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Hey CAGS,

I’ve got some news I’m both excited and sad to share with you at the same time. I’ll be leaving the Digital Video Games team in Mid-March to join the marketing team for Amazon.com’s Loyalty and Rewards program, Amazon Coins. My boss and I have talked extensively about how to maintain and continue our presence here and across the other communities we’ve created in the past couple of years. To that end I’d like to introduce you to Josh, who take over monitoring, updating, and responding to this thread. Josh will be ramping up over the next couple of weeks, he  will be posting shortly to introduce himself.

Now that the “what’s going on” part of the message is out of the way I want to tell you all how much I love CAG and the posters here. This was the first community I joined when I started this job (anyone still remember that first thread?) and all of you have had a huge hand in shaping how we think about and execute Community Development and Management here at Amazon, which has in turn shaped my career these last two and a half years.

I started to write out a section calling out the regular posters and realized the list would be both overly long and incomplete at the same time. Instead I’d like to thank you all again, you all have my deep and sincere gratitude. I’ll still be around and my gaming accounts aren’t going anywhere so feel free to hit me up anytime you want to chat. I’ll probably still hang out in the thread too :).

Thanks again everyone, let me or Josh know if you have any questions!

The Indie Store has launched!
Amazon.com is launching a storefront dedicated to supporting and promoting PC/Mac/Web-based Indie Games. Our Digital Video Games team is a small group of passionate gamers and we’re all really excited to help Indie developers reach more customers quickly by providing a quick and simple process for bringing their games to market. Additionally we’ll be supporting the Indie Store with a ton of promotions, both at and after launch. Many of these promotions are designed to give the developer the opportunity to maximize their revenue. For example, Amazon is forfeiting all royalties from bundle sales and passing them along directly to the developer, we’ve also created an “Indie Spotlight” program to help customers learn more about the games and developers they love. We view the Indie developers as some of the most creative in the industry and we want to help them continue to create new and innovative experience for customers.

Why we are doing this:

  • Allow customers to discover an entirely new category of games on Amazon.com
  • Help developers reach new customers quickly. Our onboarding process is straightforward and we want to sell every Indie game available
  • We want to leverage our strengths to support and help the developers who are driving forward innovation and creativity in the games industry
General Information

Hi CAGs,
I'll be posting deals we're running on Digital Games (PC/Mac, Free to Play, Sony/Microsoft Points/Subs).

I'm also here to answer questions you might have, get you closer to the developers by hosting Q&As, setting up podcasts, live streaming gameplay etc. If I don't respond to a question you have in thread please send me a PM. These ping my email address and make it more likely that I will see your question and respond more quickly.

Cheers,
Tony


FYI. EA Games sold by Amazon will not activate on Steam.
F.A.Q.S.:

1. Does the game I'm buying from Amazon Activate on Steam/Origin/Uplay? What DRM does the game use?

There are two places to identify DRM on a digital video game detail page:

At the top of the page, below the title:

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In the "Product Description" section:

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2. Note on Electronic Arts Games - For the most part, EA games sold on Amazon do not activate on Steam. Most activate on Origin.

3. Note on DRM with limited activations:

Our Policy



4. Sometimes I'll do giveaways.

5. I work with developers and publishers to get fun (or at least what I think is fun) content to share with you all. Here are some examples:

a. Check out the Pax Gameplay videos here: Xcom: Enemy Unknown I played Xcom with Jake, the Creative Director for the game, a few months before the game came out Also, on this page, check out the Q&A, also a community driven event.

b. Check out the interview on this page: Borderlands 2 we did this interview at E3 with Randy Pitchford this year.

c. We've partnered with the ++GoodGames Podcast to feature many of the games we carry. They talk to the developers about the game development process, how the games are conceptualized and managed, all kinds of fun stuff. I'm working on putting together full link list and will update when I have it.

What else do we sell?

Xbox Live Points and Subscriptions:

1600 Microsoft Live Points
4000 Microsoft Live Points
12 Month XBOX Live Subscription
3 Month XBOX Live Subscription]
12 Month + 1 XBOX Live Subscription

PSN+ Subscriptions and PSN Points:

$20 PSN Points
$50 PSN Points
12 Month PSN+ Subscription
3 Month PSN+ Subscription

We also have a Free-2-Play store supported by our GameConnect technology. Gameconnect allows you to link your Amazon.com account with free-2-play and MMO accounts so that you can buy things like in game currency, premium game time/subscriptions, in game items, etc. on Amazon.com using your Amazon.com payment options and have this content delivered directly into your game.

5. Price Matching notes: Generally we do not match international retailers (GMG, Gamersgate, etc) or physical retailers (Best Buy, Newegg.com, etc.)
To check out the Free-2-Play games we offer you can visit our storefront here: Free-2-Play Store

 
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The End said:
Well this sucks. I dilly dallied about buying this and now the price has gone up.

Is there a list of what games are to be on sale and how long they're supposed to be on sale for? I didn't even realize that this was only a 48 hour deal.
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In this post there's dates and stuff

That pack should be back on sale at $10 from 9/7-9/8

 
1. Is there a way to buy C&C Complete without linking the origin accout?

2. Is Max Payne 3 Complete and LA Noire Complete bundle gonna be on sale? Haven't seen it listed anywhere, but it was available for a short time yesterday at full price.

 
Sepioth said:
I think Amazon has lost it's Steam ... no pun intended :) .. when it comes to these sales now.

Seems Steam has beat them to the punch again .. Aliens: CM is $1 cheaper on Steam.

The sales feel like they are just getting repetitive .. same crap same price .. and this goes for the big Steam sales as well ..

Maybe it just because I have bought everything already :p
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Sadly, it's not just "same crap same price". In quite a few cases, it's same crap higher price compared to say a year ago (i.e desert to sea bundle, 2k bundles).

Don't think I bought anything from amazon since last year! Nor bothered to check this amazon thread in a month! :ziplip:

 
KidInTheHall said:
This sale is such a bummer, tried Chrome and IE and I can't stop getting those blank pages.
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Did you try...

Neuro5i5 said:
Well, I just tried something out in Chrome that is a workaround. If you get a blank page while filtering, just double click on something in the address bar to highlight it (not the entire address, but just one section, like the word 'amazon') and hit Enter, the page will load properly. I'm not savvy enough to know what is wrong or why this works, but I can say, that is one long address and a seemingly lazy way to filter.

Edit: Actually you don't even have to highlight anything. If you just have your cursor in the address bar without the entire address being highlighted and hit Enter, it will still load the page properly.
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(Sale is still kind of a bummer for veterans, however.)

 
Xepos said:
Hi Tony,

Do you know if the Crusader kings 2 Bundle will come at discount?
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I am also interested.

For those of us that only peak in this thread, anymore, these Amazon sales just look like a giant clusterfuck. I love Amazon but their gaming page absolutely sucks. My main grief is their "sales" listings with not even full price, but absurd priced bundles... has it already been on sale? Will it be on sale? Why did the bundle I was interested in suddenly go up X dollars? Did it have a Steam key or not? Etc.

But I love buying books and even MP3 albums on Amazon.
 
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Oh geeze, sorry you guys. Well ask for a refund if you don't want it as DRM free because they have the wrong info up on their page.

 
Motoki said:
Oh geeze, sorry you guys. Well ask for a refund if you don't want it as DRM free because they have the wrong info up on their page.
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Honestly, Amazon should do a much better job of marking what games have what DRM.

Sometimes they mark it right; sometimes they mark it incorrectly.

Sometimes they don't mark the DRM even at all.

 
MysterD said:
Some of EA's older games just don't activate up on Origin. I don't recall ProStreet being one of those.

I never could get my retail copy of ProStreet activated up on Origin.

Same goes for my retail copies of Crysis 1 + Warhead, BTW.

Why not EA Origin's live support and see if they can help you?

That's like rolling the dice on a 50/50 shot that they might get it working or might not. Never know w/ EA Support - but anytime I've bugged them, they've surely tried like Hell.

Another thought - you might wanna try this before bugging EA Origin live support.

Try some of the OLDER EADM/Origin activation links - see if the code works on any of those:

Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Never know, unless you try.

Links:

https://activate.ea.com/activategame.do

https://activate.ea.com/gameactivation.do

https://www.origin.com/us/activate/create
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I have to thank you for these links MysterD - I gave activating a code for Mercenaries from the Amazon bundle (the one with mirror's edge & bulletstorm etc) I bought in January a shot and it actually worked & I now have it in Origin. I had contacted EA a while back & never really got an answer.

 
glennfrank said:
I have to thank you for these links MysterD - I gave activating a code for Mercenaries from the Amazon bundle (the one with mirror's edge & bulletstorm etc) I bought in January a shot and it actually worked & I now have it in Origin. I had contacted EA a while back & never really got an answer.
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You're welcome - and glad to help out. :D

I know in the past, I've had trouble activating game-keys directly via EA Origin client, but they might've actually activated up on the older EADM Classic activation links.

 
MysterD said:
Honestly, Amazon should do a much better job of marking what games have what DRM.

Sometimes they mark it right; sometimes they mark it incorrectly.

Sometimes they don't mark the DRM even at all.
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yea they need to step this up hire mysterd he prollly better than amazon can do heh

 
Is The Secret World worth getting? As I've been wanting a good MMO to munch on in my spare time. Or should I save the 15 bucks for something else?

 
thanks for response, wondering if PC version will be better this time around, DS  seem like it was a afterthought. would love a PC version of DS2 if it well made.

 
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..DS seem like it was a afterthought....
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That's because it literally was. From had no intentions of Dark Souls on PC (because they had no experience) until fans begged, cried, pleaded and petitioned for it. Then they were denounced for a half-assed job by those same people. I'd hope that the experience will help DSII to be better.

 
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Corto Maltese said:
Is The Secret World worth getting? As I've been wanting a good MMO to munch on in my spare time. Or should I save the 15 bucks for something else?
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Depends on what you want out of a MMO & pricing.

TSW ain't necessarily a typical type of MMO either, IMHO.

Pricing:

Not sure if you like EA and all, hehe ;) - but it has been cheaper at $10 before on Origin (before tax). Cheapest it has been is $5.25 on GMG - but that was back when the game still had subscription fees (late last year) and we ain't seen it hit that price again. Probably won't see that price again, at least for a LONG TIME.

About the TSW MMO:

First off: no more sub-fees. :D Yay! :D

In short - overall, I think the game's really good, nowadays...and that it has came a long way since it was in Beta.

And now, details galore, if you want to read that...

So, anyways - TSW is a very story-heavy, character-heavy, dialogue-heavy, & extremely-well voice-acted game. And all of that stuff is absolutely fantastic! Always has been, probably always will be - anytime Ragnar Tornquist is involved, I expect this kind of greatness (i.e. also see The Longest Journey & Dreamfall). Honestly, given that about how great this game is w/ story, voice-acting, character, and all of that stuff - this game could've even been fine as a game to play offline. Most of the time that I do play this online, I seem to be doing quests all by myself. There are quest-types specifically built for multiple players, but I ain't touched any of those yet. Sure, there are solo instanced quests and areas/sections just for yourself alone, as well - and in that area, you'll be the only person on that map and in that instance. TSW has a lot a variety going on w/ its quests and whatnot, to say the least. So you might be doing a quest and be on the huge game-map where tons of players are also doing quests - and just b/c some other players are often usually in the area and b/c of how action-heavy this game is, you'll be helping each other out, whether you intend to or not - so, there's the MMO part put to good use, actually. There's been numerous times I've been on a quest by myself - and b/c players are normally in the area and I'm about to die, the other players in the area they, more or less save my butt - likely b/c they're also trying to grind their character and/or help out other players.

I'll tell you this now - I think the game has came a long way, since TSW Beta. I actually Beta Tested this TSW game before its original release (no NDA's - thanks for the invite back then, Funcom and EA)! Back then, I wasn't super-duper fond of the combat - and only spent around 10 hours with it. And, questing and some things, just didn't feel as varied back then. And the game didn't perform super-duper hot on my PC, back then. A lot of this has changed now. Since I finally bought the TSW game recently (finally!), I've clocked around some 30 hours into this game - and have felt like I've barely even scratched the surface, as I'm only on the 2nd major map (town next to Kingsmouth)! The Game runs much better on my PC (i7 950; 8 GB of RAM; 1 GB of GeForce GTX 560 Ti; Win 7 64-bit) nowadays - i.e. I can run it in w/ more settings turned up and turned on. Questing is often very varied by different types - kill X enemies; defeat X enemies a specific; find X locations; find X people; puzzle quests; stealth style quests; escort quests; etc etc. While the graphics are very detailed in the actual characters models and there's tons of detailed objects in the actual game-world, the characters animations certainly are far from the best around.

Combat has two modes. I don't know if it was in the TSW Beta, but now there is an option Toggle Target Modes (check your control listing; it's the Toggle Target Mode key) - which is where you can switch on the fly b/t Cursor Mode and Crosshair Mode. I don't know if this is explained anywhere in the game manual (for a disc-version) or in any of the online in-game tutorials, but it's not really shown to you when you start the game up and do the combat tutorials. So, here you go - I'll explain! There's your typical WoW style combat - where the cam is locked and you're in Cursor Mode, where your camera is locked and you just move your mouse cursor and click on an enemy and/or target them and just let the game do most of the work. While this is fine for the crowd that don't want to do the aiming (i.e. a more RPG-like crowd), I'd just personally rather do the aiming. For the character I was aiming for - i.e. a gun-slinger that uses shotguns and tosses magic - I didn't care for that cursor mode b/c I wanted to literally aim and shoot at enemies. When I'm literally directly moving most of my characters movements, I want full control - I am used to also playing shooters, where you literally have a crosshair and aim down the sights and literally shoot away. Once I found Target Mode w/ the crosshair for aiming and an unlocked camera - I pretty much began to really like the combat in the game. Also b/c you can pin your Inventory to always appear wherever on the screen (which has became, more or less, a HUGE Hotkey bar for me) - and you can resize this, too; I constantly switch b/t the Target Modes. Usually I use Cursor Mode to use Inventory stuff, click on objects in the gameworld; and flip back to Crosshair mode when in combat to shoot enemies. So, you can have literally the best of both worlds here, depending on your play-style.

You basically take your character - and spec them out how you want. There's no real class restrictions or anything of the sort. More or less, it's an open-class system. Pick what skills and abilities you want to learn and upgrade - and go from there, pretty much. And b/c there's a good deal of trees for skills & abilities - and they ain't super-big trees, either - you likely will wind-up w/ some kind of hybrid character. My character - a mixture of a gun-slinger (especially w/ shotguns) and magic.

So, I think that pretty much sums up a lot of my thoughts on this game. IMHO, I think it's pretty damn good. Up to you what you want to spend on this - since it has been cheaper before and it's also gonna depend on how much of a time-sink you want to make out of this game. If you do actually get this game and actually wind-up liking this - yeah, I can see this game being a major time-sink for you.

EDIT:

I have only 30 hours or so into this game and often still feel like I've only scratched some of the surface of this game and its quests - there's just A LOT to this game. So if there's a lot more variety of quests, quest-types and different areas that I haven't seen yet, I think Idiotekque can probably tell you TONS & TONS more about this game. Even though I think I have said quite a bit about this game here, he can probably say A LOT more about this game.

 
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Neuro5i5 said:
That's because it literally was. From had no intentions of Dark Souls on PC (because they had no experience) until fans begged, cried, pleaded and petitioned for it. Then they were denounced for a half-assed job by those same people. I'd hope that the experience will help DSII to be better.
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Oh geeze, this again?
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Well they could have outsourced you know. They actually did with Ninja the Blade port.

People act like it some hugely unreasonable thing to expect you know, fairly standard things for a PC game in a PC game.

Anyway the community fixed most of the issues in fairly short time which begs the question why they could not or could not find someone who could.

 
Motoki said:
Oh geeze, this again?
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Well they could have outsourced you know. They actually did with Ninja the Blade port.

People act like it some hugely unreasonable thing to expect you know, fairly standard things for a PC game in a PC game.

Anyway the community fixed most of the issues in fairly short time which begs the question why they could not or could not find someone who could.
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Well, it certainly was A LOT cheaper for From Software to, more or less, let the community fix, improve, and mod the game - like Durante did to get the ball going here w/ DSFix. ;)

 
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Corto Maltese said:
Is The Secret World worth getting? As I've been wanting a good MMO to munch on in my spare time. Or should I save the 15 bucks for something else?
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And if you wanna read another massive wall of text, here's my TSW explanation/review that I've posted in the past.


Extremely detailed The Secret World review below:

Best current MMO out there, in my opinion. Incredible combat system, highly talented voice actors, excellent writing, tons of customization, challenging gameplay, and best of all, you're getting what you pay for. No hoops to jump through; you pay once and you never have to pay again (unless you want cosmetics or a couple new mission packs). You also get enough cash shop points through gameplay (after you finish 30 missions, which isn't a whole lot) to buy a mission pack (I believe there are two for sale right now, although issue #5 may come with the game now, I'm not sure). So you're getting free DLC through gameplay.

I'm gonna spoiler the rest of my post into sections... because it's long.

[customspoiler= Crafting/Loot ]The only thing that I think could have been done better in TSW is the crafting. Admittedly, I didn't do a whole lot of it, so I may not be the best judge, but it is a bit boring and complicated. The loot system is also not extremely exciting, since talismans (armor in the game) and weapons are simply _____ Sword, _____ Pendant, etc, with the blank being filled in by a descriptor like "Ruthless" (accuracy and critical boost), or "Stalwart" (defense boost), etc.

There are still different levels and rarity of loot (the typical MMO quality system, white<green<blue<purple), so you'll still get a blue drop and get giddy about it, but it's not like other MMOs where it may have a fancy name and look awesome, since talismans are unseen on your character (weapons are though, and have a variety of different looks, despite having the same name on occasion). The exception to this rule are talismans and weapons you get from some quests, which will have unique names and looks (at least in the icon) and usually fairly good stats.[/customspoiler]

[customspoiler= Customization ]Taking a step back to talismans (armor/accessories) not affecting the appearance of your character, though, this is actually a good thing. Your clothing is totally customizable, and there's a lot of it (including quest reward clothing and cash shop clothing), so you have the ability to use the best equipment while not having to change what you look like, or settling for good armor that is butt ugly (as happens in many MMOs). There is no MMO with a better customization system than TSW besides APB: Reloaded, which is a TPS and hardly of the same genre.

Besides clothing, you can customize your character's face and hair as far as changing their nose, eyes, jaw, etc. You can also change these things later either with in game currency (expensive at first, but later on, not too bad) or cash shop currency (very cheap, about $1-2 a change last I checked).[/customspoiler]

[customspoiler= Setting/Theme ]What really sets TSW apart from other MMOs, though, is the setting. You're a human in the modern world who has been imbued with anima (the power of the Earth), and you choose between three different secret societies who are seeking out people like you to take care of supernatural occurrences around the planet... as well as furthering their own agendas. Gameplay between the three factions is relatively identical, besides storyline missions here and there that pop up both through the progression of the story, and progression of your rank. These missions may take place in the same areas between the factions sometimes, but always come at things from a different angle with a different objective. Other times the missions are totally different between factions and go to some wild places.

All in all, the game is super dreary and mysterious. While a lot of missions don't venture far from your standard MMO mission systems, the little tales and legends and secrets will keep you going. This game is the best modern day, supernatural, whimsical, fantasy game I've ever played. From Lovecraftian themes to fucking Sasquatches, this game does it right. It's not corny/campy, yet it still doesn't take itself so seriously that it is over-serious about such wacky subjects. I wholeheartedly recommend playing as an Illuminati character as well. Your boss in that faction is one of the best characters I've seen in any game in a very long time, and her dialogue adds a lot to the experience.[/customspoiler]

[customspoiler= Leveling System/Abilities ]Lastly, I have to say that the leveling system in this game, while initially confusing, is the best I've ever seen. There is virtually no "overleveling" in the game, and really no grind to speak of (if you have an alright understanding of what you're doing). SWTOR has annoyed me to no end (though I still enjoy it) because you're forced to skip missions (sometimes entire planets) because you'll overlevel if you don't, and upcoming missions will be pathetically easy. This doesn't happen in TSW, let me try to sum up how the system works.
You gain AP and SP through combat and missions. The intervals of experience set to gain AP and SP NEVER changes through the game. This isn't an accurate number, but say you needed 5000 experience to gain an AP at the beginning of the game. At the very end of the game, you'll still need 5000 experience to gain another AP. This creates a totally dynamic, always changing leveling system, where you have complete control over your progression.

AP (ability points) are used to purchase new abilities. There is a wheel that holds abilities for each weapon type (Melee: blades, claws, hammers. Ranged: pistols, assault rifles, shotguns. Magic: blood, chaos, elemental.). In the first level of the wheel, you will be aiming to learn all of the abilities for your weapons (you equip two weapons at a time). Once you do that, you'll have a lot of options, with multiple skill trees all focused towards different combat styles (for the most part).

At this point, you can go in all kinds of directions. As a blade wielder, you may build your tank abilities, or your DPS abilities. As an assault rifle user, you may build your healing/leech abilties, or your DPS/DoT abilities, etc. There's a lot of options here, and since you can have 7 active abilities (attacks, healers, etc) and 7 passive abilities (boosts to certain attacks, etc), you have to pick and choose exactly what works for you. This leads to a lot of unique builds between players. Other MMOs (like SWTOR) feel kinda lazy in this regard, where you can use all of your abilities all the time, and lead to 20-30+ different abilities mapped to tons of different keys... even though you only end up using 10 or so regularly. TSW makes you choose, and adds a much higher level of strategy to combat.

SP decides what level of weapons and talismans you can equip, and also gives you some stat boosts. That said, just because you can equip a high level weapon doesn't mean you're going to blow through enemies. SP also comes much slower than AP, so grinding for it isn't really that appealing. The natural progression of your SP works great as you make your way through the game.[/customspoiler]

I'll try to cut myself off there. I could go on about this game forever... tl;dr, get the game, it's excellent, and better than the rest of the MMOs on the market right now.

 
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See...I knew Idiotekque would give a hell of a lot more of a detailed review, description, and impressions on TSW than I possibly could. :D

@Idiotekque

Dare I even ask - do you know (whether by XFire, Raptr, Steam, or if TSW itself even keeps track, or whatever) how many hours you actually have logged into TSW? ;)

 
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MysterD said:
See...I knew Idiotekque would give a hell of a lot more of a detailed review, description, and impressions on TSW than I possibly could. :D

@Idiotekque

Dare I even ask - do you know (whether by XFire, Raptr, Steam, or if TSW itself even keeps track) how many hours do you have logged into TSW? ;)
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Same one as before, lol.

And I don't have the game on Steam, but I'm sure Steam would track your time if you have it there. I don't use XFire either, but Raptr seems to track your time on EVERYTHING, so one can only imagine.

 
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Idiotekque said:
Same one as before, lol.

And I don't have the game on Steam, but I'm sure Steam would track your time if you have it there. I don't use XFire either, but Raptr seems to track your time on EVERYTHING, so one can only imagine.
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It might be the same review as before - but you have TONS + TONS of more experience w/ this game than I certainly do! I'm only on my 1st character and only 30 hours in. The game certainly feels much BIGGER than what I've played - and there's still a bunch of quests I skipped on the first big map of Kingsmouth and ain't even touched in that 2nd area right next to it!

Yeah, I use Raptr and XFire to time-track a lot of my games - especially if I have a Non-Steam version of a game.

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What's funny - sometimes, there's a game that neither Raptr or XFire even recognize. I'm playing Ghost Recon: Future Soldier. UPlay seems like it only keeps tracks of how long you play a game PER session. I lost count of my hours w/ this game, so far.

 
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MysterD said:
It might be the same review as before - but you have TONS + TONS of more experience w/ this game than I certainly do! I'm only on my 1st character and only 30 hours in. The game certainly feels much BIGGER than what I've played - and there's still a bunch of quests I skipped on the first big map of Kingsmouth and ain't even touched in that 2nd area right next to it!

Yeah, I use Raptr and XFire to time-track a lot of my games - especially if I have a Non-Steam version of a game.

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What's funny - sometimes, there's a game that neither Raptr or XFire even recognize. I'm playing Ghost Recon: Future Soldier. UPlay seems like it only keeps tracks of how long you play a game PER session. I lost count of my hours w/ this game, so far.
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You've played 30 hours without going to the Savage Coast? o_0

 
Are you guys sure Anno 1404 will?  I have it on the gamestop app (uggh really wish I could move it), and i have the product code and everything but it does not activate on uplay.  When I had asked ubi support they said since its an older title it will not activate on there

 
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Corto Maltese said:
Is The Secret World worth getting? As I've been wanting a good MMO to munch on in my spare time. Or should I save the 15 bucks for something else?
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MysterD and Idiotekque really covered everything, but I would recommended checking out a build guide, particularly if you're not already familiar with MMO's. Even if you only follow it for the first 60 AP, it can give you some good ideas. If you don't plan on joining up very often, the solo builds are good.

There are many sites with good builds, I've been using this one:

http://wordpress.tswguides.com/category/tsw-guides/builds/level/my-first-60/

 
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Thanks to the two that covered things up about The Secret World, I am gonna get it. I've read them carefully and I came to the conclusion that this will be quite the trip into an Urban Fantasy MMO. Hmhm

 
deckmeup said:
Sadly, it's not just "same crap same price". In quite a few cases, it's same crap higher price compared to say a year ago (i.e desert to sea bundle, 2k bundles).

Don't think I bought anything from amazon since last year! Nor bothered to check this amazon thread in a month! :ziplip:
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so, you missed the Batman Arkham Origins glitch on Amazon? They had it for 9.99 a week and a half ago. I would've posted it but unfortunately I was doing time in Cag's version of the Asylum.

theemadgamer said:
No between about it, it's exactly ZERO%. Just bought it, offered to download drm free game, yea! NOT!

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Have you tried contacting customer service, maybe they can get you a key.

 
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