Hannity guest to unveil damning evidence against Obama tonight?

[quote name='Msut77']I think Myke tried this a few months ago. Odds are you will be sorely disappointed,[/quote]

I'm an intelligent American, I'm always sorely disappointed.

~HotShotX
 
[quote name='HotShotX']I'm an intelligent American, I'm always sorely disappointed.

~HotShotX[/QUOTE]

Anyhoo just so you know you will hear nothing but reiterations of how Obama is a commie ignoring the fact that A) it is a baseless insult born of utter madness and B) the way these idiots define it literally everyone is a commie.
 
[quote name='Ruined']Your question is nonsensical. The issues are the most important thing in a presidential race, and sometimes picking the lesser of two evils is what the American people are left with. Just like how many voted for Kerry just so they didn't vote for Bush because they disliked Bush's platform so much. If Obama has a really poor stance on several key issues, it would make sense to prefer/vote for the other candidate because you dislike or fear the potential effects of Obama's policies so much.
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This is my big point too. I personally do not know anyone that has voted for a presidential candidate that they have liked and strongly believed in since MAYBE Reagan.

Every election since the 90's, for most people, has NOT been about voting for a candidate you like. It's been about doing whatever shameful things you have to do in a voting booth out of fear of a particular candidate/party/agenda.

People more and more vote against candidates than for.
 
[quote name='HotShotX']Tell you what, let's assume the following:

Obama is:

1. A Muslim.
2. Had communist/socialist mentors (and we'll go so far as to assume he actually agrees with their logic, like you expect us to).
3. Knew what Rev. Wright was preaching.

and just to make things interesting,

4. Let's say it's been confirmed that Obama eats babies after they've been dipped in the blood of a goat 3-4 times a week.

Now, without making any direct/indirect comparison to Obama (i.e. Obama is inexperienced, John McCain isn't), let's hear why John McCain will make a better President of the United States of America, preferably with some examples.

~HotShotX[/quote]\

Because with Mccain I know that when i'm his age my insurance will cover the viagra I'd use to impregnant all the women I can as Birth Control isn't used to fix a "medical condition" and therefore under Mccain logic doesn't have to be covered by insurance.
 
[quote name='HotShotX']I'm an intelligent American, I'm always sorely disappointed.

~HotShotX[/QUOTE]

A bit pretentious maybe? :)

As an intelligent American I'm sure you are aware that multiple people can be correct or have a valid stance in a given instance. And with that intelligence I am finding it difficult that you cannot comprehend why "lesser of two evils" is just as valid as "best man." In either case you are determining the "best man," in one case by his merits, in the other case by his opponent's demerits. Neither is necessarily better than the other when you are forced to pick from a set 2-3 candidates.

Also, in my experience truly intelligent individuals know the value of being humble...

I find it interesting how some on this board will brand you as "right wing nutjob" and whatnot if you do not follow the mainstream media's line of thinking/Obama's excuse of the week. Or if you don't post an "Obama r0x0rz!" graphic when he is questioned. I consider myself an economic conservative but socially somewhat liberal. I believe in things like abortion and the right for homosexuals to be able to have union similar to marriage (with the same economic benefits), while on the other hand I firmly do not believe in redistribution of wealth and I think national healthcare is a hideously poor idea. Looking at the two candidates, McCain is looking to be much more in line with my views than Obama. McCain seems somewhat moderate, while Obama is far in left field. McCain being pro-drilling is a HUGE point in his court at the moment, too. Blaming people or forcing people to change is the wrong approach, and one I feel is fueled by environmental activist lobbyists.
 
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[quote name='Ruined'] Neither is necessarily better than the other when you are forced to pick from a set 2-3 candidates.[/quote]

No one forces you to vote for one of 2-3 candidates. You can write-in whom ever you chose.
 
I have GROUNDBREAKING news that will lead to Obama not winning!



It's HUGE!!!



His skin isn't light whitish!

:roll:
 
[quote name='HotShotX']So what was that damning evidence that this thread was about?

~HotShotX[/QUOTE]

According to the right-wing PR mailing list I'm on (don't ask), it's this:

BOOK LINKS OBAMA TO MASSACRE OF CHRISTIANS

Senator's continuing ally launches genocidal tribal violence

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

U.S. Sen. Barack Obama has continued to support Kenya's Raila Odinga, even after Odinga has been blamed for inciting tribal violence and slaughtering Christians, according to an explosive new book written by WND senior staff reporter Jerome R. Corsi.

In "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality," Corsi argues that Odinga's protests following his loss to U.S.-backed Mwai Kibaki in Kenya's 2007 presidential election led to a wave of tribal and religious violence aimed against Kibaki's majority Kikuyu tribe.

The violence Obama's ally was blamed for included the slaughter of some 50 Pentecostal Christians.

As WND reported earlier, during his first visit to Kenya as a U.S. Senator in 2006, Obama openly campaigned for Odinga, to the point where Kenyan government spokesman Alfred Mutua accused Obama of meddling inappropriately in Kenyan presidential politics. Mutua charged during a television news video that Obama had become a "stooge" to Odinga during the Kenyan presidential election campaign. Obama's father belonged to the same Luo tribe as Odinga.

In the disputed Dec. 27, 2007, presidential vote, Odinga charged he was denied winning the presidency by voter fraud.

After the election, Odinga pressed for a power-sharing arrangement in which he would be the prime minister in a government where Kibaki was president, with the two factions sharing a 50-50 power split in the cabinet.

Odinga's claim led to widespread fighting that killed more than 1,000 people in the weeks after the election, leaving more than 350,000 Kenyans displaced.

While proving involvement is difficult, many in Kenya assumed the post-election violence was supported, if not organized, behind the scenes by Odinga and his Orange Democratic Movement party.

In a horrifying incident following the election, at least 50 people, including women and children, were killed when an angry mob forced Kikuyu Christians into an Assemblies of God Pentecostal church and set fire to the church, hacking with machetes any of the Christians who tried to escape the flames.

The violence occurred in the village of Eldoret, about 185 miles northwest of Nairobi. The massacre in the church was part of youth gang violence aimed at harassing the Kikuyu Christian minority, which before the election numbered around 20 percent of Eldoret's 500,000 people.

After the church burning, the vast majority of Eldoret’s Kikuyu Christian minority fled the city, in fear of their lives.

A Reuters video documented the Eldoret church massacre:

Christian missionaries report over 300 Christian churches were severely damaged or destroyed in the violence that swept the country, but mosques were left undisturbed.

Another horrific report came from the Telegram in London, reporting the wave of post-election violence involved members of President Kibaki's Kikuyu tribe being attacked in Nairobi slums by ethnic groups including gangs of Luo tribe youth and men who were engaging in gang rapes of women and sodomizing boys as young as five years of age.

The Telegraph reported the vast majority of the victims were assaulted in their homes and all had been targeted because of their Kikuyu tribe membership.

Mobs slashed their way into homes, attacking everyone they found with machetes and clubs. Youths raped women in front of their husbands and many wives were then dragged from their homes and killed.

In the final days of the New Hampshire Democratic Party primary, after the post-election violence in Kenya, Obama told reporters he had telephoned Raila Odinga by telephone.

Obama sided with Odinga, indicating Odinga was willing to meet with Kibaki.

"Obviously he [Odinga] believes that the votes were not tallied properly," Obama told reporters, almost as if he were running for election in Kenya. "But what I urged was that all the leaders there, regardless of their position on the election, tell their supporters to stand down, to desist with the violence and resolve it in a peaceful way with Kenyan laws."

Reporters asked if Obama had telephoned Kenyan President Kibaki.

"I have not spoken to President Kibaki as yet," the senator answered, "but I hope to get in touch with him some time soon. I want to see if I can be helpful."

It is unclear whether Obama ever spoke with Kibaki, after a rough initial meeting during Obama’s 2006 Kenyan trip.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

Jerome R. Corsi received a Ph.D. from Harvard University in political science in 1972 and has written many books and articles, including the No. 1 New York Times bestseller Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry. His latest bestseller was The Late Great USA: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada. He is a senior staff reporter for WorldNetDaily.com and the author of two books on contemporary Iran: Atomic Iran and Showdown with Nuclear Iran. In his 2005 book, Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil, which he coauthored with Craig R. Smith, Dr. Corsi predicted oil prices at over $100 a barrel.

THE OBAMA NATION
BY JEROME R. CORSI, PH.D.
THRESHOLD EDITIONS
AUGUST 1ST, 2008
ISBN: 1-4165-9806-5; $28.00
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[quote name='HotShotX']So what was that damning evidence that this thread was about?

~HotShotX[/QUOTE]

The book's flap summarizes the evidence researched, which is detailed within the book:

[quote name='The Obama Nation']Barack Obama stepped onto the national political stage when the then-Illinois State senator addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Soon after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, author Jerome Corsi began researching Obamas personal and political background.

Scrupulously sourced with more than 600 footnotes, THE OBAMA NATION is the result of that research. By tracing Obamas career and influences from his early years in Hawaii and Indonesia, the beginnings of his political career in Chicago, his voting record in the Illinois legislature, his religious training and his adoption of Christianity through to his recent involvement in Kenyan politics, his political advisors and fundraising associates and his meteoric campaign for president, Jerome Corsi shows that an Obama presidency would, in his words, be a repeat of the failed extremist politics that have characterized and plagued Democratic Party politics since the late 1960s.

In this stunning and comprehensive new book, the reader will learn about: -Obamas extensive connections with Islam and radical politics, from his father and step-fathers Islamic backgrounds, to his Communist and socialist mentors in Hawaii and Chicago, to his long-term and close associations with former Weather Underground heroes William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrnassociations much closer than heretofore revealed by the press
-Barack and Michelles 20-year-long religious affiliation with the black-liberation theology of former Trinity United Church of Christ Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have always been steeped in a rage first expressed by Franz Fanon , Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X, a rage that Corsi shows has deep meaning for Obama
-Obamas continuing connections with Kenya, the homeland of his father, through his support for the candidacy of Raila Odinga, the radical socialist presidential contender who came to power amid Islamist violence and church burnings
-Obamas involvement in the slum-landlord empire of the Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko, who helped to bankroll Obamas initial campaigns and to purchase of Barack and Michelles dream-home property.
-the background and techniques of the Obama campaigns cult of personality, including the derivation of the words hope and change
-Obamas far-left domestic policy, his controversial votes on abortion, his history of opposition to the Second Amendment, his determination to raise capital-gains taxes, his impractical plan to achieve universal health care, and his radical plan to tax Americans to fund a global-poverty-reduction program
-Obamas naïve, anti-war, anti-nuclear foreign-policy, predicated on the reduction of the military, the eradication of nuclear weapons and an overconfidence in the power of his personality, as if belief in change alone could somehow transform international politics, achieve nuclear-weapons disarmament and withdrawal from Iraq without adverse consequences, for us, for the Iraqis or for Israel.

Meticulously researched and documented, THE OBAMA NATION is the definitive source for information on why and how Barack Obama must be defeatednot by invective and general attacks, but by detailed arguments that are well-researched and fact-based. [/quote]

Just because you didn't see it on the evening news doesn't mean its not true :)
 
[quote name='Ruined']The book's flap summarizes the evidence researched, which is detailed within the book:



Just because you didn't see it on the evening news doesn't mean its not true :)[/QUOTE]

Again...

[quote name='mykevermin']Really?

no, Really?!?!?[/QUOTE]

I mean, it's one thing to say that you don't like Obama for any number of reasons, or you disagree with his policy proposals (you know, the ones you don't know a thing about when you're too busy traipsing amidst the muckrakers) - but let's get away from this guilt by indirect, indirect, indirect, indirect, indirect, indirect association.

Just because I can connect Jerome Corsi to Kevin Bacon in six steps, that doesn't mean they're co-conspirators of bad taste. That's just coincidence.
 
Definitely no story.

Think about it. Obama is the first black nominee, and just ran probably the longest and hardest fought primary campaign in history against one of the most powerful political families.

If he had major scandals in his past (or currently) they would have came out long before now.
 
Meticulously researched and documented, THE OBAMA NATION is the definitive source for information on why and how Barack Obama must be defeated not by invective and general attacks, but by detailed arguments that are well-researched and fact-based.
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Outright the most laughable quote to read after all the horseshit that preceded it.

I mean, it's one thing to say that you don't like Obama for any number of reasons, or you disagree with his policy proposals (you know, the ones you don't know a thing about when you're too busy traipsing amidst the muckrakers) - but let's get away from this guilt by indirect, indirect, indirect, indirect, indirect, indirect association.
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Seriously, it's been months since Obama has locked in the nomination and the best arguments we can get as to why he shouldn't be President is because of the people that were in his past?

I know they've had an easy ride destroying the Constitution and all for the past 8 years, but surely a few Republican supporters can offer up some legitimate reason as to why Obama's policies are weak other than "OMG HES A MUSLIM!!1" or "OMG HE'S A RADICAL!"

Because if that's the best you've got, a "Radical Muslim" is going to kick your ass come November, good fucking job.

Also, how far from "Radical" is "Maverick", exactly?

~HotShotX
 
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200808050004

If this guy's m.o. is to claim that he's absolutely right in his remarks that he can claim Obama did not dedicate his first book to any of his parents because the dedication was in the introduction and not a separate dedication page (that's in both editions, mind you), then I'm willing to bet that there are maybe 1, 2, 3, or maybe (likely) more errors and intentional mistruths in his book.

Wow. Parsing between an introduction and a dedication page in order to claim that you're right that there was no dedication. Just the fuckin' beacon of journalistic integrity, the semantic prick.

Not that it's gonna stop y'all knuckleheads from believing everything in the book. After all, some of y'all are the same knuckleheads that managed to view an intelligent Massachusetts senator who SERVED IN THE fuckING WAR as an effete elite wimp when compared to the stoic macho-tastic sensationalism of the OTHER GUY WHO BAILED ON THE fuckING ALABAMY NATIONAL GUARD and all the bravery that he managed to show.

Y'all make me giggle sometimes, but that usually stops when I realize that (1) you're dead serious in your idiocy and (2) you vote.
 
The whole argument from Corsi's side reminds me of the old Kahn's hot dog advertisements they played at Riverfront Stadium during Red's games between innings.

"It's a hot dog!"
"It's a smoked sausage!"
"It's a HOT DOG!"
"It's a SMOKED SAUSAGE!"
"IT'S A HOT DO
 
I'd really feel terrible if this happened again. More importantly, is FoxNews - and other organizations mentioned in this thread - so discredited that the campaign can afford not to respond?
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I'm going to have to go against my better judgement and publicly agree with mykevermin here. There is no story here.[/quote]

I believe this is the first sign of the Apocalypse :hot:
 
[quote name='Xevious']I believe this is the first sign of the Apocalypse :hot:[/QUOTE]
Don't cash your chips just yet...

[quote name='mykevermin']
Y'all make me giggle sometimes, but that usually stops when I realize that (1) you're dead serious in your idiocy and (2) you vote.[/QUOTE]

You do realize you just quoted mediamatters as part of an actual serious argument? C'mon now. Really? Really? ;)

At least post Soros links after your done typing, so we're more apt to take the bulk of the post seriously.
 
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Actually I did, I just wanted to give you a hard time for even linking to there. But don't worry, i acknowledge the fact that I've quoted Michael Savage in the past, so I would be a hypocrite if I made too big of a deal out of it.
 
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