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#14389680 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 07 April 2021 - 12:58 AM

Got offered $4 off... no thanks. I don't know why I get my hopes up that this while finally be the month that it is good again.

#14388400 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 01 April 2021 - 02:38 AM

I feel like the complaints about included dlc lost a lot of their validity with the switch to humble choice. You don't need to pre-purchase anymore and there's no guessing as to what is included. You just wait until it's released and see what is given. Then decide if you want to buy it or not... I mean you've even got a full month to listen to other people tell you what is included if you're on the fence.

Also, I can't remember the last time humble included DLC without explicitly calling it out like a bonus. In this case people jumped the gun by analyzing what was available in the steam store before the humble offer was active, and were then disappointed/angry when it changed


I feel like you may be missing the nuance in my complaint. I don't EXPECT bundled games to come with all the DLC. That's been common practice for quite a while now. Everyone knows that, so pointing it out isn't helpful.


I was not happy with the way one product was advertised and another was sold.


Calling it "jumping the gun" to look at the advertisement and the game being advertised is utterly ridiculous. How can you justify placing the blame on the consumer that sees the advertised item, looks at the item on the hosting storefront, takes no action to decline... only to discover it has changed and you have been charged.


Let's hope they noticed, right? Let's hope that when they redeem the game as "Ultimate Edition" they just somehow know and are okay with that, right? Go read the Steam forums where people are wondering where the DLC is.


I was lucky. I noticed the conversation here and unsubscribed. HAD I NOT UNSUBSCRIBED AT THAT POINT I WOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED AUTOMATICALLY FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT AS ADVERTISED. Do you not understand that?

-Email comes out.

-Person looks at games in bundle

-Person is autocharged


Whoops, game changed.


I personally don't give a flying Fuck since I unsubscribed based on information I found here and on Steam DB. You say that everyone has a full month to decide, but how about those that decided right then and there that they wanted the bundle and permitted the autocharge? Should someone be required to keep checking in daily to see if the agreement changed? Should you be required to spend the month talking to people about it in case they had news?


That's silly.


My second complaint is not so much about Humble's handling of this situation as it is a complaint about the practice of (not) marking down DLC. All too often a publisher will discount an "ultimate" edition and not the DLC. meaning bundles potentially present a dead end or at least a very expensive pathway towards owning the complete content.


If everyone is upfront about it -- cool. I can make a decision. If we get into chopping content specifically to troll bundle buyers, well then I reserve the right to complain. It certainly isn't the end of the world, but it's worth a post or two on the internet to get it off my chest.

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#14387480 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 29 March 2021 - 01:21 AM

Can somebody explain to me why everyone feels the need to own the DLC for a game you haven't played yet, and thus don't know if you even like yet?


Don't get me wrong, I would certainly prefer for a game to come with all the DLC in a bundle - it's better value - but I'm also struggling to see how including the base game with 11 other games at a price that is basically in-line (at worst) with the lowest sale price of that single game is poor value or "shenanigans".


I don't know, it's just weird to me that this optional content that you may not even want to play is the dealbreaker here.

When they announced the bundle, only the Ultimate Edition existed. At that point, I started reading about the game and saw the DLCs were actually significant. Then someone discovered that new App IDs were created for the DLC, which was still not even available separately or even announced on the store page. Early Humble keys even activated as Control Ultimate Edition -- but no DLC was included.


I have no problem getting base games if the DLC is of no interest to me. Tomb Raider was one of the headliners and I didn't care about the cosmetic bullshit and a handful of 10 minute tombs. I bought that, happily. 


If a publisher is gonna pull this kind of thing, it seems highly likely that they're going to hold the DLC hostage at a high price for a good while. So when I play the game, I'm not really wanting to wait a couple of years to finish it, and I'm certainly not okay with paying full price to do so while the "ultimate" gets marked down during every sale.

#14387295 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 28 March 2021 - 04:44 AM


Since Humble and/or dev's & pub's seems to be giving out Incomplete Editions in Bundles of late, probably so they can try to up-sell you to expansions and/or Season Passes in sales like this...


Control's DLC's are on sale on Humble.


1. Control: Season Pass = $7.49 (No HC Discount) / $6.37 (with HC discount)

  • This Season Pass includes The Foundation DLC (Expansion 1) and also AWE DLC (Expansion 2).
  • You can pick b/t either Steam or Epic versions.

2. Buying The Foundation and/or AWE DLC separately for Control.

  • If you need to go in separately to buy DLC's for some reason...
  • Each DLC by themselves is $4.24 (with discount) or $4.99 (no discount) each.
  • And you pick b/t which version (either Epic or Steam).


Yeah, Fuck all that. I skipped the Monthly Choice because they took a complete game and broke it up into parts to sell separately.


I understand the game all the publishers/bundlers play of selling the base and trying to reel you in for the DLC. Somehow, to me, that's fine if you want to structure your title that way from the beginning. But it rubs me the wrong way when they partner with a bundle and then start chopping.


They're entitled to do what they want and I am entitled to wait until their complete game is on sale for dirt cheap. Or I'll skip it. Not too bothered.


And then it sticks in the back of my head that somehow Humble is getting worse and worse under their new IGN overlords. And now they're in the business of selling me chunks of games through different channels. I'm probably making that up, but I don't care.

#14385671 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 21 March 2021 - 02:57 AM

It still amazes me we can literally commit genocides in games but tiddies are TOO FAR.... 

They were very specific in saying that the problem was that the sex featured actual people instead of animated ones. I guess that opens them up to a liability they aren't willing to indulge.I can imagine how that might be abused and would be incredibly difficult to monitor. Imagine a minor or someone who did not consent being depicted in a game hosted by Steam, It sure seems like something that could happen.


I don't personally care for the sex games that are on Steam because they tend to be dumb or make me feel creepy. I don't have any problem with them being there though. And given that I just wrote a big endorsement of Red Dead Redemption 2, I clearly don't mind games with sexual themes or violence.


I think it's just about that liability.

#14385578 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 20 March 2021 - 04:34 PM

That said, I did not particularly enjoy the game. I hated nearly all the characters and I didn't think anything about the gameplay was engaging or fun--essentially like every other Rockstar game in that respect. It was the ultimate slog and at best I may have had fun for about 5 of the 80 hours I spent seeing it through to the bitter end. I took so many extended breaks from the game it took me over 2 years to beat. But it was those random moments that kept me coming back. The atmosphere the game creates when riding into a new town at night with the fog rolling in and the glow of the lanterns and suddenly your horse takes a shit. It's like magic.

That's interesting, in that Rockstar games don't usually hold my interest very long. Maybe the atmosphere was enough to reel me in. I am a big fan of the American West though, so that may have some influence.


In particular, I found some of the setpieces to be really unique. Perhaps if I'd tried harder to like some of their other games I'd have found similar scenarios. To give some examples: going to a saloon with Lenny, getting smashed -- losing Lenny in my drunkenness -- and winding up in a big bar room brawl was something I can safely say that I've never done in a videogame. An old-fashioned train robbery. Hunting a cougar by lantern light in a dark cave in the mountains. And, like you said, the random encounters.


I get what you're saying, though, about their games. This one just worked for me.

#14385490 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 19 March 2021 - 11:13 PM

I've been playing Red Dead Redemption 2 (not online). It's really good.


Yeah, water is wet, right? But I noticed 41 of my Steam friends still have it in their wishlist. I know it hasn't been in a huge sale yet, but it's definitely fakeybro material.


First of all, it's beautiful. There's a cinematic mode and lots of photo options, so you know they were proud of how it looks. But it's also a beautifully crafted world. Bethesda should take note.


I'm only halfway through, but the story has some great moments and the characters are memorable. I find myself doing sidequests, not because they are wildly unpredictable and engaging, but because I like the fellow outlaws I hang with. Train robberies, house break-ins, stealing moonshine and then selling it back to (very indignant) people I stole it from. It's fun.


The open world lets you get lost for a while. Hunting, fishing, exploring. You can pretty much do what you like until you're ready to advance the story. The nice part is, though, that you don't feel like you have to grind. You can craft or buy many things. You get experience from just doing the things you're already doing.


If you've been on the fence about the game, and are the least bit interested in the American west,,, or just criminal activity, in general, consider it when the next sale rolls around.


Oh yes, and the random encounters (of which there are many) are really surprising and very entertaining.


#14384773 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 16 March 2021 - 11:41 PM

So, what do you guys all suggest for RPG's? What do you like the best out of these?

There's a lot of very different games in that list. If you are into turn-based games with that good old D&D feel to them, then Pillars is very good. I played through that one and it's expansions and went right on into Pillars 2. That's a lot of RPG.


One I didn't see on your list was D:OS2. I know you started the first, and I'm guessing it didn't grab you since you didn't stick with it, but the second is so much better imo. It's a really remarkable game. I know I've talked about it before, but I just had a lot of fun with that game because of the variety, the lore, and the breadth of possible ways to approach any given situation. It should be on anyone's short list.

#14382199 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 05 March 2021 - 01:09 AM

Newegg has the Curve Digital Bundle that includes Steam keys for Bomber Crew, For The King, and Human Fall Flat on sale for $1.99.



OR: 4 interest-free payments of $0.50

#14381020 Fanatical Thread

Posted by hal on 28 February 2021 - 12:58 AM

I've got all the major launchers, I guess. If someone is giving away a game on one of those I get it.


I mean, I'm not jumping through any hoops for them, but if I just have to click a button, why not?


I honestly don't think I've actually played a game on another platform though.

#14379997 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 25 February 2021 - 12:37 AM

This has been bundled and on sale plenty before, but I feel the need to say, "If you are even remotely interested in tactics, you should check out Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun."


It's on sale on Steam right now for 90% off. It's $3.99. Three freaking ninety nine.


If the word "tactics" sounds a little dry, don't be put off. That's in there basically to give a little thoughtfulness to the stealth elements required to take on a rebellion in Edo-period Japan with a small team of assassins. It's a long and beautiful game that moves at your speed.


Easily one of my favorite games of the last ten years.

#14379738 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 24 February 2021 - 01:52 AM



+ this SteamDB listing seems to indicate this will be the base game. Can only assume they'll add an option to upgrade to the Ultimate Edition next week.

Yep, and just a couple of hours ago they added the DLC AppIDs for Awe and The Foundation.


That's pretty shitty to make changes like that and not be forthcoming about it. I know it doesn't claim that it's the ultimate edition, but seeing as how that's the only version offered on Steam at the time of advertisement... what would anyone expect?

#14377659 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 14 February 2021 - 11:03 PM

So now that I have super-bundle of BL3 I'm sort of overwhelmed at the prospect of starting given all the content.  Anyone recommend a character?  I'm thinking FL4K or Moze.

I've maxed them all and they are all viable in singleplayer. I would say just choose the one that you like the best as the game is not particularly difficult. Flak may be a little easier to play alone since you can have one of your pets revive you if you go down. But they're all good.


If you're one to worry about the meta - don't. The best guns and builds are constantly changing due to additions and changes.


As far as the DLC goes... I'm not sure I'd even bother with it until you've completed the main story and are ready to start in True Vault Hunter mode. The first three are all self-contained and the fourth (Krieg) is a continuation of an event in the main story and is better-played once it is complete. Plus, there is some good loot in the DLC and you'd probably rather have that at higher level anyways. 

#14374073 Humble Bundle Thread

Posted by hal on 29 January 2021 - 01:53 AM

PSA: Tomorrow is auto-charge day for Humble Choice subscribers, 


Definitely not in for $12. Might stick around for $8.

#14370351 Steam+ Deals Mega Thread (All PC Gaming Deals)

Posted by hal on 17 January 2021 - 05:40 AM



* Ovechkin's jersey number

Managed to grab that -- looks interesting... thanks!