Nintendo 21 - Nintendos new system's name?

[quote name='Chris in Cali']Like I said, 1985 is when the NES came out so if the next Nintendo system is released in 2006 that'll be 21 years.[/quote]

Thats more or less what i was getting at. Thats why i said "Video Games" :)

It would be kind of confusing owning a Nintendo 64 and a Nintendo 21...Maybe its a count down...
 
[quote name='Wshakspear'][quote name='Chris in Cali']Like I said, 1985 is when the NES came out so if the next Nintendo system is released in 2006 that'll be 21 years.[/quote]

Thats more or less what i was getting at. Thats why i said "Video Games" :)

It would be kind of confusing owning a Nintendo 64 and a Nintendo 21...Maybe its a count down...[/quote]


I still think that if this is real, it's just the developement name. Revolution just sounds more maketable, plus Nintendo themselves keep saying it.
 
[quote name='epobirs']The double-sided disc format fires off my bullshit sensors. What is the point of yet another proprietary format after the poor recption it got on the GameCube. The description implies the drive would be capable of reading both sides without user intervention. This is the only reason such a disc would require a caddy and forego a simpler format that reserves one side for artwork and titling. It isn't as those they're starved for capcity. You can count all of the GameCube games that didn't manage to squeeze into a single 1.5 GB disc without resorting to a second disc.

The GameCube format, being a DVD derivative, is already double sided but is never used that way, just as the Xbox and PS2 DVDs are never used to their fullest capacity in place of artwork and titles on the top side. Putting a second disc in the package is much too cheap to forego the aesthetic and anti-piracy qualites of silkscreened discs.

By the same reason it would be nuts to put a drive capable of reading both sides of the disc in a game system. This would add cost to every single unit of the console produced even though there is no likelihood that more than a handful of games would ever need the capacity.

Some may be inclined to say the caddy is needed due to it being a high density format but for what goal? Not capacity for games, as I've already discussed. Video playback? Does anyone believe Nintendo would try to float their own video format when companies firmly established as vendors in that field are already in a growing format war?

I really wish the hoaxsters would put more thought into this stuff.[/quote]

The art and titling would be on the shell casing.

That said, this just looks like a bad drawing of every rumor that's been floating around so far. We'll just need to wait for E3, though.
 
Maybe it's a trick. Maybe it was meant to be Nintendo 12, and since this will be the 12th system according to that earlier post, it will be a contest and whoever gets it first and tells Nintendo, they get a prize.

What d'ya mean, no?
 
[quote name='goergegavin']Maybe it's a trick. Maybe it was meant to be Nintendo 12, and since this will be the 12th system according to that earlier post, it will be a contest and whoever gets it first and tells Nintendo, they get a prize.

What d'ya mean, no?[/quote]

I think he's on to something. You read Japanese from right to left right!?
 
I am surprised no one is talking about the revolutionary "Nintendo House" stuff. It's really a monumental idea, and I feel Nintendo thinks it's their right to revolutionize the industry, and thank God for that! We all need a new way to play, and nintendo is taking it's time to make us gamers expand into a deepr more connected world.

Ever since nintendo released their DS I have been totally impressed by what they are doing. I think Sony and M$ are getting "stuck" standardizing and cloning everything.

Is anyone as excited about this (no matter how fake it may be)?
 
[quote name='evilmax17'][quote name='goergegavin']Maybe it's a trick. Maybe it was meant to be Nintendo 12, and since this will be the 12th system according to that earlier post, it will be a contest and whoever gets it first and tells Nintendo, they get a prize.

What d'ya mean, no?[/quote]

I think he's on to something. You read Japanese from right to left right!?[/quote]

No.
 
[quote name='CrashSpyro123'][quote name='evilmax17'][quote name='goergegavin']Maybe it's a trick. Maybe it was meant to be Nintendo 12, and since this will be the 12th system according to that earlier post, it will be a contest and whoever gets it first and tells Nintendo, they get a prize.

What d'ya mean, no?[/quote]

I think he's on to something. You read Japanese from right to left right!?[/quote]

No.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure you read it up-to-down and right-to-left.
 
[quote name='evilmax17'][quote name='CrashSpyro123'][quote name='evilmax17'][quote name='goergegavin']Maybe it's a trick. Maybe it was meant to be Nintendo 12, and since this will be the 12th system according to that earlier post, it will be a contest and whoever gets it first and tells Nintendo, they get a prize.

What d'ya mean, no?[/quote]

I think he's on to something. You read Japanese from right to left right!?[/quote]

No.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure you read it up-to-down and right-to-left.[/quote]

Then you're just reading gibberish.
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']Like I said, 1985 is when the NES came out so if the next Nintendo system is released in 2006 that'll be 21 years.[/quote]

But it came out in Japan in ~83, which defeats that idea.

The world doesn't revolve around America.
 
all they did was add more sides to a Game Cube, They should call it Game Octagon now. Also you only read japanese right to left if it's written veritcally.

The art looks more like a concept sketch that someone came up with after putting tgether other rumors he heard. I could be a little true but I could have come up with the same thing if I bothered. (though my japanese is really crusty).

I think rather than dual sided they might be double density. 8cm, 5.4gb disks interesting.
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']I am surprised no one is talking about the revolutionary "Nintendo House" stuff. It's really a monumental idea, and I feel Nintendo thinks it's their right to revolutionize the industry, and thank God for that! We all need a new way to play, and nintendo is taking it's time to make us gamers expand into a deepr more connected world.

Ever since nintendo released their DS I have been totally impressed by what they are doing. I think Sony and M$ are getting "stuck" standardizing and cloning everything.

Is anyone as excited about this (no matter how fake it may be)?[/quote]

I hear ya. It sounds pretty cool and all, but I just don't see what the big advantage of doing it this way opposed to just using the standard online gaming and updating.
 
on the 8cm disk, I think because it's an inclosed disk in a shell, that might make it more attractive to them.

I dont know if the "house" things works... I mean basically it's just a games system with a cell phone in it... which you'd likely have to pay a monthly fee for.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='RelentlessRolento']I am surprised no one is talking about the revolutionary "Nintendo House" stuff. It's really a monumental idea, and I feel Nintendo thinks it's their right to revolutionize the industry, and thank God for that! We all need a new way to play, and nintendo is taking it's time to make us gamers expand into a deepr more connected world.

Ever since nintendo released their DS I have been totally impressed by what they are doing. I think Sony and M$ are getting "stuck" standardizing and cloning everything.

Is anyone as excited about this (no matter how fake it may be)?[/quote]

I hear ya. It sounds pretty cool and all, but I just don't see what the big advantage of doing it this way opposed to just using the standard online gaming and updating.[/quote]

Look at it this way: YOu start playing Final Fantasy for the Nintendo 21 and suddenly it states on screen "Jeremy001 wishes to play with you". SO you allow him, to play along with you and you have a great time. Near the end of the game day you ask where he lives, and he says hes at [whatever adress]. You realize he's 2 houses away from you. You both meet up the next day (in person) and soon become friends.

That way may sound dumb, but it's pretty cool. It's like a community within a community, wheras the internet is just a community. You have a friend online who lives in germany who you know you will never meet in person, but with N21 people are actually more accesable.... whatever. I see what you mean but I think Nintendo is trying to make gamers Evolve/Change into something more. Thus, I think Demasked is the whole beginning to Nintendo's futer plans...
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']

- includes “Home Game function” which uses IEEE protocol to locate and communicate with other Nintendo 21s in the vicinity

- “Home Game function” is free, connect the AC adaptor and the machine talks to nearby Nintendo 21s and “Nintendo Home”s (? could be Form instead of Home - katakana is vague). Save data is stored on the main unit and affects other machines over the network.

- “Nintendo Home” machine is like a base station that will be put in many places and uses the PHS network for communication (popular mobile phone network). Will connect to handheld game machines and supports “Home Game function”, also sends latest info from Nintendo.

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This connectivity stuff reminds me of an interview I read about the Revolution where Miaymoto talked about building a community. When asked to explained he said a community but not in an online sense, but more personal.

I think the interview was on ign but I couldn't manage to dig it up. Anyhow, that might lend some validity to these rumors.
 
I'm wondering if those "Homes" (if real...blah blah blah) would be put in before the sytem was released and be one the same wavelength as the DS?
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']Look at it this way: YOu start playing Final Fantasy for the Nintendo 21 and suddenly it states on screen "Jeremy001 wishes to play with you". SO you allow him, to play along with you and you have a great time. Near the end of the game day you ask where he lives, and he says hes at [whatever adress]. You realize he's 2 houses away from you. You both meet up the next day (in person) and soon become friends.

That way may sound dumb, but it's pretty cool. It's like a community within a community, wheras the internet is just a community. You have a friend online who lives in germany who you know you will never meet in person, but with N21 people are actually more accesable.... whatever. I see what you mean but I think Nintendo is trying to make gamers Evolve/Change into something more. Thus, I think Demasked is the whole beginning to Nintendo's futer plans...[/quote]

My only problem with a community of this type is that it'll inevitablly be used by some psycho to stalk someone.
 
I'd rather be able to connect to anyone in the world over the internet, then just people in a mile radius. Not just because it gives a broader audience, it's more fun, and safer/less creepy.
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']I'd rather be able to connect to anyone in the world over the internet, then just people in a mile radius. Not just because it gives a broader audience, it's more fun, and safer/less creepy.[/quote]

Think of them as hubs...so it would end up being a long chain so almost anyone can connect. You just have to hope that the locals have an N21 or that your near a hub. These kind of ideas have been tossed around in regards to the DS. Very possible, even if all this N21 stuff is BS
 
[quote name='Sartori']The world doesn't revolve around America.[/quote]

Yes it does. Don't you listen to anything our president says?

Idiot.
 
[quote name='alongx'][quote name='Sartori']The world doesn't revolve around America.[/quote]

Yes it does. Don't you listen to anything our president says?

Idiot.[/quote]
:rofl:
 
[quote name='CrashSpyro123'][quote name='evilmax17']
I'm pretty sure you read it up-to-down and right-to-left.[/quote]

Then you're just reading gibberish.[/quote]

Haven't you ever read a manga? The pages are printed from right to left, with the dialogue written vertically, and thus you read the cells from right to left. A lot of the English translations are even printed in the same way.

Sure, Japanese can be written from left-to-right in linear fashion, but when written vertically, it is usually written from right to left.

This may not apply to the speculations in this thread, however.
 
[quote name='alongx'][quote name='Sartori']The world doesn't revolve around America.[/quote]

Yes it does. Don't you listen to anything our president says?

Idiot.[/quote]

I was hoping for that response. :D
 
[quote name='moiety'][quote name='CrashSpyro123'][quote name='evilmax17']
I'm pretty sure you read it up-to-down and right-to-left.[/quote]

Then you're just reading gibberish.[/quote]

Haven't you ever read a manga? The pages are printed from right to left, with the dialogue written vertically, and thus you read the cells from right to left. A lot of the English translations are even printed in the same way.

Sure, Japanese can be written from left-to-right in linear fashion, but when written vertically, it is usually written from right to left.

This may not apply to the speculations in this thread, however.[/quote]

Yeah, I know. I'm saying it's only special cases that it's read right to left and then you're only reading groups of words right to left. Not the words individually. I've read pretty much all issues of Shonen Jump, so I know what I'm talking about. I believe he's refering to the 21 being read backwards as 12 instead, which is far from being possible.
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento'][quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='RelentlessRolento']I am surprised no one is talking about the revolutionary "Nintendo House" stuff. It's really a monumental idea, and I feel Nintendo thinks it's their right to revolutionize the industry, and thank God for that! We all need a new way to play, and nintendo is taking it's time to make us gamers expand into a deepr more connected world.

Ever since nintendo released their DS I have been totally impressed by what they are doing. I think Sony and M$ are getting "stuck" standardizing and cloning everything.

Is anyone as excited about this (no matter how fake it may be)?[/quote]

I hear ya. It sounds pretty cool and all, but I just don't see what the big advantage of doing it this way opposed to just using the standard online gaming and updating.[/quote]

Look at it this way: YOu start playing Final Fantasy for the Nintendo 21 and suddenly it states on screen "Jeremy001 wishes to play with you". SO you allow him, to play along with you and you have a great time. Near the end of the game day you ask where he lives, and he says hes at [whatever adress]. You realize he's 2 houses away from you. You both meet up the next day (in person) and soon become friends.

That way may sound dumb, but it's pretty cool. It's like a community within a community, wheras the internet is just a community. You have a friend online who lives in germany who you know you will never meet in person, but with N21 people are actually more accesable.... whatever. I see what you mean but I think Nintendo is trying to make gamers Evolve/Change into something more. Thus, I think Demasked is the whole beginning to Nintendo's futer plans...[/quote]

Ahh I see what ya mean. That would be a great idea to meet new people that you could actually see.

If the N21 supported the Nintendo Home feature while still having online functionality, it would be awesome.
 
"Someone came accross some secret documents"............ man, if I had a nickel for everytime this excuse was used for "secret info" before a system launch. I'll wait until Nintendo says something, and until then, I'd just like to think that the system will have slots for games form their past systems as well.
 
All I know is that I'm not buying another Nintendo console until they clean up the controller and make it usable for something besides Zelda. FPS & Sports game are such a huge pain to play on the Cube.
 
Anyone talked about this in other threads?

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Iwata: Revolution will bring a "paradigm shift" to gaming

Nintendo president confirms his company's next-gen console will be unveiled at E3, says it will lure retired gamers and nongamers to the market.
TOKYO--In a full-page interview in Thursday's Kyoto Journal, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata commented on the current state of the company's next-generation game console--being developed under the working title "Revolution."



Iwata said the Revolution will cause a "paradigm shift" in video gaming, and reconfirmed that details on the machine will be unveiled at the upcoming E3 in May. He added that the machine will most likely come out somewhere between 2005 and 2006, when Sony and Microsoft are expected to release their next-generation consoles. Currently very little is known about the Revolution except that it may not use a conventional controller and may be able to connect to a PC monitor as well as the traditional TV screen.

"The keyword for the DS was 'innovative product,' but it will be 'paradigm shift in [game] play' with the Revolution," Iwata said in his interview with Kyoto's popular local newspaper.

"The concept behind our new console, tentatively named 'Revolution,' is the same as the DS. We want it to broaden the [video gaming] audience range, and we don't want it to be something that people will see as too irrelevant to them, too difficult to use, or as something that wastes space. We'll announce specific details at the E3 ... It will most likely come out between this year [and] next year, which is considered to be the transition period for home consoles," Iwata said.

Iwata said the DS and PSP aren't directly competing, because Nintendo is aiming for nongamers and retired gamers with its handheld, while Sony is targeting the traditional gaming audience. He added that his company will also attempt to avoid competing in the next-gen console market.

"Similar to the relationship that the DS has with the PSP, we won't fight over the same share of the pie with another company. We have no intention of fighting over shares of the market in a way that will shrink it. For us, success will depend on whether we can call back people that have stopped playing games, and whether we can also bring in a new base of customers. That way, our share [of the market] will increase since the market will grow bigger," Iwata said.

Iwata also took time to comment on the success of the DS. "We shipped 2.8 million units in Japan and America by the end of last year, and most had reached the hands of our customers by early after New Year's. Its sales are very good when compared to the launch of other game machines we've sold in the past. We feel that the DS has gained a wide range of audience. Aside from video game fans, people that haven't played games in a long time, or never played games before, have been picking up the DS," Iwata said. "According to research, the sales of game hardware for one month, starting in late November, increased by 75 percent compared to the past year, and game software sales also rose by about 10 percent. I believe that the DS is hindering people from losing interest in video games."

When asked by the Kyoto Journal what he thought of the PSP, Iwata stated relatively bluntly that Sony is going in a direction that Nintendo doesn't believe in, though he softened that by saying he welcomes Sony's entrance into the market--since it should expand the total gaming audience.

"In the past, the video game industry grew on high-quality graphics and data volume," Iwata said. "We decided to move into a different direction, since we believe that those days have ended. But by watching the PSP, we see that there are also people that have different thoughts from us. But it's up to the consumers to make the judgment, and it'll also be good if we can expand the market size by bringing out our best points."

Iwata also commented briefly on Nintendo's entrance into the movie market, hinting that although the company is strongly considering the move, it isn't completely sure if it will be going into the business just yet.

"We're strongly considering the matter. I've been in contact with the script writers, directors, and the production companies. We're looking into the potentials between movies and video games. But if we decide to really go into the movie business, it will be around summer of 2006 at the earliest."


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[quote name='evilmax17']Yeah, I just found this secret Nintendo document too. I'm pretty excited about it.

nintendo1xm.jpg
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Funniest damn thing i've seen in a while! :lol:

I dig that home base stuff. Sounds awesome.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']Yeah, I just found this secret Nintendo document too. I'm pretty excited about it.

nintendo1xm.jpg
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its not as good as the other one I made in some other topic... I mean found.
 
It just seems to me that Nintendo is trying to do too much with all of this. They seem to be trying to innovate on almost every part of the system and experience and it may just come crashing down if they don't get it all figured out. I think there is such a thing as too much innovation and Nintendo may be coming too close to it.
 
[quote name='MorPhiend']Iwata said the DS and PSP aren't directly competing, because Nintendo is aiming for nongamers and retired gamers with its handheld, while Sony is targeting the traditional gaming audience. He added that his company will also attempt to avoid competing in the next-gen console market. [/quote]
this pisses me off for many reasons but the biggest reason is that they are competing. If someone goes into the stores and see a DS and a PSP, they are going to only choose one of them. Saying you aren't competing is like saying Coke doesn't worry about Pepsi's new Spice flavor to catch on. Well, ok, bad example but I'm sure you see my point.
 
[quote name='guessed']So, maybe 21 will be the minimum age requirement. Nintendo has been trying to disassociate themselves from kiddie games. "Touching is good.", "Rubbing is better.", "Our controllers have a slot.". They are probably already getting Sega to work on a Rez update, complete with vibrator.[/quote]

You killed me, I can't breathe....I am your slave for all eternity...you are my god :D
 
[quote name='CrashSpyro123']It just seems to me that Nintendo is trying to do too much with all of this. They seem to be trying to innovate on almost every part of the system and experience and it may just come crashing down if they don't get it all figured out. I think there is such a thing as too much innovation and Nintendo may be coming too close to it.[/quote]

Here's the thing with Nintendo's "Innovation"..its "dumbing" things down. making it simple. The Ds touch screen and the ideas for this controller, Nintendo's making it so anyone can hold it, and figure out whats going on and play. I see no problems making the games universal and not getting into the realm of 500 buttons and WAY to complicated gameplay (i think i just said "PC" in too many words :) )
 
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does anyone else here feel like Nintendo is giving us information overload with all the supposed secrecy?

Iwata's comments are like a mystery wrapped in an enigma spoken about in a conversation between two conundrums and an obfustcation.

He's telling us everything ad nothing at the same time so now we have 20 different possibilities for this system, many of them unconfirmed by anything more than a confusing diagram and a possible scribble by someone who got a glimpse of something that may or may not have been the real thing... It's brilliant, people will be talking about the thing for months and maybe in all that speculation come up with ideas Nintendo will use in the future. The only problem is that they run the risk of completly alienating even their best supporters if it turns out to be a load of pure crap.
 
But its a new system. Not a new add-on or new test-market item (i-que), it s a full blown ready to release console. I dont think they will layback anymore. I dont think they did enough this generation, had good games and is still my favorite console, but it almost seems as if they put thier heart and soul into thier next system about a year ago.
 
[quote name='MorPhiend']Anyone talked about this in other threads?

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Iwata: Revolution will bring a "paradigm shift" to gaming

Nintendo president confirms his company's next-gen console will be unveiled at E3, says it will lure retired gamers and nongamers to the market.
b]link[/b][/url][/quote]

That's one hell of a statement, at least in business terms. Talk about ambitious. But it's going to really take something "revolutionary" to have the ammo to support this claim. But I have to admit, I'm really wanting to see just what the hell this thing is. They called the N64 controller design revolutionary, until thumbsticks kept breaking....
 
Just as a thought, this suspicially sounds like the nintendo ds point 1.DS came out on the 21 november 2004. point 2. uses a rubbing controller of sorts. point 3. connects to other systems within the area. Sounds suspicious to me, what do you all think?????
 
The NES/Famicom was not Nintendo's first home system, just the first with cartridges that could be switched. In the 1970s, they had TV Game 6, TV Game 15, Racing 112, Burokku-kuzushi ("Blockbuster"), and maybe more that I don't know of. They came preloaded with a few games, more often variants of games. I have only seen them in books (like Power-Up by Chris Kohler), but it at least shows that there's some precedent for a numbered system name.

It has been 20-21 years since Super Mario Bros, which is a pretty big deal if you're Nintendo. Regardless, this is likely a hoax.
 
[quote name='Bune'][quote name='MorPhiend']Iwata said the DS and PSP aren't directly competing, because Nintendo is aiming for nongamers and retired gamers with its handheld, while Sony is targeting the traditional gaming audience. He added that his company will also attempt to avoid competing in the next-gen console market. [/quote]
this pisses me off for many reasons but the biggest reason is that they are competing. If someone goes into the stores and see a DS and a PSP, they are going to only choose one of them. Saying you aren't competing is like saying Coke doesn't worry about Pepsi's new Spice flavor to catch on. Well, ok, bad example but I'm sure you see my point.[/quote]

ummm... Ken Kutaragi has been saying the same thing ever since Nintendo started saying it. If you think something is stupid, fine. That's your prerogative. But at least be equally hateful.

[quote name='Alpha2']Iwata's comments are like a mystery wrapped in an enigma spoken about in a conversation between two conundrums and an obfustcation.

He's telling us everything ad nothing at the same time so now we have 20 different possibilities for this system, many of them unconfirmed by anything more than a confusing diagram and a possible scribble by someone who got a glimpse of something that may or may not have been the real thing... It's brilliant, people will be talking about the thing for months and maybe in all that speculation come up with ideas Nintendo will use in the future. The only problem is that they run the risk of completly alienating even their best supporters if it turns out to be a load of pure crap.[/quote]

Nice allusion to Churchill. And I agree, it is brilliant. It reminds me a lot of the hype and clues leading up to the initial release of DemaSked (before another party *cough*Nintendo*cough*) stepped in and took the reigns. And the only way either of these situations are going to work in their favor is if the products (Revolution and DemaSked) deliver on the promises of the hype, which if I know Nintendo, I'm pretty sure they will. No one's been in the game as long as Nintendo and no one's had as many successes as Nintendo and no one's had as many mistakes to learn from as Nintendo. I think they know what they are doing. And they have monkeyed and tinkered with online for about twenty years now, but have never been happy with the end product. I think they have a lot of things figured out now and we will all be quite impressed with what they have to offer.

[quote name='Wshakspear']...it almost seems as if they put thier heart and soul into thier next system about a year ago.[/quote]
I don't see that. Look at Donkey Konga, Paper Mario, Metroid Prime, Star Fox Assault, Pikmin 2, DK: Jungle Beat, 3rd party deals and exclusives (RE4, NBA Street, Mario DDR, Odama, etc.), Advance Wars, Geist, a new baseball series (besides Mario - I forget the name) New Zelda, Mario 128, among many others I'm sure will still see the light of day on GCN. If you consider that forgetting about the GCN, boy are we in for a treat next generation! They have also stated that the GCN will live on even after the release of Revolution. They are using a new model for their business. There will be the GBA (or GBE in the future) and NDS along with GCN and Revolution. They are no longer interested, as a company, in pushing the envelope of stunning visuals and faster CPUs. They are making new ways to play. And that will continue on GCN beyond the Konga Drums and MP6 microphone. They've shown their support to two handhelds, I believe that they will keep their word with two consoles.

[quote name='Skylander 7'][quote name='MorPhiend']Anyone talked about this in other threads?

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Iwata: Revolution will bring a "paradigm shift" to gaming

Nintendo president confirms his company's next-gen console will be unveiled at E3, says it will lure retired gamers and nongamers to the market.
[/quote]...it's going to really take something "revolutionary" to have the ammo to support this claim.[/quote]

Did you read the new patent info sblymnl posted a link to? That alone would be something "revolutionary". But I doubt that we are on the verge seeing something "revolutionary" from Nintendo, but rather, with everything combined, I think in the next two to three years we could see a comlpete Videogame Revolution. (If only they could get a new marketing campaign.)

[quote name='Franklin WI']...at least shows that there's some precedent for a numbered system name.

It has been 20-21 years since Super Mario Bros, which is a pretty big deal if you're Nintendo. Regardless, this is likely a hoax.[/quote]

I don't think we should get hung up on the name. The simplest reason is that this "document" may be false. Who cares? The "specs" reported are things that have been circulating for well over a year. A more logical reason, though, is that the DS was first called DS. That was figured to be the "code name." But then they changed it to "Nitro" around a year ago. But the final name? DS. Between N21 and Revolution, it should definitely be named Revolution. And I think anyone can see that it should be, just like "Nitro" would have been a retarded name.
 
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