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EDIT: Here's an extra
for "hysterical panic" fullmetalfan. GTFO - you and Sarang and the other wingnuts can have a "world's going down the drain because we didn't elect Ron Paul to annihilate the federal government" pity party somewhere else. Stay on topic in here, and go start another "money masters" circle jerk in another thread.[/QUOTE]
Those "circle jerk" issues will come up when it comes to almost every political headline, because those issues are the true heart of this hydra. You can only argue the nuances and intricacies of the limbs so long before the argument leads to it's root causes.
I often wish you had watched all of money masters, because with your mind I think we could have some truly meaningful discourse in this place; assuming you were open-minded enough not to discard it all based on some typical academic formula of lack of scientific consensus or accreditation.
[quote name='mykevermin']"It all fits in." The true cattle call of the conspiracy theorist.
The bailout is the other side of the coin that, were this another round of bush tax cuts, you'd be gushing about how awesome it is that government was shrinking.[/quote]
Absolute BS. Your argument against this stuff totally collapses when you start making assumptions that those that are against all this spending were somehow ok with it when Republicans/Bush did it. That's simply not true and shows your willful ignorance and selective memory of those voices the past several years.
You're upset about the method of attempting to keep the economy from collapsing, not realizing that it's the same thing as a method you would have been, for lack of a better phrase, "sweet on."
Again, myself and many others were decrying it just as much at least two years ago. We predicted the same patterns would persist no matter who was elected, as proof that the majority of the so-called political debate had become nothing but a puppet show. Then, when we turn out to be right, you and others conjur up all this "you weren't this mad with Bush" horse shit - well you aren't going to get away with the same tired partisan banter on this one.
In the end, I'm not really interested in the money screamers such as yourself. We were $11T in debt at the start of this year. Your Johnny-come-lately-tea-party folks don't interest me, since they're comprised of the old-ass mother
ers who were responsible for the policies of the last 30 years. I doubt the sincerity of anyone who finds themselves a grown adult, in 2009, *now* concerned about government spending.
This paragraph sums up just how out of touch you really are from political thinking outside your own (which is to be expected from one that still hasn't put down the MSM popcorn and walked away from the fixed political chess match). I don't even know where to start.
Paul Krugman is right - no matter what policies he tried, no matter what he would do, or say, it would lead to hysterics, screaming, and reactionary paranoia among the right-wing. He could do no right, and the media would actually be such a bag of
ing wimps that it would spend time debunking (and therefore dignifying) the absurd dipshit claims of the right wing. "No, there won't be death panels, and there won't be euthanasia" are things said by the media, which helps whip up the
ing idiots on the right into a storm because it validates their existence and critiques.
Paul Krugman made the claim that we would have years of reactionary screaming, braying, and outrage that is wholly disconnected from fact - in January of 2008, before the primaries. He was dead right. And your nonsense doesn't refute that.
There isn't a more left-leaning pro-spending so-called economist other than Krugman in the media - and you've made it clear several times you not only like him and admire him but think he's accurate and stellar. That's fine, keep reading his stuff partisan quaking if it entertains you - but just know that while you admire Paul Krugman when he predicts water will be wet, some of us don't have time to listen to such elementary predictions, nor are we as impressed.
All I have to say to that Krugman hot air is that as long as we keep slicing everything up as "left did that and right did this", "Repubs did this and Dems did that", "YOUR people ruined this the past 30 years and MY people are trying to fix it" - you are not only simply following the standard recipe for the idealogical shell game that has taken this country to where it's at, but you'll help those truly in power take it to where they want.
That's your choice, if you are aware of the wizard behind the curtain but still prefer his faux political discourse/debate and show with the curtain down, good for you, but stop bashing those that are more interested in separating distractions, puppet shows, political slight-of-hand, and mis-information from simple follow-the-money fact finding and truth.
It's cute when you try to distill every single argument you disagree with down to a "right-wing" one, but it's getting a little stale. Sooner or later your going to have to admit that truth doesn't have a "side" or ideology.
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