First Truth About the Homeless: Nobody Cares

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First Truth About the Homeless: Nobody Cares


By Douglas MacKinnon, Douglas MacKinnon was press secretary to former Sen. Bob Dole. Now an author, he was also a White House and Pentagon official.

"He was somebody's baby." That was my thought as I was walking to work and noticed a 40-something man digging through the trash can in front of my building. How do you go from being someone's child to digging through trash cans and begging on the streets for survival?

If we are going to be truly honest when discussing the homeless, then we have to first admit that virtually nobody really cares about them. Nobody.

Oh sure, at certain times, politicians will pretend to care if it will play on the heartstrings of undecided voters. Some newspapers will run a story, either to demonstrate to their readers that they are good citizens or because there might be a Pulitzer Prize down the road.

Then, of course, what about us? The "un-homeless." What is our reaction to those we see begging and living on the street? For the most part, we shun them, we run from them and we avoid eye contact at all costs. Every once in a while, we drop a quarter or a dollar bill into their cups and hope God notices the gesture.

There is nothing wrong with any of those reactions. It's human nature to fear or run from what we don't understand.

As the child of two alcoholic parents, I found myself homeless a number of times. My entire childhood was spent living well below the poverty line, and yet, as an adult, I exhibit many of the reactions mentioned above.

For the most part, people just don't understand the homeless, how they got there or how to help them. As the old joke goes, "A recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose yours."

There are a lot of "depressed" homeless people out there, yet the very tragedy of their existence does not enlighten even them with the solution to their misery. Why? Because there are no easy answers.

If we are going to be honest about the homeless, then we also have to admit that many are beyond any real help or hope. A large number of the homeless suffer from drug addiction and/or alcoholism, are mentally challenged or have decided to escape from the bounds of "normal" society.

Leaving that number aside, however, our nation does have an obligation to help the rest. It is criminally obscene for us to let one child go hungry for even one night in our country. Surely in an era when we have multiple bidders for million-dollar homes, we can figure out how to feed a malnourished child.

To do so, however, the political games must stop. The poor and the homeless are continually used as disposable pawns to be sacrificed in the defense of partisan rhetoric by those who hope to capitalize on their anguish. Who is guilty of such abuse? Republicans, Democrats, liberals, conservatives and the media.

Leaving such vile partisan tactics aside, the fact is the Bush administration is spending billions of dollars to fund housing and service programs around the country for the homeless and poverty-stricken. The fact is there still are too many Republicans who see the homeless as a problem for the Democrats. The fact is corporate America could do much more then it is doing now. The fact is the media could shine a much brighter spotlight on the issue.

We all could do more, but before that can happen, we have to accept that we can only save those who can and want to be saved. Period. The dilemma becomes: What kind of resources can we marshal? Who, aside from the children, are truly savable? And when can we have an honest debate on the issue?

The homeless are not some subhuman background noise to be ignored on our way to an appointment, but people who, for whatever reason, have been relegated to the lowest rung in society.

Life has taken their hopes, their dreams and family, but basic human dignity is a right that should never be stripped away — because they once were somebody's baby.

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This has always been a tough issue. Some homeless don't want help. Others do. IMO the only thing to do as of right now is to at least provide temporary shelters, especially those with children, until the adults get jobs. Then cities would need to provide low-income housing until some of these families get back on their feet. If the adults can't do that, then the children need to be taken into custody of the state. But again, it's a tough issue.

This actually reminds me of a book I just got done reading last week called "Knight of the Word" which focused heavily on these issues, and about how the public doesn't care. It's the second book in a three-series book (Running with the Demon & Angel Fire East are the others, all written by Terry Brooks from the Shannara fame).
 
I was involved with a group in college that got arrested helping the homeless. I wasn't involved with that particular subgroup of it though. They took over some abandoned building and fixed them up so that homeless people could live in them, then, in the process, somehow the owner of the abandoned building found out and had them arrested for breaking into them and trespassing. This was also one of the reasons the school eventually pulled funding for the group.

Though I do think it's wrong when people try to avoid them, they don't have to pay any attention or give them money, but obviously trying to avoid them is rude. I usually only give money if they're nice and not pushy. Though I have had a few interesting conversations with them, and there is one guy I used to talk to a lot in harvard square.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I was involved with a group in college that got arrested helping the homeless. I wasn't involved with that particular subgroup of it though. They took over some abandoned building and fixed them up so that homeless people could live in them, then, in the process, somehow the owner of the abandoned building found out and had them arrested for breaking into them and trespassing. This was also one of the reasons the school eventually pulled funding for the group. [/quote]

Yeah that whole squatting and theft of private property is just so unpleasant.

[quote name='alonzomourning23']Though I do think it's wrong when people try to avoid them, they don't have to pay any attention or give them money, but obviously trying to avoid them is rude.[/quote]

You, sir, have clearly never been on a subway when one of these mongrels asks for money.

[quote name='alonzomourning23']I usually only give money if they're nice and not pushy. Though I have had a few interesting conversations with them, and there is one guy I used to talk to a lot in harvard square.[/QUOTE]

Well aren't you the Miss Manner's of Homeless Assistance.

CTL
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I was involved with a group in college that got arrested helping the homeless. I wasn't involved with that particular subgroup of it though. They took over some abandoned building and fixed them up so that homeless people could live in them, then, in the process, somehow the owner of the abandoned building found out and had them arrested for breaking into them and trespassing. This was also one of the reasons the school eventually pulled funding for the group.

Though I do think it's wrong when people try to avoid them, they don't have to pay any attention or give them money, but obviously trying to avoid them is rude. I usually only give money if they're nice and not pushy. Though I have had a few interesting conversations with them, and there is one guy I used to talk to a lot in harvard square.[/QUOTE]

You're lying. There are no homeless people in Boston.
 
[quote name='Rich']You're lying. There are no homeless people in Boston.[/QUOTE]

They're all over, you've never been to boston if you think that. They just don't look nearly as bad as those in chicago or toronto, probably due to the extensive network of shelters, food kitchens etc. around here. Chicago was absolutely horrendous, it's been 5 years since I went and I still remember 4 or 5 different homeless people from there, one of which even helped me find the subway when 2 other peoples directions just got me lost (I gave him money after, but he didn't ask though I know he assumed I would).

Though the housing takeover one took place in toronto (though, again, I had no part in it).

You, sir, have clearly never been on a subway when one of these mongrels asks for money.

Funny, cause I don't hate the same people you hate then that must mean I just don't know any better. I've had them yell at me for not giving anything (a few times they didn't even recognize that I gave them money 10 minutes earlier) and all sorts of things. But I've also had others who I've had conversations with, who actually remembered me days after I first saw them, there are also some who just sit there with a cup, don't say anything unless you initiate, don't verbally beg, don't get pushy etc.

eah that whole squatting and theft of private property is just so unpleasant.

It's not like it was going to be used for anything, it was permanently abandoned. I'm not saying it wasn't illegal, but it's not like they were going to be used for anything else, they were just going to sit there vacant.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']CTLesq with PMS = a living hell

Maybe you could do us a favor and unplug your computer a few days each month?[/QUOTE]


Preferably unplug the computer when your updating your BIOS.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Funny, cause I don't hate the same people you hate then that must mean I just don't know any better. I've had them yell at me for not giving anything (a few times they didn't even recognize that I gave them money 10 minutes earlier) and all sorts of things. But I've also had others who I've had conversations with, who actually remembered me days after I first saw them, there are also some who just sit there with a cup, don't say anything unless you initiate, don't verbally beg, don't get pushy etc.[/quote]

And, so what? Seriously. You have met some polite beggars. Those people aren't the issue. The ones that get in your face or live and urinate under your appartment window are.


[quote name='alonzomourning23']It's not like it was going to be used for anything, it was permanently abandoned. I'm not saying it wasn't illegal, but it's not like they were going to be used for anything else, they were just going to sit there vacant.[/QUOTE]

Well I am not at my apartment right now so I guess anyone who wants to use it should be free to. You have no idea if they were premeantly abandonded and given that adverse possession takes about 17 years and the homeless were thrown out by the owners within that period I guess they weren't permeantly abandoned.

[quote name='Quackzilla']CTLesq with PMS = a living hell

Maybe you could do us a favor and unplug your computer a few days each month?[/quote]

Maybe.
 
You know a good beggar can make $100,000 a year tax free (unreported, of course).

They are not all hungry, and some are not even homeless.
 
*blink*

Wait, the crazy conservative is posting about how nobody cares about the homeless, and the crazy liberal is posting that the homeless shouldn't/don't need to be taken care of? Did I get up on the wrong side of the bed today and wind up in an alternative backwards universe?
 
[quote name='Drocket']*blink*

Wait, the crazy conservative is posting about how nobody cares about the homeless, and the crazy liberal is posting that the homeless shouldn't/don't need to be taken care of? Did I get up on the wrong side of the bed today and wind up in an alternative backwards universe?[/QUOTE]

But to top it all off Quackzilla will engage in heterosexual sex for the first time.

CTL
 
[quote name='CTLesq']And, so what? Seriously. You have met some polite beggars. Those people aren't the issue. The ones that get in your face or live and urinate under your appartment window are. [/quote]

They are just as much of an issue as the jerk who pushed me out the subway door, the jerk who shouted at me for wearing a political pin, and the jerk at best buy.




Well I am not at my apartment right now so I guess anyone who wants to use it should be free to. You have no idea if they were premeantly abandonded and given that adverse possession takes about 17 years and the homeless were thrown out by the owners within that period I guess they weren't permeantly abandoned.

Ya, like what I said is so similar to you temporarily being out of your apartment :roll:. The homeless people weren't thrown out, the people who tried to fix up the place a bit for them were, and it was permanently abandoned, it was not useable in it's current condition by any paying tennants. If you go to toronto you can still see the building, completely vacant and broken down.

And your gay joke sucked.
 
There are people who work in soup kitchens and shelters. But yeah, 99.9% of everyone (including all politicians) mostly don't give a crap.
 
A lot of the people who "help" at shelters and soup kitchens do it to show how good they are, to do the "right thing", to do god's work etc. It's not helping a fellow human being through a tough time, it's helping "them" cause they feel that's the good thing to do.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']They are just as much of an issue as the jerk who pushed me out the subway door, the jerk who shouted at me for wearing a political pin, and the jerk at best buy. [/quote]

Well a free pass to all the homeless to do anything they want! I guess any single person acting like an idiot gives license to all others?


[quote name='alonzomourning23']
Ya, like what I said is so similar to you temporarily being out of your apartment :roll:. The homeless people weren't thrown out, the people who tried to fix up the place a bit for them were, and it was permanently abandoned, it was not useable in it's current condition by any paying tennants. If you go to toronto you can still see the building, completely vacant and broken down.[/quote]

And - who cares. The owners have every right to do anything or nothing with their property as they see fit. Your argument is just wrong.

[quote name='alonzomourning23']And your gay joke sucked.[/QUOTE]

Did Quackzilla PM you and ask you to say that? My joke was quite amusing.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']A lot of the people who "help" at shelters and soup kitchens do it to show how good they are, to do the "right thing", to do god's work etc. It's not helping a fellow human being through a tough time, it's helping "them" cause they feel that's the good thing to do.[/QUOTE]

And also to add another item on their college applications and/or resumes. ;)
 
Hmm, now that I think about it, I had to volunteer in a soup kitchen as part of a punishment for getting in trouble in collge.
 
If it takes incentives to get people to volunteer, then I don't mind the reasons that people do work for others.

In such an individualistic society, it's almost necessary for people to be goaded (through college or through Jebus) into work. I don't care for the "selfish" argument, because, at some fundamental level, people do what makes them feel good, regardless of whether Jebus or their liberal guilt told them to do it (and in my case, it's the latter).

myke.
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']And also to add another item on their college applications and/or resumes. ;)[/QUOTE]

Ya, people do that too. I'm not saying all these people aren't useful, it's just they aren't in it for the right reasons. They're in it just to feel or look good, not to make things better for the other people.

Well a free pass to all the homeless to do anything they want! I guess any single person acting like an idiot gives license to all others?

When was you last comment about all sales clerks, or all subway riders etc.?

And - who cares. The owners have every right to do anything or nothing with their property as they see fit. Your argument is just wrong.

Like you to tell me what my argument is. My argument that there was nothing morally wrong with what they did, actually I'm only now stating that. My only argument before was that the building was abandoned, it wasn't and isn't a legal argument.

Did Quackzilla PM you and ask you to say that? My joke was quite amusing.

Normally good jokes don't require praise from the one who tells them.
 
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