Bye Bye Internet!

Dkellar

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Congress is going to hand the operation of the Internet over to AT&T, Verizon and Comcast. Democrats are helping. It's a shame.

Don’t look now, but the House Commerce Committee next Wednesday is likely to vote to turn control of the Internet over to AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Time Warner and what’s left of the telecommunications industry. It will be one of those stories the MSM writes about as “little noticed” because they haven’t covered it.

On the surface, it may seem a stretch to think that those companies could control the great, wide, infinite Internet. After all, the incredible diversity of the Net allowed everything -- Web sites and services of all kinds to exist in perfect harmony. What’s more, they were all delivered to your screen without any interference by the companies that carried the bits to and fro. Until recently, they had to. It was the law. The telephone companies, which carried all of the Web traffic until relatively recently, had to treat all of their calls alike without giving any Web site or service favored treatment over another.

The result was today’s Internet, which developed as a result of billions of dollars of investments, from the largest Internet company that spent millions on software and networking, to the one person with a blog who spent a few hundred dollars on a laptop. The Internet grew into a universal public resource because the telephone and cable companies simply transported the bits.

Last fall, however, the Federal Communications Commission, backed by the U.S. Supreme Court, decided that the high-speed Internet services offered by the cable and telephone companies didn’t fall under that law, the Communications Act. Out the window went the law that treated everyone equally. Now, with broadband, we are in a new game without rules.

Telephone and cable companies own 98% of the high-speed broadband networks the public uses to go online for reading news, shopping, listening to music, posting videos or any of the thousands of other uses developed for the Internet. But that isn’t enough. They want to control what you read, see or hear online. The companies say that they will create premium lanes on the Internet for higher fees, and give preferential access to their own services and those who can afford extra charges. The rest of us will be left to use an inferior version of the Internet.

Admittedly, it hasn’t become a problem yet. But to think it won’t become one is to ignore 100 years of history of anti-competitive behavior by the phone companies. And it was a mere six weeks or so from the time the FCC issued its ill-fated decision to the time when Ed Whitacre, the CEO of (then-SBC) now AT&T issued his famous manifesto attacking Google and other Web sites for “using my pipes (for) free.” They don’t, by the way.

Here’s the inside baseball: A couple of weeks ago, a courageous band of legislators tried to stop the madness in Subcommittee. Ed Markey, Rick Boucher, Anna Eshoo and Jay Inslee proposed some good language to protect the Internet. For their troubles, they just got four more votes, other than theirs. Just three Democrats, other than the sponsors, voted for it. Only one Republican voted for it. When we talk about special interest giveaways, this one will be at the top of the list. And we won’t have only Republicans to blame.


Source: http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/29086

I was searching the net and found this. Now, this greatly worries me as I do not want my internet to be limited to whatever sites comcast or at&t provide me. This is total bullshit if congress hands over control to those companies.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Will they have to pay royalties to Al Gore?[/QUOTE]


attacking al gore when he did actually help push for civillian internet for shame
 
I hate the idea of Comcast controlling anything. I hate how depending on where you are located, you're basic cable is totally different with them even if the price is the same (what I mean is we don't get a lot of channels that are basic cable channels while my friend who lives in another state also with Comcast gets more channels that are also basic cable channels such as ESPN Classic).

I could see Comcast doing the same thing with the internet (to a different extent)
 
Well how the hell are you supposed to pirate Warner movies when they own the internet?

But seriously I think it should be owned by the people.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']attacking al gore when he did actually help push for civillian internet for shame[/QUOTE]
oh get over yourself, it was a joke.
 
fuckin A... like $60 a month for porn... er.. the internet isn't enough.

This will have serious rammifications if this is true. Jesus, its like putting the executive of a logging company in charge of national parks... oh wait.... #-o
 
[quote name='Kayden']fuckin A... like $60 a month for porn... er.. the internet isn't enough.

This will have serious rammifications if this is true. Jesus, its like putting the executive of a logging company in charge of national parks... oh wait.... #-o[/QUOTE]

I can see internet companies charging more if a person wants to access adult websites. They'll make a KILLING off of it of course. I can also see many more pop-ups that cannot be blocked.
 
[quote name='Dkellar']I can see internet companies charging more if a person wants to access adult websites. They'll make a KILLING off of it of course. I can also see many more pop-ups that cannot be blocked.[/quote]

Of course they'll be more than willing to sell you the ultra super delux intarnetz that don't have adds and only cost $80... a day.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']oh get over yourself, it was a joke.[/QUOTE]


i did get it was a joke, hence the "for shame" who uses that in common speech, though I still hate people dissin Al "Appeared on Futurama" Gore
 
[quote name='Scorch']I doubt this will happen..[/QUOTE]

You doubt that Congress will hand control of the internet over to the big telecommunication companies? Ha...I'm suprised it's not in their control right now.
 
[quote name='Scorch']I doubt this will happen..[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I bet most politicians are using the internet right now to download porn. They'll never let this pass.
 
What I don't get is how they can hand the WHOLE internet over to a handful of US companies. The internet spans the globe. What authority does the US have to give it to anyone? Or are they just talking about controlling everything locally?
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']i did get it was a joke, hence the "for shame" who uses that in common speech, though I still hate people dissin Al "Appeared on Futurama" Gore[/QUOTE]

Oh, well then that's just GREAT!
 
Remember when the post office was supposedly going to charge a few per email? Me thinks this will go the same way... I... I hope anyway.
 
[quote name='Dkellar']You doubt that Congress will hand control of the internet over to the big telecommunication companies? Ha...I'm suprised it's not in their control right now.[/quote]

What I want to know is - will I still be able to recieve all phone calls. Or will phonecalls from Aunt Millie get less priority then those from Capital One credit cards.

While we're at it - let's completely privatise commodities so that only the rich enjoy uniterrupted service. Why just celebrate a digital divide when a formalized class structure is within the grasp of our brave new world.
 
[quote name='camoor']What I want to know is - will I still be able to recieve all phone calls. Or will phonecalls from Aunt Millie get less priority then those from Capital One credit cards.

While we're at it - let's completely privatise commodities so that only the rich enjoy uniterrupted service. Why just celebrate a digital divide when a formalized class structure is within the grasp of our brave new world.[/quote]

MMmmmmm That's some nice class structure right there.

It seems to me that the article is more about allowing these companies to use the networks they built how they want to use them.

Which I am also against, I don't trust those bastards any further than I can use their networks to contact someone.
 
[quote name='Quillion']MMmmmmm That's some nice class structure right there.

It seems to me that the article is more about allowing these companies to use the networks they built how they want to use them.

Which I am also against, I don't trust those bastards any further than I can use their networks to contact someone.[/quote]

So the telecommunications companies built the internets? Gee, I thought it was Al Gore. (Hint: look up ARPANET)

If upgrading something meant that you got to own it, then the pavement company that scored the local road-widening contract would own my county's roads, and the contractor who retiled my kitchen floor would own my house.

But nice try. Ass.
 
[quote name='camoor']So the ... companies built the ... upgrad ... widening ... my ... Ass.[/quote]

Selective quoting is so clever.
 
[quote name='Quillion']Selective quoting is so clever.[/quote]

Edited to place your entire post in the quote, including the non-relevant part.

Don't see how it makes you look any less ignorant, but hey, at least this way there's a chance you'll quit bitching.
 
House Committee Vote Results: The Momentum Shifts in Our Favor
April 26th, 2006 by Matt
Ok, so the vote on the Markey amendment to protect the internet has happened, and it was voted down, 34-22. That is a big deal. It’s too bad we lost the vote, but we expected that loss. What we did not expected was the narrow margin. By way of comparison, the subcommittee vote was 23-8, which means we should have gotten blown out of the water. We did not. All four targeted Dems by McJoan on Daily Kos flipped to our side, and many of the Congressmen both for and against this campaign mentioned the blogs and angry constituents.There’s a white hot firestorm on the issue on Capitol Hill. No one wants to see the telcos make a radical change to the internet and screw this medium up, except, well, the telcos. And now members of Congress are listening to us. The telcos have spent hundreds of millions of dollars and many years lobbying for their position; we launched four days ago, and have closed a lot of ground. Over the next few months, as the public wakes up, we’ll close the rest of it.

I watched the markup and the voting, and there was noticeable defensiveness among Congressmen on the wrong side of this. They are wrong, they know it, and they are ashamed. Now they know people are watching. So we didn’t win this vote, but this close margin was nonetheless a smack to the jaw of the insiders, and a clear victory for the people. Now the battle moves out of the Energy and Commerce Committee, and onto more favorable terrain.

As Sean-Paul said to me over email, “today was a victory as a few key players on the full committee changed their votes. Important action is required heading into the Senate but we have created significant momentum and the telco cartel is very afraid of us now.

This is not how they wanted it to go down. They wanted this amendment to fail quietly, so the Senate would not take it up. We changed the rules today. Great work.”

The fight is not over, and it will come back to the House. Contact your member and let them know how important this vote was to you.

Source: http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/

Just an update about this issue. I have contacted both of my Senators about this issue a few days ago, looks like I'm going to have to continue to contact them and express my disappointment in them voting against the Markey amendment. If they still don't change their minds then come voting time, I know who not to vote for. You all should contact your members of Congress about this issue.
 
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