PSN Weekly Deals - 8/27: PAX Indie Sale, DJ Hero/2/GH Sale, Spelunky $11.99, Pinballistik is Free!, and Machinarium Vita Free for PS+!

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Welcome to the best thread for all of the deals on games, add-ons, and other stuff in the PlayStation Store both on and off of PSN.

Index
Current Deals
Upcoming Deals & PlayStation Plus Schedule
Free Games
PlayStation Plus Preview
Persistent PlayStation Plus and Alternate Deals
Frequently Asked Questions
History of Free PlayStation Plus Games

Current Deals (Full Update Here) - Store Updates Every Tuesday, Usually Between 4-8 EST

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Key:
N - New This Week
X - Expires With Next Update
P - Permanent Price Drop
C - Cross Buy (Vita/PS3)
D - Demo or Full Game Trial Available

Pre-orders


Battlefield 4 - $59.99 - Ends 10/29 [customspoiler='Bonuses']China Rising Expansion & Exclusive Theme[/customspoiler]
Battlefield 4 - Premium - $49.99 - Ends 10/29
Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse - $14.99 X [customspoiler='Bonuses']Original Genesis game, Avatars, & Exclusive Theme[/customspoiler]
Diablo III - $59.99 X [customspoiler='Bonuses']Infernal Helm DLC Pack & Exclusive Theme[/customspoiler]
FIFA 14 - $59.99 - Out 9/24 [customspoiler='Bonuses']24 FUT Gold Packs & Exclusive Theme[/customspoiler]

Grand Theft Auto V - $59.99 - Out 9/17 [customspoiler='Bonuses']75% Discount on a Rockstar PSN Title, Atomic Blimp, & Exclusive Theme[/customspoiler]

NHL 14 - $59.99 - Ends 9/10 D [customspoiler='Bonuses']24 HUT Gold Packs & Exclusive Theme[/customspoiler]
Rain - $14.99 - Ends 10/1 [customspoiler='Bonuses']Avatars, Dynamic and Static Themes, & Musical Montage[/customspoiler]
 
Bundles

Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon & Call of Juarez Gunslinger Bundle - $24.99 - 17% Off ND

Penny Arcade Adventures: On the Rainslick Precipice of Darkness Episode 1 & 2 Bundle - $7.49 - 50% Off NX

Pinballistik + DLC Bundle - $4.99 - 38% Off NP

Soldner-X 2: Final Prototype Complete Bundle - $5.99 - 54% Off - [customspoiler='Includes']Full Game + The Last Chapter Add-on[/customspoiler]

Soldner-X 2: Final Prototype + Soldner-X: Himmelssturmer Bundle - $6.99 - 53% Off - [customspoiler='Does Not Include']Last Chapter Add-on for X2[/customspoiler]

PS3

Amy - $1.99 - 33% Off
Closure - $7.49 - 50% Off NXD
Dragon Fantasy Book I - $4.99 - 50% Off NXC

Dyad - $7.49 - 50% Off NXD

flOw - $5.59


Flower - $6.99 D



Journey - $7.49 - 50% Off NXD

Limbo - $7.49 - 50% Off NXCD

Madden NFL 13 - $29.99 - 25% Off NP
Need for Speed: Most Wanted - $29.99 - 25% Off NPD
Pinballistik - Free NP
Retro City Rampage - $4.99 - 66% Off NXC
Retro/Grade - $4.99 - 50% Off - Compatible with Guitar Controller NXD
Skullgirls - $7.49 - 50% Off NXD
Tokyo Jungle - $7.49 - 50% Off NX
Soldner-X: Himmelssturmer - $3.99 - 50% Off



Soldner-X 2: Final Prototype - $4.99 - 50% Off
Wicked Monsters Blast! HD - $4.99 - 50% Off- Move Compatible
Zombie Tycoon II: Brainhov's Revenge - $4.99 - 50% Off NXC


 

PS2 Classics

Raiden III - $5.99 - 40% Off
Add-ons




DJ Hero - Jay-Z vs. Eminem Pack - $3.99 - 50% Off N
DJ Hero 2 - Hard Edge Mix Pack - $2.99 - 50% Off N
DJ Hero 2 - Ultra Mix Pack - $3.99 - 50% Off N

Dragon's Crown - Storyteller Voice Pack - Free X



Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock - Classic Rock Track Pack - $3.13 - 50% Off N
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock - Coldplay Track Pack - $3.13 - 50% Off N
Guitar Hero 5 - Avenged Sevenfold Track Pack - $2.75 - 50% Off N
Guitar Hero 5 - Rock 1 Track Pack - $5.49 - 50% Off N
Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock - Linkin Park Track Pack - $5.99 - 50% Off N
Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock - Rocky Horror Picture Show Track Pack - $2.75 - 50% Off N
Guitar Hero World Tour - Classic Rock Track Pack - $2.75 - 50% Off N
Guitar Hero World Tour - Queen Track Pack - $2.75 - 50% Off N
Rocksmith - "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen - $1.99 - 33% Off NX
Rocksmith - "Fat Bottomed Girls" by Queen - $1.99 - 33% Off NX
Rocksmith - "Godzilla" by Blue Oyster Cult - $1.99 - 33% Off NX
Rocksmith - "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" by Pat Benatar - $1.99 - 33% Off NX
Rocksmith - "Keep Yourself Alive" by Queen - $1.99 - 33% Off NX
Rocksmith - "Killer Queen" by Queen - $1.99 - 33% Off NX
Rocksmith - "My Sharona" by The Knack - $1.99 - 33% Off NX
Rocksmith - "Stone Cold Crazy" by Queen - $1.99 - 33% Off NX

Soldner-X 2: Final Prototype - The Last Chapter - $2.49 - 50% Off

 

PS1 Classics - All of these are compatible with PS3 and PSP unless otherwise noted. Check this thread for Vita compatibility.
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Minis - All of these are compatible with PS3 and PSP unless otherwise noted. Check this thread for Vita compatibility.
1000 Tiny Claws - $1.75 - 50% Off
Blimp: The Flying Adventures - $1.49
Monsters (Probably) Stole My Princess - $2.49 - 50% Off

Who's That Flying?! - $2.49 - 50% Off

 
PSP Games - Check this thread for Vita Compatibility
N/A
 

Vita Games

Dragon Fantasy Book I - $4.99 - 50% Off NXC

Earth Defense Force 2017 Portable - $19.99 - 50% Off N

Limbo - $7.49 - 50% Off NXCD

Need for Speed: Most Wanted - $19.99 - 33% Off NP

Retro City Rampage - $4.99 - 66% Off NXCD

Zombie Tycoon II: Brainhov's Revenge - $4.99 - 50% Off NXC
Vita Add-ons

Dragon's Crown - Storyteller Voice Pack - Free X
 
PlayStation Plus

PS3 Deals



Closure - $3.75 - 75% Off NXD
Dragon Fantasy Book I - $2.50 - 75% Off NXC

Dyad - $3.75 - 75% Off NXD




Grid 2 - $53.99 - 10% Off X



Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds Complete Collection - $19.99 - 20% Off - Move Compatible
Journey - $3.75 - 75% Off NXD

Limbo - $5.99 - 60% Off NXCD
Ms. Germinator - $7.99 - 20% Off XC
Penny Arcade Adventures: On the Rainslick Precipice of Darkness Episode 1 & 2 Bundle - $3.75 - 75% Off NX
Retro City Rampage - $3.74 - 75% Off NXC
Retro/Grade - $2.50 - 75% Off - Compatible with Guitar Controller NXD
Skullgirls - $3.75 - 75% Off NXD

Spelunky - $11.99 - 20% Off NXC
Tokyo Jungle - $3.75 - 75% Off NX
Wicked Monsters Blast! HD - $1.00 - 90% Off - Move Compatible
Zombie Tycoon II: Brainhov's Revenge - $2.50 - 75% Off NXC

Vita Deals

Dragon Fantasy Book I - $2.50 - 75% Off NXC
Draw Slasher - $3.00 - 50% Off N
Limbo - $5.99 - 60% Off NXCD
Ms. Germinator - $7.99 - 20% Off XC

Muramasa Rebirth - $20.99 - 30% Off X

Retro City Rampage - $3.74 - 75% Off NXCD

Zombie Tycoon II: Brainhov's Revenge - $2.50 - 75% Off NXC
 
Add-on Deals
Bit.Trip Presents…Runner2: Future Legend Of Rhythm Alien - Good Friends Character Pack - $2.39 - 20% Off
Subscriptions

Music Unlimited Premium One Year Subscription - $41.99

Free Games (Don't Argue About This, Please)

Bit.Trip Presents... Runner 2: Future Legend of Rhythm Alien - 769 MB

Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower - PSP/Vita - 657 MB

Gravity Rush - Vita - 1.4 GB

Hitman: Absolution - 16.1 GB X - [customspoiler='Includes']Full Game, Deus Ex Disguise DLC, Deus Ex Zenith Handgun, and Discount on Sleeping Dogs[/customspoiler]

Jet Set Radio - 1.1 GB
Knytt Underground - PS3/Vita - 857 MB

LittleBigPlanet Karting - 7 GB

LittleBigPlanet Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves - Requires Move
Machinarium - 183 MB

Machinarium - Vita - 329 MB N

Metal Slug XX - PSP/Vita - 166 MB
Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee - 1.2 GB
Pinball Arcade - PS3/Vita - 115 MB
Saints Row The Third - 7.2 GB - Free CheapyD Pack
Uncharted: Golden Abyss - Vita - 2.9 GB
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception - 30 GB
Wipeout 2048 - Vita - 1.6 GB

XCOM: Enemy Unknown - 7.6 GB

Zen Pinball 2 - Star Wars Pinball - PS3/Vita - 783 MB N [customspoiler='Includes']Standalone Star Wars Pinball game[/customspoiler]

Themes
[customspoiler=PS+ Themes]Abstract Art - Dynamic
Assassin's Creed Revelations - Dynamic
Cuckoo - Dynamic
Daytona USA
Double Dragon Neon - Dynamic
Dragon - Dynamic
Hell Yeah! Wrath of the Dead Rabbit - Dynamic
The House of the Dead III - Dynamic
The House of the Dead 4 - Dynamic
I Am Alive - Dynamic
Infamous Festival of Blood - Dynamic
Jet Set Radio - Dynamic
Leap Year - Dynamic
Mesh - Dynamic
Mexican Skulls - Dynamic
PlayStation Plus - Dynamic
Robot - Dynamic
Samurai - Dynamic
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 - Dynamic
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II - Dynamic
Stripe Shift Part 2 - Dynamic
Tales from Space: About a Blob
Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown - Dynamic[/customspoiler]

Avatars
[customspoiler=PS+ Avatars]Armageddon Riders (3)
Cool Cat
Daytona USA (5)
Dead Cloud
Double Dragon Neon (7)
Fat Princess (2)
God of War: Ascension
Green Hamster
Hell Yeah! (4)
The House of the Dead III (3)
The House of the Dead 4 (3)
Jet Set Radio (6)
LittleBigPlanet (2)
Mutant Skull
Pink Hamster
PlayStation B-boy (1, 2, 3)
Resident Evil 5
Section 8: Prejudice Bundle
Squirrel
Stick Up Kid
Street Fighter X Tekken
Street Fighter 2
Tank Commander
Top Dawg
Under Siege
Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown (20)[/customspoiler]

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Here are the new deals for this week (Full Update Here):

PS3
Germinator - $7.99
Hamilton's Great Adventure - $4.99
Just Dance 4 - $27.99 - Move Required
Labyrinth Legends - $7.99

Pre-Orders
The Last of Us - $59.99 - Out 6/14

Add-ons
Fuel Overdose - Wanderer Vehicle Pack - Free
Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - Gamindustri's Mascot - Free
Just Dance 4 - "Baby Girl" by Reggaeton - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "The Lazy Song" by Bruno Mars - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Want U Back" by Cher Lloyd - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Dagomba" by Sorcerer - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Die Young" By Ke$Ha - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "DJ Fresh" by Gold Dust - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Gangnam Style" By Psy - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - Gossip – Heavy Back - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "We R Who We Back" by Ke$Ha - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Professor Pumplestick" by N.Phoenix & T.Bergersen - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Oath" By Cher Lloyd Featuring Becky G - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "One Thing" by One Direction - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Part Of Me" By Katy Perry - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Primadonna" By Marina And The Daimonds - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Reggaeton Storm" by Boom - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Hit The Back" by Selena Gomez And The Scene - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "The Girly Team" by So Glamourous Back - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "You Make Me Feel…" by Cobra Starship (Feat. Sabi) - $2.09
Just Dance 4 - "Funhouse" By Pink Back - $2.09
Sniper Ghost Warrior 2 - Multiplayer Expansion Pack - Free

Wallpaper
Karateka

Vita Games
Germinator Bundle - PS3/Vita - $9.99
Ragnarok Odyssey - Vita - $29.99 - Permanent Price Drop

Vita Apps
Imaginstruments - 32 MB

Vita Add-ons
Soul Sacrifice - Additional Quest Headless Knight and Starved Citizenry - Free
Soul Sacrifice - Black Rite Berserker - Free
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PlayStation Plus

Deals
Draw Slasher - Vita - $4.19
Germinator - $5.99
Germinator Bundle - PS3/Vita - $5.99
Hamilton's Great Adventure - $2.50

Games
Blazblue: Continuum Shift Extended - Vita - 3.3 GB

Full Game Trials
Fuse
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
 
[quote name='specialist']Really wanna get Blaz, but I really need a bigger memory card to accommodate it[/QUOTE]
You can get it anyway and worry about having space for it later.
 
Really wish they would add/update the Miami Dolphins dynamic theme with the new logo/colors. Probably wont ever happen though.
 
[quote name='specialist']Really wanna get Blaz, but I really need a bigger memory card to accommodate it[/QUOTE]

got it on my 8gb card but will delete it next week to make room for class of heroes 2....


i doubt i will play it that much 3.3 gig is way too much room to hold up
 
Was considering selling my physical copy, but didnt realize it was that big. All these updates that they force you to do in some vita games kills card space. I remember PSABR had a 600MB and 800MB one. (Not sure if they combine together to save space, but still damn huge).
 
[quote name='dgwillia006']Was considering selling my physical copy, but didnt realize it was that big. All these updates that they force you to do in some vita games kills card space. I remember PSABR had a 600MB and 800MB one. (Not sure if they combine together to save space, but still damn huge).[/QUOTE]

They do usually replace the old one with the new one. But yeah, still huge.
 
seems they are putting a lot of the dlcs in these updates. noticed it today with soul sacrifice as well. since the dlc was only 100kb each, but the update was 61mb.

after checking my download list. emmett and kat for psasbr are also 100kb each.
 
[quote name='Derextreme']seems they are putting a lot of the dlcs in these updates. noticed it today with soul sacrifice as well. since the dlc was only 100kb each, but the update was 61mb.

after checking my download list. emmett and kat for psasbr are also 100kb each.[/QUOTE]
That's the way that a lot of developers have been doing it for years.
 
i never noticed it until i started getting vita dlc. only 360/ps3 dlc i ever downloaded that was only 100kb was the stuff from gt5 xl. not counting preorder or collector's edition items. though, i haven't bought as many dlcs for ps3 as i have for 360.
 
I appreciate the completeness of the OP but can you please put Avatars, past deals and other non urgent things in spoilers or better yet links so that the page does not lag and/or is easy to sort through?
 
Damn I was surprised by that 3.3GB... Had to delete some older games off my Vita >.< Worth it. I love Blazblue, and no way I'm not downloading it :D

Can I switch between my 8GB card and my 16GB card for PS Plus downloads? I keep forgetting how Sony handles the multiple memory cards thing.
 
Impressed by how great BlazBlue looks on the Vita screen. Controlling the game is a bit more difficult than on the Dual Shock obviously but the Vita d-pad works admirably well.

On a side note, what's this imaginstruments thing? Is it worth checking out to fiddle around with if you don't have much of an interest in composing music?
 
[quote name='Slade']On a side note, what's this imaginstruments thing? Is it worth checking out to fiddle around with if you don't have much of an interest in composing music?[/QUOTE]Not really. It's simply an app where you can mess around and try to create music. If it's not your type of thing, you'll barely spend a minute on it before getting bored like me.
 
Blazblue

30 mins to download it


10 mins to play it and delete it off system

now another 30 mins to an hour redownloading all the junk i deleted just to play it LOL
 
[quote name='slidecage']Blazblue

30 mins to download it


10 mins to play it and delete it off system

now another 30 mins to an hour redownloading all the junk i deleted just to play it LOL[/QUOTE]

Whoa, why would you ever delete BlazBlue? It was one of the first games I picked up retail when I got my Vita.


Also, I never understood how folks are getting such decent download speeds on their Vita. It's been 8 hours and still not done. And no, it's not my connection as every other device I have download at normal speed.
 
[quote name='slidecage']Blazblue
30 mins to download it
10 mins to play it and delete it off system
now another 30 mins to an hour redownloading all the junk i deleted just to play it LOL[/QUOTE]

That's what I'm hoping doesn't happen for me haha. I've never been into fighting games, but I'll try anything for free. Maybe this will be the one I actually like. I just need to beat a digital vita title to make room to try it. Probably should go through Uncharted finally to make room.

@dranakin You're not alone. My ps3 and everything else downloads much faster than my vita. I usually just download larger games to my ps3 then transfer things to my vita to save time.
 
[quote name='Dranakin']Whoa, why would you ever delete BlazBlue? It was one of the first games I picked up retail when I got my Vita.


Also, I never understood how folks are getting such decent download speeds on their Vita. It's been 8 hours and still not done. And no, it's not my connection as every other device I have download at normal speed.[/QUOTE]

i had to play with the vita to make it download that fast cause it keep slowing down (pause and restart the download)

ALSO im out of room on my 8gb and need the room for class of heroes next week


would of had room but with the ps3 i got i just had to download


suikoden ps1 for 6 bucks (download it into the ps3 then transfer to vita)
Sega Genesis Collection - 10 bucks

temped to get
Valk chorn 2 maybe when i do the class of heroes next week
 
We know one of the deals for PS+ in June:
Independent games publisher and developer Wired Productions is announcing that Let’s Fish! Hooked On, the first full-scale fishing game for the PS ® Vita will be soon arriving onto PlayStation®Plus in Europe, Australia and the US for a period of one month, with a 50% discount for all those who are subscribers.

Leo Zullo, managing director of Wired Productions said “The timing is right to move onto PlayStation®Plus. We didn’t want to discount too early and disrespect the customers that had already bought the game. We believe that the niche anime and fishing style of the game which includes loads of hours of game play, is exactly the fun packed value proposition that Vita fans and Plus subscribers alike absolutely relish.”

PlayStation®Plus subscribers can take advantage of this generous discount between the 5th June – 3rd July for the Pal Territories and the 4th June - 2nd July for the US. Those who are not signed up can still purchase the game at full price, and the title will go back to its original retail price for everyone at the end of the promotion.

Developed by SIMS, who are the team behind arguably the all time greatest fishing game SEGA Bass Fishing, make Let’s Fish! Hooked On a fast paced arcade style game, to make a patient sport into a fun and challenging experience.

The quick action and intuitive arcade like game play, comes with a full story which includes four different anime-style characters each with their own story and unique abilities.

With online rankings and trophies to collect as well, Let’s Fish! Hooked On really puts the fun back into fishing, and offers a unique spin for the handheld gaming community.

To find out more about how you can take advantage of the discount, go to the PlayStation®Plus store online or visit the official Let’s Fish! Hooked On website www.LetsFishGame.com
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50% off would make it $9.99.
 
Owning my Vita makes me 100X more likely to pick up a PS4. Would be awesome especially for when the girifriend is watching TV and I can be playing PS4 games on my Vita via remote play

Too bad they couldnt get this to work for PS3, would help with my backlog :)
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']We know one of the deals for PS+ in June:

50% off would make it $9.99.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm...game seems interesting, but a 41 on Metacritic makes me hesitant, especially for $10. The fact that there is no demo pretty much seals the deal that I won't buy it.

I'm actually shocked that Sony doesn't require demos for all digital games on the Vita store.
 
[quote name='tylerh1701']
I'm actually shocked that Sony doesn't require demos for all digital games on the Vita store.[/QUOTE]

I'm actually shocked that you're actually shocked. Hell, Sony didn't even make a demo of Journey available at launch when they knew that game was going to be epic. There are plenty of XBLA games that come simultaneously to the PSN without a demo for whatever reason. I don't know why Sony isn't more insistent on providing game demos, but for whatever reason it's not important or even standard practice to them.
 
[quote name='Decker']I'm actually shocked that you're actually shocked. Hell, Sony didn't even make a demo of Journey available at launch when they knew that game was going to be epic. There are plenty of XBLA games that come simultaneously to the PSN without a demo for whatever reason. I don't know why Sony isn't more insistent on providing game demos, but for whatever reason it's not important or even standard practice to them.[/QUOTE]

The reason I'm shocked is because XBLA has required demos of every game since forever, and I assumed that Sony would start making demos required for every game with their Vita. I assume every PS4 digital game will have a demo, but maybe I'm giving Sony too much credit.

There's no doubt they lose out on money by not having demos. I'd love to try Draw Slasher this week and see if it's worth $4 to me. I may have only had about a 20% chance of buying it after trying the demo because I'm not that interested in it, but maybe the demo could have sold me. Without the demo, it shoots my chances of buying it down to 0%. Ditto with that fishing game in a couple weeks.
 
[quote name='Dranakin']Whoa, why would you ever delete BlazBlue? It was one of the first games I picked up retail when I got my Vita.


Also, I never understood how folks are getting such decent download speeds on their Vita. It's been 8 hours and still not done. And no, it's not my connection as every other device I have download at normal speed.[/QUOTE]

I second what that guy did. The game isn't worth the space it consumes. Any PS+ user who is a casual fan of fighting games can get just as much enjoyment out of Tekken 6 and the Soul Calibur game recently offered.
 
[quote name='tylerh1701']Hmmm...game seems interesting, but a 41 on Metacritic makes me hesitant, especially for $10. The fact that there is no demo pretty much seals the deal that I won't buy it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it looked like one of those "eeeh, I'll get it once it's 1/2 off or so", but after hearing rather negative reviews, I'm much more skeptical, especially if I can't try it out first. Though doesn't matter since I can't get PS+ on my Vita anyways (PLEASE allow sub accounts to turn into master accounts with the PS4, Sony)....
 
[quote name='tylerh1701']The reason I'm shocked is because XBLA has required demos of every game since forever, and I assumed that Sony would start making demos required for every game with their Vita. I assume every PS4 digital game will have a demo, but maybe I'm giving Sony too much credit.

There's no doubt they lose out on money by not having demos. I'd love to try Draw Slasher this week and see if it's worth $4 to me. I may have only had about a 20% chance of buying it after trying the demo because I'm not that interested in it, but maybe the demo could have sold me. Without the demo, it shoots my chances of buying it down to 0%. Ditto with that fishing game in a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]

I'll bet there are a lot of people who will pay $5, $10, or even $15 to buy a game without a demo even if they are only mildly interested since it feels like a fairly insignificant purchase. I know demos have turned me off of games that I might have just gone ahead and purchased to try it out had there not been a demo. Perhaps Sony is working this angle.

To put it in perspective, people are willing to pre-order $60 games that don't have demos. Of course, most people are rarely "on the fence" for a pre-order title, so I understand there is a difference.

Also, I sometimes prefer buying a game (as long as it's cheap enough) instead of trying a demo anyway since I feel like a demo might not give enough information or depth for me to truly make an informed decision. Some games are not what they seem on the surface and if I have put money into it, I feel like I will work harder to truly try out and appreciate a game. Of course, there are many duds out there, so that process can get expensive without some other filter such as recommendations and reviews ahead of time.
 
I will be in heaven if remote play is used in all PS4 games, but how will this work for games that heavily use R2,L2, R3 and L3? Seems like trying to map all of those to the rear touchpad would be too annoying for developers and players.
 
[quote name='LazyTriangle']I'm afraid to click on that link, I don't want to see any spoilers[/QUOTE]
i see 24 trophies ;)

1plat
6gold
9silver
7bronze
1hidden
 
[quote name='mpaullin']I will be in heaven if remote play is used in all PS4 games, but how will this work for games that heavily use R2,L2, R3 and L3? Seems like trying to map all of those to the rear touchpad would be too annoying for developers and players.[/QUOTE]
They can use the rear touchpad for any other buttons. The news isn't really new since they've said that all non-Move/Eye camera exclusive games require the developers to submit Vita control schemes for Remote Play.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']They can use the rear touchpad for any other buttons. The news isn't really new since they've said that all non-Move/Eye camera exclusive games require the developers to submit Vita control schemes for Remote Play.[/QUOTE]
I actually do remember them announcing something about required remote play from that initial reveal, but my brain chose not to remember since I didn't have a Vita at the time. I am just wondering whether using the rear touch pad to map buttons is viable for all games. If all 4 absent buttons are mapped to the rear, I could see people accidentally tapping the "wrong" section pretty easily (and maybe throwing a grenade when you meant to melee in CoD). Just a thought..
 
[quote name='Decker']I'm actually shocked that you're actually shocked. Hell, Sony didn't even make a demo of Journey available at launch when they knew that game was going to be epic. There are plenty of XBLA games that come simultaneously to the PSN without a demo for whatever reason. I don't know why Sony isn't more insistent on providing game demos, but for whatever reason it's not important or even standard practice to them.[/QUOTE]

The reason why many games don't have demos on PSN is because developers have to foot the bandwidth cost there, which isn't the case for XBL. The last known figure is 18 cents per gigabyte. So say you put out a 1 GB demo and 100,000 people download it - you've just spent $18,000 before you see a single sale.

[quote name='tylerh1701']The reason I'm shocked is because XBLA has required demos of every game since forever, and I assumed that Sony would start making demos required for every game with their Vita. I assume every PS4 digital game will have a demo, but maybe I'm giving Sony too much credit.

There's no doubt they lose out on money by not having demos. I'd love to try Draw Slasher this week and see if it's worth $4 to me. I may have only had about a 20% chance of buying it after trying the demo because I'm not that interested in it, but maybe the demo could have sold me. Without the demo, it shoots my chances of buying it down to 0%. Ditto with that fishing game in a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]

I would strongly disagree to your statement that not creating demos leaves money on the table for developers. The bandwidth cost alone is not insignificant, nevermind the cost of creating a demo. I think a lot of people don't value demos that much these days because renting games from Gamefly or Redbox is pretty cheap; with demos, you'd have to download them, make the space for them on your hard drive, delete them, and if you do get the full game, you have to replay those levels over. In your anecdote, you said a demo might make you 20% interested in a game - that's not enough for PSN games. Even on XBL where every game has a demo and developers don't pay for bandwidth, the conversion rate from demo to full game purchase is probably just around there.
 
[quote name='whitereflection']The reason why many games don't have demos on PSN is because developers have to foot the bandwidth cost there, which isn't the case for XBL. The last known figure is 18 cents per gigabyte. So say you put out a 1 GB demo and 100,000 people download it - you've just spent $18,000 before you see a single sale.



I would strongly disagree to your statement that not creating demos leaves money on the table for developers. The bandwidth cost alone is not insignificant, nevermind the cost of creating a demo. I think a lot of people don't value demos that much these days because renting games from Gamefly or Redbox is pretty cheap; with demos, you'd have to download them, make the space for them on your hard drive, delete them, and if you do get the full game, you have to replay those levels over. In your anecdote, you said a demo might make you 20% interested in a game - that's not enough for PSN games. Even on XBL where every game has a demo and developers don't pay for bandwidth, the conversion rate from demo to full game purchase is probably just around there.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the interesting behind the scenes insights.

Where do you get this information from?

Would love to know more about how PS+ works.
 
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