Chris Benoit kills wife, 7 year old son and then self.

Perhaps he found out that his wife was having an affair with Kevin Sullivan and/or someone else. Who was also the real father of the child.

I don't mean to offend anyone with this post either, just throwing out my two cents on the matter.
 
[quote name='WrestlingObserver']WWE will go on with regular programming tomorrow in San Antonio, with Raw & ECW tapings not based on either a tribute to Chris Benoit or continuing the Vince McMahon angle.[/quote]
This really leads me to believe he did it, sadly.

Shitty timing on us hitting 500, I suppose.
 
Man I wonder what the "very strange" thing will be? I'm hoping there's a note explaining why. You just don't go and kill your 7 year old son for no reason. He could have suffered from severe depression, and hadn't take his meds.

[quote name='Genocidal']This really leads me to believe he did it, sadly.

Shitty timing on us hitting 500, I suppose.[/QUOTE]

I think we should just keep this going.

To think that someone who we knew as a nice guy would not only kill his family but walk around the house with them dead for two days. Is so fucking creepy it seems as if he wasn't in a right state of mind.
 
[quote name='Graystone']Man I wonder what the "very strange" thing will be? Maybe he went insane or him and his wife were worshiping the devil. I'm hoping there's a note explaining why?[/quote]What the fuck are you going on about again?
 
[quote name='Genocidal']What the fuck are you going on about again?[/QUOTE]

Listen captain giant fucking sig I'm talking about this

[quote name='Scorch']I can't remember where I read the report, but somewhere they said that when the details all come out, the results will be "very strange".
[/B][/QUOTE]

Am I the only one reading this thread? Seems like everyone else is just posting. This is the 2nd or third time I've had to explain myself to someone in this thread.
 
Congratulations on taking one post that doesn't link up to any verified reports and running with it as gospel. Perhaps you're the one who needs to step back into reality away from the devil worshipping and take a minute to read the thread.

In any event, the sickening reality that he was most likely the killer has hit, so it's off to bed since there most likely won't be any new reports for a while now.
 
I didnt even get a chance to watch Raw tonight. I caught this browsing through facebook groups. im totally shocked and i have no idea what the hell to say. double murder/suicide? This is really surreal. sorry for ccoming late but i literally found out 10 minutes ago..and i was sifting through the latest posts..

RIP Benoit Family......
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']. sorry for ccoming late but i literally found out 10 minutes ago..and i was sifting through the latest posts..

RIP Benoit Family......[/QUOTE]


Don't worry, its not making any sense. its really crazy.

[quote name='Genocidal']Congratulations on taking one post that doesn't link up to any verified reports and running with it [/QUOTE]

Scorch is reliable. I'd take his word.

btw why the fuck does everyone want to fight in this thread. Its like George Reeves syndrome. He's dead his family is dead maybe by his hands. So stop defending him.

[quote name='Genocidal']
In any event, the sickening reality that he was most likely the killer has hit,[/QUOTE]

Coherent sentences please.
 
Well, I thought it sounded like a murder/suicide early on in the thread, and it seems that it was so.

With new reports coming out that confirm murder was involved, I'm convinced in my own mind that last night's RAW was completely worthless. Nobody who kills his own wife and son deserves any praise or dedication show. Great wrestler or not, he doesn't deserve it.
 
[quote name='Plinko']Well, I thought it sounded like a murder/suicide early on in the thread, and it seems that it was so.

With new reports coming out that confirm murder was involved, I'm convinced in my own mind that last night's RAW was completely worthless. Nobody who kills his own wife and son deserves any praise or dedication show. Great wrestler or not, he doesn't deserve it.[/QUOTE]

Like I said IF he did it I agree with you. However WWE didn't know about this until after the show had aired. No one really knows if he did it yet. But like I said earlier police don't just randomly pick how they're going to handle a crime scene.
 
[quote name='Plinko']Well, I thought it sounded like a murder/suicide early on in the thread, and it seems that it was so.

With new reports coming out that confirm murder was involved, I'm convinced in my own mind that last night's RAW was completely worthless. Nobody who kills his own wife and son deserves any praise or dedication show. Great wrestler or not, he doesn't deserve it.[/QUOTE]


Good people are capable of committing terrible acts under certain circumstances. Even if Benoit did kill his wife and child (which is absolutely deplorable and awful), I don't think that renders the RAW memorial show worthless.

Benoit was apparently a man that was beloved by his peers, employers, fans, and friends. We don't know what extenuating circumstances may have prompted what happened in this house or what was going through Benoit's mind. IF he did what it appears he has done, it is indeed inexcusable, but in my view a human being's worth is measured by the totality of their life and how they tried to live it, not by one act.
 
Someone posted it a few posts back, here it is again since it might have been skipped over:

"Source: PWTorch.com

To further update you on the tragic events leading up to the death of Chris Benoit, Nancy Benoit and Daniel Benoit.

New reports suggest that Chris Benoit strangled his wife and son, possibly a day a part. It’s also being reported that he then took his own life after he hanged himself some time Monday.

Officials are expected to release a statement sometime this morning/afternoon to further update us on new information in the case.

Stay tuned to the website, we will post more information as we receive it."
 
***He used to come into the office of the porn shop I worked at and visit with everyone (really he was buying drugs from the company pres). He was a messed up individual.
Oh yeah..he was just there for the HUGE jars of Vitamin B, a jeweler's scale and some gem baggies.
The bongs and metal pipes were only for tobacco, too.***

From someone at an EQ forum I visit posted. Why do celebs always seem to have a drug problem? Hell if I was that rich, I have better things to spend money on than drugs. I wouldn't be surprised if drugs was the reason why he killed his family.

Edit : added more info
 
[quote name='gokou36']***He used to come into the office of the porn shop I worked at and visit with everyone (really he was buying drugs from the company pres). He was a messed up individual.***

From someone at an EQ forum I visit posted. Why do celebs always seem to have a drug problem? Hell if I was that rich, I have better things to spend money on than drugs. I wouldn't be surprised if drugs was the reason why he killed his family.[/QUOTE]

Three reasons: they've got the money to support it, the WWE climate for a long time was to work through the pain by using pills, and Benoit is one of the few guys who always seemed to be hurt. If it was drugs, it was probably pain killers.

Having said that, this whole situation is just going to get worse as Benoit is going to have a ton of shit brought up about him and more made up. The sad fact is that at this point it looks like he deserves it. Christ, why can't wrestlers be more like football players and only die young when they're in car accidents (no matter how many drugs they seemingly take).

If this isn't enough of an argument for wrestling to have an "off season", I don't know what is.

Edit: And sorry to get everyone going on the Nancy was a devil worshiper angle. It's just common knowledge that she was involved with Kevin Sullivan before they broke up, and Kevin's most notable gimmick was the Satanist gimmick. He and Nancy used the gimmick on the Indy scene for quite some time before dropping the gimmick. My source on him being an actual satanist is a long time friend who has worked with WWE in the past. He also had the Benoit story posted at 2 pm because someone in the company called him up. I usually take what he says at face value when it comes to wrestling because he's worked with the E so often.

Nancy did some screwy things in her life, but now it sounds like Benoit was ten times more fucked up then she would ever be.
 
in fairness to wwf as posted by others they had no clue at the time of raw what was going on other than they was dead. benoit was one hell of a wrestler and that can not be taken away from him on the other hand if he had that bad a problem he should have just killed himeself leave the wife and son out of it that is a pussy's way out in my opinion
 
[quote name='furyk']If this isn't enough of an argument for wrestling to have an "off season", I don't know what is.[/quote]

I've been saying that for the longest time too.
 
[quote name='furyk']Three reasons: they've got the money to support it, the WWE climate for a long time was to work through the pain by using pills, and Benoit is one of the few guys who always seemed to be hurt. If it was drugs, it was probably pain killers.

Having said that, this whole situation is just going to get worse as Benoit is going to have a ton of shit brought up about him and more made up. The sad fact is that at this point it looks like he deserves it. Christ, why can't wrestlers be more like football players and only die young when they're in car accidents (no matter how many drugs they seemingly take).

If this isn't enough of an argument for wrestling to have an "off season", I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]

I doubt it was for pain killers. I edited my previous post and added a 2nd post from the user.
 
[quote name='Graystone']Man I wonder what the "very strange" thing will be? I'm hoping there's a note explaining why. You just don't go and kill your 7 year old son for no reason. He could have suffered from severe depression, and hadn't take his meds.[/quote]

Doesn't killing your wife and your son and walking around in the house you share for two days before killing yourself seem "very strange?"
 
:cold: lets get this str8 this guy killed his little kid and wife and your giving him a memorial
Maybe rest in piss is more in order?
 
[quote name='Skelah']:cold: lets get this str8 this guy killed his little kid and wife and your giving him a memorial
Maybe rest in piss is more in order?[/QUOTE]

Umm, this thread was created before people knew what actually happened.
 
man its going to be hard to keep up in this thread throughout the day today.. im sure there will be a lot more news...


also to think.. who would want to live in that fucking house now
 
this whole thing sucks on every number of levels things can suck. thanks for the years of amazing entertainment, past that, i just dont know.
 
Boy, the wild-eyed theories REALLY came out of the woodwork last night, didn't they. Y'all just can't stop making shit up until the actual reports come out, can you?

As for "bong hits and metal pipes," whomever wrote that is (1) a very young child or (2) an adult with no personal experience or genuine awareness of what marijuana is and what it does to people. Anyone who suggests that pot drove Benoit to it needs to go back to their elementary school anti-drug program to discover what drugs do cause paranoia and hyperaggression.

I won't deny that Benoit may have been on drugs; after all, he *is* a wrestler, and fewer aren't doing them than are. However, to have had such a substantial impact on his personal life and attitude, we're no longer talking about marijuana.
 
anyway you look at it its just a real bad situation that no one wants to believe. Many people on here grew up watching benoit and know all about his legacy.. to "hear"this about someone they admired and respected for years is no doubt nerve wrecking...

in the end of the day... someone was definitely crazy or on something in that house...

Im sure everyday we could pick up a paper and read some crazy shit like this about random people.

If this is all true then you definitely have to lost respect for benoit as a person. But then again it doesnt really matter anymore. Such a great career will be forever tainted. Sad story indeed.
 
WTF!? WHY! I felt bad for this guy yesterday! So he went crazy, and he killed his wife and son. You know what really sucks? Wrestling is going to be misrepresented, as news casters will show that chris killed his family and then show clips of the WWE tribute of Chavo and company calling him a great man. Terrible.
 
off seasons would be nice..but it won't stop the steroid abuse or the painkiller addictions these people have...the biggest problem is that wrestlers, as a whole, get paid like shit so they can't afford an off-season..
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Anyone who suggests that pot drove Benoit to it needs to go back to their elementary school anti-drug program to discover what drugs do cause paranoia and hyperaggression.[/QUOTE]

That made no sense at all. So you're saying drugs can't be the cause of this?
 
[quote name='guyver2077']Many people on here grew up watching benoit and know all about his legacy.. to "hear"this about someone they admired and respected for years is no doubt nerve wrecking...[/quote]
I agree with that completely, and that's why I'm not participating in the "oh, I bet Nancy killed the son, and then Chris killed Nancy" bullshit. It's nerve-racking, certainly, but that's no excuse for playing the make-shit-up game.

Details are starting to come out, and we'll have more today; most all of it seems to implicate Benoit as the killer. Now, as a Benoit fan, I'm holding a lot more skepticism for this situation than I *ever* have before ('pleasedon'tletitbetruepleasedon'tletitbetrue' sort of thing). However, I have to deal with the fact that (1) we know very few details, (2) the authorities are doing an outstanding job protecting what information comes out when, and (3), when authorities release information, it's not as flippant and half-assed as it seems (that, if they say 'double-murder suicide' to the public, there is ample evidence to suggest it). Those facts make Chris Benoit look to be a different man than he was on television. That's, frankly, nothing new. However, I have to set aside the fact that this man was my single favorite wrestler of the past 10 years; my last giant mark-out moment involved him winning the WWE title; I enjoyed every match and feud he was in (with few exceptions).

ME being a FAN is immaterial to the facts, and does not change them at all. Despite my unhealthy skepticism about this, I have to be willing to accept that it was Benoit that did this, and avoid falling into foolish traps of sculpting nonsensical theories of what happened in order to paint a picture of Benoit as the good guy in the end. He very well may not be; if you can't accept that (and I mean the royal you, not you, guyver), then you need to step away from this story for a minute and go become an adult.

My desire to continue to adore Chris Benoit has not and will not affect how I perceive this. If conclusive evidence shows he was the murderer, then that's the reality of the situation. I won't live my life in denial of that, either before or after the evidence has come out.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled hair-brained notions of the Sasquatch being responsible. :roll:

[quote name='gokou36']That made no sense at all. So you're saying drugs can't be the cause of this?[/quote]

No, I said "go discover WHAT DRUGS cause paranoia and hyperaggression."

That's not marijuana, in other words. Not in the slightest
 
I tend to agree that, if true, (and definitely, from reports, it does seem that some things were true here) that I have a hard time giving Benoit a Memorial topic. I can't think of a situation where the best option is to kill yourself (except, possibly after you kill others), but , you should never take it out on your kid. That's a line. Had he only killed his wife, I'd say, give the story time and let it all come out. But, there is never a reason to kill your young child. I actually couldn't watch much of the memorial, as they kept flashing pictures of his kid, and I kept choking up. No child deserves that.

If he actually did that, I don't think I'll be able to watch a Benoit match again quite the same way. To know that he's a man that, given the right cirumstances, could choke is young child to death? Wow.
 
[quote name='help1']WTF!? WHY! I felt bad for this guy yesterday! So he went crazy, and he killed his wife and son. You know what really sucks? Wrestling is going to be misrepresented, as news casters will show that chris killed his family and then show clips of the WWE tribute of Chavo and company calling him a great man. Terrible.[/quote]

misrepresented...no...i see a witch hunt coming soon..
 
[quote name='DJSteel']off seasons would be nice..but it won't stop the steroid abuse or the painkiller addictions these people have...the biggest problem is that wrestlers, as a whole, get paid like shit so they can't afford an off-season..[/QUOTE]

Wasn't Brock Lesnar paid 75mil before he left them?
 
[quote name='level1online']was he on anti-depressants (ssri's)?[/quote]

I don't think anyone has that detail of information about his personal life.
 
[quote name='gokou36']Wasn't Brock Lesnar paid 75mil before he left them?[/quote]

I doubt it, but even if its true, what about all those lower wrestlers, like the hurricane and churchill?
 
[quote name='lordxixor101']I tend to agree that, if true, (and definitely, from reports, it does seem that some things were true here) that I have a hard time giving Benoit a Memorial topic. I can't think of a situation where the best option is to kill yourself (except, possibly after you kill others), but , you should never take it out on your kid. That's a line. Had he only killed his wife, I'd say, give the story time and let it all come out. But, there is never a reason to kill your young child. I actually couldn't watch much of the memorial, as they kept flashing pictures of his kid, and I kept choking up. No child deserves that.

If he actually did that, I don't think I'll be able to watch a Benoit match again quite the same way. To know that he's a man that, given the right cirumstances, could choke is young child to death? Wow.[/quote]

don't be so self righteous...can you watch nfl games the same way when you have ray lewis, rae carruth, etc...people do things..you let that define their life or their performances..you are no better than the press...
 
[quote name='gokou36']Wasn't Brock Lesnar paid 75mil before he left them?[/quote]

i said in General... yeah Brock and the top guys might have made a ton of dough...but the midcarders and jobbers aren't paid nearly enough to support a family...and they should be..
 
[quote name='gokou36']Wasn't Brock Lesnar paid 75mil before he left them?[/quote]

To be fair, the video clips on Benoit show that he has a NICE house. Very nice.

Now, of course, comes the falsehood: wrestlers make big bucks. It's a half-truth. Like in golf tournaments, the payoffs for top winners (1st through 3rd, maybe 4/5th places too) earn BIG checks.

After that, the dropoff is pretty substantial. So, a Benoit may make enough money for a house like that - but lower mid-card guys probably aren't making very much money at all. 70K is a LOT of money, but not factoring in hotels, planes, and rental cars 3-4 nights per week.
 
[quote name='DJSteel']don't be so self righteous...can you watch nfl games the same way when you have ray lewis, rae carruth, etc...people do things..you let that define their life or their performances..you are no better than the press...[/quote]

Uh, I have to disagree. I judge people on their actions on the whole, if you can't do that , then how do you suppose we characterize people? Also, it did sound that Chris was a bit abusive/ hard on his children from the memorial last night.
 
[quote name='DJSteel']as a whole of what?? what you see in the ring?? and what you see in the news??[/quote]

As a whole, inside the ring and off. Of course, I take into account what happens outside the ring more since what he does inside the ring is acting.
 
Im so fucking depressed with the current news. I just fucking want answers on the motive before i cast venom toward anyone. what a waste what a fucking waste
 
Hmm. Well if it does indeed become confirmed that he DID do it, I'll still have respect for him as a wrestler. Regardless of if the man is a looney toon or not, he was an amazing wrestler. Now as a man/person, we can spit his way..but I really don't think we can just let this situation (being an extremely tragic one..) ruin the fact that he was a GREAT wrestler.
[/2 cents]
 
[quote name='DJSteel']don't be so self righteous...can you watch nfl games the same way when you have ray lewis, rae carruth, etc...people do things..you let that define their life or their performances..you are no better than the press...[/QUOTE]

First off, if I'm no better than the press, so be it. Secondly, I have a hard time watching Ray Lewis, Ray Carruth, etc. I'm not sure how I'll feel as Tank Johnson and PacMan play again. I'm also not in the camp that I'm ok if they're helping my team win games (I like the Red Wings, but I wasn't thrilled when Bertuzzi was put on the team).

But, to my knowledge, I'm not sure any of them killed any kids either. I'm sorry, that's a pretty strong line right there. I'm not even saying their aren't circumstances where I could almost accept this (say, he was playing with his kid, and his kid accidently fell down the stairs and died, his wife freaks and charges him with a knife, he kills her in self defense, freaks out thinking about it, and kills himself. But, I just don't see that happening here. If it 's something like that, it's different, so far, it doesn't appear to be that way.

Sorry, your actions for one day cloud yourself. I'd much rather cheer for John Cena and all his in ring issues than for a Benoit, who was great at his job, but obvuously had some major personal issues.

If this makes me self righteous, so be it. I think people should have some sort of standards in their life, and I can't imagine Benoit's actions can be seen as alright by anyone.

Not sure this is the time and place to bring this up, but I think maybe it's time for the wrestling fans, as a whole, to push for the off-season. If the performers can't afford it, and you can't expect management to do it, and give up the money, then it comes to the fans. On some level, the fan that watches 52 weeks a year is culpable to some extent. If fans didn't watch it in the fall (say during football season), then it wouldn't be profitable for the company to work. There are also channels to put pressure on the company to do this, since they are publically owned. Not saying that I have the answers here (I can guarantee you that I don't), but I think maybe it's time, after everything settles down from the Benoit case, to at least have the discussion.
 
[quote name='help1']As a whole, inside the ring and off. Of course, I take into account what happens outside the ring more since what he does inside the ring is acting.[/quote]

how?? Do you live near him? look my whole point is that Chris Benoit could have a really really nice guy that got mixed up with steroids and abused them to the point where he became so depressed that he did what he supposedly did.. so you are going to let mistakes and weaknesses define the person??
 
[quote name='lordxixor101']First off, if I'm no better than the press, so be it. Secondly, I have a hard time watching Ray Lewis, Ray Carruth, etc. I'm not sure how I'll feel as Tank Johnson and PacMan play again. I'm also not in the camp that I'm ok if they're helping my team win games (I like the Red Wings, but I wasn't thrilled when Bertuzzi was put on the team).

But, to my knowledge, I'm not sure any of them killed any kids either. I'm sorry, that's a pretty strong line right there. I'm not even saying their aren't circumstances where I could almost accept this (say, he was playing with his kid, and his kid accidently fell down the stairs and died, his wife freaks and charges him with a knife, he kills her in self defense, freaks out thinking about it, and kills himself. But, I just don't see that happening here. If it 's something like that, it's different, so far, it doesn't appear to be that way.

Sorry, your actions for one day cloud yourself. I'd much rather cheer for John Cena and all his in ring issues than for a Benoit, who was great at his job, but obvuously had some major personal issues.

If this makes me self righteous, so be it. I think people should have some sort of standards in their life, and I can't imagine Benoit's actions can be seen as alright by anyone.

Not sure this is the time and place to bring this up, but I think maybe it's time for the wrestling fans, as a whole, to push for the off-season. If the performers can't afford it, and you can't expect management to do it, and give up the money, then it comes to the fans. On some level, the fan that watches 52 weeks a year is culpable to some extent. If fans didn't watch it in the fall (say during football season), then it wouldn't be profitable for the company to work. There are also channels to put pressure on the company to do this, since they are publically owned. Not saying that I have the answers here (I can guarantee you that I don't), but I think maybe it's time, after everything settles down from the Benoit case, to at least have the discussion.[/quote]

killing people is killing people...whether its a kid or not...and you are right about it being on 52 weeks a year.. but the truth is the majority of the wrestlers can't afford to take off much time..
 
I just found out about the deaths this morning. For a second I got really confused. I confused Chris Benoit with Chris Jericho.

I always found Benoit to be... well... a really bland character. He's one tough dude, but I never watched it for the fights, I always got a kick out of the drama and catch phrases. But I havent watched wrestling in like 10 years. So I'm assuming things have changed considerably, because back in the day, everyone hated Benoit's character.

Anyways, don't expect the "authorities" to have all the answers in regards to the murder. For all we know, they could have been in on it...

I mean, take a look at Columbine and Virginia Tech. At Virginia Tech, the place was already crawling with cops but were ordered to standdown, and at Columbine, SWAT waited 4 hours until they went in.

The reason why I brought up SSRI's in an earlier post was because some murder/suicide cases have involved individuals who were either hooked or recently taken off those drugs. ie: Columbine/Virginia Tech.
 
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