Nintendo is officially retarded.

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[quote name='Maverick CRV']All this coming from someone whose username is "Rabid Mammal Wax." That's not retarded at all. Really.[/QUOTE]

Top Gun was a shitty movie.
 
[quote name='goatindaruffness']Well as far as platformers, didn't they put out a platformer based on the Star Fox world sometime around launch, Star Fox Adventures I believe...
And then there was Billy Hatcher, which was and I still believe, still is Exclusive...
If you loved platformers so much, you wouldn't have failed to mention this game, because as a platform lover, this game was fun as a tornado bitch in heat...
They also put out Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, which was a platformer on a different level...
Excuse Nintendo for being creative, and not putting out 60 FPS's a week, and calling it a good time for gaming...

And as far as Nintendo being retarded, they still make plenty of cash, while you eagerly await a **POKEMON** game...
'Nuff said...
-Goatman[/QUOTE]


Woah, woah, woah, there buddy. Getting a tad too ahead of yourself?

Billy Hatcher was garbage, I rented it, I was disgusted.
Star Fox Assault, garbage, Star Fox Adventure, garbage.
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat? Noted.

Creative company? Hardly.
What system carries Katamari Damacy? Mister Mosquito? Shadow of Destiny? Ico? etc.
 
Geez, if you want to bump up your post count that badly just start doing +1's. It's a little less sad than having an online conversation with yourself.
 
[quote name='jclast']Just to showcase another opinion (and to show that Nintendo is doing well), here's my list of GameCube games:

Beyond Good & Evil: 3rd party, great game
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat: one of those platformers you claim the Cube doesn't have, and it's exclusive.
Enter the Matrix: 3rd party, decent game
Gladius: 3rd party, RPG (and an SRPG at that).
Ikaruga: 3rd party, great game.
I-Ninja: 3rd party platformer, good game.
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: great, easy to pick-up (even my dad plays when I go home), and it's exclusive
Mega Man Anniversary Collection: 3rd party, good (primarily for nostalgia, but I wish they'd used the Saturn version of MM8)
Mega Man Network Transmission: 3rd party exlusive platformer, good Mega Man game
Mega Man X Command Mission: 3rd party RPG
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes: 3rd party, great game, exclusive
Metroid Prime: Great FPS, exclusive
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door: my favorite RPG of last year, exclusive
Sonic Mega Collection: 3rd party, good game
Star Fox Adventures: good game and good use of license, exclusive action RPG
Super Monkey Ball: 3rd party, good fun platform/puzzler, and I think it began as an exclusive
Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker: great exclusive action RPG
Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures: great exclusive action RPG trip down SNES memory lane
Lord of the Rings: The Third Age: 3rd party, good RPG
Viewtiful Joe: Great platformer that started as an exclusive
X-Men Legends: 3rd party, great multiplayer co-op RPG
X-Men Next Dimension: 3rd party, decent fighter

If my collection is anything like average, it looks like the GameCube is doing just fine. It may not have loads of 3rd party support, but I'm a lot more prone to pick up a GameCube game I've never played than a PS2 game I've never played.

And I don't own these (yet), but what about Super Smash Brothers: Melee, Resident Evil 4 (didn't the GCN version come out first?), Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, LotR: tTT, LotR: RotK, Luigi's Mansion, Red Faction II, Rogue Squadron series, Wario World, Prince of Persia series, FF: CC, and PSO? All these are available for the GameCube, and many of them either are exclusive or started that way. Just because you can't think of all the games available on the Cube doesn't mean they're not there.

Hell, throw a GameBoy Player on your Cube, and you'll have more platformers than you'll know what to do with. You also get more Zelda, Riviera, Mega Man Battle Network, Pokemon, Mario Bros., Mega Man Zero.

Even two of the PS2's biggest exclusive series aren't so exclusive anymore. MGS and GTA both can be played on other platforms.[/QUOTE]


How many of those games are ports, available on other systems, or simply crappy (i.e. Megaman)? Gameboy player doesn't count, and Luigi's Mansion and FF:CC don't exactly count as good games.
 
[quote name='rjarmstrong100']Eugene....once again you make a flawed point.
Rachet and Clank - Insomiac Studios
J and D - Naughty Dog
Sly Cooper - Forgot, but not Sony.

Sony doesn't really make any of their games, just develop, whilst nintedo DOES create some of their games. Also, may i point out much quality is being presed on the GBA and DS by nintendo...[/QUOTE]

Ryan, Ratchet and Clank are exclusive and developed on the game engine developed by Naughty Dog, which is PART OF SONY.

Nintendo doesn't make games, no company does. Companies have divisions, smaller companies, called STUDIOS, that develop games. Naughty Dog is one of Sony's studios.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']The reason people make games is to make money.

If every company set out to make games SOLELY to make money, and they were original games, there should be no problem. Competing products have to one-up each other in quality and value. So what Sony and Microsoft are a bunch of capitalists? As far as I can tell, the PSP is a superior product, the XBOX is also superior, the PS2 has a superior library, etc. Nintendo can have all it's love and hugs and "we love making games" bullshit, but when all is said and done, they're consistantly offering an inferior product.[/QUOTE]

I think if everyone was just out to solely make money there'd be no original games at all anymore. To be honest the innovative, highly original games don't sell nearly as well as the movie liscensed games or the Madden's of the game world.

You almost make it sound like gaming is something you do cause it's high-tech or whatever. This isn't directed at you rather in general, but I'm tired of all this crap talking about which system is superior or who has the biggest game library. Hell in less than 2 years everything will be inferior anyways. I think everyone needs to quit bitching over things like this and just play whatever the hell you think is fun, after that is what video games were created for.
 
[quote name='Tromack']Geez, if you want to bump up your post count that badly just start doing +1's. It's a little less sad than having an online conversation with yourself.[/QUOTE]

What the hell do I care about post count?
Mods or Admins can set it to 0 for all I care.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']Ryan, Ratchet and Clank are exclusive and developed on the game engine developed by Naughty Dog, which is PART OF SONY.

Nintendo doesn't make games, no company does. Companies have divisions, smaller companies, called STUDIOS, that develop games. Naughty Dog is one of Sony's studios.[/QUOTE]

Umm, see this is where you lose some points. There's something called in-house development studios. Nintendo does make games, from Nintendo studios in fact, they are a development divison of Nintendo. Sometimes studios like say Bungie or naughty Dog are bought out by publishing companies such as sony or Microsoft to make games exclusively for them as first party titles, but Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all have in-house development studios IIRC. Also, Insomniac Games DID make all three Rachet and Clank games not Naughty Dog.
 
The one thing I wish Nintendo would do is match the capabilities of the other systems. Nintendo lost alot of sales from me on games like Madden, NBA and NHL solely for the lack of online gaming.

It does bother me that they seem to be behind the times on what gamers want. HD or no HD? I don't personally know anyone who would not prefer the option of HD.

That being said, I do realize that there are more games that are exclusive to NGC that are must haves for me. In the case of Ps2, the only franchise games that I must have are Socom, FF, and GTA. From the Xbox...umm Halo.

So while I wish Nintendo would change certain aspects of the way they run their gaming empire, as long as they continue to make the games that they do, I will continue to purchase and support there systems.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']Umm, see this is where you lose some points. There's something called in-house development studios. Nintendo does make games, from Nintendo studios in fact, they are a development divison of Nintendo. Sometimes studios like say Bungie or naughty Dog are bought out by publishing companies such as sony or Microsoft to make games exclusively for them as first party titles, but Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all have in-house development studios IIRC. Also, Insomniac Games DID make all three Rachet and Clank games not Naughty Dog.[/QUOTE]

Never said Ratchet and Clank was developed by Naughty Dog. They use Naughty Dog's engine, and Naughty Dog is always thanked in the credits for all the help they gave Insomniac.
 
[quote name='marlboro2']The one thing I wish Nintendo would do is match the capabilities of the other systems. Nintendo lost alot of sales from me on games like Madden, NBA and NHL solely for the lack of online gaming.

It does bother me that they seem to be behind the times on what gamers want. HD or no HD? I don't personally know anyone who would not prefer the option of HD.

That being said, I do realize that there are more games that are exclusive to NGC that are must haves for me. In the case of Ps2, the only franchise games that I must have are Socom, FF, and GTA. From the Xbox...umm Halo.

So while I wish Nintendo would change certain aspects of the way they run their gaming empire, as long as they continue to make the games that they do, I will continue to purchase and support there systems.[/QUOTE]

This is exactly me as well. I will always own another system for the 3rd party games, and maybe their exclusives. But I absolutely need the nintendo consoles for their exclusives. I would say I play my Xbox and Cube almost equally (my Xbox mostly plays 3rd party games and Halo 2, and my Cube plays almost all 1st party games), but my PS2 only gets played when there is an exclusive that I actually have a lot of interest in. It has been sitting in my closet since I finished God of War.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']Never said Ratchet and Clank was developed by Naughty Dog. They use Naughty Dog's engine, and Naughty Dog is always thanked in the credits for all the help they gave Insomniac.[/QUOTE]

Ah I see now, sorry bout that, I still stand by my overall point though.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']How many of those games are ports, available on other systems, or simply crappy (i.e. Megaman)? Gameboy player doesn't count, and Luigi's Mansion and FF:CC don't exactly count as good games.[/QUOTE]

Ports
Ikaruga
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Sonic Mega Collection

Available on Other current Systems
Beyond Good & Evil
Enter the Matrix
Gladius
I-Ninja
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
Sonic Mega Collection
Super Monkey Ball
Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
Viewtiful Joe
X-Men Legends
X-Men Next Dimension

Crappy
I don't think any of them are crappy; it's my entire GameCube collection.

I think the GameBoy Player ought to count. Does the 32X not count as another system? Also, I paid less ($150) for my GCN and GBP than I paid for my PS2 ($300).

Regardless of your taste in games, my point is this: The GameCube has platformers, RPGs, third-party support, and exclusives. Nintendo is far less dead (or retarded) than anybody makes it out to be. It's a company consistently turning a profit with a devoted fanbase, excellent first-party development, good third-party games, and good exclusive (or starting exclusive) titles.

And on a different note, I prefer to buy my multi-platform titles for the GCN. They have the most comfortable controller out of this generation.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']Woah, woah, woah, there buddy. Getting a tad too ahead of yourself?

Billy Hatcher was garbage, I rented it, I was disgusted.
Star Fox Assault, garbage, Star Fox Adventure, garbage.
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat? Noted.

Creative company? Hardly.
What system carries Katamari Damacy? Mister Mosquito? Shadow of Destiny? Ico? etc.[/QUOTE]

I can't vouch for Billy Hatcher, but I enjoyed StarFox Adventures. It was, in my opinion, a good move with the license. I'm a fan of Zelda and StarFox, and I liked the blending of the Zelda ground gameplay and the StarFox flight gameplay.
 
[quote name='marlboro2']That being said, I do realize that there are more games that are exclusive to NGC that are must haves for me. In the case of Ps2, the only franchise games that I must have are Socom, FF, and GTA. From the Xbox...umm Halo.
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I agree with this statement. I bought the Nintendo to play Zelda, Metroid, Pikmin, etc. Why would I buy a PS2 or an XBox if I could just play several of those games on the PC. Of course I'm missing out on Kingdom Hearts, FF:X, Katamari, and so on but I have enough Gamecube games to keep me busy for a long time.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']Because Nintendo is devoting too much wasted energy to consoles, and frankly, they suck at them. The reason for this is they keep telling us gamers what we want. They tell us we want simpler games, like that one-button Kirby racer, they told us during the N64 era that we didn't want discs, they told us during the GameCube era that we didn't want DVDs, and they're telling us in the next-gen era that we don't want HD and complex graphics. They're doing everything they can to alienate their core audience, gamers, with this, "let's-aim-for-the-non-gamer-market", strategy because Iwata and Miyamoto are completely wasted. Assuming Nintendo focused solely on games, being third-party, then we can see the great Zelda series, and the characters we grew up with, Mario and Donkey Kong and so forth, live on in BETTER, more polished, games.[/QUOTE]

Your logic is baffling.

Kirby Air Ride would be Kirby Air Ride no matter if it was on a Nintendo console or not.

There's no reason to believe a 3rd party Nintendo's games would be any different than they are now. Sega's games arent stunningly improved since they abandoned the Dreamcast and 3DO, oh yeah, they were just churning out those high quality tiles after their ill-conceived console failed. We were all shocked, SHOCKED to learn of the bankruptcy...

For the record, there are people who call themselves "gamers" that arent jumping up and down because of TFlops and polygon counts too
 
Where did that even start. Nintendo makes money. Like Miyamoto said when questioned about being 3'd place. The games are selling and profitable so I don't care. Nintendo will always be hardware makers. Especially with there huge bank acount. My question is why don't they spend some of that cash. Either ways it's already July Nintendo should release some info in the two months.
 
[quote name='sketch226']Your logic is baffling.

Kirby Air Ride would be Kirby Air Ride no matter if it was on a Nintendo console or not.

There's no reason to believe a 3rd party Nintendo's games would be any different than they are now. Sega's games arent stunningly improved since they abandoned the Dreamcast and 3DO, oh yeah, they were just churning out those high quality tiles after their ill-conceived console failed. We were all shocked, SHOCKED to learn of the bankruptcy...

For the record, there are people who call themselves "gamers" that arent jumping up and down because of TFlops and polygon counts too[/QUOTE]

Finally, somebody else realizes that it's not all about HD and polys. If fancy graphics were all that mattered, we'd all watch movies. After all, that's where the best graphics are at.

What ever happened to story and gameplay? Why do we go back to the NES, Genesis, SNES, PS1, DC,etc? Because we loved the games. The graphics are undoubtedly "worse" a generation or two back, but the gameplay and the storytelling is still there.

I, for one, applaud Nintendo's non-use of DVDs. It kept piracy to a minimum, and there weren't exactly an overabundance of multi-disc games for the Cube anyway (I can only think of Enter the Matrix and LotR: tTA that genuinely used both discs for gameplay).

As far as HD support goes, it still feels unneccesary. Until a signifigant portion of the gaming market owns an HDTV, why should any console manufacturer strive to support it. Look at Joe Gamer. Odds are his console is connected with Composite (RCA) cables or S-Video. I know only one person with an HDTV, and he doesn't even play console games.

Generation after next, yeah. HD will be a selling point. But by then an HDTV won't cost an arm and a leg either.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']Because Nintendo is devoting too much wasted energy to consoles, and frankly, they suck at them. The reason for this is they keep telling us gamers what we want. They tell us we want simpler games, like that one-button Kirby racer, they told us during the N64 era that we didn't want discs, they told us during the GameCube era that we didn't want DVDs, and they're telling us in the next-gen era that we don't want HD and complex graphics. They're doing everything they can to alienate their core audience, gamers, with this, "let's-aim-for-the-non-gamer-market", strategy because Iwata and Miyamoto are completely wasted. Assuming Nintendo focused solely on games, being third-party, then we can see the great Zelda series, and the characters we grew up with, Mario and Donkey Kong and so forth, live on in BETTER, more polished, games.[/QUOTE]

Why every week does some rabid FANBOY have to come out of the woodwork. I mean on cue we all get into these flame-fests. Frankly I say all of youse fanboys need to keep your pieholes shut, cause we all have heard the arguements over and over on a constant basis. Calm down all you kids! Now excuse me while I download some porn on my PSP
 
Nintendo has been making several "duh" errors lately, but I have 30+ games for my gamecube and the PS2 my Army buddy let me borrow (have had it for a year) has only been played twice.
And for the record, God of War = Rygar. It was worth the 5 dollar rental, but not much more.
 
I believe Nintendo said awhile ago that the HD decision is not yet set in stone. I don't have a link, but I don't think it's completely decided yet.
 
I am dissapointed with all the current generation consoles. I'm not going to make the outrageous claim that Dreamcast was the greatest console ever (or even great), but a lot of the games had that fun innovative or arcade type feel that seems missing from the other consoles. The PS2 gets a gem once in a while.

Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker were awesome games. FPS's (soon to be known as the only genre of gaming) suck.
 
[quote name='sketch226']Your logic is baffling.

Kirby Air Ride would be Kirby Air Ride no matter if it was on a Nintendo console or not.

There's no reason to believe a 3rd party Nintendo's games would be any different than they are now. Sega's games arent stunningly improved since they abandoned the Dreamcast and 3DO, oh yeah, they were just churning out those high quality tiles after their ill-conceived console failed. We were all shocked, SHOCKED to learn of the bankruptcy...

For the record, there are people who call themselves "gamers" that arent jumping up and down because of TFlops and polygon counts too[/QUOTE]


You have no evidence that their bankruptcy isn't a result of a trend of half-assing that began with the Dreamcast era. SEGA has simply not released as many games as Nintendo has in the last year. Assuming Nintendo goes 3rd party, it could more than quadruple the number of games sold (assuming there are 3 times as many PS2s out there than GCNs and about just as many XBOXs as GCNs).
 
[quote name='jclast']Finally, somebody else realizes that it's not all about HD and polys. If fancy graphics were all that mattered, we'd all watch movies. After all, that's where the best graphics are at.

What ever happened to story and gameplay? Why do we go back to the NES, Genesis, SNES, PS1, DC,etc? Because we loved the games. The graphics are undoubtedly "worse" a generation or two back, but the gameplay and the storytelling is still there.

I, for one, applaud Nintendo's non-use of DVDs. It kept piracy to a minimum, and there weren't exactly an overabundance of multi-disc games for the Cube anyway (I can only think of Enter the Matrix and LotR: tTA that genuinely used both discs for gameplay).

As far as HD support goes, it still feels unneccesary. Until a signifigant portion of the gaming market owns an HDTV, why should any console manufacturer strive to support it. Look at Joe Gamer. Odds are his console is connected with Composite (RCA) cables or S-Video. I know only one person with an HDTV, and he doesn't even play console games.

Generation after next, yeah. HD will be a selling point. But by then an HDTV won't cost an arm and a leg either.[/QUOTE]

That was Nintendo's rationale for not making the Cube internet-enabled (for more than two games).
 
[quote name='sying']Why every week does some rabid FANBOY have to come out of the woodwork. I mean on cue we all get into these flame-fests. Frankly I say all of youse fanboys need to keep your pieholes shut, cause we all have heard the arguements over and over on a constant basis. Calm down all you kids! Now excuse me while I download some porn on my PSP[/QUOTE]

I'm not a fanboy, I own a GameCube, I've OWNED it for years. I, as a consumer, am making an observation because I have been at the consumer's end of the market for just as long as Nintendo has been a supplier.
 
There is an important point made here though, and one I constantly struggle with:

One Mario platformer for each of the last two consoles.

I just don't get it. I actually LIKED Sunshine, but I can't believe the franchise that put Nintendo into peoples' homes gets shafted. There should definitely be two true Mario platform titles per gen. That's not too much to ask from the house that Mario built.
 
There is an important point made here though, and one I constantly struggle with:

One Mario platformer for each of the last two consoles.

I just don't get it. I actually LIKED Sunshine, but I wanted another one on the Cube. I can't believe the franchise that put Nintendo into peoples' homes gets shafted. There should definitely be two true Mario platform titles per gen. That's not too much to ask from the house that Mario built.
 
Why does anyone care? Jesus Christ, stop bitching and buy a freaking PS2 or XBOX if Nintendo isn't offering up what you want to play. Me, I enjoy all of them for what they are... except the Xbox because I don't have one (but I do want one eventually)... There's no point in them going third party because then they couldn't do things 100% their way. They can exist as a niche console/game maker so just let it be.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Why does anyone care? Jesus Christ, stop bitching and buy a freaking PS2 or XBOX if Nintendo isn't offering up what you want to play.[/QUOTE]

:applause:

And just to make things clear:

Gamecube isn't traditional. Pikmin, Donkey Konga, Animal Crossing, and more prove it.

Also: Wario World.
 
[quote name='Blade']:applause:

And just to make things clear:

Gamecube isn't traditional. Pikmin, Donkey Konga, Animal Crossing, and more prove it.

Also: Wario World.[/QUOTE]

That's garbage. Unless "isn't traditional" means CRAP.

The PS2 has just as many, and maybe even more, quirky titles than the GameCube. Donkey Konga isn't original--it's a Taiko Drum Master rip-off, a game available on the PS2.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']That's garbage. Unless "isn't traditional" means CRAP.

The PS2 has just as many, and maybe even more, quirky titles than the GameCube. Donkey Konga isn't original--it's a Taiko Drum Master rip-off, a game available on the PS2.[/QUOTE]

Go away. Seriously, no one cares that you don't like Nintendo. If you can't see any merit in the Gamecube then I feel sorry for you because you are missing out on some great stuff.

... oh and Donkey Konga came out way before Taiko Drum Master.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Go away. Seriously, no one cares that you don't like Nintendo. If you can't see any merit in the Gamecube then I feel sorry for you because you are missing out on some great stuff.

... oh and Donkey Konga came out way before Taiko Drum Master.[/QUOTE]

Seig heil. That's how you people say it, right?

Anyway, Taiko Drum Master was in arcades and Japanese PS2s LOOOOONG before Konga.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']Anyway, Taiko Drum Master was in arcades and Japanese PS2s LOOOOONG before Konga.[/QUOTE]

Namco created both games, though. Taiko was out on the PS2 before Konga was out on the Cube in Japan.
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']Seig heil. That's how you people say it, right?

Anyway, Taiko Drum Master was in arcades and Japanese PS2s LOOOOONG before Konga.[/QUOTE]

Disagree with people all you want, but it is in no way, shape, or form appropriate for you to liken people in this thread to Nazis.

You've just crossed a line. Not only have you resorted to name calling, but you've resorted to unneccessary vulgar name calling that trivializes one of the worst points of this planet's history.

Think. Before. You. Speak.
 
[quote name='jclast']Disagree with people all you want, but it is in no way, shape, or form appropriate for you to liken people in this thread to Nazis.

You've just crossed a line. Not only have you resorted to name calling, but you've resorted to unneccessary vulgar name calling that trivializes one of the worst points of this planet's history.

Think. Before. You. Speak.[/QUOTE]

You're an idiot. I implied he was a Nazi because he was trying to block out independant thought that disagreed with his beliefs.

I did think before I spoke.

How about you think about not being a self-righteous prick before you speak?
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']Seig heil. That's how you people say it, right?

Anyway, Taiko Drum Master was in arcades and Japanese PS2s LOOOOONG before Konga.[/QUOTE]

That's what you said. In its entirety. If you seriously think that video game release dates and console popularity rankings are as serious as the massacre of thousands and thousands of people at the hands of the Nazis, I'm very sorry for you.
 
[quote name='jclast']That's what you said. In its entirety. If you seriously think that video game release dates and console popularity rankings are as serious as the massacre of thousands and thousands of people at the hands of the Nazis, I'm very sorry for you.[/QUOTE]

For crying-out-loud--I'm Jewish, are you?!
I'd have a reason to be over-sensitive about it, but I'm not, because I'm not out to be a self-righteous prick.
There are Nazis out there today, are they killing millions of people?
No, they're not. They simply follow the tenents of National Socialism--fascism, and are characterized by bigotry and closed-mindedness.

That's it. There's no mass-murder implication there.

So are you done being a baby or should we call the waaaaaaaaaaahmbulance over here?
 
[quote name='Rabid Mammal Wax']For crying-out-loud--I'm Jewish, are you?!
I'd have a reason to be over-sensitive about it, but I'm not, because I'm not out to be a self-righteous prick.
There are Nazis out there today, are they killing millions of people?
No, they're not. They simply follow the tenents of National Socialism--fascism, and are characterized by bigotry and closed-mindedness.

That's it. There's no mass-murder implication there.

So are you done being a baby or should we call the waaaaaaaaaaahmbulance over here?[/QUOTE]

I'm not out to be a self-rigtheous prick. I just don't think that discussion about video games need to degenerate to the point that we call one another names over it. Especially names that can and do carry grave historical implications. They're just games.
 
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