[quote name='Kirin Lemon']This is sort of my take on it as well. The people who *should* be prosecuted are much higher up in the chain of command, and I would love to see them jailed for war crimes.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Magehart']and every law is worth adhering too? I don't care whether you think torture is right or wrong but you shouldn't punish those who administered it. Whoever gave the order to do it should be punished. Whoever laid down the plans to first start torture procedures should be punished. All who authorized both their requests to perform torture should be punished. Don't punish those who didn't have a say in it. All you can do is file a complaint and that's that. Otherwise they could be imprisoned for disobeying a direct order. If these guys are imprisoned then you're pissing on the military and that's wrong. Punish the leaders who authorized the atrocities.
**Also; I hope that no lawsuits come from this outside of a soldier who did disobey and was reprimanded for it.[/QUOTE]
That's not how it works. I don't know if either of you read the link, or even the short quote I posted, but nobody here is arguing that the higher-ups shouldn't be punished. The Obama administration is
required by law to prosecute, and Obama has pledged that his "Administration will always act in accordance with those laws". He is now breaking that pledge and
illegally protecting torturers. From the link, again: "But leave aside the question of whether prosecutions would produce good or bad outcomes. After all, the notion that the law can and should be ignored whenever we think doing so would produce good results or would constitute good policy was
the engine that drove Bush lawlessness."
[quote name='Magehart']every law is worth adhering too?[/quote]
We're not talking about you or me. We're talking about the president of the United States, the head of the government. So yes, they better follow the
ing law. Or have you already forgotten the last eight years?
[quote name='Magehart']Why? Hypothetically if someone pulled a gun to your head and told you to kill your best friend otherwise he'd kill both of you should you be charged with their murder? You committed the crime against your
FREEwill. Yes you would never have done the act in an ideal situation but this isn't an ideal situation they were in.[/QUOTE]
They willingly broke the law.
[quote name='gareman']everyone involved should be punished from the solider who carry it out to the administration official that ok'ed it.
I am sorry but "I was just following orders" is not an acceptable defense....I don't care what cult, terrorist group, military, church, hippie collective, think tank, business, political party, thursday night sewing club, etc you belong to you should be persecuted.[/QUOTE]