[quote name='dohdough']So in other words, strikes had nothing to do with those plant closings.
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Are you really this dense? The strikes had everything to do with the entire operation shutting down. Those plants were scheduled to close unless the company could get things together. The workers went on strike knowing this, and the management pulled the plug. The unions were warned, they chose to ignore these warnings, and they got fired.
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Sounds more like victim blaming to me. But no, let's put a disproportionate amount of blame on the unions for making concession after concession while management is still
ing everything up while making bank.
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No one is putting a disproportionate amount of blame on anyone here but yourself. BOTH parties are to blame here. FYI, the unions didn't make a single concession. There was no agreement met. They flat out didn't negotiate and went on strike. The end.
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And unions are the only ones that need to make concessions? Why is there no blame on management to further negotiate? Why is the onus on the unions?
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Who says there is no blame for the management? Do you not understand what the word BOTH means? BOTH. THE TWO PARTIES INVOLVED. Both are to blame.
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Workers are
ed and management walks away with millions. Or maybe I'd just rather be "cool" and hate on corporations because hating on unions is somehow more legit.[/QUOTE]
Millions? Get your head out of your ass. Managers working at that company didn't walk away with anything but a pink slip. Currently the investors only stand to gain anything if they can find a buyer. The investors also put up their money initially and they should be entitled to the first cut of the profit of the sale of assets.
[quote name='dohdough']How the
is it that the people that completely
ed the company are less responsible than unions for the ultimate outcome of this? [/Quote]
Calm down Betsy. No one is saying that anyone is less responsible here. BOTH parties are to blame. It really doesn't matter who is "more to blame" here. 18,500 people are out of a job now because of this.
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You think that making a shit load of money would some how satiate them enough into not trying to make more? Sorry, but I'm not looking to buy a bridge today and I can't do the mental loops to blame the unions for losing jobs that management already put on the chopping block.
Oh and management!=company.[/QUOTE]
Where exactly do you think they are making a "shit load of money" in this? The company has been in trouble for years. Investors have lost a lot of capital over this time period. You're cynical as
if you think investment managers went into this thing wanting it to fail, just so they could sell off the assets and make "shit tons of money" at the cost of union jobs.