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WHEN REPORTING TRADE-IN VALUES PLEASE POST BASE VALUES & SYSTEM IT IS FOR.

First post contains promo information & useful information and frequently asked questions. Second post has the values for games/hardware for Microsoft devices. Third post has the values for games/hardware for Nintendo consoles and the fourth post has the values for Nintendo handhelds. Fifth post has the values for games/hardware for Sony consoles and the sixth post has the values for Sony handhelds.

Instructions on finding games in the database and inputting the values from different sections can be found in my blog post here: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/blog.php?b=14143. I would put the entire post in the thread but this is already kind of a large post.

WHEN POSTING VALUES:

Please try to follow the example below if possible. If you feel the need to use the system icons, please only use them once at and at the top of the list. Also always post the system it's for even if it's only on one system or the value will not get updated. I don't always know it and I'm doing these updates from work to keep them as updated as often as possible so I can't spend time searching for that info.

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Current Promotions:

From GameStop employees on CAG:

GameStop.com Information (will post it when they update it)

50% extra in-store credit, traded towards pre-owned products (Ends 11/3/13)
GameStop.com said:
Get 50% extra in-store credit when you trade any games, systems or accessories toward the purchase of pre-owned products.
Valid 10/21/13 - 11/3/13

In-store credit must be applied toward the purchase of pre-owned product. Hardware must have all necessary components for trade. Not valid toward cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Trades subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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New Games for $9.99 after trade of 2 eligible games (Ends Unknown)
GameStop.com said:
Spend less for the new games you want

Get new games for $9.99 or less when you trade 2 eligible games

Customer may be responsible for sales tax. Net credit after promotion is $50.00 or greater, and must be applied toward the purchase of a new game. If applicable, excess credit remaining after purchase will be returned to the customer in the form of in-store credit. After promotion, cost to the customer will be $9.99 before tax, where applicable, for games priced at $59.99. Customer is responsible for any additional cost when purchasing games priced over $59.99. Eligible games must be traded in the same transaction as the purchase of an eligible new game. Not valid toward cash trades. Offer valid only when eligible items are traded. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Trades subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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30% extra credit on games, electronics & accessories trades towards select items. (Ends 12/29/13)
GameStop.com said:
30% extra in-store credit when you trade games, accessories, systems, smartphones or tablets toward any pre-owned product or select items
Valid 8/19/13 - 12/29/13

In-store credit must be applied toward an eligible product. Not valid toward cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Trades subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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$30 guaranteed trade-in value on select items. (Ends 10/24/13) *THIS IS A PROMO SO NO EXTRA ON TOP*
GameStop.com said:
Get $30 guaranteed trade-in value on select games.

In-store credit must be applied toward an eligible product. Not valid toward cash trades. Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Trades subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. Cannot be combined with any other offer. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.
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FAQ
These trade-in values are really low!
While that may be true, if you combine the games with the right promotion they can work to your advantage. There are knowledgeable people in this thread that are normally willing to help.

Is there any way to look at what the previous values reported on a game?
You can search through this thread and previous ones to see what a game has been reported in the past. With the TIV Tracker you can sort by date and then go through the list of past updated values through that as well. Here are the previous GS TIV Threads: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15,16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21,,,,

Can I trade-in sealed games?
No. You might come across the rare GameStop that would let you do it, but they are going to open them anyway.

I don't want to get hassled about the values I post, how can I get the information out there?
If you do not feel comfortable or willing to put the values in the thread you have two options available. You can input them in the TIV tracker or you can send them to me via PM. Either way the database and these lists will be updated. Putting them into the TIV tracker does save me some time later on.

Do trade-ins have to have their original case, insert and manual?
No, however it will be YMMV on if they charge you a refurbish fee for them in that condition. Most GameStops wont charge a fee but there are some that charge for incomplete games.

Will they accept my game if it is really beat up?
YMMV. It really all depends upon the employee you get. Some will charge refurbish fees, some wont, some wont accept the game and others just take them without a second glance.

What are the refurb fees on games?
There appears to be set prices for set value ranges. We aren't 100% certain on the splits just yet. Here is what we have currently:
$0.25-$2 Value: $0.75 Refurb Fee
$2.01-$4 Value: $1 Refurb Fee
$4.01-$7 Value: $2 Refurb Fee
$7.01-$10 Value: $3 Refurb Fee
$10.01 & Higher Value: $4 Refurb Fee
This information isn't guaranteed by any mean and we are still working on nailing it down.

What are the refurb fees on consoles?
They are listed in the hardware TIV section, highlight in red.

I have a Collector's/Limited/Special edition of a game, do I have to trade-in all of the extras?
No, but there are a handful of games that their variations have separate listings at GameStop: Madden 09 Anniversary Edition, Battlefield: Bad Company Gold Edition, and a few others.

Why didn't the percent bonus go for my accessory for a system that was included?
Unless stated otherwise, and they are rarely included, the bonuses never apply to accessories. Except the PowerUp Rewards card of course.

I traded in a bunch of games for the "Trade X, get $X bonus" promo and it gave me the percentage bonus instead?
I can't give concretes on why this happens. GameStop computers are normally pretty good at giving you the better promo. In the case of a percentage bonus being run at the same time as a "Trade X, get $X" promo, things can get messy. The system appears to only give one promo on games per transaction so if you had a few games that you want to go to the percentage bonus and a stack for the "Trade X, Get $X" it will regularly apply the percentage to all of the games. Your best bet is to do all "Trade X, Get $X" games in one transaction on their own. The GameStop clerk may say that the system will figure it all out, tell them you want a separate transaction anyway. As always, check your receipt before you leave the store.

Can I trade in multiple copies of the same game?
YMMV. The official policy is no, but there are some GameStops that overlook that rule.

What all do I have to trade in for a console trade-in?
Xbox 360: Console Unit, power brick, A/V Cables, Controller (wired/wireless)
Wii: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cables, Wiimote, Nunchuck, Sensor Bar
Playstation 3: Console Unit, Power Cable, A/V Cable, Controller, USB Cable
PSP: Handheld, A/C Adapter
Nintendo DS/DSLite/DSi: Handheld, A/C Adapter, Stylus

Can I trade in a defective/broken console?
For the most part yes. If it powers on but doesn't play games, they will take the console as a refurb unit and put a refurb fee on the console. The refurb fee on the console will vary on the price of the console so those numbers will change. You are still required to trade in everything required listed in the question directly above.

What is the difference between PowerUp Rewards and PowerUp Rewards Pro?
The basic card is free and only allows you to acrew points when spending money. The Pro card costs $14.99 and is basically the same as the previous EDGE program.

How much does a PowerUp Rewards Pro subscription cost?
It costs $14.99 and is good for a year. It also comes with a 1-year subscription to Game Informer magazine.

What bonuses come with having an PowerUp Rewards Pro card?
You will get an extra 10% trade-in credit on the base value of the game, extra 10% off the purchase of pre-owned games and 10% off new strategy guides.

Does the Power Up Rewards Card give me a bonus on hardware trade-ins?
No. You will only get the bonus for games and accessories.

What if I want cash instead of credit, what do they deduct?
If you decide that you want cash instead of credit, they will take 20% off the base values and promos will not apply.

Does promo "....." have a minimum trade-in value?
If the promo has a minimum trade-in value requirement, it will be listed in the promo. If it isn't there, then there is no limit. However, as with all trades, they are subject to manager approval so the manager could have setup his own little rule-set requiring a minimum of whatever.

I used a Power Trade promo for a pre-order, can I cancel that pre-order and get the credit or move it to another game I want?
Yes on both accounts. However, if you do a bunch of the power trades and just straight drop the pre-order you could create some ill-will between yourself and the employees you cancel on. However, if you look at the wordings on promos, they can remove the bonus trade-in value if they decide to.

I just tried to use a promo that has a select list of games eligible, but they say my game isn't eligible anymore, what gives?
Basically they have the right to change the eligible games at any time. They tend to update these frequently so as to lock out any easy/cheap games. It's best to check the eligible list the day of your trade.

Can I stack two different trade-in promos?
No. The only thing that will stack with trade-ins is your PowerUp Rewards card. Some will report success, but this requires a manual override and is very YMMV.

If I pay for an item using all credit on my card, do I have to pay sales tax?
This varies depending upon the state you live in.

If I buy a used copy of a game that requires an online pass for multiplayer, will it come with an online pass?
If you purchase a used title published by either Sony or WB you get an online pass from GS on your receipt. That's also why the used copies are $55 instead of $48 when the MSRP is $60. No GS issued passes of games published by EA, THQ, etc. On those titles you're totally dependent on the previous owner not using the code.

What states charge sales tax on purchases paid in full with credit and which ones don't?
Charge Sales Tax on Credit Purchases: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia
Does Not Charge Sales Tax on Credit Purchases: Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming
May or May Not Charge, Depending Upon County: Florida,

My state doesn't charge sales tax on purchases made by credit, why is gamestop.com charging me tax?
It is just the way they have designed their system. The best theory we have seen is that since you are only inputting the number off of the back of the card, it isn't going to pick up the programming from the specially tagged EDGE cards. Some kind of programming that gets input from their system that wont show up when only inputting the number off the back of the card.


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:ps3::

Saints Row IV - $17
Madden 25 - $25
Dark Souls - $6

:3ds: :

Fire Emblem Awakening - $12
Madden NFL Football - $6

Nintendo DS:

Pokemon HeartGold - $16
Pokemon SoulSilver - $16

 
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:360: Orange Box $11

Actually found someone on Craigslist who had Bayonetta, Unreal tournament 3, Orange Box, and Halo Reach all in great shape and complete for $10. So I couldnt resist and traded OB. Kept the rest. Guy kept the games all brand new looking. I cant even see a single scratch.

 
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EldritchOnRye said:
Well NBA was on that list for the last year when they were doing the promo and the new one comes out in two weeks so it was expected. WWE and MLB should be fine for at least a couple more weeks.
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Yeah I didn't know they were going to remove games. I bought FIFA 13 on Amazon 2 weeks ago at $16 to take advantage of the deal only to see it off the list :( I just need WWE and MLB to last another 2 days haha.

 
dinovelvet said:
14th Sept TIVs:

Xbox 360:

Portal 2 : $11

Tiger Woods 13 : $7.50

Dragon's dogma dark arisen : $12

Wii Nascar inside line : $9
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Ugh, another drop on Portal 2?

Tony Da Tiger said:
:ps3::

Saints Row IV - $17
Madden 25 - $25
Dark Souls - $6

:3ds: :

Fire Emblem Awakening - $12
Madden NFL Football - $6

Nintendo DS:

Pokemon HeartGold - $16
Pokemon SoulSilver - $16
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I wonder why the PS3 version is still $25 when the X360 already dropped to $23.

Stellar Inertia said:
:360: Orange Box $11

Actually found someone on Craigslist who had Bayonetta, Unreal tournament 3, Orange Box, and Halo Reach all in great shape and complete for $10. So I couldnt resist and traded OB. Kept the rest. Guy kept the games all brand new looking. I cant even see a single scratch.
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More drops...

Those 4 games for $10 total? Not bad at all...

 
Question on the steal of the week coupon since the language is a little vague.  This is like the current 30% promo where I only need to apply the minimum to something like a PS4 game right?

 
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So the $5 off coupon on anything new works for kindle cards? They only offer $25 cards and $50 cards correct? Does anyone know if the powerup coupon for 15% off a new item work on gift cards?

 
Tony Da Tiger said:
:ps3::

Saints Row IV - $17
Madden 25 - $25
Dark Souls - $6

:3ds: :

Fire Emblem Awakening - $12
Madden NFL Football - $6

Nintendo DS:

Pokemon HeartGold - $16
Pokemon SoulSilver - $16
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Ouch. Big drop on FE:A. And I'm surprised they're dropping SS and HG considering that they sell pre-owned for new copies' MSRP.

 
Yeah, definitely a drop on the PS3 Dualshock 3 controller to $16.

I showed the clerk the web site where it showed $18 still (with today's date on the page and everything) and he just shrugged and said that was strange and then, after an awkward pause, asked me if I still wanted to trade it.  I said sure - $25.60 was better than having a fifth controller I didn't need anyway.  Still, kind of annoying that I would have gotten $28.80 just yesterday.

 
EldritchOnRye said:
Sorry, the Steal of the Week for 50% bonus on electronics but you have to pre-order something next gen.
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i remembered a similar promo like this that i done a while back, when the next gen console preorders were announce at gs, you could just preorder anything that is next gen like console, controllers, games, with a min deposit of course.

 
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EldritchOnRye said:
Sorry, the Steal of the Week for 50% bonus on electronics but you have to pre-order something next gen.
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I would think its how you say just preorder something and put the minimum down towards a next gen item unless you get a persistent employee who tells you otherwise. Whats the expiration date on it? Would redeem for it myself if it expires mid october.

 
I have several more Playcation coupons.  First come first served if you PM me.  I posted about this earlier and only 4 people PM'd me and then 3 or 4 more asked here in the thread.  I'm not going to search people out and PM them - if you PM me I'll respond.   I ought to be on and off the computer until 4-5am Pacific tonight.  After that I probably won't be able to send any codes out.

 
Stellar Inertia said:
I would think its how you say just preorder something and put the minimum down towards a next gen item unless you get a persistent employee who tells you otherwise. Whats the expiration date on it? Would redeem for it myself if it expires mid october.
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September 29th which is my birthday.

 
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io said:
I have several more Playcation coupons. First come first served if you PM me. I posted about this earlier and only 4 people PM'd me and then 3 or 4 more asked here in the thread. I'm not going to search people out and PM them - if you PM me I'll respond. I ought to be on and off the computer until 4-5am Pacific tonight. After that I probably won't be able to send any codes out.
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me too. I have 1 coupon left. PM me. i'll be checking til about 3am.

 
Man, that stupid regional 100% bonus trade-in value is a sham. I brought my Vita and 3DS XL in to trade today, they would only give me 50% bonus on my Vita (even after the base for both dropping to $80).

Everything is at their discretion. They'd only give me 50% on my PS3 Super Slim too. I get why they do it, but they shouldn't advertise 100% on systems if it's an "exceptions apply" thing. Oh well, I guess I don't get new systems for $10 :'(

I still got rid of my 3DS for $160 though, upgrading to the X/Y one for $40 is... okay I guess. I'm pretty sure if the base TIV was still $90 today for the 3DS XL they wouldn't have given me 100% bonus on it, so it worked out??

What was funny was that they mentioned someone flipping iPads over and over again at that store, and they eventually started refusing the dude. I bet it was a CAG tbqh. Greedy, greedy people.

As reported already:

:3ds: :psp: 3DS XL, Vita - 80

:ps3: Diablo III -23

:wiiu: Transformers Prime - 8

http://www.gamestop.com/trade-values

^ That link, although it doesn't include everything, is useful if you wanna check it before heading out on any given day.

 
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EldritchOnRye said:
Would you rather I just ask what you're getting me? :whee:

It is $23 for 360 at least. Traded one copy in there with a playcation and that's what I got yesterday.
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I'm letting you have that Club Nintendo code. Don't push it.

PrinnyOtaku said:
What was funny was that they mentioned someone flipping iPads over and over again at that store, and they eventually started refusing the dude. I bet it was a CAG tbqh. Greedy, greedy people.
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SD again.

 
PrinnyOtaku said:
What was funny was that they mentioned someone flipping iPads over and over again at that store, and they eventually started refusing the dude. I bet it was a CAG tbqh. Greedy, greedy people.
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The Boston location has 100% on iPads/tablets too? I called them and they said 100% is only on games, systems (maybe not in your case), and accessories.

 
I guess early on they did, otherwise they wouldn't have mentioned that "issue" to me.

There are probably more people like Hoarder (nothing against him, that shit takes a lot of effort) on CAG. Maybe SD has ~more~ of them, but I imagine the iPad flipping started here and not on SD.

They said the only issue is systems since they can't buy them and then sell it at a loss, but I'm curious if they'll give me $55 for a PS3 Madden. I asked about Diablo and they were okay with the $50.40 for that. I don't even know man, that store is fucked up.

Having them take a picture of me and everything I trade in is so... awkward. It's like Best Buy two years ago all over again -.-

I'm just glad I have my Pokemon 3DS XL paid off.
 

 
PrinnyOtaku said:
I guess early on they did, otherwise they wouldn't have mentioned that "issue" to me.

There are probably more people like Hoarder (nothing against him, that shit takes a lot of effort) on CAG. Maybe SD has ~more~ of them, but I imagine the iPad flipping started here and not on SD.

They said the only issue is systems since they can't buy them and then sell it at a loss, but I'm curious if they'll give me $55 for a PS3 Madden. I asked about Diablo and they were okay with the $50.40 for that. I don't even know man, that store is fucked up.

Having them take a picture of me and everything I trade in is so... awkward. It's like Best Buy two years ago all over again -.-

I'm just glad I have my Pokemon 3DS XL paid off.
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I'm not even trying to flip an iPad, although I might do one, if 100% applies. I was mainly looking to get $100 for my HP TouchPad.

CaseX told me that when Madden for the Xbox was still $25 base, they manually adjusted the trade-in to $50 instead of $55. Lame, but it's still a high ass value for that.

 
dorkyden said:
you know TONS of CAGers would kill for a 100% bonus even if it's games only.
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Oh, I know. It's just weird because sometimes they say one thing like 100% bonus on everything, then they won't give you 100% bonus on some stuff. I guess that's to be expected with values at levels designed for 50% bonus, not 100%.

 
PrinnyOtaku said:
They said the only issue is systems since they can't buy them and then sell it at a loss, but I'm curious if they'll give me $55 for a PS3 Madden. I asked about Diablo and they were okay with the $50.40 for that. I don't even know man, that store is fucked up.
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Zolor23 said:
CaseX told me that when Madden for the Xbox was still $25 base, they manually adjusted the trade-in to $50 instead of $55. Lame, but it's still a high ass value for that.
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Yup. When I went in with Madden and the TIV was $25, the register bumped it up to $55, but they manually adjusted it back down to $50 cuz they told me they can't give me what they sell it for (used copies are $55). Someone reported TIV was $23 on Friday so you might not have that issue at all.

EldritchOnRye said:
Sounds fun, they take pictures here but just of the merchandise.
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That GS store takes pictures of us and the merchandise. Felt kinda like a criminal. Lol.

Now that you mention someone flipping iPads, I wonder if they made up that "law" to take people's pictures as an excuse to deter people who trade in too frequently. I tried Googling and couldn't find anything that mentions this new "law" requiring photographs. You would think that something like that would be reported at least in the news. I found nothing.

 
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CaseX said:
Yup. When I went in with Madden and the TIV was $25, the register bumped it up to $55, but they manually adjusted it back down to $50 cuz they told me they can't give me what they sell it for (used copies are $55). Someone reported TIV was $23 on Friday so you might not have that issue at all.

That GS store takes pictures of us and the merchandise. Felt kinda like a criminal. Lol.

Now that you mention someone flipping iPads, I wonder if they made up that "law" to take people's pictures as an excuse to deter people who trade in too frequently. I tried Googling and couldn't find anything that mentions this new "law" requiring photographs. You would think that something like that would be reported at least in the news. I found nothing.
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The PS3 copy is reported as $25 base.

Yeah, I came back home and googled laws on pawn shops and trade ins, and nothing. Maybe it's a GS law.

 
Zolor23 said:
The PS3 copy is reported as $25 base.

Yeah, I came back home and googled laws on pawn shops and trade ins, and nothing. Maybe it's a GS law.
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it is mostly like your local pawn lawns, take it up with your local/state legislator, if you want to see it change.

 
Zolor23 said:
The PS3 copy is reported as $25 base.

Yeah, I came back home and googled laws on pawn shops and trade ins, and nothing. Maybe it's a GS law.
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Ah, if it's still $25 then it will probably get bumped down to $50 unless the person working the register is new to that store.

YBX87 said:
it is mostly like your local pawn lawns, take it up with your local/state legislator, if you want to see it change.
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The thing is, this "law" supposed just started this past week. I am curious enough to try to find out more though, if only to call out that GS on its shady practices if the law doesn't really exist...

 
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Playcation coupon drop:

EBC3040611-67CGNDDS

EBC3040611-5GJP8L2Q

EBC3040611-6D78M18G

EBC3040611-6D9MMTQH

I still have a few more that I can send via PM if requested.  I won't be on early tomorrow but will probably check around noon-3pm Pacific.  So if you are on the West Coast you might still be able to get one from me tomorrow and get to GS before they close.

Personally I'm more interested in the Sweepstakes thing that came with the coupons.  I entered that a bunch of times - when were they going to announce prizes?  It seems like at least one CAG should have won something from that if it was legit.

 
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CaseX said:
Yup. When I went in with Madden and the TIV was $25, the register bumped it up to $55, but they manually adjusted it back down to $50 cuz they told me they can't give me what they sell it for (used copies are $55). Someone reported TIV was $23 on Friday so you might not have that issue at all.

That GS store takes pictures of us and the merchandise. Felt kinda like a criminal. Lol.

Now that you mention someone flipping iPads, I wonder if they made up that "law" to take people's pictures as an excuse to deter people who trade in too frequently. I tried Googling and couldn't find anything that mentions this new "law" requiring photographs. You would think that something like that would be reported at least in the news. I found nothing.
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My GS store requires thumbprints. What would you guys choose? Fingerprints or a picture?

With Playcation ending today, you guys think GS will increase the base value of trade ins for all the consoles? There is a Steal of the Week coupon that will offer an extra 50% on systems traded in starting on 9/30 for 20K points.

 
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