PSP2 is going to be "Effing Powerful" [The PSP2 Thread]

I can understand the touch screen but two cameras seem idiotic. Maybe if it had a rotating camera but I don't get what use two cameras could have in terms of gameplay. And power doesn't help if the games suck... I can only imagine how expensive this is going to be.

I honestly hope they don't make it digital only. I'm definitely not going to buy it if it's digital download only.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Why would Sony use another slow-loading, disc-based format?[/QUOTE]

Cause DD is stupid? I'm not paying $30+ for a game I don't technically own. They can stop being lazy and develop better media formats and drives that read them.
 
[quote name='Buuhan1']Cause DD is stupid? I'm not paying $30+ for a game I don't technically own. They can stop being lazy and develop better media formats and drives that read them.[/QUOTE]
The alternative to the UMD isn't DD.

[quote name='J7.']Yes, but memory sticks cost more to make than discs. People's hate of UMD's was mostly on the movie side. UMD's have the positives of cheap production and very high capacity. If it comes to a decision between memory sticks and larger capacity UMD I think Sony will pick the one that costs the cheapest to manufacture since UMD's are not going to prevent people from buying games. They also know that UMD's are easier to break than memory sticks, making repurchases needed sometimes.

I hope for cartridge but I see them doing DD or UMD in that order. Maybe more reasons for them waiting are for higher capacity hdd at lower price or for Bluray costs to go down so they could include that, in addition to the other reasons they have for waiting like PSP's popularity in Japan.[/QUOTE]
I see 2 GB memory sticks, the largest size you really need for portable games you're also hoping to sell digitally, on Amazon for less than $7, so I can't imagine that they cost much at all to produce. Memory sticks can have the same amount of capacity as a UMD and requires much less space for a drive in the device. They can also offer much better load times that are essential for a portable sysem, so we have less of the Smackdowns and Gran Turismos and more like the recent Atlus RPGs that have ~1 second load times at most.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']The alternative to the UMD isn't DD.


I see 2 GB memory sticks, the largest size you really need for portable games you're also hoping to sell digitally, on Amazon for less than $7, so I can't imagine that they cost much at all to produce. Memory sticks can have the same amount of capacity as a UMD and requires much less space for a drive in the device. They can also offer much better load times that are essential for a portable sysem, so we have less of the Smackdowns and Gran Turismos and more like the recent Atlus RPGs that have ~1 second load times at most.[/QUOTE]

I think we're going to need larger than 2 gb for a next generation Sony handheld given the beefier specs - especially the graphics. And given that, they may not want to go DD only. If 2 gb sticks are on Amazon for $7, take into account you can buy 100 DVD-R's on Amazon for $22 (often I've seen them for $19). I just think they're looking at cost and not that concerned with load times. Now if they had 2 memory stick slots and 2gb sticks, we could have upto 4 gb capacity and that would be nice.
 
I dont like the UMD format but I would rather have those there a weird new proprietary MicroSD type card in my pocket that I would lose every 2 seconds haha. But I wonder what kind cartridge or disc based format they will be choosing .

wait...A lot of people are sweating over this, and is the PSP 2 really going to happen ?
 
I think the loading problems of the UMD are overrated, the 360 is much, much worse on the whole.

But anyway, like the 360, all Sony has to do is allow the games to be installed to the memory stick from the optical media. Problem solved.
 
[quote name='DiscoJer']I think the loading problems of the UMD are overrated, the 360 is much, much worse on the whole.[/QUOTE]

The only problem is that waiting 30 seconds on a couch or running to the kitchen to grab a drink while it is loading is far different from waiting for a portable system to load up when you want to get a round in 10 minutes before a movie starts or waiting for a bus.
 
They just need to take a page out of Nintendo's playbook on portables:

1) Make it affordable
2) Make it have a good battery life and actually be "portable"
3) Have software geared towards portable gaming.

It's pretty straightforward, its also why the DS handed the PSP its ass despite the fact it is completely inferior technologically speaking. Software is everything.
 
Meh. Everytime the PSP gets a good game, people just whine about it being on the PSP and not something else (see Peacewalker thread for great examples of this).

It's also cheaper than the DS, actually (at least DSi). And the PSPGo is quite portable, but is the least successful.
 
[quote name='DiscoJer']Meh. Everytime the PSP gets a good game, people just whine about it being on the PSP and not something else (see Peacewalker thread for great examples of this).[/QUOTE]
I think this has a lot to due with the single analog stick. The PSP itself is a great platform and plenty powerful, but since it's running a lot of the similar games we've come to know from the PS2 era, people are use to having a second analog stick. IMO, if/when they bring out a PSP2, as long as it has a second stick people will be much happier.
 
I want DD. I want to be able to have all my games on my system at once without having to carry a bunch of disks around with me. If it has KH1 as a ps2 classic I will buy the system at launch.
 
Ok, so the Sony press conf went off without a mention of a PSP successor (not even a Go price cut which surprises me). What are your thoughts? Is the PSP2 just a ghost or do you think TGS would be a better stage to announce if there is one coming (since the PSP is doing well in Japan)?
 
[quote name='CrimsonPaw']Ok, so the Sony press conf went off without a mention of a PSP successor (not even a Go price cut which surprises me). What are your thoughts? Is the PSP2 just a ghost or do you think TGS would be a better stage to announce if there is one coming (since the PSP is doing well in Japan)?[/QUOTE]

Honestly, there was no way they were going to beat out hype/coverage of a new Nintendo handheld, so the PSP2 would have been overshadowed at E3. Waiting until TGS (assuming PSP2 is real) is probably the only logical choice.
 
I'm really happy they are sticking with the PSP, it has a lot of huge hitters coming up for it and there's still a lot of potential to be realized.

The 3DS looks great, I was kind of hoping for a bigger graphics leap though.
 
Just what the hell are you talking about again?

Also, there's gonna be no PSP2 for awhile, accept that. Sony made that quite clear at the press conference and have even launched a new ad campaign for the PSP.
 
Lol it doesn't matter the psp is bleeding out its ass because of piracy. The new gen can play games all games now and anyone that have trouble will be patched. Sony needs to scarp the psp.
 
The PSP is pretty much being sadly raped by piracy.

As for the PSP2 - they need to get it out there soon, at least to developers, before too many third parties just forget about the PSP and go with the 3DS. The main reason for being on the PSP and not the DS seemed to be the power of system and this is now under heavy fire.

As soon as the next Portable Monster Hunter is on the 3DS the PSP is pretty much dead.
 
[quote name='budsmoka']The new gen can play games all games now and anyone that have trouble will be patched. Sony needs to scarp the psp.[/QUOTE]
Can someone please help me out? I'm really having trouble understanding this guy...
 
The new custom firmware can play any games out there. Even games that require a new firmware since the new custom firmware is written so it will be able to play games requiring up to 9.99. Basically Sony is wasting their god damn time on the psp.
 
But if it's doing so well in Japan they won't want to release PSP2. Maybe they should release it here and wait a while before releasing it in Japan. You'd think they'd lower the price here, but with the piracy they need to make money off the hardware. They're stuck in an awful situation.
 
If piracy is really hurting Sony, I do feel for them, but I really enjoy having a modded PSP. I'm a collector, so I don't pirate my games. I do rip all them to memory stick though. It's like having one of the major benefits of a PSPgo, but still having a UMD drive. Maybe they should start including a digital copy with their UMDs, like they do with some movies.

I wouldn't mind seeing Sony adding in something like Apple's App store for the next PSP. The homebrew people have filled in a spot with certain applications, that Sony has either neglected or just plain ignored. I have a mp3 player that is better than the default one that comes with the PSP. I also have a homebrew ebook reader. Sony could have made an a reader app that was compatible with their ebook store and others. I also use IRShell, which I like better than the XMB.

I'm just curious, which is hit worse by piracy: DS or PSP? I was wondering if the DS has just as big of a problem considering all the different flash carts out there.
 
A digital copy is a brilliant idea, but only if they can prevent it from being used multiple times and thus top people abusing it. Would also hurt pre-owned games I guess but PSP games seem to be getting cheaper all the time.
 
[quote name='erehwon']
I'm just curious, which is hit worse by piracy: DS or PSP? I was wondering if the DS has just as big of a problem considering all the different flash carts out there.[/QUOTE]
It seems like DS games have more piracy per game but they also have a lot more sales per game and almost all PSP games seem to be pirated while only a fraction of DS games are heavily pirated.

[quote name='Goemar']A digital copy is a brilliant idea, but only if they can prevent it from being used multiple times and thus top people abusing it. Would also hurt pre-owned games I guess but PSP games seem to be getting cheaper all the time.[/QUOTE]

If they included a digital copy with umd games, I don't know what that would actually do to pre-owned games because many people would just sell the umd and keep the digital, making more used games available.
 
You'd need the original disc to re-install the digital copy (as your obviously only going to have so much space), so I guess that would give people a reason to hold onto it (meaning that some kind of PSP/PSN ID link would be needed).

People may avoid the used games as they wouldn't come with a digital copy? Guess it wouldn't cause to much of a stir in the used game market. But still, digital copy is a cracking idea.

As for what I'd want to see from the PSP2...

First things first, I don't want a second screen or anything - maybe a touch screen as long as it doesn't take too much of the quality of the image way. I would, of course, like a second analog stick. I'd also go for scrapping UMDs and instead use some kind of memory card for the games, similar to the current memory cards the PSP uses but obviously not the same (as to avoid piracy). Memory storage has dropped in price a lot of the years and these are smaller so take up less space and as they're not disc based they'd load faster. Save data could either be done onto the card or the PSP2 system itself, doesn't bother me.

The PSP2 should also be able to store up to around 4 of these game cards at a time allowing you to choose which one you'd like to play from the XMB menu. This would make carrying games around a lot easier, as they would literally be in the PSP2 - convenient! The PSP2 should also have something similar to Ad Hoc Party on the PS3, allowing any ad-hoc only game to be played online.

As there would be no UMD drive the PSP2 would not be backwards compatible. It probably wouldn't be that much smaller than the PSP-1000 either as I've slapped 4 card readers in it. Splitting the should buttons into two (into outer and inner buttons I guess) could also probably work.
 
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my wish list for psp 2.

-3d is not necessary, but would be nice
-more multi functional... something like an ipod where I can check email, listen to music, etc. The browser on the psp is mediocre...probably due to hardware limitations, so improve that aspect.
-dual analog, nuff said...
- no digital distribution...i want to play my old psp games. (backwards compat)
- keep it under 249. would have said under 200, but thats a pipe dream.
- form function friendly...would like to keep this "portable." pocket sized...whatever.
- ability to play ps2 quality games at least, and hopefully a ps2 library on psn.
 
[quote name='Goemar']You'd need the original disc to re-install the digital copy (as your obviously only going to have so much space), so I guess that would give people a reason to hold onto it (meaning that some kind of PSP/PSN ID link would be needed).

People may avoid the used games as they wouldn't come with a digital copy? Guess it wouldn't cause to much of a stir in the used game market. But still, digital copy is a cracking idea.

As for what I'd want to see from the PSP2...

First things first, I don't want a second screen or anything - maybe a touch screen as long as it doesn't take too much of the quality of the image way. I would, of course, like a second analog stick. I'd also go for scrapping UMDs and instead use some kind of memory card for the games, similar to the current memory cards the PSP uses but obviously not the same (as to avoid piracy). Memory storage has dropped in price a lot of the years and these are smaller so take up less space and as they're not disc based they'd load faster. Save data could either be done onto the card or the PSP2 system itself, doesn't bother me.

The PSP2 should also be able to store up to around 4 of these game cards at a time allowing you to choose which one you'd like to play from the XMB menu. This would make carrying games around a lot easier, as they would literally be in the PSP2 - convenient! The PSP2 should also have something similar to Ad Hoc Party on the PS3, allowing any ad-hoc only game to be played online.

As there would be no UMD drive the PSP2 would not be backwards compatible. It probably wouldn't be that much smaller than the PSP-1000 either as I've slapped 4 card readers in it. Splitting the should buttons into two (into outer and inner buttons I guess) could also probably work.[/QUOTE]

Good point. If they only required the umd to install then I can see people selling the umd and picking it up later if they ever need it again. But I think they would probably require it every time if they really want to stop piracy. I don't like that but I like that if it stops piracy. One thing I really want improved is the web browser.
 
If you required the disc every time the whole thing would be pretty useless.
I know a lot of Blu-rays come with digital copies, anyone have any idea how they work?
 
I'd like to see playstation plus extend to the psp2 at no additional charge. The psp2 needs to beef up it's online features and the playstation plus will look more attractive if it's features extend to 2 systems instead of just 1.

I'd also like to see more unison between the psp2/ps3. More games that can be played on both consoles and games that have cross-console multi-player modes. Depending upon how powerful the psp2 is, I'd like to see Most PSN games become playable on the PSP2, and future PS2 classics playable on the PSP2 as well.

The PSP2 would need 8 buttons and two analog sticks to be able to properly play ps2 games, so hopefully they design it with ps2 level gaming in mind. The Go's form factor was great, but the digital distribution only and high price was a turn off. They need a new physical format for their games, and cheaper prices for the digital copies.
 
Not quite PSP2, but it could be a sign of things to come.

http://psp.ign.com/articles/110/1102678p1.html

[quote name='IGN']

A Japanese retailer has listed a new PSP model that's supposedly coming to stores before the year's end.

Geo, a retailer that specialises in consumer electronics, slates the 'PSP-4000' for release this year (spotted by Siliconera) as well as putting down the Nintendo 3DS for a 2010 launch in Japan.

It's not the first time we've heard of a PSP-4000 – the name was first dropped before the PSP Go was revealed, and last December Sony inadvertently included it on promotional materials for the handheld LittleBigPlanet.

Could it be the PSP 2 that's expected to be unveiled at either Gamescom or the Tokyo Game Show later this year, a refurb for the existing model or a simple typo? Sony has the answers, though we don't expect them to offer anything beyond their refusal to comment on rumour and speculation.

[/QUOTE]
 
As it's called the PSP-4000 and not the PSP2-1000 or something I'm guessing it's just refurbished.
 
[quote name='Goemar']If you required the disc every time the whole thing would be pretty useless.
I know a lot of Blu-rays come with digital copies, anyone have any idea how they work?[/QUOTE]

I figure they may do it like it works on 360 to really combat piracy.
 
Just want to chime in here how excited I am for this product. I'll be damned if I don't have a PSP2 and PSP-Phone in hand by the years end. You can take my gaming license away from me if I don't! I'm totally going to skip over the 3DS for now in favor of these machines.

The announcement of an OLED screen and built in 3G just sealed the deal (here's to hoping the data is reasonable $$) My only fear now is these digital games will approach beyond 2GB in space. So, if the initial model has say double the Go and has 32gb, then that's roughly 30 top notch games it can hold. Some will think thats a lot, but all of us Go owners would probably like the 15-20 games we've already purchased to go on there as well. So unless they come out with some 40gb plus model (which would never happen) its going to put things in perspective..also, less space for movies, which I always like to keep a few things on there to watch at times.

Now there is this talk about game coming on memory sticks. I'm not sure I'm buying into this, b/c what? are they going to come in little shrink-wrapped carboard sleeves (like pack-in UMDs) and be hung on a shelf in Best Buy? could you imagine fumbling around with little memory cards on an airplane, or in a car?? it just doesn't seem feasible..
 
If there is a paid data plan for the 3G this thing will fail miserably. I am excited about the PSP2 but I don't care if it can simulate a blowjob - I will never ever pay a monthly fee in order to play it no matter how cheap it is.
 
[quote name='javeryh']If there is a paid data plan for the 3G this thing will fail miserably. I am excited about the PSP2 but I don't care if it can simulate a blowjob - I will never ever pay a monthly fee in order to play it no matter how cheap it is.[/QUOTE]

I'm thinking a couple things: 1) There will be an offer to enable the 3G for a yearly fee. It has to be $40-$50 for us to even bite, making it a more palatable less-than-$5-per-month deal. or 2) it would be free, a la the Amazon Kindle. I really don't mind the former, b/c I bet if it were free, it'd be shitty as hell, probably worse than DL speeds on the PS3 :lol: But yeah, if they try to gouge us with $10-$15 PER MONTH, then there is no way anyone could get on board with that. I wouldn't b/c all I'd use it for is downloading stuff and maybe one or two multiplayer games I play each year (usually racing titles..) Now if Wi-Fi is stripped off the unit, that would just plain suck..but all you see in the 'i' department is 3G/Wi-Fi units, or no 3G (Wi-Fi only), it'd be really funny to see them not having Wi-Fi when it is so commonplace..
 
The info is about the Japanese version of the psp2. And its all rumors and speculation at the moment. But by the end of week we will know more if Sony decide to announce the psp2.
 
[quote name='token2k6']I'm thinking a couple things: 1) There will be an offer to enable the 3G for a yearly fee. It has to be $40-$50 for us to even bite, making it a more palatable less-than-$5-per-month deal. or 2) it would be free, a la the Amazon Kindle.[/QUOTE]

I still wouldn't pay a yearly $40-$50 fee. No way. Free would be great and I wouldn't care about DL speeds because I'd most likely do 99% of downloading at home on my computer (assuming this thing hooks up to your computer for account management like an iPhone). Either way, there will rarely be a time when I need to play something immediately and I can wait a couple of hours for a large file.
 
They could go the Apple route and offer a 3G-enabled version at additional cost. I really want an iPad, but I'm not at all interested in paying the extra $130 (plus data plan) for the 3G functionality.

As for the PSP2, I'll reserve my thoughts until we can confirm what it does (and doesn't) have as well as how much the thing will cost. I still like the PSP, but it's by far my least used system; based on that, I can wait a bloody long time to pick up its successor if it's not reasonably priced.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']They could go the Apple route and offer a 3G-enabled version at additional cost. I really want an iPad, but I'm not at all interested in paying the extra $130 (plus data plan) for the 3G functionality.

As for the PSP2, I'll reserve my thoughts until we can confirm what it does (and doesn't) have as well as how much the thing will cost. I still like the PSP, but it's by far my least used system; based on that, I can wait a bloody long time to pick up its successor if it's not reasonably priced.[/QUOTE]
1up has an article detailing pretty much everything they know about the PSP2 from what they've gathered from their sources along with a mock-up of what it might look like here.
 
PSP2 possible photo?

110125_psp2_499.jpg


http://kotaku.com/5742423/the-first-official-shot-of-the-psp2

Would not mind replacing my iPod with this device, but what is with the stylus?
 
oled touch screen
3g chip
1ghz hummingbird?
internal memory, i doubt it will be a flash card since the system is probably not going with physical media.
gpu chip ?


this thing seems like 400-500$ if this is what will be offered + possible contract if you decide to use the 3g. It is a powerhouse, but maybe too much for consumers in this economical climate. Hopefully they can be competitive with the 3ds, but i doubt it.
 
In all seriousness we might know january 27th what the psp2 will be all about, i has been reported sony will unveil psp2 that day in Japan.
VG247 has learnt that Sony it to hold a “business overview and strategy meeting” in Tokyo on January 27, and has been told that Sony will use the event as a reveal platform for PSP2.
Nothing is known of the meeting’s content, but we do know that only “very select press” are attending.
Sources have said this morning that PSP2 will be announced at the showcase.
Sony has declined to comment on the chatter this morning.
In the wake of VG247 publishing this story, MCV has gone live with its own piece claiming “trade sources have confirmed” the console is to be announced at the event.
The console, which is currently under wraps, is expected to be released later this year.
Going by the codename VITA, PSP2 has been in the hands of developers for at least a year. VG247 published the first images of a development kit last November.
Netherrealm Studios and EA have openly said they’ve been working with the machine.
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