A Sensible Way To Help Africa

CTLesq

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The Copenhagen Solution


771 words
8 June 2005
The Wall Street Journal
A14
English
(Copyright (c) 2005, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)
We're not sure what motivated Tony Blair's visit yesterday to the White House; he came to town with a losing hand -- and played it. The British Prime Minister wants President Bush to commit the U.S. to billions in debt relief to the world's poorest countries through a mechanism called the International Finance Facility, which the Administration rightfully considers a nonstarter. Mr. Blair also wants the U.S. to sign on to his views on global warming. This is tilting at windmills in more ways than the Prime Minister may realize.

Instead, what Mr. Blair mainly got was a commitment from the Administration to release another $674 million in humanitarian relief -- most of it food aid -- for Africa, above the $3.2 billion per year it already provides. This is not nothing. By one estimate, the additional money will help feed 14 million people at risk of starvation in East Africa for a year. But if Messrs. Bush and Blair are to avoid falling out publicly at next month's G-8 Summit in Gleneagles, Scotland, they will need to do more than split their differences. A better approach to thinking about development is required.

Fortunately one exists, called the Copenhagen Consensus. The brainchild of Danish statistician Bjorn Lomborg, the Consensus is an attempt by leading economists (including three Nobelists) to set priorities for spending on development using traditional cost-benefit analysis. "We need to know what we should do first," says Mr. Lomborg. "Not being willing to prioritize does not make the problem go away: It simply becomes less clear -- and, most likely, more expensive to solve in the end."

To that end, Mr. Lomborg and his colleagues looked at more than a dozen development challenges, ranging from malnutrition to water sanitation to migration to climate change. The results: Development dollars are best spent on the control of HIV-AIDS, principally through condom distribution and information efforts, followed by providing micronutrients (vitamin and mineral pills) to the malnourished, lowering barriers to trade, and controlling malaria. Taking action in these areas, the authors believe, could do the most good for the greatest number of people in the shortest span of time.

By contrast, the three projects the Consensus put at the bottom of the list all had to do with the threat (which the Consensus considers serious) of global warming. Adopting the Kyoto Protocol to curb carbon dioxide emissions, for instance, might reduce warming to 6.1 degrees Centigrade by the year 2300, compared with an anticipated 7.3 degree warming if nothing is done. This "achievement" -- a world that is on average 1.2 degrees cooler than it otherwise would be in 300 years -- comes with a price tag of about $94 trillion (in 1990 dollars).

"The benefits [of tackling climate change] are far into the future and the substantial costs are up front and immediate," notes Nobel Prize-winning economist Douglass North. "Given the uncertainties associated with both the projections and the consequences, climate change cannot compete with the other urgent issues we confront."

To some, of course, the very act of making a list of global priorities may seem invidious: Should we not do everything? As Mr. Lomborg acknowledges, in a perfect world we would.

But the world is not perfect, and the financial resources available for any such project are not infinite. Mr. Blair wants to see the annual development budget of the richest countries boosted to about 0.7% of GDP. We have our doubts on that score -- what the developing world needs is better governance, not aid.

But if it is to be done, then the world's would-be benefactors have a responsibility to think through the consequences of how their taxpayers' money is spent. Devoting limited financial resources to a problem that's a few centuries off is both wasteful and unethical when there are lives to be saved now. When the President goes to Gleneagles next month, we hope he takes the spirit of Copenhagen with him.

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How to Spend $50 Billion

Most effective ways to help the world's poor.

Very Good

-- Control of HIV/AIDS
-- Providing micronutrients
-- Trade liberalization
-- Control of malaria

Good

-- New agricultural technologies
-- Small-scale water technology
-- Community-managed water supply and sanitation
-- Research on water productivity in food production
-- Lowering the cost of starting a new business

Fair

-- Lowering barriers to migration for skilled workers
-- Improving infant and child nutrition
-- Reducing the prevalence of low birth weight
-- Scaled-up basic health services

Bad

-- Guest-worker programs for the unskilled
-- Kyoto Protocol/carbon taxes

Source: Copenhagen Consensus
 
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How to Spend $50 Billion

Most effective ways to help the world's poor.

Very Good

-- Control of HIV/AIDS
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Too bad someone enacted a Global Gag Rule, which prevents the U.S. from giving aid to international groups that use their own private funds to provide abortions or speak out about the issue of abortion. What a fucking joke.

http://www.planetwire.org/details/1146

Its interesting how, in relation to developing nations family planning programs, here in the USA, we seem to be moving backwards.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']Too bad someone enacted a Global Gag Rule, which prevents the U.S. from giving aid to international groups that use their own private funds to provide abortions or speak out about the issue of abortion. What a fucking joke.

http://www.planetwire.org/details/1146

Its interesting how, in relation to developing nations family planning programs, we seem to be moving backwards here in the USA.[/QUOTE]

I appreciate you substantively addressing the article and avoiding the opportunity to attack the Bush administration who were mentioned only to put the article in context.
 
It's not bad, I disagree that total trade liberalization is anything but harmful (you need to allow trade while also having strong regulations and infrastructure in place, as the developed world has), I'd also bump up some of the "fairs".

Though, as for the kyoto protocol, it's designed to help the environment, it does sometimes help people but that's not the primary goal. You can't lose sight of one problem when trying to fix another.

Bush's plan is just a bandaid, it helps but it's not a long term solution (and his position on condoms and AID's is a wrecking ball through africas future). I do like blair's though, from what I've seen of it.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Though, as for the kyoto protocol, it's designed to help the environment, it does sometimes help people but that's not the primary goal. You can't lose sight of one problem when trying to fix another.[/quote]

From the article:

This "achievement" -- a world that is on average 1.2 degrees cooler than it otherwise would be in 300 years -- comes with a price tag of about $94 trillion (in 1990 dollars).

You really think thats worth the cost?

[quote name='alonzomourning23']Bush's plan is just a bandaid, it helps but it's not a long term solution (and his position on condoms and AID's is a wrecking ball through africas future). I do like blair's though, from what I've seen of it.[/QUOTE]

What are their [Bush & Blair] respective plans?
 
[quote name='CTLesq']From the article:

This "achievement" -- a world that is on average 1.2 degrees cooler than it otherwise would be in 300 years -- comes with a price tag of about $94 trillion (in 1990 dollars).

You really think thats worth the cost?



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that would assume that no other benefit is derived from such an achievement which , I believe, is incorrect.

There would benefits of less pollution-->less particulates-->less $$ spent on respiratory disease for example.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']Too bad someone enacted a Global Gag Rule, which prevents the U.S. from giving aid to international groups that use their own private funds to provide abortions or speak out about the issue of abortion. What a fucking joke.

http://www.planetwire.org/details/1146

Its interesting how, in relation to developing nations family planning programs, here in the USA, we seem to be moving backwards.[/QUOTE]
This isn't the only thing we're moving backwards in.

Stem cell research springs to mind as the best example. Look at what other countries have accomplished. Then, look at what we haven't.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']From the article:

This "achievement" -- a world that is on average 1.2 degrees cooler than it otherwise would be in 300 years -- comes with a price tag of about $94 trillion (in 1990 dollars).

You really think thats worth the cost? [/quote]

It has other effects than that just the direct effect, and it's not just 1.2 degrees.


http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/pages/arctic2.html

Scientists have been estimating past temperatures from cores in the Greenland ice cap, pollen layers in ancient lakes, and tree ring coring. These records indicate that the current temperature is the highest it has been in 400 years. As in Antarctica, the greatest temperature changes occur during the winter months, which are as much as 6° C warmer than they were 30 years ago.



A rise in Arctic temperatures may sound like good news for some farmers and residents of northern latitudes, but overall its effects are ominous. Forest fires and insect attacks are plaguing the boreal forests that ring the Arctic, cover 11 percent of the planet's surface and comprise one third of the world's forests. At the same time, the boreal forest and its associated shrub population are starting to migrate north, overtaking the native tundra. Glaciers in Alaska and elsewhere are shrinking, and at the same time snowfall over much of the Arctic is increasing. Permafrost is freezing less often in winter and thus thawing more deeply in summer, damaging forests and manmade structures and allowing rivers to erode vast areas along the Arctic Ocean shore.



These drastic changes are affecting native species - and the people who call the Arctic their home. Polar bears cannot reach their denning spots or their prey. Caribou's habitual feeding locations are changing. Researchers can now measure changed and earlier growth of tundra plants. Native Alaskans have reported adverse shifts in ice and in the permafrost underlying their communities. Perhaps most threatening, dying forests and thawing permafrost are beginning to pump a huge flux of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere in a region that once served as a carbon absorber. This feedback loop could combine with increased open Arctic Ocean waters to escalate the rate of change.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1109/p01s03-sten.html

Rapid melting of Arctic glaciers, including the vast sheet of ice that covers Greenland. The sheet locks up enough fresh water to raise sea levels by as much as 27 feet over the course of several centuries. The group calculates that during this century, Greenland temperatures are likely to exceed the threshold for triggering the long-term meltdown of the island's ice sheet.
• Arctic temperatures rising up to twice as fast as the global average. Over the past 50 years, average winter temperatures in Alaska, western Canada, and eastern Russia have risen as much as 7 degrees F. Over the next century, temperatures are projected to rise by up to 13 degrees F.

A dramatic reduction in the extent of the summer ice pack in the Arctic Ocean. Late-summer ice coverage already has declined by as much as 20 percent over the past three decades. The summer ice pack is projected to shrink by another 10 to 50 percent by the end of the century. Some climate models show the summer ice vanishing by 2040.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/04/0420_040420_earthday.html

The current rate of warning is unprecedented, however. It is apparently the fastest warming rate in millions of years, suggesting it probably is not a natural occurrence. And most scientists believe the rise in temperatures will in fact accelerate. The United Nations-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reported in 2001 that the average temperature is likely to increase by between 1.4 and 5.8 degrees Celsius (2.5 and 10.4 degrees Fahrenheit) by the year 2100. ....



A recent Nature study suggested that Greenland's ice sheet will begin to melt if the temperature there rises by 3 degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit). That is something many scientists think is likely to happen in another hundred years.

The complete melting of Greenland would raise sea levels by 7 meters (23 feet). But even a partial melting would cause a one-meter (three-foot) rise. Such a rise would have a devastating impact on low-lying island countries, such as the Indian Ocean's Maldives, which would be entirely submerged.

Densely populated areas like the Nile Delta and parts of Bangladesh would become uninhabitable, potentially driving hundreds of millions of people from their land.

A one-meter sea level rise would wreak particular havoc on the Gulf Coast and eastern seaboard of the United States. "No one will be free from this," said Overpeck, whose maps show that every U.S. East Coast city from Boston to Miami would be swamped. A one-meter sea rise in New Orleans, Overpeck said, would mean "no more Mardi Gras."

What are their [Bush & Blair] respective plans?

Bush basically wants to increase the aid given for humanitarian emergencies in the short term, which helps but isn't much of a long term plan. Blair wants to forgive debts to all poor sub saharan african countries, speed up how aid is delivered, increase aid over the long term, massive investment in africa, and strengthening of the african union.
 
94 Trillion. Buy an inhaler.

None of what has been offered in terms of improvements, IMO, is sufficient to justify the loss of 94 Trillion dollars.

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[quote name='CTLesq']94 Trillion. Buy an inhaler.

None of what has been offered in terms of improvements, IMO, is sufficient to justify the loss of 94 Trillion dollars.

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Loss?

Isn't protecting the Earth more important than any economy?

We can't very well go and create ourselves another Earth, after all. We're screwing up the planet, and it seems like keeping it around for future generations is far more important than any other use of money.
 
[quote name='Gothic_Walrus']Loss?

Isn't protecting the Earth more important than any economy? [/quote]

At that cost? No.

[quote name='Gothic_Walrus']We can't very well go and create ourselves another Earth, after all. We're screwing up the planet, and it seems like keeping it around for future generations is far more important than any other use of money.[/QUOTE]

And we are talking about a possible increase in temperatures over a three hundred year period of 1.2 degrees. And no one can guarantee that even if we did EVERYTHING within our power that we could stop it.

So no I am not about to see the world's economy decimated on "science" that may or may be not accurate.

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So no I am not about to see the world's economy decimated on "science" that may or may be not accurate.

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check your math there, slappy.

94 trillion over 300 years by # number countries participating (-any other cost benefits you are ignoring) = not quite the decimation you seem to think.

lol at science in quotes.

I agree that global warming efforts have less immediate and direct effects for Africa but let's be honest about the numbers.
 
Well, why don't we tone down the fanatic "OMGWTF94TRILLION!!1!!1" nonsense. It averages out to less than $300 billion per year; while a significant number (esp. considering that it's attributed to a 15-year old monetary standard), how does that compare with the remainder of our annual budget?

Is every last dime of that $300 billion/year the responsibility of the United States? Well, it fucking shouldn't be; chances are, none of it is, considering the complete disregard the government has for Kyoto. If we account for other countries' annual investments, how much of that is our responsibility (current disregard notwithstanding)?

How does it compare to the increase in health care costs due to greater and greater environmental disregard?

$94 trillion over 300 years? fuckin' whatever.

If you want it that bad, tax the fuck all out of those who pollute.

myke.
...didja hear the one about the white house aide that doctored scientific data to downplay energy's role in global warming? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
I'd like to know where ctl got the 1.2 degrees, though I bet he either doesn't know or won't say (probably both).

though if even some flooding of coastal cities occured due to melting ice, then the economic hit and emergency aid, insurance etc. will be worse (though you wouldn't need to spend rebuilding costs obviously).
 
[quote name='usickenme']check your math there, slappy.

94 trillion over 300 years by # number countries participating (-any other cost benefits you are ignoring) = not quite the decimation you seem to think.[/quote]

That presumes a straight line cost over each year. So you are saying it will require the same cost in the begining to "fight" global warming as in later years. No industry works like that. Run up costs are always considerably higher in the begining than at the end.

Nor can you quantify an economic value to "benefits" that you can't describe.

[quote name='usickenme'] lol at science in quotes.[/quote]

Its just as much a "science" as the "science" of second hand smoke.

[quote name='usickenme']I agree that global warming efforts have less immediate and direct effects for Africa but let's be honest about the numbers.[/QUOTE]

Which was the point of the thread - helping Africa.

[quote name='mykevermin']Well, why don't we tone down the fanatic "OMGWTF94TRILLION!!1!!1" nonsense. It averages out to less than $300 billion per year; [/quote]

See above. I disposed of that faulty analysis.

[quote name='mykevermin']while a significant number (esp. considering that it's attributed to a 15-year old monetary standard), how does that compare with the remainder of our annual budget?[/quote]

What are you talking about "15-year old monetary standard"?

Why should America's budget be the one that takes the hit?

15-year old monetary standardIs every last dime of that $300 billion/year the responsibility of the United States? Well, it fucking shouldn't be; chances are, none of it is, considering the complete disregard the government has for Kyoto. If we account for other countries' annual investments, how much of that is our responsibility (current disregard notwithstanding)?[/quote]

The fact of the matter is the Kyoto Accord would effect Western industrialized nations and not developing nations.

[quote name='mykevermin']How does it compare to the increase in health care costs due to greater and greater environmental disregard?[/quote]

I don't know. You are now saying you can quantify health problems with global warming? Perhaps you could put some real numbers behind that rhetoric?

[quote name='mykevermin'] $94 trillion over 300 years? fuckin' whatever. [/quote]

I guess thats what you do when you don't like facts presented by others?

[quote name='mykevermin'] If you want it that bad, tax the fuck all out of those who pollute.[/quote]

No I don't want it at all.

alonzomourning23: My numbers are from the WSJ editorial. Which certainly have more credibility than: fuckin' whatever.

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[quote name='alonzomourning23']I'd like to know where ctl got the 1.2 degrees, though I bet he either doesn't know or won't say (probably both).

though if even some flooding of coastal cities occured due to melting ice, then the economic hit and emergency aid, insurance etc. will be worse (though you wouldn't need to spend rebuilding costs obviously).[/QUOTE]


Watch the Penn and Teller Bullshit episode on global warming. It might get your panties in a wad.:booty:
 
[quote name='CTLesq']What are you talking about "15-year old monetary standard"?[/quote]

The article you quoted said that the estimate was in 1990 dollars. 1990 was 15-years ago. Shall I continue?

Why should America's budget be the one that takes the hit?

Where is your theory or data that suggests America would take the hit? If it has anything to do with production, you've answered your question.

The fact of the matter is the Kyoto Accord would effect Western industrialized nations and not developing nations.

Affect. Prove it.

I don't know. You are now saying you can quantify health problems with global warming? Perhaps you could put some real numbers behind that rhetoric?

Let me find an evironmental biologist with excellent path analysis skills. Any takers?

I guess thats what you do when you don't like facts presented by others?

What facts? Jebus H. Crackers, it's not like "fucking whatever" is the only thing I had to say, so why treat it like it was?

Generally speaking, what the fuck does global warming have to do with African Aid? Sure, we need to budget as a government, but even your libertarian ass might agree that there are better ways of budget maintenance than what this proposes. Governments don't make proposals this way: the "we can fund crayons for underprivileged children if we eliminate the space program." It makes no fucking sense. Global warming was either the directed target of elimination by those who designed this method, or, like any environental movement, difficult to quantify in economic cost/benefit analytic terms, and thus regarded as essentially waste, thus it became the target of this proposal's "low priority" axe.

In the end, African Aid is not contingent upon how much, or how little, we spend on fighting global warming. So stop, already.

myke.



No I don't want it at all.

alonzomourning23: My numbers are from the WSJ editorial. Which certainly have more credibility than: fuckin' whatever.

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[quote name='mykevermin']The article you quoted said that the estimate was in 1990 dollars. 1990 was 15-years ago. Shall I continue?[/quote]

I don't have the time to address your other points but I will address this one.

In your attempt to sound smart you plopped a bunch of words together: 15-year old monetary standard.

That implies that there has been a monetary standard in place for 15 years, ie we have been off the gold standard as our monetary policy for 15 years.

In fact, that is not the case. Using 1990 dollars accounts for inflation and is a standard by which you can comprably compare dollars from a given year in the past to years in the future.

Please, and I am not trying to be a dick, not make things more complicated than they need to be in an attempt sound smarter that you are. Because you will end up wrong.

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[quote name='CTLesq']That presumes a straight line cost over each year. So you are saying it will require the same cost in the begining to "fight" global warming as in later years. No industry works like that. Run up costs are always considerably higher in the begining than at the end.[/QUOTE]
But that would mean that you're assuming that the article's authors DIDN'T make that assumption.

Considering that this is the Wall Street Journal and they're one of the biggest financial news sources out there, I'd be willing to bet that their numbers are a hell of a lot more accurate than anything you could come up with, and that they DID make that assumption.
 
[quote name='Gothic_Walrus']But that would mean that you're assuming that the article's authors DIDN'T make that assumption.

Considering that this is the Wall Street Journal and they're one of the biggest financial news sources out there, I'd be willing to bet that their numbers are a hell of a lot more accurate than anything you could come up with, and that they DID factor in the potential for variations in yearly cost.[/QUOTE]

But that wasn't YOUR point.

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[quote name='CTLesq']But that wasn't YOUR point.

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It is now that I've edited my post and made the last sentence what I had originally intended it to be.

It's hard to make a coherent argument when you're being distracted by two dogs demanding food.
 
[quote name='Gothic_Walrus']
It's hard to make a coherent argument when you're being distracted by two dogs demanding food.[/QUOTE]

True dat.

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[quote name='CTLesq']I don't have the time to address your other points but I will address this one.

In your attempt to sound smart you plopped a bunch of words together: 15-year old monetary standard.

That implies that there has been a monetary standard in place for 15 years, ie we have been off the gold standard as our monetary policy for 15 years.

In fact, that is not the case. Using 1990 dollars accounts for inflation and is a standard by which you can comprably compare dollars from a given year in the past to years in the future.

Please, and I am not trying to be a dick, not make things more complicated than they need to be in an attempt sound smarter that you are. Because you will end up wrong.

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Don't blame me for your inability to comprehend; I'll only admit to writing passive sentences far too often. If you don't understand me, blame yourself.

myke.
...good to see that the three or more posts following this one serve as adequate evidence that you "don't have the time to address your other points."
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Don't blame me for your inability to comprehend; I'll only admit to writing passive sentences far too often. If you don't understand me, blame yourself.

myke.
...good to see that the three or more posts following this one serve as adequate evidence that you "don't have the time to address your other points."[/QUOTE]

Dude, any way you cut it you wrote a statement using terminology out of context.

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[quote name='CTLesq']
alonzomourning23: My numbers are from the WSJ editorial. Which certainly have more credibility than: fuckin' whatever.
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Well I provided more than one source and linked to it, and that is the general consensus among scientists in pertaining fields. You just said you got it from the wall street journal (not exactly the place to go for learning about the environment) and gave the finger, not a good defense.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Well I provided more than one source and linked to it, and that is the general consensus among scientists in pertaining fields. You just said you got it from the wall street journal (not exactly the place to go for learning about the environment) and gave the finger, not a good defense.[/QUOTE]

Yes you did provide multiple sources. And I think you would concede that if I wanted I could provide just as many sources to dispute the "science" of global warming.

I posted an editorial from the WSJ. That in and of itself doesn't discredit the article. Which, coincidently was about cost benefit assistance to Africa -economics is a topic the WSJ knows a great deal about.

And so what if your science is right? What is the economic value of it? That was the point of the WSJ article. Did you provide any economic arguments?

Nor did any of your sites say that we could do anything to reverse the trend regardless of how much we spend and destroy our economies!

I can see you would read my comments and think I was making the F-you comment to you - for that I apologize that was for Myke and all his F-U comments in his response to my superbly written orginal comments.

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[quote name='CTLesq']I apologize that was for Myke and all his F-U comments in his response to my superbly written orginal comments.[/QUOTE]

:rofl:

myke.
...again, thanks for simply addressing my "fuckin' whatever" and one bit of polysllabic nonsense, rather than anything else I had to say. You, sir, are regrettably not a winner today.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Yes you did provide multiple sources. And I think you would concede that if I wanted I could provide just as many sources to dispute the "science" of global warming.

I posted an editorial from the WSJ. That in and of itself doesn't discredit the article. Which, coincidently was about cost benefit assistance to Africa -economics is a topic the WSJ knows a great deal about.

And so what if your science is right? What is the economic value of it? That was the point of the WSJ article. Did you provide any economic arguments?

Nor did any of your sites say that we could do anything to reverse the trend regardless of how much we spend and destroy our economies![/QUOTE]

The kyoto protocol is the main way to reverse, or at least slow, the trends (in the sense it's the only one that enough countries support to give it a shot).

But, if my science is right, there's two things. One, not everything is economics, most people think species are worth protection, even if they don't have economic value. But, any destruction caused by rising water levels, flooding etc. would obviously have a massive economic toll, and if the water level rises and slowly covers a city (such as boston), then there's another obvious economic toll. Most things aren't "when A then B", there's many indirect problems that arise. So the ice caps melting isn't merely a problem for other animals, it's a problem for our cities and the land we live on as well.

Though, honestly, I wouldn't expect most editorials in the wsj to be written by environmental scientists, and in things pertaining to the environment I'd trust a scientific magazine (even if it is pop science, such as national geographic, and not an academic journal) over an economic one. Given the immediate economic harm that the kyoto protocol can cause, it's not hard to see why many economists would try to marginalize it.
 
While i agree that we should help out with the Global warming issue, i'm not sure that the fact that temperatures are the highest in 400 years actually means anything. That means that over 400 years ago temperatures were higher (unless they just don't have records that go back more than 400 years) and there sure wasn't anyone polluting the air back then. It could just be a cycle. We should try to control the pollution but i think its necessary evil on the road to the point where our technology can produce clean energy.


Oh, and i think the money we are sending to Africa already is PLENTY. This country is in debt too and not everything is our responsibility.
 
Whether it is part of the warming cycle or not (I can't remember if it's supposed to be getting warmer or colder naturally, though you could look it up on google), the warming is accelerated.

Though, if it wasn't our history of slavery and colonies in africa it wouldn't be in the shape it is now. Sure, we weren't the only ones who used slaves, but we were the only ones to use them in the vast quantity we did. Though, in a u.s. first mode, stability usually results in security and takes away places were terrorist can recruit and train.
 
I am sure you all feel good about yourselves writing about the "science" of global warming while people starve in Africa.

Bono's Next Cause


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13 June 2005
The Wall Street Journal
A12
English
(Copyright (c) 2005, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)
The world's richest nations are patting themselves on the back for agreeing this weekend to erase the debt of the world's poorest, mainly in Africa. The U.S. reached an agreement with Tony Blair but sounded lonely in suggesting that extra money from abroad without improved governance in the poor countries themselves would be all for naught.

As it happens, U.S. worries are playing out in real time. One of Africa's poorest countries, Zimbabwe, is suffering through a brutal forced relocation reminiscent of the Khmer Rouge's "ruralization." Hundreds of thousands of people in and around the capital, Harare, have been evicted from their homes, which are then bulldozed under the order of dictator Robert Mugabe, the poster child for Africa's governance problem.

The United Nations says that in less than four weeks at least 200,000 people have been displaced; other estimates are closer to one million. On one night alone, May 26, more than 10,000 people in a north Harare community called Hatcliffe Extension reportedly lost their homes.

In an open letter passed around by email, the Member of Parliament for Hatcliffe Extension, Trudy Stevenson, described the scene there Thursday morning as thousands more residents awaited eviction: "On vacated stands the building materials [from their dismantled homes] were still piled up or scattered around -- i.e. wooden cabin panels, asbestos roofing, window frames, bricks, poles -- because people are not allowed to take their building materials with them."

At the "detention camp" outside Harare where the residents were being taken, Ms. Stevenson saw people "crowded together in fenced compound. . . . The people are staying in tents, and the tents are right next to each other, not a bit of space in between. . . . The main shock was the small size of the place -- there is no way all the people from Hatcliffe Extension (there are still roughly 6,000-8,000 people staying there) will fit inside that compound, even if they all remain standing!"

Mr. Mugabe is the same leader whose theft of land from white farmers nearly pushed his once-thriving nation into famine. He calls this latest exercise in social engineering "Operation Murambatsvina," or "Drive Out the Rubbish." And it's not only residents who are being shooed away: Street vendors are also banished, even though most Zimbabweans are out of work.

Cleaning up urban blight is not Mr. Mugabe's real objective, however. By sub-Saharan African standards, many of the condemned dwellings were more than adequate. The evictees' crime was living in areas that are increasingly opposed to Mr. Mugabe and his ZANU-PF party, an unacceptable challenge to the man who has misruled Zimbabwe for 25 years. The cash-strapped government also wants to reduce the size of the black market -- the only part of the country's economy that still functions with some efficiency.

None of this is to deny that debt forgiveness for many of Africa's poorest governments is worth doing. Most of these countries haven't been paying interest on their loans anyway, so debt relief recognizes the reality and lets everyone (including the world's development banks) move ahead more honestly.

But if U2's Bono and other celebrities really want to help Africa, they will have to do more than appeal to the West's guilty consciences. They ought to speak candidly about the misgovernment in the poor countries themselves, especially in places like Zimbabwe, where the depredations of Mr. Mugabe have been so frequent and well documented.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']I am sure you all feel good about yourselves writing about the "science" of global warming while people starve in Africa.
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There is more than one problem out there, no sense in just focusing on one.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']There is more than one problem out there, no sense in just focusing on one.[/QUOTE]

And some make more sense in fixing because of their immediacy and value than others.

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