Best Buy Trade-in 5.0 - see FAQ in OP!

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Just seemed like a good time for a new thread. You can view the previous thread here!

THIS THREAD OP WILL NOT BE ACTIVELY UPDATED WITH NEW PROMOS - THIS IS PRIMARILY AN FAQ.

All Promotions are available in-store only, and they DO NOT stack!

Only the 10% Bonus from Gamers Club Unlocked will stack with these offers, and it definitely does stack despite what some employees will say.

Please read FAQ below before asking questions!


Flip discussion is allowed on CAG, but begging for list of games to flip is not only obnoxious but doesn't help the community in any way; don't be surprised if some users are only interested in trading information with other users who regularly contribute to the thread.

General video game promotions link: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17093&type=page (Promotions are listed at the bottom of the page)

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BEST BUY'S VIDEO GAMES TRADE-IN PAGE & VALUE ESTIMATOR

Check which BB stores do trade-ins here.
In-store trades may be done in the Gaming Dept or at customer service depending on the store.

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F.A.Q. Best Buy has a short FAQ here.

How does the **% bonus TIV work?
The percentage is based on the final total of your entire trade in, so if the trade in is $100 and there is a 50% bonus your final gift card value will be $150.

How does the 10% Gamers Club Unlocked bonus work?
The 10% bonus for Gamers Club Unlocked members is calculated from the base trade in value. So in the above example, a $100 trade would get an extra $10 with the GCU membership bonus. So if there was a 50% trade in bonus it would be $100 base, $10 Gamers Club Unlocked bonus and $50 TIV bonus for a grand total of $160. 

How do I become a Gamers Club Unlocked member and get the 10% bonus?
Any video game section employee should be able to set you up with the GCU membership (should being the key word). The program has undergone some serious changes in the last couple of months. The program now cost $120  for two years and comes with a subscription of @Gamer magazine until May 2014 (which typically has a couple of great coupons every month). It will also get you a 10% bonus on trade ins, 20% off new games and 10% off of used games (Make sure to point it out to the blue shirt doing your trade-in though as it is easy for them to skip, and they are still new to it). It can take 48 hours (or more) for GCU to show up on your My Best Buy membership. Current GCU members have been upgraded to the new program for no extra charge and should have received a coupon to extend their membership for an additional 2 years at a cost of $30 ($15 a year). Members who had their subscription run out within a couple months of November 2013 will also get this coupon. 

I can't find the pamphlet or barcode to sign up for GCU!

Employees by and large seem ignorant of the program and probably won't be much help so here is what you need to do. There may be pamphlets around various areas of the store and if you can not find that try the touch kiosk. 

I didn't get my 10% bonus or the employee said it doesn't stack, what gives?
As of September 2012 the trade in system at Best Buy was updated, and employees seem to be having a hard time making sure that they add the GCU bonus. It should be added immediately after they scan your games, and before they take your personal information. You also should always try to know your full trade in value with bonuses before going to the store so that if the price is different you can identify it immediately. The 10% bonus definitely does stack with any TIV promo (100%, 50%, it doesn't matter). All the Gamers Club Unlocked pamphlets say so, as does the website, and are a great place to point to if an employee or a manager tells you otherwise.

For a full break down of when and how to help make sure your 10% was applied look in the spoiler.

How to get your 10% bonus

For some reason this is incredibly difficult for employees to get right. Following this process should work, but there is no accounting for the occasional very-bad-at-their-job employee.  

The 10% requires that they add your member information at a very specific point. The best way to describe it is that it must be entered along with your games, as it is on the same page. So immediately after they enter your games, but before navigating to the next page on their computer, the Best Buy employee has to enter your information, typically using your phone number, to find your account. It is on the same page as all of the games and if they are asking for your ID it is too late!  The big problem is that the next page also looking up your member information, but in a brilliant move of programming on Best Buy's part, it will not apply the membership bonus at this stage. An easy way to see if the bonus has been applied is to ask for the trade in total at this point as well, as the 10% (and any other bonuses) would already be applied; so if the numbers are off you know they need to go back a page and enter the information. Otherwise, that being done, it should work just fine.

Things to know/help you make sure the bonus is applied:

  • Always know your trade total, including bonuses, before going in. This will help you catch issues.
  • Hold onto your ID until they ask for it, that way you know that they are on that page. Before handing them the ID is a great time to ask them what the total was if they haven't already told you because you can still catch the issue now. 
  • Be polite and helpful. Try to not get frustrated if they didn't enter the information at first, and politely mention that last time you had this issue the employee had to go back a page. In the event the issue isn't being resolved it never hurts to ask if maybe someone from gaming could help.  MOST employees will be friendly and work with you. 
  • Lastly, be persistent. Some employees will take it personally when you try to help, some will just be difficult because lets face it, retail jobs suck and you're probably the 900th person to ask them for something today. Giving up though not only makes you lose out on the 10% bonus, and the Reward Zone points (as well as credit towards your Elite Plus status), all it does is make sure the employee doesn't know what they are doing for the next customer either.  You paid for the bonus, make sure you get it. 

Do we get MyBestBuy (Reward Zone) points for trade-ins??
Yes. You get one point for every pre-bonus dollar traded in. So if your TIV was $100 before bonuses, you get 100 Reward Zone points. Gamers Club Unlocked members (and possibly standard Gamers Club members) get double points for everything gaming, including trade-ins. So in the same example you would wind up with 200 Reward Zone points. To get Reward Zone points you must have them include your Reward Zone membership information (easiest to look up by phone number) with your trade-in (this is required for the Gamers Club Unlocked bonus anyway).

Can I use my Best Buy gift card to purchase Amazon Kindle Gift Cards or Visa Gift Cards?
Yes, although some employees may not be aware of this and incorrectly refuse to do so. Visa Gift Cards have a $200 limit and a $6 activation fee. Amazon Gift Cards are available in $25, $50 and $100 depending on your store selection. Some states, or even localities (county, city, etc.) may not allow the sale of Amazon Gift Cards. Yes, Kindle Gift Cards are good for anything on Amazon.

The value on the site doesn't match the store, why?
Sometimes the page may not update immediately. This is fairly rare though. The store's trade-in values are definitive though, so what they say is what you get. 99.99% of the time they will match up.

The value on the iPhone/Android app is way off, why?
The app often sucks for updating values (and some games simply don't show up), don't rely on it if you don't have to.

The game I want to trade isn't on the site, what gives?
While rare, there have been some games recently not showing up in the online estimator. You can always check in-store to see if the price is in their system and simply not online, but that is unlikely to be the case (as in, it is possible that has never been the case). When Best Buy doesn't have a game on file they can offer $1 as a generic SKU, but that's it. New releases appear to be added on Tuesday evenings. Many new releases are taking upwards of a week or more to be added to the site.

How come the GOTY/complete version doesn't show up in the estimator?
Best Buy doesn't differentiate between the vanilla and GOTY/complete versions of a game 99% of the time. This is largely a cover-all policy due to the fact that many GOTY editions include the game's DLC and bonus content as one-time use codes; meaning that the game has no extra value on the 2nd hand market and honestly, Best Buy probably doesn't trust their employees to make sure all the extra content is included. So no extra TIV for your GOTY games. The plus side is that GOTY and vanilla versions sell at the same price, so if the DLC is located on disc and you find a GOTY version in-store it will be the same price as the vanilla one.

When do trade-in values update?
No one knows for sure, but updates can and do happen at any time. Sometimes an update will happen at an atypical time, such as when GameStop has an advertised sale for a game well below Best Buy's trade in price.

What will be the TIV of Game X tomorrow/next week / next month/ etc
Nobody knows.

If I locked in a trade online, and the value drops, will I still get the locked in value when I mail it in?
Yes. You will get the locked in TIV as long as the item is received within 14 days of you locking it in (and the item is in the condition you described it as). Again, the item MUST BE RECEIVED within 14 days. It is not enough to simply ship it within the 14 day time period (like Amazon). Be mindful of this if you are trying to trade in a game that you are waiting to ship/arrive from an online store. If you miss the receiving deadline and then complain about it in the thread you will probably be made fun of. You have been warned.

Can you lock in the price online then trade it in-store?
No. Online and in-store are completely separate in every way but their base trade in values.

Do I get the XX% bonus or my 10% GCU bonus when trading online?

No. All bonuses, including GCU member bonus only work in-store.  The value listed on the website is the value you will receive, nothing more.

How do I get my giftcard for online trades?

Online trades will receive a E-Giftcard.  E-Giftcards can be printed and used in store, you can also go in store and ask a cashier to "transfer" it to a real giftcard, i.e. buy a real giftcard with the E-Giftcard funds if you wish. Apparently the online system states they will mail a giftcard but this is not accurate. 

Is there a limit to how many games I can trade in?
Officially, Best Buy recently changed their policy on this then changed it back. You can trade up to 3 copies of a title per platform. The system will not automatically stop you from trading in more than 3 copies of a game, some have done so frequently without issue but many others have been banned for trading over the limit in the past so it is not recommended if you wish to keep Best Buy as a trade in option in the future. Obviously it is YMMV, but do so at your own risk. If you regularly re-buy games at lower prices and trade in a lot it may be wise to keep track of all that you trade in.


Can I trade game disc only, or do I need the case and manuals, too?
Best Buy accepts disc only games (for the same value as complete games). The trade in will take longer though as the employee will have to look up the games individually. Yes, this also applies to DS, 3DS, PSP, etc. If you have the manual and artwork you should trade it in though anyway to improve the quality of the selection for people who may want to buy the game in the future (you can't know if the game will be complete when you buy online for example).

Can I trade in games that say "Not for Resale" on the back?
Yes, since the only thing that matters is the disc. Some employees will fight this though, and in that case, just trade the game in as disc-only. Employees have gotten much better about knowing this policy though, and busier stores are more likely to have employees that have done more trade ins and know the rules.

Does Best Buy accept game hardware?
Currently Best Buy only accepts various versions of the Nintendo DS in store, but some stores apparently accept consoles as well. Call ahead before bringing it in. That said, the TIV for most hardware is lower than competitors.

Does the **% bonuses apply to game hardware?
No, games only.

When I do a in-store trade, I am asked: to be fingerprinted, to have my photo taken, how much I weigh, etc. What's the deal?
Pawn shop laws regulating trade-ins and resale of used goods varies from state to state or even city to city. It is not Best Buy's rule, and varies from store to store depending on where you live. At a minimum you'll need a government issued ID (passport, drivers license, military ID, etc.).

I went to a store to do a trade-in and they asked for a Best Buy receipt. WTF? 
Some stores are required to have receipts to accept trade-ins, again this is due to local Pawn shop laws and could vary from city to city. You can always check if the store(s) near you require a receipt on Best Buy's trade-in site.

Can I trade sealed games?
Yes. You must present your receipt for the sealed games you are trading in. It is ok if the purchase was made from another store. You do run the risk of drawing extra attention to yourself as trading in sealed products is often a sign of theft. Do not be surprised if this is questioned by an employee, or you are asked to leave, open the items and return. You might even be flat out denied by the employee or manager despite the official rule. It is their right to do so.

How does the get **% with pre-order bonus work?
After trading in your games, the employee SHOULD then sell you the pre-order for $5.

How much is a pre-order at Best Buy?
Pre-ordering at Best Buy cost $5, in fact, you aren't supposed to pay any more than that (and most employees won't let you if you ask). Yes, you can use the gift card you just received from your trade-in to purchase the pre-order.

Can I cancel a pre-order and keep the bonus?
Yes, the trade-in and the pre-order are completely separate transactions. Nothing will prevent you from returning to the Best Buy canceling the pre-order and receiving a refund. Some users have claimed that they were flagged for doing this multiple times though and were denied, so be aware of how many pre-orders you are cancelling. Also keep in mind the obvious facts that this is not how the program is intended to work and over abuse will negatively affect the program long-term. Lastly, returns are tracked on a personal level by a third party. (Read: try not to cancel a bunch of pre-orders)

Do I have to cancel the pre-order at the same store where it was made?
No, this can be handled by any BBY. Don't be surprised if you get a customer service employee who says otherwise though.

Can I pre-order once and get the pre-order bonus on my next trade-in as well?
YMMV. Officially, the answer is no, but there is nothing that actually requires the employee to sell the pre-order in order to apply the bonus so if your blue shirt is in a friendly mood they may be willing. Doesn't hurt to get to know the employees at your store. That said, expect that you will have to pre-order another game and be surprised if you don't.

Can I combine a 3 games for **% and a pre-order for **% bonus?
No. Bonuses do not stack, and you must pick one or the other. The only bonus that stacks with other promotions is the 10% you receive if you are a Gamers Club Unlocked member.

Remember, all trades are technically at the discretion of Best Buy and they can refuse to accept a game for whatever reason they want (outside of you being black, woman, Jewish, etc.).

 
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So I traded in two copies of Legends of War Patton for PS3 and one for 360 this past Sunday before I knew of the new 1-game limit. I suppose I'm going to get banned now? The new limit seems way too unrealistic. The 3-game limit that they had before seemed much more fair, especially to people who buy, trade-in, and re-buy the game later on.

I looked back through posts and didn't see any confirmed dates of when they are going to strictly enforce the policy. It's good thing I haven't used my $30 renewal coupon yet. I might end up using it on a new account if I do get banned.
Your GCU account isn't banned and can still be used for Trade ins. What is banned is your licence. Hence a GF could still do trades ins and get you the 10% if she used her ID but gave your phone number for the unlocked.

 
So I traded in two copies of Legends of War Patton for PS3 and one for 360 this past Sunday before I knew of the new 1-game limit. I suppose I'm going to get banned now? The new limit seems way too unrealistic. The 3-game limit that they had before seemed much more fair, especially to people who buy, trade-in, and re-buy the game later on.

I looked back through posts and didn't see any confirmed dates of when they are going to strictly enforce the policy. It's good thing I haven't used my $30 renewal coupon yet. I might end up using it on a new account if I do get banned.
They don't ban the rewards account for trade-ins they ban the drivers license/ID. So making a new rewards account wouldn't mean anything. They ban the RZ account if you break the 3 purchase limit, not trade-in.

Wouldn't they have to send out some sort of communication before changing the rules like that ?
No because it's not a contract they are changing. It's just the terms of the trade-in. They can change it whenever they want, just like when they changed the return policy months ago. That is why many many ToS say "Subject to change without notice"

 
No because it's not a contract they are changing. It's just the terms of the trade-in. They can change it whenever they want, just like when they changed the return policy months ago. That is why many many ToS say "Subject to change without notice"
Though they did make that information publicly available and if I'm not mistaken even sent out an email.

These are some significant changes to the terms of the trade in program, they'd have to post them SOMEWHERE.

 
Your GCU account isn't banned and can still be used for Trade ins. What is banned is your licence. Hence a GF could still do trades ins and get you the 10% if she used her ID but gave your phone number for the unlocked.
Ok, well I guess I'll just see what happens. I actually do a significant amount of business at Best Buy so I hope they take that into consideration before banning my DL. Also that I very rarely trade in more than one copy of a game per system. Most times I luck out when there is a threat of being banned. Worst case is I get the wife to do the trade-in's on her DL and pay attention to their strict rules.

 
Though they did make that information publicly available and if I'm not mistaken even sent out an email.

These are some significant changes to the terms of the trade in program, they'd have to post them SOMEWHERE.

If it is I've not been able to find it. Only thing in writing as far as limits go is that you are limited to 3 trade in transactions per day.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/null/null/pcmcat257100050022.c?id=pcmcat257100050022

 
Yep, about 2 yrs ago I gave them the idea to increase the cost of GCU in a tiered structure. I also stated they could charge up to $100 per yr if they offered a "discount on new items". I never thought they`d offer 20% off which is why I only asked for 10% especially with the profit margins on games being so small. The copycat deals from GS like get a game for $10 when trading in 2 select titles popped up not long after a mod presented the GS link I pm`d him.

Dude I ain`t gotta lie about nothing my record speaks for itself of the 7 ideas that are "under review" 5 are mine & 1 is an idea that BB completed when I suggested it previously. Of the 19 "complete ideas" 3 are mine. So outta of possible 26 ideas that have advanced very far in BB`s ecosystem I`m responsible for bringing 9 of them to their attention(with the support of the CAG community). 9/26 that`s well over 30%.

I have the same name on the BB forums and you can`t edit anything there. Everything is also dated there so you could easily check to see if I posted some of the primary perks of the current GCU long BEFORE it went into effect.
http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Best-Buy-IdeaX/Adding-a-quot-Silver-quot-tier-to-the-Gamers-Club/idi-p/492283
I wish you no ill will but I truly doubt the "majority" of this site or any other game site would ever pay $100 upfront for a year membership at a retailer.....

and the 20% has allowed me to buy a few games there vs other options but the reality is many retailers have sales on many titles that equate to at least 20% savings....

 
Though they did make that information publicly available and if I'm not mistaken even sent out an email.

These are some significant changes to the terms of the trade in program, they'd have to post them SOMEWHERE.
It would be good customer relations practice to announce or notice the changes, but they certainly don't HAVE to do it as a legal matter.

 
I wish you no ill will but I truly doubt the "majority" of this site or any other game site would ever pay $100 upfront for a year membership at a retailer.....
and the 20% has allowed me to buy a few games there vs other options but the reality is many retailers have sales on many titles that equate to at least 20% savings....
It's technically $60 a year.

Getting new games for 48+tax (while still being able to get points and promos) is a damn good deal though. Getting 20% on top of sale of sale prices is also cool.

I likely would have passed on the membership at full price, especially with these new trade restrictions
 
I wish you no ill will but I truly doubt the "majority" of this site or any other game site would ever pay $100 upfront for a year membership at a retailer.....
and the 20% has allowed me to buy a few games there vs other options but the reality is many retailers have sales on many titles that equate to at least 20% savings....
No offense taken but I don`t think the "majority'' would pay $100/yr for GCU as is stands either but they would if it was offered this way and that`s w/o the 20% discount.

1- $10 rz for every $150 spent on games returns, $15 rz for every $150 spent on PSN/XBL/Steam cards
2- 10% off ALL GAMING accessories, 10% back in an instant GC on restricted items like consoles, 20% off used games
3- All $60 MSRP pre-orders come with $25 credit($20 in 2 weeks, $5 bonus when traded back in)
4- All $40 MSRP pre-orders come w/$15 credit($10 in 2 weeks, $5 bonus when traded in)
5- All $100, $150+ CE/SE pre-orders get $5-$20 bonus added to the normal pre-order bonus
6- @Gamer mag stays but cost $10, total coupons increase to 20, coupon quality returns to when @gamer was at it`s best
7- 6 New welcome kit coupons (b2g1new/used, b2g2(used), b3g3(used), 50% off 1 used game & 30% off all used games in 1 transaction. Coupons giving on spot in store.
8- Free shipping on all gaming items
9- Everything can be done online including sign up
10- $1000 spent on gaming gets a free elite plus membership + 1 free game
11- 2X pts on gaming, 3X pts on purchases $250+, 5X pts on consoles when purchased with a warranty
12- Trade in counters + dedicated staff return
13- No bans, do better converting trade credit into sales of big ticket items
14- Mass flippers would have to re-up $100 when they reach certain limits 100 total games
15- Black Friday early access for gaming on Monday before BF & monthly exclusive gaming deals

At some there will be a deal/offer that will entice you to spend the $100 no matter what type of gamer/shopper they are. In between that time they get fat on the $10 single issue sales.
 
Yeah. Lets just add 15+ things to a program the employees and average Joe gamer already don't understand. Hell, plenty of people on this site already don't understand the program.

 
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No offense taken but I don`t think the "majority'' would pay $100/yr for GCU as is stands either but they would if it was offered this way and that`s w/o the 20% discount.

1- $10 rz for every $150 spent on games returns, $15 rz for every $150 spent on PSN/XBL/Steam cards
2- 10% off ALL GAMING accessories, 10% back in an instant GC on restricted items like consoles, 20% off used games
3- All $60 MSRP pre-orders come with $25 credit($20 in 2 weeks, $5 bonus when traded back in)
4- All $40 MSRP pre-orders come w/$15 credit($10 in 2 weeks, $5 bonus when traded in)
5- All $100, $150+ CE/SE pre-orders get $5-$20 bonus added to the normal pre-order bonus
6- @Gamer mag stays but cost $10, total coupons increase to 20, coupon quality returns to when @gamer was at it`s best
7- 6 New welcome kit coupons (b2g1new/used, b2g2(used), b3g3(used), 50% off 1 used game & 30% off all used games in 1 transaction. Coupons giving on spot in store.
8- Free shipping on all gaming items
9- Everything can be done online including sign up
10- $1000 spent on gaming gets a free elite plus membership + 1 free game
11- 2X pts on gaming, 3X pts on purchases $250+, 5X pts on consoles when purchased with a warranty
12- Trade in counters + dedicated staff return
13- No bans, do better converting trade credit into sales of big ticket items
14- Mass flippers would have to re-up $100 when they reach certain limits 100 total games
15- Black Friday early access for gaming on Monday before BF & monthly exclusive gaming deals

At some there will be a deal/offer that will entice you to spend the $100 no matter what type of gamer/shopper they are. In between that time they get fat on the $10 single issue sales.
And a free unicorn with each purchase of a 20 oz soda.

There's no way the math on that would work out even with a $100 a year buyin. A business is about making money for shareholders. Giving $25 off new titles is a pipe dream. Console margins are so tight that 10% off (outside of manufacturer supported promos) a pipe dream. You cant complain that they cherry picked the 20% off new titles from your IdeaX and didn't implement the rest, because the rest is something that a mind addled syphilitic would put forward.
 
Yeah too bad that will never happen lol
It`s their loss as my way is much MORE PROFITABLE, I figured you would`ve been against it b/c of the cost the customer.

Yeah. Lets just add 15+ things to a program the employees and average Joe gamer already don't understand. Hell, plenty of people on this site already don't understand the program.
FYI: I already addressed this issue with BB
http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Best-Buy-IdeaX/Where-are-the-tv-ads-for-Gamer-s-Club-Unlocked/idi-p/769067#M3699
If you`re putting $100 upfront you`ll learn real fast & #12 is intended to assist with program awareness. If BB wants to succeed it`s in their best interest to educate both staff & customers. Also, it`s not even 15 new things half of them should never require assistance from Sheldon, Leonard, Howard & Raj. Penny can handle it. If a person can`t understand what free shipping is or that they can sign up + make gaming purchases online I`m not sure if they`ll be able to "appreciate" the value of any version of GCU.

And a free unicorn with each purchase of a 20 oz soda.
There's no way the math on that would work out even with a $100 a year buyin. A business is about making money for shareholders. Giving $25 off new titles is a pipe dream. Console margins are so tight that 10% off (outside of manufacturer supported promos) a pipe dream. You cant complain that they cherry picked the 20% off new titles from your IdeaX and didn't implement the rest, because the rest is something that a mind addled syphilitic would put forward.
Unicorns & pipe dreams LOL you sound like a person who knows what he`s talking about but didn`t thoroughly read what you replied to. My math is quite sound and the profit margins are incredibly higher my way. Add it up.

1-.I never said anything about "giving $25 off new titles"
2- Not sure why would they NEED a manufacturer supported promo for the 10% GC on consoles. In fact, the moment a manufacturer supported promo would go into effect(like a $100 GC) that would be the deal that causes memberships to spike & stock to sell out. As it stands you would have to pay $500 for a PS4 to get a $40 GC & $600 for a XB1 to get a $50 GC. I didn`t say "take 10% off the console".

Shareholders would love me b/c my way sells stuff at full price. Even if you don`t put up the $100 upfront, I`ll get close to it by enticing people to spend $10 month after month on single issues of @gamer. At some point ppl will see that they`ve spent so much on singles that they would be better with the sub & the perks they've been missing out on. Then their true cost increases even more profitably in BB`s favor.

Also, I never "complained" about anything the whole point of me posting the ideas is so they do it. @Deader took it to "they stole it" stuff not me. I just stated that I put out the idea of charging a premium price to offer premium discounts on new items long before BB put it in place.

The $25 pre-order deals would be hugely profitable as BB would be averaging $95-$110 per game. And $10 of the $20 would be covered by some of the publishers. With the added market share of pre-orders BB would be able to get more publishers to sign on board having a larger GCU install base to market to. I believe they also get a volume discount so being able to have a signifcantly higher pre-order base would allow them to further cut costs.

Even with the best deal possible the $25 pre-orders would be more profitable than the previous 5 for $100 deal & that`s with selling 1 less $60 title. And that`s not including that you have to put up $100 just to be able to participate.

Also, store credit customers are INSANELY PROFITABLE for retailers as they tend to overspend beyond their credit & large amounts of credit is lost/forgotten about.

The success of GCU relies heavily on BB`s ability to add $120 customers.
The success of BB as a whole(in relation to GCU) relies heavily BB`s ability to convert trade in credit into sales outside of gaming. Preferably, towards high end big ticket items that they can sell warranties on. I`ve also posted the blueprints on how they can achieve both profitably.

http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Best-Buy-IdeaX/Offer-packages-that-come-with-a-quot-free-quot-or-discounted-GCU/idi-p/763603
http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Best-Buy-IdeaX/Coupons-to-expand-the-videogame-trade-in-program/idi-p/762607
http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/t5/ideas/v2/ideapage/blog-id/IdeaX/article-id/3532?device-view=desktop
What makes my ideas so sound is that while BB enjoys nice profts & new revenue streams it`s still EXTREMELY CAG friendly. Win, Win Win
 
Jesus Christ dude just give it up already,lol. You act like you are CEO of Best Buy or something.

Honestly, your idea is just way to complex of a system. They would have a hard time explaining it to people to get them to want to put the cash out for it.

Hell, they can barely even give discounts or add my 10% trade in bonus correctly.

 
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Dude listen, you and I have both been at CAG for some time. You've paid your dues, earned your place in the community & at this point have seen it alll I respect that. If you notice I don`t curse out others or go attacking ppl with the keyboard tough talk. There`s more than enough of that from other members.

Hell with the exception of the $30 coupon 90% of the discussions are whether GCU is worth it, is it legal for them to change the trade in limits, what they do wrong, what they should change...There`s nothing else going on.

I don`t care if a person agrees or disagrees with me b/c I`m not always right & I`m not afraid to admit when I`m wrong or make a mistake(I just learned something about the visa card double dip for a CAG last week). But my name/quotes are commented frequently on here & on the BB forums so I make a point to make sure things that are said are factual. And that the context of what was said is fully transparent.

I`m not sure if you were as active at CAG when I 1st joined but just as shady posted it was pretty much just me pushing BB on CAG.. Everybody was all AMZ AMZ AMZ!!!! Until they peeped that the pm`s overcame no tax + rz certs. There was/is alot of work behind the scenes from myself & several other CAG`s like HTZ, velo, Budz, IATCG & the.guy with the animated MGS logo(plus others I`m forgetring sorry). Not to mention the hundreds of CAG`s who took time to kudo posts on the forums page.
So for you to act like it didn`t matter I take that as a huge insult & not just to me more importantly to the people who made time to setup a new account just for the chance to voice their opinions to BB on behallf of CAG.

I hope you can better understand me from this post & yes the ideax threads do make a difference. Ever since the attempt to get an official BB rep to join CAG BB has gained a huge respect for our voices.
I don`t know if I still have the emails from some BB corp. rep she was floored when she saw an @gamer thread with so many views/replies she couldn`t believe it. Especially since the coupons weren`t live for I think close to a week lol An employee pm`d them to me. The rep kept emailing me as the thread exploded when 2 games went on sale it had like 10-15 pages before the coupons went live.

Really? y
Enuf was the one person that consistently drove CAGs to best buy deals for a long time before Budz and HTZ took up a lot more of the load.
 
I`ll sign off on this I don`t see why the majority of the perks I suggested can`t easily be put in writing in the same fashion as the current ones are
https://www.my.bestbuy.com/gamers/benefits

All the profit/loss stuff is for BB to figure out

And I fully agree w/you @deader that they need to work agressively to fix the 10% & other discounts. I`m butting heads with them right now tryin to get it addressed so all you guys don`t have to deal with the headaches.
 
No offense taken but I don`t think the "majority'' would pay $100/yr for GCU as is stands either but they would if it was offered this way and that`s w/o the 20% discount.
the way they have it set up is more plausible and better IMO. 20% off all new games is really all I need and trumps all the things you mention

 
enuf - please stop.   I actually do this shit for a living (though not for retail).  Unless you actually have real costs and margins, everything you're daydreaming is just a daydream.  without actuals, you don't have a model.  without a model, you have no idea what is profitable and/or doable.

 
Jeez, talk about a bunch of hooie, can someone call the CEO and have him fix the search function * is no longer working and I've had to change my scripts again !!

 
the way they have it set up is more plausible and better IMO. 20% off all new games is really all I need and trumps all the things you mention
Did you pay $120? If not, wouId you pay $120 right now for 2 yrs? Most people keep saying no. I don`t think the 20% will last b/c not enough new non $30 re-ups will buy in. The 20% is great for sale prices but I stand by my $40 rule I can wait for the pm.

enuf - please stop. I actually do this shit for a living (though not for retail). Unless you actually have real costs and margins, everything you're daydreaming is just a daydream. without actuals, you don't have a model. without a model, you have no idea what is profitable and/or doable.
You've been around for a while & per your job you`d be the person to ask
Isn`t it common knowledge at this point that you can figure what BB`s pays for items "cost plus 5%" based off the employee discount. Consoles have no discount & the discounts can`t exceed 50% off.
$12-$15 off the $60 is what I`ve always seen & the current $48 seems like we`re getting what the employees pay.
As for the pre-order credits isn`t generally split $10 from BB & $10 from the sponser. I thought these were the industry standards based off what the retailers themselves stated publically. It`s not like I pulled the #`s outta thin air.
http://www.latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/02/anatomy-of-a-60-dollar-video-game.html
 
Yeah, all that works on the surface. What you won't know is the acceptable margin per category of item or by time.

So while corporate might say "as a whole we are willing to take cost + 5% for our employees" for x,y, and z, that's completely different from what they need from the public.

So even if you could back into cost per video game at 45 or 48 per, what are they willing to take gross? What incentives do they receive by publisher?

What revenue target do they need to hit this quarter?

Etc etc

While you may be able to do some of what you're proposing, there's too much you don't know about the economics of the company. You should just move to Minneapolis and work your way up. It might be your true calling. (I'm not being a dick - I'm serious. It sounds like it would be fun for you. )

Anyway, did they do a yellow tag door busters sale last year? I just got an email about it on 1/23. What type of things go on sale?
 
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Eureka!

 
You know me I don`t take it personally & I don`t get caught up in the name calling n stuff. I respect everybody`s opinion so no biggie I just don`t like it when ppl post quotes that I never said. B/C then it makes it into other threads as "enuf said" & it`s a misquote. Again no biggie you didn`t do it

As for MN, not for what they pay to move from PA. I feel they could learn a ton about gaming & to be honest alot of CAG`s could give them great advice since we all know more about it then they do. At best I could do some consulting work but deep down I`m still loyal to CAG so I`d try to make sure they had deals for here too. Too bad they never put an actual rep on CAG.

As for the sale, it happens every yr BB is just being much more agressive in 2014. They had a ridiculous 2013 something like +280% stock & they wanna build on that this yr.
Allan did fast foward this basic premise of this last yr
http://www.forums.bestbuy.com/t5/ideas/v2/ideapage/blog-id/IdeaX/article-id/2672?device-view=desktop
 
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Here is a reply from the BB mod- I love the part that he did not even knows the trade in terms changed LOL




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Hello CheapestGamer,

This change is new information to me as well.  While I am not aware of the date the change was established, you can expect to have your game limits based on a 365 day rolling calendar.  If you were to trade in 20 games by the 15th of this month, you would be able to trade in another 30 until January 15, 2015.  The same goes for individual title rule.

While the system may recognize if an item has already been traded in prior to a current trade-in attempt, it is still possible that the transaction will go through.  Violating the trade-in restrictions, even if the system does not catch it at the time, can result in trade-in bans.

I will try to find out if any trades done prior to the change are not currently counted toward your yearly trade limits, but unless anything different is said you should expect that current rules apply and if 27 trades were completed at the end of December,  then 23 are remaining until the end of this next December.

Thank you for participating in Best Buy's trade in program.  I trust that the program can continue to help you keep your game library fresh as new games are released.

Regards,

 
 



With the policy above I am better off going out with a Bang and get banned for one year since I will hit the 50 games like 3 months. Since after 50 games I cant trade anymore for one year anywaz, Its like a banned once i hit 50. I just need to make sure the banned does not effect my rewards account.

 
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fuck, it better not be. I'm going in about 3 hours.
I went to 2 stores on Sunday. At the first one, the trade was going incredibly slowly, and after trying on a couple of different stations, the CSR finally told me the system was down. A few hours later at the second, it was also very slow, but they finally managed to get it to go through. Even scanning the gift card wasn't working, so someone from mobile came over and showed them how to activate it without scanning.
 
I went to 2 stores on Sunday. At the first one, the trade was going incredibly slowly, and after trying on a couple of different stations, the CSR finally told me the system was down. A few hours later at the second, it was also very slow, but they finally managed to get it to go through. Even scanning the gift card wasn't working, so someone from mobile came over and showed them how to activate it without scanning.
Ugh...I just have two games I'd like to trade in. Maybe I'll get lucky and it will be running smoothly when I get in. Thanks for the info guys, I'll temper my expectations.

 
Trade in worked for me. Guys said it was slower than normal, but didnt feel too slow to me. (They're always slow).
In my experience most employees say "xxx is down" when they simply don't want to be bothered. Sometimes that is not the case and the system is down, but it is more commonly discussed on CAG if that is true.

 
Here is a reply from the BB mod- I love the part that he did not even knows the trade in terms changed LOL





Re: When were the video game trade-in program terms and conditions changed? [ New ]






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13m ago


Hello CheapestGamer,

This change is new information to me as well. While I am not aware of the date the change was established, you can expect to have your game limits based on a 365 day rolling calendar. If you were to trade in 20 games by the 15th of this month, you would be able to trade in another 30 until January 15, 2015. The same goes for individual title rule.

While the system may recognize if an item has already been traded in prior to a current trade-in attempt, it is still possible that the transaction will go through. Violating the trade-in restrictions, even if the system does not catch it at the time, can result in trade-in bans.

I will try to find out if any trades done prior to the change are not currently counted toward your yearly trade limits, but unless anything different is said you should expect that current rules apply and if 27 trades were completed at the end of December, then 23 are remaining until the end of this next December.

Thank you for participating in Best Buy's trade in program. I trust that the program can continue to help you keep your game library fresh as new games are released.

Regards,






With the policy above I am better off going out with a Bang and get banned for one year since I will hit the 50 games like 3 months. Since after 50 games I cant trade anymore for one year anywaz, Its like a banned once i hit 50. I just need to make sure the banned does not effect my rewards account.
wow, so they are really going through with the banning on duplicates, and 50 limit per year. LOL.

thank god i kept my receipt for trade ins

 
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wow, so they are really going through with the banning on duplicates, and 50 limit per year. LOL.
thank god i kept my receipt for trade ins
Should be able to check your recent transactions on the RZ website.

The new limits blow though. I'd say you should be able to exceed 50 if you buy more than 50 games from them. Also the 1 title limit is worse...what if you own the same game on multiple platforms?
 
So I know this whole 1 title limit surfaced about a week ago , does anyone know exactly when this new policy went into affect . Also I read conflicting things , is it 1 title per system or strictly one title overall ?
 
So I know this whole 1 title limit surfaced about a week ago , does anyone know exactly when this new policy went into affect . Also I read conflicting things , is it 1 title per system or strictly one title overall ?
mostly likely the latter, of strictly one title overall.

 
wow, so they are really going through with the banning on duplicates, and 50 limit per year. LOL.

thank god i kept my receipt for trade ins
What this rep said is conflicting with the FAQ as far as banning goes. In the FAQ there is NO mention of banning, you are just treated as a volume seller and you may not receive the same value and bonuses offered for normal trade-ins.

 
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