1. Control: Season Pass = $7.49 (No HC Discount) / $6.37 (with HC discount)

  • This Season Pass includes The Foundation DLC (Expansion 1) and also AWE DLC (Expansion 2).
  • You can pick b/t either Steam or Epic versions.

2. Buying The Foundation and/or AWE DLC separately for Control.

  • If you need to go in separately to buy DLC's for some reason...
  • Each DLC by themselves is $4.24 (with discount) or $4.99 (no discount) each.
  • And you pick b/t which version (either Epic or Steam).

 

Yeah, Fuck all that. I skipped the Monthly Choice because they took a complete game and broke it up into parts to sell separately.

 

I understand the game all the publishers/bundlers play of selling the base and trying to reel you in for the DLC. Somehow, to me, that's fine if you want to structure your title that way from the beginning. But it rubs me the wrong way when they partner with a bundle and then start chopping.

 

They're entitled to do what they want and I am entitled to wait until their complete game is on sale for dirt cheap. Or I'll skip it. Not too bothered.

 

And then it sticks in the back of my head that somehow Humble is getting worse and worse under their new IGN overlords. And now they're in the business of selling me chunks of games through different channels. I'm probably making that up, but I don't care.




#14385671 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 21 March 2021 - 02:57 AM

It still amazes me we can literally commit genocides in games but tiddies are TOO FAR.... 

They were very specific in saying that the problem was that the sex featured actual people instead of animated ones. I guess that opens them up to a liability they aren't willing to indulge.I can imagine how that might be abused and would be incredibly difficult to monitor. Imagine a minor or someone who did not consent being depicted in a game hosted by Steam, It sure seems like something that could happen.

 

I don't personally care for the sex games that are on Steam because they tend to be dumb or make me feel creepy. I don't have any problem with them being there though. And given that I just wrote a big endorsement of Red Dead Redemption 2, I clearly don't mind games with sexual themes or violence.

 

I think it's just about that liability.




#14385578 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 20 March 2021 - 04:34 PM

That said, I did not particularly enjoy the game. I hated nearly all the characters and I didn't think anything about the gameplay was engaging or fun--essentially like every other Rockstar game in that respect. It was the ultimate slog and at best I may have had fun for about 5 of the 80 hours I spent seeing it through to the bitter end. I took so many extended breaks from the game it took me over 2 years to beat. But it was those random moments that kept me coming back. The atmosphere the game creates when riding into a new town at night with the fog rolling in and the glow of the lanterns and suddenly your horse takes a shit. It's like magic.

That's interesting, in that Rockstar games don't usually hold my interest very long. Maybe the atmosphere was enough to reel me in. I am a big fan of the American West though, so that may have some influence.

 

In particular, I found some of the setpieces to be really unique. Perhaps if I'd tried harder to like some of their other games I'd have found similar scenarios. To give some examples: going to a saloon with Lenny, getting smashed -- losing Lenny in my drunkenness -- and winding up in a big bar room brawl was something I can safely say that I've never done in a videogame. An old-fashioned train robbery. Hunting a cougar by lantern light in a dark cave in the mountains. And, like you said, the random encounters.

 

I get what you're saying, though, about their games. This one just worked for me.