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Thanks for quoting camoor so I could see that. Dude...why that guy keeps addressing things to me when I've made it clear he's on my ignore list is too complex for me to comprehend I guess. Honestly, I think most of his comments are just mean spirited and advance nothing, so rather than go back and forth with him, I decided to block him because it's a waste of my time, and clearly he and I just don't like each other, so what's the point of going round and round? Apparently he disagrees.
Anyhoo re:
Really? You mention how young "amerika" is then go on to ramble some bs about young and first time growth in a region that has a history of drawing and redrawing borders, infighting, conflicts etc on thier own for easily over a thousand years. You have it backwards their pal. Either talk about "amerika" being young and in growth or the world being in growth as that is more accurate but don't be so ignorant as to say they are young and in growth. I suggest you open up some history books and maybe take off those lenses that are clouding your vision.
It isn't the first time in the thread you have rambled off this bs and you claim to be some kind of authority on knowledge of growth and selected history which I agree you are an authority but only on your brand of ignorance.
I'm not really sure what point he's trying to call me out on here. Punctuation would make it easier to read, but he's basically trying to compare a geographical region to an autonomous country (the Middle East to the US) if I follow. My point is that of the COUNTRIES in the middle east most of them are younger than 100 years. If you look at the first 100 years of the US, we had a turbulent, violent, coup-laden first century. To thumb our noses at other countries that are going through this is hypocritical, especially when we got to make our own borders, we didn't have borders given to us by the British and French. Combine that with our foreign involvement in these countries, and we're not helping things move along. Between funding and propping up dictators, to manipulation of natural resources, to heavy military alliances that escalate tensions, we're actively playing a role in destabilizing a handful of COUNTRIES.
If we want to compare regions, then rather than looking at America, it would probably make more sense to look back several hundred years ago (Islam started around 1400yrs ago) and look at Western Europe. That was a calm, peaceful, scientifically enlightened territory, right? Err...
So in summary, he's logically incorrect to compare a region to a country, he's obviously blatantly wrong in saying I have the history wrong, as things like the Sykes-Picot agreement, the Balfour Declaration, the American Revolutionary and Civil Wars happened, then he doubted my knowledge of the dynamics, and after posting my reply, I remembered I was actually mentioned by name in a book about conflict and resolution in that very region, so I added that through an edit.
He's asking me to make an argument based on his assumptions, which are almost entirely inaccurate.
"So, since the earth is flat, explain to me where the end of the ocean is, if you think you're an expert on oceanography!"
...Uh...
edit: And doh, I actually thought you were better read on the topic to know at the surface level his assumptions are incorrect and foolish, but maybe I was wrong? I would suspect you've made points against our expansionist policies and meddling in foreign lands, but I have no desire to go through your post history to confirm/deny. Also assumed you have a good knowledge base on world history. You disagree that the countries in the middle east are mostly young, mostly live under colonist's borders, and has constant meddling from outside the region?